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Judge Smails

09-07-2006, 11:57 AM

<a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/06/star.trek.40/" target="_self">William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy first appeared as "Star Trek's" Capt. James T. Kirk and his first officer, Mr. Spock, on September 8, 1966</a> LIVE LONG AND PROSPER!<img height="239" src="http://www.thebusinessofamericaisbusiness.biz/trekkies-thumb.jpg" width="201" border="0" /><img src="http://www.mala.bc.ca/~soules/media112/zine2001/ta/trekkies.jpg" border="0" /><img src="http://static.flickr.com/32/42997100_691f2aa118_m.jpg" border="0" /><img height="181" src="http://dammitja.net/vegas/ph-07-37.jpg" width="369" border="0" />

Doctor Manhattan

09-07-2006, 12:04 PM

You mean the singer from the Bens Fold CD was on Star Trek with the guy who sung the Bilbo Baggins song?<img src="http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/5064/picardty2.jpg" border="0" />I thought Star Trek premeired on September 26th 1987

jeffdwright2001

09-07-2006, 12:05 PM

Judge Smails wrote: <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/06/star.trek.40/" target="_self">William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy first appeared as "Star Trek's" Capt. James T. Kirk and his first officer, Mr. Spock, on September 8, 1966</a> LIVE LONG AND PROSPER!<img src="http://www.mala.bc.ca/~soules/media112/zine2001/ta/trekkies.jpg" border="0" />Guess who will be excited to see dognuts in dressing.

booster11373

09-07-2006, 12:09 PM

Doctor Manhattan wrote: <img src="http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/5064/picardty2.jpg" border="0" />I thought Star Trek premiered on September 26th 1987The good one did! NEXT GENERATION BABY!!!!!!!!!!

Tall_James

09-07-2006, 12:13 PM

<img height="234" src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/gettcd/trekkie.jpg" width="163" border="0" />Ensign Cuddlebear wishes you a happy birthday!

Tenbatsuzen

09-07-2006, 12:13 PM

Sheeplovr

09-07-2006, 12:13 PM

i love star trek

booster11373

09-07-2006, 12:28 PM

My favorite by far<img height="318" src="http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_sexual_tension_preview.jpg" width="432" border="0" />

DoubleJ

09-07-2006, 12:43 PM

In Living Color - Star Trek skit

With Jim Carey's over the top portrayal of Captain Kirk

<a target='blank' href=http://youtube.com/watch?v=qt2HyJsWnTs&mode=related&search=>http://youtube.com/watch?v=qt2HyJsWnTs&mode=related&search=</a>

Tall_James

09-07-2006, 12:53 PM

<img height="427" src="http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/4301/inspmuddsg3.jpg" width="562" border="0" />That is a fucking guy in drag on the left.  Look at those shoulders, the masculine facial features, the cock.He's boldly going where no man has gone before.

Furtherman

09-07-2006, 01:02 PM

DoubleJ wrote: In Living Color - Star Trek skit With Jim Carey's over the top portrayal of Captain Kirk <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=qt2HyJsWnTs&mode=related&search=" target="blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=qt2HyJsWnTs&mode=related&search=</a> That is funnier than anything SNL has done in years.

Furtherman

09-07-2006, 02:03 PM

<a href="http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=16298" target="_blank">Star Trek Entering a New Frontier</a> <div>Source: CBS </div><div>August 31, 2006</div> <div>"Star Trek" is getting a 21st century makeover. CBS Paramount Domestic Television is releasing digitally remastered episodes of the iconic 1960s sci-fi series, with all new special effects and music, to celebrate the groundbreaking series' 40th anniversary, it was announced today by John Nogawski, president of CBS Paramount Domestic Television. The most noticeable change will be redoing many of the special effects, created with 1960s technology, with 21st century computer-generated imagery (CGI). That includes: • Space ship exteriors -- The space ship Enterprise, as well as other Starships, will be replaced with state of the art CGI-created ships. The new computer-generated Enterprise is based on the exact measurements of the original model, which now rests in the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. • Show opening -- The Enterprise and planets seen in the main title sequence will be redone, giving them depth and dimension for the first time. • Galaxy shots -- All the graphics of the galaxy, so frequently seen through the window on the Enterprise's bridge, will be redone. • Exteriors -- The battle scenes, planets and ships from other cultures (notably the Romulan Bird of Prey and Klingon Battle Cruisers) will be updated. • Background scenes -- Some of the iconic, yet flat, matte paintings used as backdrops for the strange, new worlds explored by the Enterprise crew will get a CGI face-lift, adding atmosphere and lighting. The refurbished episodes also feature higher quality sound for the famous opening theme. The original score by Emmy Award-winning composer Alexander Courage has been re-recorded in state-of-the-art digital stereo audio with an orchestra and a female singer belting out the famous vocals. A digitally remastered version of William Shatner's classic original recording of the 38-word "Space, the final frontier…" monologue continues to open each episode. </div>

Sheeplovr

09-07-2006, 02:07 PM

I wish they would digitle re do the make up on the kling ons or atlest officaly explain why the old kinglons look so diffrfnt my dad had a good idea on why they are diffrnt but my dad doesnt write for star trek so what the what what

