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soupcan

09-12-2006, 08:44 PM

when did "the war on terror" become "the war against radical islam" ?  - why the switch?-How long before it becomes "the war on islam ."?

suggums

09-12-2006, 08:55 PM

its just a bunch of double-speak, everyone on both sides is gonna do the same shit anyways regardless of what you call this conflict

A.J.

09-13-2006, 03:13 AM

soupcan wrote: when did "the war on terror" become "the war against radical islam" ?  - why the switch?-How long before it becomes "the war on islam ."?  If you read the Arab papers, most citizens think it already IS "the war on islam".

furie

09-13-2006, 06:34 AM

it's spin to broaden the appeal of the war.
it's like the civil war going from a war about state's rights to also being about slavery mid-war.

MadMatt

09-13-2006, 06:42 AM

furie wrote: it's spin to broaden the appeal of the war. it's like the civil war going from a war about state's rights to also being about slavery mid-war. Wow, good analogy.I think they also changed to "radical Islam" so the war in Iraq could be wrapped-up in the issue as well.  After they couldn't find WMD the gov't couldn't really say invading Iraq was helping to stop terrorism - not without some kind of uproar.  Although Iraq isn't really a radical Islamic state, it's an easier concept to defend/spin than the terror angle.

sailor

09-13-2006, 07:03 AM

soupcan wrote: when did "the war on terror" become "the war against radical islam" ? - why the switch?-How long before it becomes "the war on islam ."? radical islam = islam

phixion

09-13-2006, 09:38 AM

radical islam = islam wow even jokes like this do nothing but bad things. and god i hope it was a joke.

HBox

09-13-2006, 09:43 AM

phixion wrote:  radical islam = islam  wow even jokes like this do nothing but bad things. and god i hope it was a joke.   Why do you hate America?

sailor

09-13-2006, 09:54 AM

phixion wrote:  radical islam = islam  wow even jokes like this do nothing but bad things. and god i hope it was a joke.   no joke, sadly.  any religion that sentences someone to death for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Rahman_(convert)" target="_blank" title="abdul rahman">converting </a>would have to be called a little radical.  or, what about a religion that riots over <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_cartoons" target="_blank" title="cartoons">cartoons</a>?  and for those who see a difference between a war on terror and a war on radical islam, who exactly are the terrorists?  also, islam has violent clashes with <a href="http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,213670,00.html" target="_blank" title="hindus too!">EVERY</a> religion.

phixion

09-13-2006, 10:54 AM

yes and lets call all christians catholicsthis why im ashamed to be an american sometimes, not all ideologies of islam are the same just as all ideologies of christianity are not the same. fuckin rednecks down south who truly believe that blacks jews and gays are hellspawn call themselves CHRISTIANS!!! but i seriously doubt many of us would like to be grouped with those jackasses. best of all do u understand that islam has permeated more than one region of the world? look at the caribbean most specifically trinidad and tobago. one third of the country muslim, one third hindu and one third christian. and you know what violence because of religion almost never occurs so stop grouping them all together okay. far more often violence in trinidad has occured because of race.what about muslims in NY that do nothing but their job? are they all evil are they all looking to destroy american ideals and values? fuck and as far as your news articles we cna all point to the extremes of populations and say these people define you. so in effect they all take the blame for the actions of a few. so what if i blame you for the actions of your neighbor? what if i say you guys go to the same church so your just as guilty? would that be fucking just?

phixion

09-13-2006, 11:09 AM

and one moer thing i noticed one your articles bronxmarc happened to talk about the violence in india due to muslima nd hindu frictions, well lets take a history lesson shall we? india was a hindu society deeply entrenched in the caste system. once islam happened to make its way to india and people began to convert to islam hte caste system was disrupted. the especially poor happened to gravitate toward islam and converted their by allowing them to shrug off the caste system and throw away confines of whatever caste they were born into. affording them social mobility instead of docility, this angered the rich hindus because these poor people were supposed to know their place. thus muslims were killed for converting and that began a war that finally ended once pakistan separated from india. same exact people two different religions, two different countries. yes we can tak semantics that the war is still taking place but that just showboating, neither one of them willing to admit defeat nor neutrality. they are the same people divided because of religion.so yeah the context of your link seemed to say the hindus are blame free and thats a fuckin joke.

