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Rockvillejoe

08-24-2006, 04:43 AM

I caught the Bam segment last night on my delphi replay. They had a guy named Bam on pontificating about the middle east crisis. This guy was the most irritating, stuttering, facile, uninformed, biased monoplolizer of the best damn radio show going-today! Why this douche bag? I don't even care what his politics are. He was a dim bulb. Here is a guy who said he was Jewish and just returned from Israel. So this is all of the credentials needed to go on and on  for over an hour about Lebanon/Israel? if that's the case, put me on about the NFL. I went to  a pre-season game.  I never turn the show off, until last ight.  I love to get the boys to broach subjects as important and serious as the middle east crisis once in while, but put on people that have credibility, intelligence, and don't speak like Woody Allen on crack. Awful. Now Ron too appears to be willing  taking some time off during the show, along with Fez, and letting morons prattle on about their personal agendas and political beliefs. Stop it, just stop it. Give us a Fez catty moment, ESD's growing up in Ward Cleaver land on acid, or even Bronx Johnny talking about-anything. If Bam is the only option, I vote to put on a "best of" instead of exposing the R&F nation to this amatuer, dumb,  sub level of entertainment/politics.      

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 8-24-06 @ 9:03 AM

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 04:47 AM

So R&F should not have guests on the show?

angrymissy

08-24-2006, 04:54 AM

BRING BACK SHEEPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rockvillejoe

08-24-2006, 04:55 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: So R&F should not have guests on the show? You totally miss my point. Guests that bring something to the show. This guy brough nothing but a personal agenda. Who needs that? We deserve better.

reeshy

08-24-2006, 04:55 AM

I don't think he said that.....he (and I) don't want assholes on the show wasting time!!!! They have had great guests on the show in the past and will do so in the future...just no more drivel like Bam!!!!

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 05:02 AM

Rockvillejoe wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: So R&F should not have guests on the show? You totally miss my point. Guests that bring something to the show. This guy brough nothing but a personal agenda. Who needs that? We deserve better.  That may be true but BAM isn't the first guest to bring a personal agenda to the show, and it's not like he's on the show a lot.

Rockvillejoe

08-24-2006, 05:11 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: Rockvillejoe wrote: Doctor Manhattan wrote: So R&F should not have guests on the show? You totally miss my point. Guests that bring something to the show. This guy brough nothing but a personal agenda. Who needs that? We deserve better.  That may be true but BAM isn't the first guest to bring a personal agenda to the show, and it's not like he's on the show a lot.I can't think of any other guest that has been on the show who  was allowed carte blanche to go on and on. Regardless, he was boring and insulted the listeners intelligence with his analysis of the middle eastern crisis. He tried to speak in a professiorial manner, but came across as a shit dick attempting to impress some split tail that he was "worldly". God damnit Fez, where are you? We need you more on the show!  If Bam was entertaining, fine, but he had me turning back to an O&A live replay. That never happens. 

This message was edited by Rockvillejoe on 8-24-06 @ 9:12 AM

UnknownPD

08-24-2006, 05:19 AM

I can't think of any other guest that has been on the show who  was allowed carte blanche to go on and on. Regardless, he was boring and insulted the listeners intelligence with his analysis of the middle eastern crisis. He tried to speak in a professiorial manner, but came across as a shit dick attempting to impress some split tail that he was "worldly". God damnit Fez, where are you? We need you more on the show!  If Bam was entertaining, fine, but he had me turning back to an O&A live replay. That never happens. So, what you're really saying is Ron has no idea how to run a radio show. He's the one that invited BAM in and let him do what he did.

Rockvillejoe

08-24-2006, 05:24 AM

UnknownPD wrote:  I can't think of any other guest that has been on the show who  was allowed carte blanche to go on and on. Regardless, he was boring and insulted the listeners intelligence with his analysis of the middle eastern crisis. He tried to speak in a professiorial manner, but came across as a shit dick attempting to impress some split tail that he was "worldly". God damnit Fez, where are you? We need you more on the show!  If Bam was entertaining, fine, but he had me turning back to an O&A live replay. That never happens.  So, what you're really saying is Ron has no idea how to run a radio show. He's the one that invited BAM in and let him do what he did. Even Babe Ruth struck out once in a while. Even Johnny the Wad couldn't get it up on occasion, and yes, I'll say it: Mr. B stepped on his dick on this one. BFD. It's not to say that he won't be hitting it out of the park the next time up or shooting a load the size of cup of yogurt the next time....

