'Behind the Scenes' of Ron&Fez [Archive]

Trent_Steel

08-11-2006, 10:41 AM

I never understood why Ron & Fez never allowed the "Behind the Scenes " aspect of the show to be let out on the air. O&A use this tactic from the time to time and allow certain things from beind the scenes of the show to be let out on the air.  I understand they're two different shows but other shows do it too. Instead we only get hints and clues as to what is going on with the show off the air.  We know from Ron's comments about "other companies" talking to him, that they're getting offers to jump off XM and 202.We know from today's blowout with Earl that Ron is frusterated his show's staff isn't coming up to bat for him and resources from Ron & Fez are either getting pulled to O&A or not allocated.    I think it brings the listeners in on the show.

deliveryguy

08-11-2006, 11:00 AM

Trent_Steel wrote: I never understood why Ron & Fez never allowed the "Behind the Scenes " aspect of the show to be let out on the air. O&A use this tactic from the time to time and allow certain things from beind the scenes of the show to be let out on the air. I understand they're two different shows but other shows do it too. Instead we only get hints and clues as to what is going on with the show off the air. We know from Ron's comments about "other companies" talking to him, that they're getting offers to jump off XM and 202.We know from today's blowout with Earl that Ron is frusterated his show's staff isn't coming up to bat for him and resources from Ron & Fez are either getting pulled to O&A or not allocated. I think it brings the listeners in on the show. I think because Ron & Fez are just trying to have a good time. They don't wanna be an O&A show, and I can appreciate that. I think Ronnie has a lot more stuff going on in his life than people realize and he just wants to come in and release the stress at his getaway, the radio show. I will admit that I think Ron & Fez get the short end of the stick when it comes to resources, but they don't need a lot, just better pieces to compliment the show. I get frustrated at some of the things they don't have, such as a better slot, another hour, more advertising on even the XM platform. In the end, I love the show for what it is, and everything that it provides for me, which is great entertainment to fill my morning/afternoon..and sometimes night. 

This message was edited by deliveryguy on 8-11-06 @ 3:02 PM

OGC

08-11-2006, 11:12 AM

deliveryguy wrote: ....... I get frustrated at some of the things they don't have, such as a better slot, another hour, ..... Do you really think Ron want's to try to stretch out the content that he has for another hour every day ?

mikeyboy

08-11-2006, 11:15 AM

Ron & Fez generally don't complain about the show or their circumstances.  They come in every day and just make the best out of whatever situation they have, and I respect that.

Enabler

08-11-2006, 11:23 AM

As Ron said, he was pissed about other stuff today. We all know that post-heart attack Fez is not the same person and that is what is different about the show. He can blame Earl, but the only reason hes looking for anything from earl is because Fez offers very little outside of stories about himself.

mikek

08-11-2006, 11:26 AM

I sincerely hope XM is treating R&F well.  They're great on this open, censorless platform, and I'd hate to see them bail out.  XM is having some stock troubles, but they gotta nurture real talent like R&F.

OGC

08-11-2006, 11:28 AM

mikeyboy wrote: Ron & Fez generally don't complain about the show or their circumstances.  They come in every day and just make the best out of whatever situation they have, and I respect that. That's what I have really loved about the show since I started listening. I know Ron wouldn't like the term, but it really is a kind of "stream of conscience" radio. No matter what kind of shit comes up, they just go along with it.I think we got a hint a few weeks ago that there is more going on in Ron's life than he lets on (and that's fine). But shit like that really makes it tough to concentrate on any kind of productive work.

OGC

08-11-2006, 11:31 AM

mikek wrote: ..... Hey mikek, how the hell did you join the board last November and yet that was your first post ? I wish I could shut up for that long.That's what I really call lurking.

mikek

08-11-2006, 11:41 AM

as i tell the wife... i have issues.  richg0404 wrote: mikek wrote: ..... Hey mikek, how the hell did you join the board last November and yet that was your first post ? I wish I could shut up for that long.That's what I really call lurking.

