Who will police the police?

[HeyGuy]

<p>Shit like this is why so many people do not trust the police. Times have chnged when my Grandfather was a cop and even when my Uncle and Father were cops, their job was taken so serious and they protected and respected the people. Back then cops made no money and were respected by the neighborhoods. But now, cops are making 65-100k a year plus overtime working 4 days on and 4 days off and a lot of then are over cocky asses, they act like they are above the law and talk down to people. Why do they high five and cheer eachother on like they just won a football game. Even if your arresting someone that deserves it, why? Its someones life it a serious matter its not a fucking game that you won and need to slap eachother on the ass. Watch the video and tell me these cops arent assholes. I love how at the end when the video got out, the police dept sends a spokesman out to appologize and act all humble.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAKebaxEMoI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAKebaxEMoI</a></p>

[CuzBum]

Bah, stupid video won't load for me.

[UnknownPD]

<p>Times have chnged when </p><p><font size="2">Heckler?</font></p>

[patsopinion]

<p>why does the name of their little police squad sound like something the nazis had?</p><p>there has to be more to this story.</p><p>Why would they just shoot at people.&nbsp; They showed a huge riot during clips where is that story attached?</p><p>this story iis too easy the way it was presented.</p><p>One lady against a line of riot police with a sign gets shot with a rubber bullet?</p><p>that seems like assult with a deadly weapon to me&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Yeah but how many times do they do go out there and just do their jobs only to be spit on and pelted with things by &quot; peaceful &quot; protestors.</p><p>Crowd control is an awful job and no peae officer ever looks forward to it because even in the most tame of situations mob unrest can cause issues.</p>

[CuzBum]

Was it those people who are always protesting that world trade thing?

[Furtherman]

<p>I see nothing wrong here.</p><p>Sure, what the officer said isn't appropriate from an outsider's view, or a public &quot;professional&quot; view, but that sort of joking around and laughter always happens.&nbsp; Always has, always will... even in your grandfather's and father's time.</p><p>I'm the son of a cop as well and I know that it is a very stressful job.&nbsp; Laughter relieves that stress, however inappropriate it is.&nbsp; The same thing happens in newsrooms and any other place where a majority of your day is devoted to bad news.&nbsp; The jokes start flying.&nbsp; And you laugh, it's almost a nervous reaction.&nbsp; You need to laugh.</p><p>Whether the cops had the right to shoot rubber bullets is another story, but as for that footage of them laughing - that's nothing surprising nor offensive.&nbsp; Sure, they apologized because someone filmed that, but that is not going to stop those moments from happening.&nbsp; </p><p>Think Law &amp; Order.&nbsp; Opening scene: dead body, cops come in to view the crime scene, one looks at the body and makes a smart crack about the dead guy.&nbsp; No one is up in arms about that, but that is what happens.</p>

[HeyGuy]

<strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br />Was it those people who are always protesting that world trade thing? <p>I think so.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My thing isnt them doing their job when needed. What I dont get is why the asshole cop is making a joke about the lady being shot in the head? She was walking around with a sign and they shot her in the head. She even shows them she was shot and later the cops at their meeting discuss how funny everything was. Makes me sick, but what can you do? That why I ask the question who will police the police? </p>

[reeshy]

Trust me....that would never have happened in NY...that sgt. should have been kicked in the ass.....keep your opinions to yourself....and be professional.....trust me...I know!!!!<br />

[Justice4all]

<p>Police officers are human jusy like everyone else. I have worked with them and some were absolute assholes who think their&nbsp;balls just got bigger by 10 inches just by wearing that little piece of tin on their chest. Some of them abuse the power, yes. But not ALL of them. </p><p>And as far as the salaries are concerned, they work a job where they wear a target on their chest every time they go out there. So between putting themselves in harms way and running towards danger while the rest run away, I think it is the least we can do. The one thing that sucked when i was working for X PD. was some of the guys starting out needed to do alot of side jobs to make decent money.</p><p>Hopefully that is changing.</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Yeah because the NYPD is known for running a tight ship at times like this.</p><p>Good thing all those PR day parades went off w/out a hitch.</p><p>Plenty of protection all around for those women that were grpoed.</p>

[reeshy]

My first 5 years...I drove a cab part-time..to keep the kids in diapers and shoes!!!!<br />