HBox

08-24-2006, 05:26 AM

BAM has pissed me off royally in the past but I didn't think his appearance was bad. It wasn't radio gold, but he's just a friend of the show. These are the kind of threads that make Ron say we're too negative.

angrymissy

08-24-2006, 05:26 AM

UnknownPD wrote:  I can't think of any other guest that has been on the show who  was allowed carte blanche to go on and on. Regardless, he was boring and insulted the listeners intelligence with his analysis of the middle eastern crisis. He tried to speak in a professiorial manner, but came across as a shit dick attempting to impress some split tail that he was "worldly". God damnit Fez, where are you? We need you more on the show!  If Bam was entertaining, fine, but he had me turning back to an O&A live replay. That never happens.  So, what you're really saying is Ron has no idea how to run a radio show. He's the one that invited BAM in and let him do what he did. He's saying that BAM is a shitty guest, not that Ron doesn't know how to run a radio show.  The genius of Ron is that he salvaged of bit of BAM's shittiness and make it funny (flipping out on him)

Fallon

08-24-2006, 05:34 AM

Bam's segment on my Inno was 65mins, I deleted it after a half hour. It was boring.

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 05:38 AM

God damnit Fez, where are you? We need you more on the show! Wait, is Cameron Grey posting on this board?

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 05:39 AM

Fallon wrote: Bam's segment on my Inno was 65mins, I deleted it after a half hour. It was boring. Was BAM on for that long? Did he talk about Isreal that whole time?What is Ron? The Muffin Man?<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/forum/46/topic/51971">No More Bam</a> if not BAM, can R&F have BAMF on?

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 8-24-06 @ 9:48 AM

crb1

08-24-2006, 05:43 AM

I think the fact that it pissed so many people off made it good radio.  It seemed to me that Ron was just letting him talk, and defend his position. There are two ways for that to go: 1) make strong points defending your position and educate the audience or 2)  make poor/biased points based on one side of the story, using one event to illustrate the behavior of an entire country, and basically dig your own grave.Either one can be entertaining.  I don't think the caller was a plant, simply because bam seemed to be constantly lost in thought and unable to state his point. You would think that he'd have had stonger, more defined points if that caller was a plant.  He's been on air with O&A enough that I don't think it was just a case of him being nervous.  And for an example of Ron just letting people go on and on, look no further than the Shirley Phelps Roper interviews.  Ron just let her talk and talk, and I thought that was a lot more entertaining than other people that would just tear her apart.  Ronnie always seems to know the best angle to take on any guest, whether it's arguing with them, mocking them, or just letting them babble.

Tenbatsuzen

08-24-2006, 05:52 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote:if not BAM, can R&F have BAMF on?

    <img width="180" height="180" border="0" src="http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2003/05-08-nightcrawler-inside.jpg" />

Tenbatsuzen

08-24-2006, 05:54 AM

HBox wrote: BAM has pissed me off royally in the past but I didn't think his appearance was bad. It wasn't radio gold, but he's just a friend of the show. These are the kind of threads that make Ron say we're too negative.   I agree and disagree with you.  Although the negativity on the board can reach a pretty bad level at times, Rockvillejoe had a well-though out post with his opinions and thoughts on the matter.  It wasn't a typical post like "EAST SIDE MUST DIE~!!!!`11111" or "CHEF COCK! CHEF COCK!"

dereckfishboy

08-24-2006, 05:58 AM

crb1 wrote: I don't think the caller was a plant, simply because bam seemed to be constantly lost in thought and unable to state his point. You would think that he'd have had stonger, more defined points if that caller was a plant. He's been on air with O&A enough that I don't think it was just a case of him being nervous.    Dude, he's never been on O and A for more than a few minutes at a time, and even that is for the most part exclusively over the phone. Angry Trucker has had more actual airtime on O and A than BAM, you think he'd be calm and composed?And the argument that it might not be a plant because he was lost in thought makes no sense. Who's to say he thought any points out past his opener?

dereckfishboy

08-24-2006, 06:10 AM

HBox wrote: These are the kind of threads that make Ron say we're too negative.   That might have something to do with the fact that they are on sattelite radio. A national platform threw a lot more people into the dynamic. There are all types of people nothing like the fans from Florida, NY or DC, and there are RNF fans now that were never even within earshot of them before. The board isn't as tight-knit as it used to be, and there are a lot more random whoevers (myself included of course) from all over the country posting , and I'd guess a fair amount more than a year ago. The fanbase changed, the board changed with it. I think everyone just needs to deal.