AKA

08-11-2006, 12:10 PM

It's a difficult one - Some shows, like D&M and Stern, make that their entire show, and some people hate it or love it. It's a different kind of program. Once you let Dracula into the house, you can't get rid of him - meaning, once your show does start talking about more and more behind the scenes and personal stuff, it's tough then to put a cap in it when you need to. Listeners then begin to expect more of that - that they feel that they are entitled to more. I actually find Ron and Fez to do a more honest show than any of the ones mentioned - doing an honest show doesn't necessarily mean mentioning the school your kid is going to, or agonziing in public about the way the company is treating you. They are able to elicit some very up front, refreshing conversations that should be taking place all over the country. It doesn't mean that it isn't fun when they "lift the curtain" from time to time, or doesn't make good radio, but what you have to remember is that it's them that's doing the lifting and explaining - at no time is it not the Ron and Fez Show. If you are looking for a possible clue into any sort of preconception (which I don't believe exists), look no further than Tuesday's show when Ron talked about not enjoying the director's commentary of DVDs - he doesn't need to know the behind the scenes info of every little thing to enjoy or hate a movie - I take that same thing with their radio show.But then again...I've never been accussed of not reading too much into everything.<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/dry.gif" border="0" />

sithlord

08-11-2006, 12:11 PM

 So Fez's real name is Rob? THat blow up was wild. I sure hope Ron is ok. I don't know what kinda shit he's dealing with off the air but maybe if he brought it to the table and let the listeners call in and talk it out with him he'd feel better. Just a suggestion.

spoon

08-11-2006, 03:08 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Ron & Fez generally don't complain about the show or their circumstances.  They come in every day and just make the best out of whatever situation they have, and I respect that. I agree but at times you need to take a stand in order to get to the next step.  Perhaps they're fine being second fiddle to O & A in terms of press/promotion, but as for talent and show quality they are both great top notch shows of different styles.  We as fans should push XM to put them in the spotlight a little more bc they really are dropping the ball here.  The funny thing is that XM, specifically 202, is taking a hit due to O and A's push for terrestrial expansion.  Just like when Krock dropped the ball when they had a chance to setup an amazing fully rostered comedy talk station in the radio capitol of the world with Howard, O & A and Ron & Fez as the core, XM lingers with constant replays all day fucking long.  I'd be willing to bet numbers at the live airing of the show would be up if the shows played only then.  Also, the calling base would be much bigger since everyone would be listening live.  XM needs to promote our buddies better overall, along with getting the station in order.  O and A need to fucking get this thing going before the rug is pulled out from under them.  I for one would love a Dante and Randall show after hearing them on air, but hell that was only one show but worth a weekly golden ticket try.  If golden tickets even exist any more.

docgoblin

08-12-2006, 06:11 AM

fagenabler wrote: As Ron said, he was pissed about other stuff today. We all know that post-heart attack Fez is not the same person and that is what is different about the show. He can blame Earl, but the only reason hes looking for anything from earl is because Fez offers very little outside of stories about himself.   I don't know if anyone noticed but Fez has been pretty good lately. It seems that he is much more lively AFTER he gets a good report from his doctor. The days leading up to a doctor visit however finds Fez very distant in my opinion. You really see the difference when listening to the old bits from the library. He was so over the top sometimes (The classic Andy Dick bit comes to mind). You never hear that Fez anymore. I still think he's great, and I have no idea how I'd deal with things after I've had a heart attack.

bobrobot

08-12-2006, 08:20 AM

AKA wrote: Once you let Dracula into the house, you can't get rid of him PEEK A BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O!!!<img height="640" src="http://www.sandcsports.com/files/sandcsports/images/Bela%20Lugosi%20Dracula.preview.jpg" width="501" border="0" />

Dirtybird12

08-12-2006, 10:43 AM

Pay no attention to that man BEHIND THE CURTAIN<img height="210" src="http://www.nrawinningteam.com/0201/curtain.jpg" width="183" border="0" />

TheArchies

08-12-2006, 01:53 PM

Well, this is my first post. I've only been listening to R&F since they have been on Xm. They have one of the best shows on the platform, and I never miss a show. The behind the scenes stuff they let out over the air is great. It adds depth to the program, lets me get to know the players on the show, and is great cringe radio. Everyone has a bad day every now and then, Ron just had one on Friday. As for Earl, he really has dropped off the planet as far as booking has gone. He is a little annoying with the one word answers, just like ESD is a little annoying .

fredlie

08-12-2006, 03:46 PM

Is there a post that chronicles Fridays show?  i just got my Inno last week and was all excited to listen to yesterdays replay but instead got best of the week.  I keep hearing about Ron's bad day...just curious to hear for myself.  On topic, I have mixed feelings about the behind the scenes stuff.  On one hand, the show is great because they dont whine about shit ala Howard and they really only care about doing a good show.  I love that they dont get caught up in the O and A thing of trashing other shows for no reason.  But it would be cool to hear some details in regards to other offers etc.