sailor

09-13-2006, 11:11 AM

if it happened every week that someone from my church was causing violence, yeah, you could lump me in with them.  after a while the facts speak for themselves.  and what corner of the world was i isolating?  the middle east?  europe?  india?  pretty large corner, wouldn't you say?  and it's not isolated bad muslims, don't be naive.

sailor

09-13-2006, 11:18 AM

phixion wrote: and one moer thing i noticed one your articles bronxmarc happened to talk about the violence in india due to muslima nd hindu frictions, well lets take a history lesson shall we? india was a hindu society deeply entrenched in the caste system. once islam happened to make its way to india and people began to convert to islam hte caste system was disrupted. the especially poor happened to gravitate toward islam and converted their by allowing them to shrug off the caste system and throw away confines of whatever caste they were born into. affording them social mobility instead of docility, this angered the rich hindus because these poor people were supposed to know their place. thus muslims were killed for converting and that began a war that finally ended once pakistan separated from india. same exact people two different religions, two different countries. yes we can tak semantics that the war is still taking place but that just showboating, neither one of them willing to admit defeat nor neutrality. they are the same people divided because of religion.so yeah the context of your link seemed to say the hindus are blame free and thats a fuckin joke.   i'm not saying they're not to blame, but who is warring with the hindus?  who is warring with the jews?  who is warring with christianity?  after a while, you begin to notice a pattern.  also, what happens when you write a book about mohammed?  your life is threatened.  what if you make a 10 minute movie about the violence toward women prevelant in muslim society?  you are murdered.  the religion is based upon violence.  read the koran and you'll see this.

phixion

09-13-2006, 11:21 AM

so if i said i was muslim which im not would that automatically make me a terrorist?what about my cousins who are muslim who have lived in NY all their lives who have doen nothing but annoy me with stupid banter about digital cameras, are they evil too? are they plotting to destroy this country?was malcolm x pure evil? was he willing to destroy the twin towers to prove his point?and finally one last question since this without question borders on racism,and is  well into prejudice territory, is racism wrong? because if you truly believe racism is wrong then you cant believe that all muslims are terrorists. and byw i noticed that whole 'not all christians are catholics' cliche is lost on you trying to impose the same cliche on the islamic world......thats a shame

NortonRules

09-13-2006, 11:24 AM

Radical Islamists are trying to kill us.  What the fuck don't you understand?

sailor

09-13-2006, 11:38 AM

of course not all muslims are terrorists, but many are.  the basic tenets of the religion preach violence.  where are the muslim protests against the radicals?  where are the marches in the streets?  of course racism and religious intolerance are wrong.  der.  but, if white people were going around killing koreans all the time across the world, while whites everywhere were silent, would i hold it against the koreans for fearing whites and saying they were all evil?  of course not.

phixion

09-13-2006, 11:41 AM

but who is warring with the hindus?  who is warring with the jews?  who is warring with christianitythye have all warred with each as with themselves except for jews i havent had a history lesson where two jewish armies went up against each other anyone?but i digress the hindus started that fucking war eons ago. see above where hindus killed muslims because they converted to islam and threw the shackles of the caste system off. see that means that the HINDUS STARTED THE DAMN WAR. the crusades? guess who started that too CHRISTIANS and JEWs and them will always battle over their holy lands. so yeah its easy to be in alot of wars when you dont start it. and make no mistake aobut it this present day crises were all seeds that were sown in the actions of our forefathers forefathers. and im not defending terrorists im defending muslims. im defending my muslim grandfather for raising his four children as presbyterians because that was teh only church that would allow him to marry my anglican grandmother. so yeah i take offense to you attacking my family because of their religion. thats like me sayng all white people are evil racists who are simply trying to make money and rape the planet. there are plenty of white poepl like that so why wont i ever say that? because not ALL of them are like that. the only racial insults i ever got was from white people, ive been called camel jockey, sand nigger and just plain nigger (that was from a little girl in a grocery store that was fun) i have more than enought reasons to say all white poeple are just like this but i cant you know why cuz my best friend in teh world is white. cuz i know that not everyone is made up by theri skin color or who they hang out with. and nortonfan im trying to distinguish between radicals islam and not radical