[HeyGuy]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I see nothing wrong here.</p><p>Sure, what the officer said isn't appropriate from an outsider's view, or a public &quot;professional&quot; view, but that sort of joking around and laughter always happens.&nbsp; Always has, always will... even in your grandfather's and father's time.</p><p>I'm the son of a cop as well and I know that it is a very stressful job.&nbsp; Laughter relieves that stress, however inappropriate it is.&nbsp; The same thing happens in newsrooms and any other place where a majority of your day is devoted to bad news.&nbsp; The jokes start flying.&nbsp; And you laugh, it's almost a nervous reaction.&nbsp; You need to laugh.</p><p>Whether the cops had the right to shoot rubber bullets is another story, but as for that footage of them laughing - that's nothing surprising nor offensive.&nbsp; Sure, they apologized because someone filmed that, but that is not going to stop those moments from happening.&nbsp; </p><p>Think Law &amp; Order.&nbsp; Opening scene: dead body, cops come in to view the crime scene, one looks at the body and makes a smart crack about the dead guy.&nbsp; No one is up in arms about that, but that is what happens.</p><p>I dont remeber my father laughing after the riots in Newark in the late 70's early 80's. Or when he had to negotiate with prisoners when essex county jail had a riot and they held a fellow officer out of the window by his feet. When they got control of the situation they werent laughing about anything. </p><p>I dont remember seeing or hearing about cops laughing to relieve stress after 9/11. I'm sure it happens from time to time but when you shoot a women who is no threat to anyone and then make a joke about it and say it was great when you hit her in the head with the bullet, well that shows the tpye of guys they are.</p><p>How would these same cops feel if some thugs in the street laughed after shooting one of them? They wouldnt be all too happy. Plus they would then stretch the law as much as possible to get the guy who did it and prob hurt others along the way. </p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>i hear ya Campy!</p><p>don't let a few bad eggs ruin it for the rest. we know most cops are doing the right thing...</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

<strong>CampoNJ</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I see nothing wrong here.</p><p>Sure, what the officer said isn't appropriate from an outsider's view, or a public &quot;professional&quot; view, but that sort of joking around and laughter always happens.&nbsp; Always has, always will... even in your grandfather's and father's time.</p><p>I'm the son of a cop as well and I know that it is a very stressful job.&nbsp; Laughter relieves that stress, however inappropriate it is.&nbsp; The same thing happens in newsrooms and any other place where a majority of your day is devoted to bad news.&nbsp; The jokes start flying.&nbsp; And you laugh, it's almost a nervous reaction.&nbsp; You need to laugh.</p><p>Whether the cops had the right to shoot rubber bullets is another story, but as for that footage of them laughing - that's nothing surprising nor offensive.&nbsp; Sure, they apologized because someone filmed that, but that is not going to stop those moments from happening.&nbsp; </p><p>Think Law &amp; Order.&nbsp; Opening scene: dead body, cops come in to view the crime scene, one looks at the body and makes a smart crack about the dead guy.&nbsp; No one is up in arms about that, but that is what happens.</p><p>I dont remeber my father laughing after the riots in Newark in the late 70's early 80's. Or when he had to negotiate with prisoners when essex county jail had a riot and they held a fellow officer out of the window by his feet. When they got control of the situation they werent laughing about anything. </p><p>I dont remember seeing or hearing about cops laughing to relieve stress after 9/11. I'm sure it happens from time to time but when you shoot a women who is no threat to anyone and then make a joke about it and say it was great when you hit her in the head with the bullet, well that shows the tpye of guys they are.</p><p>How would these same cops feel if some thugs in the street laughed after shooting one of them? They wouldnt be all too happy. Plus they would then stretch the law as much as possible to get the guy who did it and prob hurt others along the way. </p><p>You're looking at laughing at tradegy at a much bigger scale here - way more than you need too.&nbsp; Those things you mentioned are awful.... but after 9/11, there wasn't anyone to laugh at.&nbsp; The cops didn't have terrorists to beat on.&nbsp; </p><p>And of course you didn't hear your Dad laughing about that at home.&nbsp; No father wants his kids to find anything funny about those situations.</p><p>But I guarantee at the locker room at police headquaters, they found something to laugh about.&nbsp; They'll laugh about the perp who tried to get away, or mouthed off to them, or anyone they would generaly despise as having no respect for the law.&nbsp; I guarantee they did.</p>

[suggums]