fatflyguy

08-12-2006, 05:47 PM

In my opinion Ron and Fez are absolutly amazing.  O&A give me my absolute disgust and sillyness for the day, and Ron and Fez give my a lighter and more serious aspect.  I think Their show should be pushed more, and i wouldnt even mind an extra hour if they ever had it in them.   The show is fabulous and I couldnt imagine listening to anything else, it just makes my day go 10 times faster!  andrew

FezPaul

08-12-2006, 05:56 PM

TheArchies wrote: Well, this is my first post. I've only been listening to R&F since they have been on Xm. They have one of the best shows on the platform, and I never miss a show. The behind the scenes stuff they let out over the air is great. It adds depth to the program, lets me get to know the players on the show, and is great cringe radio. Everyone has a bad day every now and then, Ron just had one on Friday. As for Earl, he really has dropped off the planet as far as booking has gone. He is a little annoying with the one word answers, just like ESD is a little annoying . What other XM shows would you consider to be R&F's equal?

bear_s75

08-12-2006, 07:13 PM

I have been a fan since the XM days and was able to tell the first day that i was going to be a huge fan of Ron and Fez.  I am not sure what all this behind the scenes stuff is ya'll talk about, but I hope they are getting paid well enough at XM to stay for long time. I love O and A, but if i had to choose one show to listen too it would be Ron and Fez.  Ron is so quick on his feet and Fez is absolutely hilarious.

davidb72

08-12-2006, 07:26 PM

FezPaul wrote: TheArchies wrote: Well, this is my first post. I've only been listening to R&F since they have been on Xm. They have one of the best shows on the platform, and I never miss a show. The behind the scenes stuff they let out over the air is great. It adds depth to the program, lets me get to know the players on the show, and is great cringe radio. Everyone has a bad day every now and then, Ron just had one on Friday. As for Earl, he really has dropped off the planet as far as booking has gone. He is a little annoying with the one word answers, just like ESD is a little annoying . What other XM shows would you consider to be R&F's equal?   Well, there's that "BroadMinded" show for one...

libbyzibby

08-12-2006, 07:28 PM

I don't know but it seems pretty damn simple to this fan(it all follows like this, Use Your Head....think and the possibilities are immense.  It's like reading a good book and it all ties up at the end, only the last chapter has not been written, what happens the the main characters? live or die, end up on white horse or black horse, die with a needle in their vein or adopting the family of the widowed woman who stood by you and put up with you and show you running hand in hand to the park?)X/M is not doing well financially. Oprah hasn't started yet and their stock they say is tanking from only a year ago and falsified income...allegedly though listener count.Hugh Panero has had  2 new people hired in the past few weeks who Hugh Panero  now reports to, allegedlyX/M allows ONA to also do The Free F/M show for another company which also starts to get syndicated across the country...mean while back at the bank....X/M Stock and listeners still going south.  Sirius was doing a lot better and have sunk a bit too. Why pay for it now when i can hear it legally for free...ONA fans ain't subscribing for Oprah, trust me Still, Sirius is still gaining listeners 'for whatever reasons'.  Don't argue it, just look it up.  Just to let you know  X/M is still listed as a Buy on the Brokerage boards, so it ain't shoving just 1 company's face in the mud.  If you got in with SIRI ( yes i am a Siri holder) but not a fan of their shows, got to seperate emotions from good business sense once in awhile) when I did invest and as large and long as I did. we will all make some $.  If X/M pulls out of this nosedive and dumps unnecessary cargo, it can still make a lot of people $.  Probably even more so now as the stick is taking such a dump all over Wall Street, you can get in cheaper than a year ago. Remember, Gordo said "Greed is Good"   Sirius stock has dropped, but nothing quite like X/M and the listeners are definitively going in favor of Sirius (sign ups).  I ain't making this up, check the adjusted numbers for X/M.  Seems like someone has been playing with their Tinker pencil and doing some tinkering....allegedly.  Meanwhile Ron and Fez are still the other guys in the eyes of Mgmt and ONA and the not sticking up for people from their show who get the short end of the stick guys, no names please.  Repetition is so repetitious. That is their opinion at X/M.  No matter what happens they never got that  shot Opie and Anthony promised.  Hasn't happened yet and if the rest of my scenario plays out, they won't.   They were and remain to be the most talented pair of footsteps you'll ever hear behind you even if one does have a limp like Kyser Sose!  Ron and Fez have truly been ONA's The Wind beneath their wings (One word changed to fit the circumstances):(as performed by ONA to RNF on their next farewell show accopanied by little Jimmy on the Harmonica....and Happy Birthday)Ohhhh, oh, oh, oh, ohhh. It must have been cold there in my shadow,to never have sunlight on your face. You were content to let me shine, that's your way. You always walked a step behind. The point is X/M may be in some kind of trouble. Who is the best we have seen in our day and age of bringing success and acquisitions, whereever he goes (Learn what he did at CBS and that Sumner Redstone was the ass) of taking a radio station and sticking with it till it is successful. Just Think of Infinity radio, and who made that into what it was..  Started out with 1 station in NY in the beginning, than YSP in Philly with Howard and the rest is truly unwritten before history......bring in. the one, the only, the man himself, Mr. Mel Karmazin and accept his offfers