Furtherman

08-24-2006, 06:16 AM

Oh now the buddays had someone on that I don't like/disagree with/thought was boring!   WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Relax, it was ONE SHOW.  And one show will never be used to sum up an entire show's run.

crb1

08-24-2006, 06:17 AM

dereckfishboy wrote: Dude, he's never been on O and A for more than a few minutes at a time, and even that is for the most part exclusively over the phone. Angry Trucker has had more actual airtime on O and A than BAM, you think he'd be calm and composed?And the argument that it might not be a plant because he was lost in thought makes no sense. Who's to say he thought any points out past his opener?  Both good points.  You would think any time in studio would get you a little more comfortable than someone who's never met the show's hosts, but I suppose you can still be fairly nervous.And as far as the point about him having point, I'm looking at it as if I were going in studio knowing I would be talking about a certain topic (which he would have had the caller been a plant).  I would have some stronger basis for my statements than he had, or I simply wouldn't have made them.  If there's one thing Ron knows how to do, it's shoot holes in faulty logic.  So, if you plan to discuss a topic, you should be prepared to defend your stance.

dereckfishboy

08-24-2006, 06:27 AM

Yeah, but Ron really didn't need to poke holes directly, he just needed to click on the name and reason for calling. BAM is a friend of both shows after all, and he has proven to be..... sensitive we'll call it

dereckfishboy

08-24-2006, 06:29 AM

crb1 wrote:I would have some stronger basis for my statements than he had, or I simply wouldn't have made them. You know, BAM honestly isn't a dumb guy, be he's an attention whore, and I really do think he gets so fucking giddy sometimes that he doesn't think shit out in advance.

OGC

08-24-2006, 06:37 AM

BAM's appearance the other day wasn't the best radio in my opinion, but that's all it is , my opinion.Ron and Fez invited him in, talked with him, and allowed him to talk. If they thought it wasn't good radio, they would have cut his appearance short. They even said the next day that they thought it was a good appearance since it gave them information about a subject that they didn't have before.My point is that it is the Ron and Fez show, they choose what goes on, and they were happy with BAM's segment. A lot of people apparently don't like BAM and/or his opinions. Well, when he comes on, switch the channel and quite yer bitchin' .

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 06:46 AM

My point is that it is the Ron and Fez show, they choose what goes on, and they were happy with BAM's segment.And Ronnie did call BAM out on his attitude toward that caller (and spawned another thread) so you know Ronnie wasn't just giving the show to BAM and taking a mental vacation or something.Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Doctor Manhattan wrote: if not BAM, can R&F have BAMF on? <img height="180" src="http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2003/05-08-nightcrawler-inside.jpg" width="180" border="0" /> Sweet!

UnknownPD

08-24-2006, 06:48 AM

He's saying that BAM is a shitty guest, not that Ron doesn't know how to run a radio show.  The genius of Ron is that he salvaged of bit of BAM's shittiness and make it funny (flipping out on him)If Ron salvaged the bit and made it funny then why are you all complaining?

angrymissy

08-24-2006, 06:51 AM

Because there was the one funny moment thanks to Ron, and the rest was zzzz.  Jesus christ, we are allowed to post if we think something is boring, that's the point of the fucking board.  People are allowed to have an opinion on a guest.

This message was edited by angrymissy on 8-24-06 @ 10:52 AM

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 06:54 AM

angrymissy wrote: Jesus christ, we are allowed to post if we think something is boring, that's the point of the fucking board. This isn't like Kevin Smith's board?

Martin

08-24-2006, 06:58 AM

I love how he has a racist username on O&A sites : PorchMonkey4Life. and how he originally got attention on WB for his racist rants and his Nazi sig. And now he is super jew. Oh brother :rolleyes.

Contradictions in action.

This message was edited by Martin on 8-24-06 @ 11:00 AM

crb1

08-24-2006, 07:03 AM

Martin wrote: I love how he has a racist username on O&A sites : PorchMonkey4Life. and how he originally got attention on WB for his racist rants and his Nazi sig. And now he is super jew. Oh brother :rolleyes. Contradictions in action. This message was edited by Martin on 8-24-06 @ 11:00 AM That's right.  Wasn't his first in studio appearance on O&A to do the "white power news" or something similar to that?