<p><font size="1" face="verdana" color="black"><strong>Who will police the police?</strong></font> <br /></p><p><img width="356" height="237" border="0" src="http://image.listen.com/img/356x237/4/6/5/7/657564_356x237.jpg" /></p><p>Sting will save us&nbsp;</p>

[HeyGuy]

<strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Police officers are human jusy like everyone else. I have worked with them and some were absolute assholes who think their&nbsp;balls just got bigger by 10 inches just by wearing that little piece of tin on their chest. Some of them abuse the power, yes. But not ALL of them. </p><p>And as far as the salaries are concerned, they work a job where they wear a target on their chest every time they go out there. So between putting themselves in harms way and running towards danger while the rest run away, I think it is the least we can do. The one thing that sucked when i was working for X PD. was some of the guys starting out needed to do alot of side jobs to make decent money.</p><p>Hopefully that is changing.</p><p>Big city cops should be paid better, agreed. I think NYC starting pay is 35K and a regualr PO max pay is around 60K. They have a tougher job and are in harms way. But come on, these small town and local PD's max out at 85-100K they work 4 days on and 4 days off. And sorry but running underage kids out of parking lots and dunkin dounuts not so dangerous. By the way being a cop isnt even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the country.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><table cellspacing="2" cellpadding="3" width="580" border="0"><tr valign="middle"><td class="headerTHIS">Rank</td><td class="headerTHIS">Occupation</td><td class="headerTHIS">Death rate/100,000</td><td class="headerTHIS">Total deaths</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">1</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Logging workers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;92.4 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">85</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">2</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Aircraft pilots</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;92.4 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">109</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">3</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Fishers and fishing workers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;86.4 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">38</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">4</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Structural iron and steel workers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;47.0 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">31</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">5</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Refuse and recyclable material collectors</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;43.2 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">35</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">6</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Farmers and ranchers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;37.5 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">307</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">7</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Roofers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;34.9 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">94</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">8</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Electrical power line installers/repairers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;30.0 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">36</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">9</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Driver/sales workers and truck drivers</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;27.6 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">905</td></tr><tr valign="middle"><td class="cellTHIS1r">10</td><td class="cellTHIS1">Taxi drivers and chauffeurs</td><td class="cellTHIS2">* class=&quot;barTHIS&quot;&gt;24.2 <div /></td><td class="cellTHIS3">67</td></tr></table></p><p><strong><font color="#000000">There are approximately 740,000 sworn law enforcement officers now serving in the United States. About 10 percent of them are female.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#99ffff"><font color="#000000">A total of 1,533 law enforcement officers died in the line of duty during the last 10 years, an average of 153 per year.</font> </font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000000">% wise I would say thats a low # compared to other profesions. No one wants to see any c

[reeshy]

WOW....somebody has an agenda!!!!!! and it's really showing!!!!!!<br />

[HeyGuy]

<strong>reeshy</strong> wrote:<br />WOW....somebody has an agenda!!!!!! and it's really showing!!!!!!<br /><p>Whats the agenda? To point out that cops use their badge as a power trip and that there is no way for us to police the police? I'm sorry if I feel too many cops do too much fucked up shit. I'm sorry if I dont feel a cop being murdered is any more important then an avg joe. A life is a life and people are people. What a cop does is their job, they get paid for it so for people to say they run to danger, yeah and they better they get paid to do that.</p><p>I have zero agenda, my father, uncle and grandfather were all cops. My thing is how much it seems the force has changed over the past 20 years. I believe they took it more serious back then and didnt want&nbsp; something for nothing. When I was younger my grandfather never pulled his badge out so we wouldnt have to wait to get into yankee games. He would just wait like the rest. You know how many cops I know will flash that badge to cut lines, to try to get something for free etc? Please its different now.</p>

[TheQuestion]

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[reeshy]

Hook, Line and Sinker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />

[El Mudo]

http://www.hillstreetblues.net/cast/images/js.jpg

"Now, here's the problem with your basic brown types....."

[El Mudo]

You know what? In all seriousness, if I didn't find these protesters to be completely despicable, I'd have more sympathy...

As it were, I have none

[Lumber]

Who will police the police? Reeshy will!

[Sheeplovr]

<p>fuck fuck fuck the police</p><p><img width="360" height="240" border="0" src="http://www.posterworx.co.nz/images/music/P721NWA_MostDangerous_M.jpg" />&nbsp;</p>

[A.J.]

<p><strong><font size="1">Who will police the police?</font></strong></p><p>The Dream Police?</p>