Gvac

08-12-2006, 07:41 PM

I skimmed thru your post twice and it seemed interesting, libby zibby.Please post a Reader's Digest version as I'm far too lazy to read all of what you originally wrote.  Thank you.

libbyzibby

08-12-2006, 08:06 PM

Gvac wrote: I skimmed thru your post twice and it seemed interesting, libby zibby.Please post a Reader's Digest version as I'm far too lazy to read all of what you originally wrote.  Thank you. Trust me, there is no way it was intended to be that lengthy.  I do hope you do find the time to read in...print it out and take it in the shitter or something. I do agree with some of what others have added, but I had to finish the Iliad, The Odyssey and that post before snack time...I'm on a tough schedule.anyway thank you for the attemptYogurt Smootthie and Bran muffin time i'm sharing with the lil bunny who isn't asleep yet like he should be

Tenbatsuzen

08-12-2006, 08:54 PM

Libby, I just read your post, and I feel stupider for reading it. Quick skim for you. 1) O&A are not the highest paid personalities at XM.  I would venture a guess that Oprah and probably Dylan make more than O&A.  O&A probably make more TOTAL from the Free-FM deal, but they aren't the highest paid people at XM. 2) I sincerely doubt that if XM was in major financial trouble, they would dump R&F.  They would probably cut back on talent on the music stations, and perhaps streamline some things down in DC.  R&F help support O&A, and since O&A are the most listened to people on the platform, R&F have a measure of protection.3) Please, please, please, EVERYONE GET THIS THROUGH YOUR SKULLS. SIRIUS CANNOT BUY OUT XM, AND XM CANNOT BUY OUT SIRIUS. Mel is quite happy at Sirius and he's not leaving.  An XM/Sirius merger is impossible because a) the SEC will claim it's a monopoly and b) the FCC won't allow a single entity to hold both SDARS broadcasting licenses.If one of the companies failed and had to be bought out, I would guess that either Clear Channel, Infinity, Cablevision, Comcast, AT&T or Verizon would buy them.  But the satellite companies cannot touch each other.  If XM did - in some fucked up universe where everything is absolutely crazy - decide to part ways with Ron and Fez - they would be IMMEDIATELY picked up by Free-FM.  No doubt in my mind. There's speculation, and then there's just rambling stupidity.  Try to keep your posts in the former rather than the latter.

Tenbatsuzen

08-12-2006, 09:00 PM

O&A have also made it quite clear that they won't work for Mel ever again, and they DEFINITELY won't work with Howie. If O&A jump ship at XM, they'll be on Free-FM fulltime, but they've BOTH said they DON'T want to do that because they enjoy the freedom they have at XM, and it allows them to do the risque bits they can't do at Free. Besides, I believe Anthony said on Wackbag that O&A are now signed through October 2009. As much as some people don't want to believe it, O&A's job security give Ron and Fez a measure of job security.  As for the support of the show... I don't know.  Yes, I think it's bad that O&A get a lot more support staff than R&F, and I hate the time slot that R&F are on, but... they're live in New York City, and I get to listen to them.  It sucks, but I'd rather eat filet mignon on a paper plate with grape soda than eat dog shit on fine china with champagne.

mikeyboy

08-12-2006, 09:05 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: There's speculation, and then there's just rambling stupidity.  Try to keep your posts in the former rather than the latter.There's unwarranted arrogance,  and then there's civility...  I'm guessing you can fill in the rest.