Tenbatsuzen

08-24-2006, 07:04 AM

Martin wrote: I love how he has a racist username on O&A sites : PorchMonkey4Life. and how he originally got attention on WB for his racist rants and his Nazi sig. And now he is super jew. Oh brother :rolleyes.

Contradictions in action.

This message was edited by Martin on 8-24-06 @ 11:00 AM   In fairness to Bam, the PorchMonkey4Life screenname is more of a satire on race relations and racism, rather than being outwardly racist. At least, that's how kevin Smith sees it.  BAM... maybe not.

UnknownPD

08-24-2006, 07:21 AM

Because there was the one funny moment thanks to Ron, and the rest was zzzz.  Jesus christ, we are allowed to post if we think something is boring, that's the point of the fucking board.  People are allowed to have an opinion on a guest. I give up!

Martin

08-24-2006, 07:22 AM

Maybe but combined with his pro Nazi Racist rantings on O&A, one could wonder how much of a white power racist he really is. Then again he could be making it all up to get on the radio.

So in turn you could theorize that his comments about the Isreal Lebenon situation were made up to shock and gain attention so he could get on the radio and plug his own message board.

So what is he, a real racist, or a person who wil lie and scheme as a way to become "famous".

Bottom line how can you trust anything he says.

This message was edited by Martin on 8-24-06 @ 11:23 AM

Tenbatsuzen

08-24-2006, 07:39 AM

Martin wrote: Maybe but combined with his pro Nazi Racist rantings on O&A, one could wonder how much of a white power racist he really is. Then again he could be making it all up to get on the radio.

So in turn you could theorize that his comments about the Isreal Lebenon situation were made up to shock and gain attention so he could get on the radio and plug his own message board.

So what is he, a real racist, or a person who wil lie and scheme as a way to become "famous".

Bottom line how can you trust anything he says.    Right.  He's trying to be a shocking board character and port it over to radio, which doesn't work.  You can exagerrate yourself on the show, but the key is to be YOURSELF.

Doctor Manhattan

08-24-2006, 07:42 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote:  Martin wrote: I love how he has a racist username on O&A sites : PorchMonkey4Life. and how he originally got attention on WB for his racist rants and his Nazi sig. And now he is super jew. Oh brother :rolleyes. Contradictions in action. This message was edited by Martin on 8-24-06 @ 11:00 AM  In fairness to Bam, the PorchMonkey4Life screenname is more of a satire on race relations and racism, rather than being outwardly racist.At least, that's how kevin Smith sees it.  BAM... maybe not.  You all have BAM wrong on the PorchMonkey4Life screenname, He's just taking it back!

Tenbatsuzen

08-24-2006, 08:34 AM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Martin wrote: I love how he has a racist username on O&A sites : PorchMonkey4Life. and how he originally got attention on WB for his racist rants and his Nazi sig. And now he is super jew. Oh brother :rolleyes. Contradictions in action. This message was edited by Martin on 8-24-06 @ 11:00 AM In fairness to Bam, the PorchMonkey4Life screenname is more of a satire on race relations and racism, rather than being outwardly racist.At least, that's how kevin Smith sees it. BAM... maybe not. You all have BAM wrong on the PorchMonkey4Life screenname, He's just taking it back!   I'd prefer it if he fucked a donkey.

AKA

08-24-2006, 09:32 AM

BAM is a friend of the show and does a lot to promote the show, so that's all fine with me - however, there is major hypocracy in how he behaves between the different communities (FBA's pic use rules is beyond inane), and honestly him using an image of a lynching with "Happy Martin Luther King" day is beyond the pale - "bit" or not.

JustJon

08-24-2006, 09:41 AM

AKA wrote: BAM is a friend of the show and does a lot to promote the show, so that's all fine with me - however, there is major hypocracy in how he behaves between the different communities (FBA's pic use rules is beyond inane), and honestly him using an image of a lynching with "Happy Martin Luther King" day is beyond the pale - "bit" or not.   Are their pic rules anything like stealing picture sets wholesale from other sites?

TokeOne

08-24-2006, 01:37 PM

It isn't a knock on Ron and Fez to say that Bam came across as a mouth breathing idiot auditioning for Bill O'Reilly or the 700 Club. It is still a great show and Ron managed to salvage the segment for all it is worth. But, hopefully that idiot is banned from the show because he was awful.