Doctor Manhattan

09-07-2006, 05:37 PM

Sheeplovr wrote: I wish they would digitle re do the make up on the kling ons or atlest officaly explain why the old kinglons look so diffrfnt my dad had a good idea on why they are diffrnt but my dad doesnt write for star trek so what the what what The official reason they look different is because it was 1967 and it was a low budget TV show, they first "modern" Kligon was made for a high budget feature film 10 years later and it would look silly to keep the Kligons makeup the same.Same reason the Enterprise looks different.

silas

09-07-2006, 05:55 PM

IIRC, during the DS9 ep when they time travel back to the original series classic "Tribbles" ep,  someone asks Wharf why Klingons look different; he says (with Star Treky brand of humor) it is something that Klingons do not discuss with outsiders

FUNKMAN

09-07-2006, 08:17 PM

Star Trek,<img height="168" src="http://www.abcme.com/imagesredone/birthdaypeaceanim1.gif" width="271" border="0" />Funkkeep it real

suggums

09-07-2006, 09:03 PM

FUNKMAN wrote: Star Trek,<img width="271" height="168" border="0" src="http://www.abcme.com/imagesredone/birthdaypeaceanim1.gif" />Funkkeep it real  you just use that guy like a 2 dolla whore

A.J.

09-08-2006, 04:08 AM

"BEEP!"<img height="240" src="http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200303/tos-016-the-badly-injured-pike/320x240.jpg" width="320" border="0" />

Thebazile78

09-08-2006, 04:49 AM

silas wrote: IIRC, during the DS9 ep when they time travel back to the original series classic "Tribbles" ep, someone asks Wharf why Klingons look different; he says (with Star Treky brand of humor) it is something that Klingons do not discuss with outsiders   That's actually part of where Dad got the idea for his unified theory of Klingons. It has nothing to do with low-budget makeup. Dad's unified Klingon theory is that the Klingons encountered by the Enterprise NCC-1701 were not "true" Klingons, but rather galactic outliers who'd adopted Klingon customs and mannerisms, much like the people of the Roman Provinces did during the Imperial period of Rome. The crew of the Enterprise simply did not encounter "true" Klingons until much later, as they had explored deeper into Klingon space. It makes perfect sense, you know.  AJ - nice Capt. Pike reference, BTW.  And for all its cheesiness, a lot of the TOS plotlines were rather sophisticated. They even had some GROUNDBREAKING moments, including in the pilot ('The Cage', which was remixed into 'The Menagerie') where the First Officer isn't Spock. It's a WOMAN. . .the network was a little wary of that particular innovation, so she disappeared and Spock got promoted to First Officer/Science Officer by the time it reached the airwaves. Nichelle Nicholls (Lt. Uhura) was among a HANDFUL of African-Americans in general, and African-American WOMEN in particular, to NOT play what Dad describes as a "jiving-and-shucking Negro", but rather Lt. Uhura, the Communications Officer for the Enterprise. Not a maid or other servant/slave type role. This is HUGE, especially because TV women are constantly in a state of flux.Also along those lines, TOS featured TV's FIRST interracial kiss - between Capt. Kirk and Lt. Uhura.  Yes, the acting was/is bad. Yes, it was made on a shoestring budget.  But, goddamn, like so much science fiction before and since, it's been among our inspirations for achievements in physics, computer science, biology, space exploration, astronomy. . .you name it, it's had an impact. Hell, they've even named scientific concepts and subatomic particles after Star Trek concepts!!!

Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2006, 05:04 AM

It has nothing to do with low-budget makeup.  Of course it has EVERYTHING to do with it! In real life at least. It was a TV show in 1967. If they had more money they would have done an alien species better than that. In 1979 they had the chance to do so when they had more money to do the movie, thanks to George Lucas and Star Wars, BTW!Of course that's the real life answer, in the Star Trek storyline you can't blame the budget (why did the Enterprise before Kirk have much better production value than Kirk's) But you can't tell me that Kirk and Spock are going to be fooled by humans pretending to be Kligons with some dark make up.Remember the Tribbles? They hate Kligons and that fact helped Kirk and Co. discover a Kligon disquised as a human. If the Kligons were just humans who wanted to be Kligons the Tribbles would have purred for them to like they do with all Humans instead of shriek like they do with Kligons.from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_With_Tribbles_(TOS_episode)" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a>: Furthermore, the tribbles also give away the identity of a Klingon agent who did the poisoning. The saboteur was the only humanoid the tribbles didn't like: Arne Darvin, Baris's own assistant. Upon a medical scan by Dr. McCoy, it is revealed that Darvin was indeed a Klingon in disguise.   So some lame make up is going to fool the whole Federation?Did you guys know that Scotty invented the Klingon Language?Edit: While looking around Wikipedia I ran across the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon#The_cause_revealed" target="_blank">Star Trek Universe's reason for the change in Kligon's apperance over the years</a> It was explaned during a couple episode's of Enterprise, and it's really stupid. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon#Human-looking_Klingons" target="_blank">The real reason is the budget, also mentioned in Wikipedia</a>