This message was edited by mikeyboy on 8-13-06 @ 1:06 AM

Gvac

08-12-2006, 09:07 PM

mikeyboy wrote: There's unwarrantAed arrogance, and then there's civility... I'm guessing you can fill in the rest.

  Amen.

Tenbatsuzen

08-12-2006, 09:12 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: There's speculation, and then there's just rambling stupidity. Try to keep your posts in the former rather than the latter.There's unwarranted arrogance, and then there's civility... I'm guessing you can fill in the rest.

This message was edited by mikeyboy on 8-13-06 @ 1:06 AM   I'm sorry.  Perhaps my future speculation posts should include hack Mel Gibson material, lack of punctuation, and stupid song parodies. I stand by my post.  I have probably said at least 15 times on this board why XM and Sirius can't merge, yet people still think it's a possibility.  Now I understand why Sniffen gets so pissed off sometimes.

spoon

08-13-2006, 01:08 AM

Sorry, if AOL and Time Warner were allowed to merge, I'm sure lawyers can cook up a story and work with the monopoly based republicans in getting a sat merge through.  Granted it would be tough, but they would probably claim all terrestrial radio and other forms of entertainment like internet radio as other forms of comp and get it through somehow.  Eventually one of these companies has a great chance of being knocked off.  Question is which one and how.  And you'll have to forgive us losers who didn't happen to catch your multiple thesis listings on sat merges.  Yet I agree that Libby post made me dizzy.  WTF?

FreshJ

08-13-2006, 08:47 AM

Before Xm and Sirius Merge you would more likely see Dish Network and Direct TV Merge and that ain't going to happen. It would be a monopoly for one company to hold all of the Sat Broadcasting. XM should be doing well, even if it is not adding subs at a record pace or faster then sirius think about all the other avenues it is doing bussiness in. It is the major provider of Music to Direct TV, Thus heard in many resturants that use Direct Tv for their music. I heard that they are working on An Alltel Wireless Deal to allow subs to use Cell phones to listen to channels. Xm is not stupid. I don't see Sirius Trying for these other avenues to get people to listen.  Ron and Fez are Secure in their Jobs unless they want to do something else. 

This message was edited by FreshJ on 8-13-06 @ 12:48 PM

Dan G

08-13-2006, 09:00 AM

SIRIUS has a deal with Dish Network, so restaurants that have Dish are pumping SIRIUS' music channels. This was done before XM was with DirecTV. 
Sprint (Nextel) signed a deal last year with Sirius to have some Sirius stations streamed over Sprint phones. This also precedes XM's deal with Alltel. 
It's as if XM is trying catch up with SIRIUS' moves.

MilkmanDann

08-13-2006, 09:50 AM

Dango727 wrote: SIRIUS has a deal with Dish Network, so restaurants that have Dish are pumping SIRIUS' music channels. This was done before XM was with DirecTV. Sprint (Nextel) signed a deal last year with Sirius to have some Sirius stations streamed over Sprint phones. This also precedes XM's deal with Alltel. It's as if XM is trying catch up with SIRIUS' moves. Or XM waiting to see what the terms were that Sirius got so they could use that as a foundation for their own deals. Sirius doesnt even have a live-portable yet. The one thing I think Sirius has done alot better is marketing, thats about it. Huge technology edge to XM. Look forward to Ron and Fez more then O&A nowadays, they're my "hot new bitch" I guess.

mudflap170

08-13-2006, 02:19 PM

I've been a fan of R&F since their days in Wash. DC and have always thought the two of them were very funny. I don't care about their personal lives like they would'nt care about mine. The only  thing I would care about is that they're not pedophiles. Then I wouldn't give a shit how funny they were. I would dump them like a hot rock.

bobrobot

08-13-2006, 03:19 PM

I am buying BOTH XM & Sirius & forming the world's LARGEST parody song satellite network!!! <img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/feces_big.gif" border="0" /><img height="234" src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/satellite_dish.gif" width="275" border="0" />Scatallite radio

