Co-Ed Military Academys

[JimBeam]

<p>What's your take on this ?</p><p>I mean in one way I see it as no big deal but another part of me thinks it wasn't right for the Supreme Court to force them to take women.</p><p>The best argument I can make would be would an all women's association of some type willingly accept a male and if they didn't, or weren't forced to do so, wouldnt that be &quot; unfair &quot;.</p><p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060812/ap_on_re_us/citadel_women" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060812/ap_on_re_us/citadel_women</a></p>

[patsopinion]

<p>the title should have been same but unequal</p><p>feminist orginizations preach that women should get the same rights as men, no exceptions</p><p>(although i am not a woman hater) i dont think that this is true</p><p>1-
women have babies- this is a fact.&nbsp; Employers should not have to
hire a currently pregnant woman and then have to keep her job open when
she takes 3-6 months off of work after she started there not that long
before.&nbsp; Therefore the cost of hiring women is inheriently more
expensive then hiring a man for the same job in the long term,&nbsp;
this argument is based purely on job performance during pregnancy/ loss
of work during/ and after pregnancy.</p><p>the argument could have been
made that women get paid time off after the baby is born but now men do
to so at least that inequality has been rectified</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>2-When women go to the bar</p><p>I
have two friends that constantly go to the bar.&nbsp; They take no
money, they dont bring ciggs, sometimes they dont even bring their
cars. Drunk men just bum them out smokes and buy them drinks. That is
not fair or equal!</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>3-Sexual harrassment</p><p>This
goes back to the job setting. The ratio of men to women that file
sexual harrassment suits is less then 1 out of 1000.&nbsp; Again
proving that it is more cost effective in the big picture to hire a man.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>4-the vagina&nbsp;</p><p>my hatred for my boss has blined my ability to make any&nbsp; further arguments at this time<br />
</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>I work for a major corporation and men still only get 2 weeks, manager approved, unpaid weeks off for maternity leave.</p>

[HBox]

3-Sexual harrassment<span class="postbody"><p>This goes back to
the job setting. The ratio of men to women that file sexual harrassment
suits is less then 1 out of 1000. Again proving that it is more cost
effective in the big picture to hire a man.</p></span><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="Navy"><font size="2">Technically that would make it more expensive to hire men since they are the ones committing the harrassment. This arguemnt is akin to saying if there were no women, there'd be no rape. It's essentially blaming the victim.</font></font></p><p><font color="Navy"><font size="2">And yes, I know how ridiculous sexual harrassment has become. But you have to deal with the law as written, not as you think it should be.</font></font><br /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by HBox on 8-12-06 @ 3:24 PM</span>

[patsopinion]

<p>false alligations and frivilous law suits i say.</p><p>these women can make 150k in an afternoon with no coroberating evidence or witnesses. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p><img width="240" height="240" border="0" src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00062IDBU.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Very good, very underrated movie. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Great movie.</p><p>To this day I still wanna stab that little weasley kid that was ratting on them.</p><p>Good bad guy role by Michael Biehn.</p>

[A.J.]

<strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>What's your take on this ?</p>Expect more incidents like <a href="http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1970296.php" target="_self">this</a>.

[UnknownPD]

1- women have babies- this is a fact.&nbsp; Employers should not have to hire a currently pregnant woman and then have to keep her job open when she takes 3-6 months off of work after she started there not that long before.&nbsp; Therefore the cost of hiring women is inheriently more expensive then hiring a man for the same job in the long term,&nbsp; this argument is based purely on job performance during pregnancy/ loss of work during/ and after pregnancy. <p>the argument could have been made that women get paid time off after the baby is born but now men do to so at least that inequality has been rectified </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">As a New York employer I can tell you there is NO law that requires a woman's job be held for her during maternity leave. This is generally a corporate decision. </font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by UnknownPD on 8-15-06 @ 2:04 PM</span>

[A.J.]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>What's your take on this ?</p>Expect more incidents like <a href="http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1970296.php" target="_self">this</a>. <p>As I was <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_re_us/citadel_assaults" target="_self">saying...</a></p>

[UnknownPD]

It would all be so much easier if we went back to a time when we didn't allow blacks, jews and women, because we all know there were no problems then. Or we could act like we're in the twenty first century and deal with the issues of being an adult society.

[Sheeplovr]

<p>there not co-ed already</p><p>what the hell</p><p>what a waste of money having seperate things</p><p>they needs people who wanna join the stupid thing just let them tell them how to maintain an gun and let them go &nbsp;</p>

[high fly]

<strong>patsopinion</strong> wrote:<br /><p>the title should have been same but unequal</p><p>feminist orginizations preach that women should get the same rights as men, no exceptions</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font size="2">So does that pesky U.S. Constitution.</font></p><p><font size="2" /></p><p><font size="2">The Citadel can go private and the problem's solved.</font></p><p><font size="2" /></p>

[HBox]

<p> </p><strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>JimBeam</strong> wrote:<br /><p>What's your take on this ?</p>Expect more incidents like <a href="http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1970296.php" target="_self">this</a>. <p>As I was <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060823/ap_on_re_us/citadel_assaults" target="_self">saying...</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>Almost 20 percent of the female cadets at The Citadel last spring
reported being sexually assaulted since enrolling at the state military
college, according to results of a survey released by the school
Wednesday.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>About 4 percent of the male cadets also reported being sexually
assaulted since joining the formerly all-male school, according to the
results of the survey.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><font color="Navy"><font size="2">So, regardless of sex, you have a 12 percent chance of being sexually assaulted at The Citadel. That's........ wow.</font></font></p><p><font color="Navy"><font size="2">EDIT: Or not. Chalk that one up to 4:00 in the morning math.<br /></font></font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by HBox on 8-27-06 @ 4:35 AM</span>