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 9-8-06 @ 9:23 AM

Thebazile78

09-08-2006, 10:45 AM

I never said that the outliers were humans in makeup, Mr. Smarty-Pants. I was simply explicating the short-form of Dad's unifed Klingon theory.  Dad's unified Klingon theory involves outliers in the first contacts between the Klingon Empire and the Federation (by way of JT Kirk and the Enterprise). Neither Dad nor I ever once said that these outliers were humans. For all I know they could be Cardassian, but it's not really important. Now, the Tribble point is a good one. Dad probably didn't think of that because he has a very selective memory. However, now that you've brought it up, I wonder if the tribble-detector works on half-blood (or less) Klingons? Does it? Couldn't that Klingon agent have been posing as a human precisely BECAUSE he's not full-blood Klingon and was therefore more easily disguised as such? What exactly do tribbles pick up on in Klingons (and, conversely, Klingons pick up in Tribbles) that makes them so incompatible?

Furtherman

09-08-2006, 11:08 AM

Are you guys arguing about Klingon's foreheads?

Thebazile78

09-08-2006, 11:25 AM

Furtherman wrote: Are you guys arguing about Klingon's foreheads?  We're not exactly arguing, but rather having a discussion. Besides, I never denied that I was a nerd.  Except for that time in high school when this rotten kid used to sit across from me at the lunchroom and flick my forehead and say "nerd, nerd, nerd" as he flicked my head. Man, I fucking hated high school.

Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2006, 11:30 AM

Furtherman wrote: Are you guys arguing about Klingon's foreheads? Yes, and if there is any day to geek out on star trek it is on it's 40th anniversary.But my true purpose is to call out his Dad's theory. What the fuck is an "outlier"?:out·li·er (out'l?'?r) <img alt="pronunciation" src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/pron.gif" align="middle" border="0" /> n.  <ol><li>One whose domicile lies at an appreciable distance from his or her place of business. </li><li>A value far from most others in a set of data: “Outliers make statistical analyses difficult” (Harvey Motulsky). </li><li>Geology. A portion of stratified rock separated from a main formation by erosion. </li></ol><ol>So the Klingon's on the old TV show were Klingon's who lived far away from where they work (on the Klingon Moon that blows up in Star Trek 6 perhaps?)Your Dad's theory doesn't matter: Star Trek Enterprise gave us a lame excuse to cover the true reason Klingon's look different: NBC's 1960s TV Makeup Budget vs. Paramount's Late 1970's Feature Film Makeup Budget, and the improvement made on Star Trek III (The forehead bump designs were further changed for that movie vs. what was seen in Star Trek I. And what is up with General Chang from Star Trek VI?)</ol>

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 9-8-06 @ 3:36 PM

Thebazile78

09-08-2006, 11:33 AM

Fuck Enterprise.  An "outlier" can also mean someone or something who resides beyond the central reaches of a particular Empire. Much like the term "provincial".   Lastly, don't EVER mess with Dad while I'm online.

Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2006, 11:42 AM

Sorry dude, your Dad is just wrong. They are all Klingons. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon" target="_blank">The Klingon Empire was founded circa 900 AD on the Klingon homeworld of Qo'noS by Kahless the Unforgettable when he slew the tyrant, Molor.</a> And all the people we called "Kligons" ever since 1967 have come from that same fictitious planet.During that awful series Enterprise (I agree with you there, I only saw the first couple episodes and gave up, same with DS9 and Voyager) Some got sick and ended up looking different, but the real reason they look different is because they aren't real and different people have designed them over the past 40 years. It's impossible to keep it consistant with that working against them.

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 9-8-06 @ 3:44 PM

Mike Teacher

09-08-2006, 11:48 AM

Hell, they've even named scientific concepts and subatomic particles after Star Trek concepts!!! =A Space Shuttle too.Shatners book 'Get a Life' is a must read for any fan of anything sci-fi, or any fan in general. Fantastic.

patsopinion

09-08-2006, 11:55 AM

with the complete failure of the most rectent 3 star trek series what will be the next one?In next gen. wesley crusher was built up to be this brainiac who was going to change the galaxy but the show never really saw him get out of annoying academy issues.  I think the next series should be him traveling in that little warp bubble he created at one point.  going to completely new galaxies and seeing all new things all the time.  The best part about voyager was the first season.  Well with a super traveling ship he could have a compltely new galaxy every episode.Just a thought that has been lingering for a while

Doctor Manhattan

09-08-2006, 11:57 AM

In next gen. wesley crusher was built up to be this brainiac who was going to change the galaxy but the show never really saw him get out of annoying academy issues.    You mean he didn't change the Galaxy by attending the Riker/Troi Wedding, and not saying one word?Since it's 40 years today I think I'm gonna watch Star Trek tonight. I don't have any of the shows on DVD so I'll watch Wrath of Khan or Star Trek 6.

This message was edited by Doctor Manhattan on 9-8-06 @ 3:58 PM