Tenbatsuzen

08-13-2006, 03:29 PM

Burblefrump wrote: Dango727 wrote: SIRIUS has a deal with Dish Network, so restaurants that have Dish are pumping SIRIUS' music channels. This was done before XM was with DirecTV. Sprint (Nextel) signed a deal last year with Sirius to have some Sirius stations streamed over Sprint phones. This also precedes XM's deal with Alltel. It's as if XM is trying catch up with SIRIUS' moves. Or XM waiting to see what the terms were that Sirius got so they could use that as a foundation for their own deals. Sirius doesnt even have a live-portable yet. The one thing I think Sirius has done alot better is marketing, thats about it. Huge technology edge to XM. Look forward to Ron and Fez more then O&A nowadays, they're my "hot new bitch" I guess.    In fairness, the look and quality of Sirius' tech is catching up to XM.  It's not great, but notice how O&A have stopped making the jokes about how big and heavy the Sirius tech is?

spoon

08-13-2006, 07:33 PM

mudflap170 wrote: I've been a fan of R&F since their days in Wash. DC and have always thought the two of them were very funny. I don't care about their personal lives like they would'nt care about mine. The only  thing I would care about is that they're not pedophiles. Then I wouldn't give a shit how funny they were. I would dump them like a hot rock. Wow, thanks for the update/insight!

Fatts

08-13-2006, 10:36 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: It sucks, but I'd rather eat filet mignon on a paper plate with grape soda than eat dog shit on fine china with champagne.  yea, what kind of fag cares what type of plate he's eating on?  I'm Starvin

spoon

08-13-2006, 10:39 PM

Yah, this is good on any plate!!  <img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/feces_big.gif" border="0" />

Dirtybird12

08-13-2006, 10:44 PM

I do believe they can merge after 7 or 10 years ...got something against dumb parody songs?

spoon

08-13-2006, 11:05 PM

Not me, I hate smart ones. 

docgoblin

08-14-2006, 01:52 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Burblefrump wrote: Dango727 wrote: SIRIUS has a deal with Dish Network, so restaurants that have Dish are pumping SIRIUS' music channels. This was done before XM was with DirecTV. Sprint (Nextel) signed a deal last year with Sirius to have some Sirius stations streamed over Sprint phones. This also precedes XM's deal with Alltel. It's as if XM is trying catch up with SIRIUS' moves. Or XM waiting to see what the terms were that Sirius got so they could use that as a foundation for their own deals. Sirius doesnt even have a live-portable yet. The one thing I think Sirius has done alot better is marketing, thats about it. Huge technology edge to XM. Look forward to Ron and Fez more then O&A nowadays, they're my "hot new bitch" I guess. In fairness, the look and quality of Sirius' tech is catching up to XM. It's not great, but notice how O&A have stopped making the jokes about how big and heavy the Sirius tech is?   XM is still ahead at this point, if not just for the portables.I'm sure Sirius will come out with one soon enough and their little car unit is actually pretty neat.

mikek

08-14-2006, 06:29 PM

spoon wrote: Yah, this is good on any plate!! <img border="0" src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/bobogolem/feces_big.gif" /> Earl- we got any tasty dog shit lying around here?

watson

08-14-2006, 06:45 PM

Earls reponse: I just ate the last of it

mikek

08-14-2006, 06:49 PM

XM is still ahead at this point, if not just for the portables.I'm sure Sirius will come out with one soon enough and their little car unit is actually pretty neat.   At this point, XM & Sirius are (or will soon be) techologically equal. Like any established product, the winner will be the one who markets itself best.  Stupid, silly little things will have a disproportinate difference (e.g. this is completely personal preference, but Sirius has an edge because they have a great jamband channel, while XM recently axed their prog/jam offering.  (ugh... and it DID suck))

watson

08-14-2006, 06:53 PM

I wonder if sirius can spell technologically correctly   XM is still ahead at this point, if not just for the portables.I'm sure Sirius will come out with one soon enough and their little car unit is actually pretty neat. At this point, XM & Sirius are (or will soon be) techologically equal. Like any established product, the winner will be the one who markets itself best. Stupid, silly little things will have a disproportinate difference (e.g. this is completely personal preference, but Sirius has an edge because they have a great jamband channel, while XM recently axed their prog/jam offering. (ugh... and it DID suck))

MadMatt

08-14-2006, 06:59 PM

mikek wrote:     XM is still ahead at this point, if not just for the portables.I'm sure Sirius will come out with one soon enough and their little car unit is actually pretty neat. At this point, XM & Sirius are (or will soon be) techologically equal. Like any established product, the winner will be the one who markets itself best.  Stupid, silly little things will have a disproportinate difference (e.g. this is completely personal preference, but Sirius has an edge because they have a great jamband channel, while XM recently axed their prog/jam offering.  (ugh... and it DID suck))I have to disagree.  Although sirius has succeeded in trimming down their car units, they are light years behind XM regarding Portable units.  I think Tenbats already said it in another post, so I won't rehash - he made some great points that I agree with.  All told, the future is in portability and added features - something XM is offering in spades.As for XM, their marketing is going through improvements but they need to pick up the pace.  I think the recent stock troubles have begun to light some fires under some butts.  I guess we will see in the ling run.

Trent_Steel

08-15-2006, 08:24 AM

WOW, I invoke discussion.  Maybe I should have my own radio show... Oh wait I do... well College radio. - future radio super star

PhishHead

08-15-2006, 08:36 AM

mikek wrote:   but Sirius has an edge because they have a great jamband channel, while XM recently axed their prog/jam offering.  (ugh... and it DID suck))XM still has the Jam band station but only on the Online version.  It does suck btw too much WideSpread Panic and SCI, there is no Dead and hardly any Phish.  They also dont do older Jam Bands.  Hardly any Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers, even old DMB isnt played.  They never play live shows which is where Jam Bands show their chops. XM has done it before where they have taken the jam band channel off the units and only online and then brought back to the units, so who knows what they are thinking.  They just need a better variety of what is played on there, half the time i look at the bands listed on there and i catch myself saying "that isnt a jam band"

JustJon

08-15-2006, 08:59 AM

Why don't you email the jam band channel and make requests like that?

PhishHead

08-15-2006, 09:03 AM

JustJon wrote: Why don't you email the jam band channel and make requests like that? i actually do quite often, but they do not play many of the things i request, also last time i emailed it came back and said email was no longer available.  The jam band channel is not listed on the website anymore.

Enabler

08-15-2006, 02:48 PM

PhishHead wrote: mikek wrote:   but Sirius has an edge because they have a great jamband channel, while XM recently axed their prog/jam offering.  (ugh... and it DID suck))XM still has the Jam band station but only on the Online version.  It does suck btw too much WideSpread Panic and SCI, there is no Dead and hardly any Phish.  They also dont do older Jam Bands.  Hardly any Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers, even old DMB isnt played.  They never play live shows which is where Jam Bands show their chops. XM has done it before where they have taken the jam band channel off the units and only online and then brought back to the units, so who knows what they are thinking.  They just need a better variety of what is played on there, half the time i look at the bands listed on there and i catch myself saying "that isnt a jam band"Bring back Phish Fridays too dammit. That was one of my favorite features when I first got xm then it disappeared. Also give the dead hour better times. What deadheads are up at 7am sunday morn? I gotta say I would def get rid of xm if not for the boys.

spoon

08-15-2006, 06:02 PM

Jam bands.......Sooooo gay.

mikeyboy

08-15-2006, 06:31 PM

Gayer than tildes?

Bossanova

08-15-2006, 06:40 PM

Seriously, the dead Hour sucks.  I hate that it is so early on Sundayor on Wed. night.  Pick some prime weekend nights, and Phish Fridays were so great.  Also has anyone noticed that XM sucks on the weekends, even the Top Tracks has no good tracks on the weekend.

ChainReaction

08-16-2006, 10:25 AM

I asked E-Lo one day when he was on Paltalk, and he said the Friday Phish Phry (or whatever the fuck it's called) still comes on one of the channels....don't remember which one, though...but it does exist....and jam bands, especially Phish, are not "gay".

DonTheTrucker

08-16-2006, 12:56 PM

You want Jam Bands (or any other type of music programming) get an Ipod.Talk/news/weather are the things that Satellite radio runs on, and what satellite radio should be sold on; music is secondary.  Bringing big name talk hosts is what will bring subs.  Oprah was a good move if they don't mess it up, and if the word doesn't get out that she's only doing 30 minutes a week live.If I were Hugh Panero I would be trying to get one of the big conservative talkers exclusively, namely Rush.  Personally I wouldn't listen to him, I prefer Hannity, but he would be a HUGE add, with a huge built in audience that is almost brainwashed.  Also adding big "shock jock" shows would be smart to put together a true "High Voltage" channel.  Have a full lineup on 202, and have a channel 203 for replays (perhaps on a reverse schedule with O&A in drive and R&F at midnight like they have now).  They could add some smaller syndicated or local shows like the Hideout or (my personal hope) Kidd Chris.