Enabler

09-13-2006, 11:43 AM

Regardless of the actions of YOUR cousins, you can not deny that radical Islam the source of 99% of terrorist acts in the world. The worst part for your cousins and other peaceful Islamists is that their messages and views are overshadowed immensely by the acts of the radicals. Even if these terrorists have every right to be pissed off at America...they lose ANY validity when they resort to such barbaric tactics (beheadings, suicide bombings, hijackings). And lets not forget that these "radicals" have no problem lumping all non-arabs together in one category. Racism is bad. No argument here. But lets get real. The anti-american sentiment in the angry moslem world is WAY stronger than the anti-arab sentiment in america. At this point, I believe they still have way more hate for us than we do for them. And finally, it should be the DUTY of peaceful american moslems and moslems abroad (who most people dont have beef with) to step up and take control of "their" religion.

phixion

09-13-2006, 11:44 AM

this radical islam = islam[/QUOTEand this [QUOTE]of course not all muslims are terroristsare exact opposites.  and that second one, thats the point i was trying to make. i wasnt sure if you got it

Dougie Brootal

09-13-2006, 11:46 AM

when are you people gonna learn that all religion is the root of all evil?

phixion

09-13-2006, 11:46 AM

radical Islam the source of 99% of terrorist acts fagenabler i agree with the above statement i just hate it when people assume all muslims are radicals muslims because they arent

Enabler

09-13-2006, 11:47 AM

douggrasso wrote: when are you people gonna learn that all religion is the root of all evil?Ding Ding Ding. Tell him what he wins Fez.

Enabler

09-13-2006, 11:54 AM

phixion wrote:  radical Islam the source of 99% of terrorist acts  fagenabler i agree with the above statement i just hate it when people assume all muslims are radicals muslims because they arent I totally agree. I just wish the "good" moslems were more prominent and able to lead their people better. I dont hate moslems at all, and im sure im not alone. We just cant keep being blindly politcaly correct and acting like some blonde haired blue eyed swede is just as likely to blow up a plane as an arab. It really does suck for peaceful moslems, but what can we do. A little extra pat down at an airport is in no way equl to the despicable treatment of the japanese americans during ww2. On the whole, I beleiev americans realize that not all moslems are responsible for terrorism...but sadly I also beleiev that most americans wanna shit themselves when they see a grumpy arab looking guy on a plane. Its sad but true.

sailor

09-13-2006, 11:59 AM

phixion wrote: this radical islam = islam[/QUOTE and this of course not all muslims are terrorists are exact opposites. and that second one, thats the point i was trying to make. i wasnt sure if you got it  not nearly opposites, they are consistent with one another.  i believe the religion (islam) is a radical, violent religion.  i don't believe all its adherents (muslims) are terrorists. <blockquote />

phixion

09-13-2006, 12:15 PM

i believe the religion (islam) is a radical, violent religionseriously now i want you to prove it to me. i want the cites from the qu'ran. cuz as far as i understand it saying things like that would have to applied to christianity and judaism as well because islam accepts the pentateuch (sp?) and the new testament as part of their owl religion. they accept abraham, moses, and jesus and all the rest as prophets. and i want more than one place cause the Sin of Onan is only mentioned in one place in the bible and some christians still believe jerking off is against gods will.

narc

09-13-2006, 12:25 PM

<hr color="cococo" align="left">phixion wrote: <hr color="cococo" align="left"> but who is warring with the hindus? who is warring with the jews? who is warring with christianity<hr color="cococo" align="left">thye have all warred with each as with themselves except for jews i havent had a history lesson where two jewish armies went up against each other anyone?bbut i digress the hindus started that fucking war eons ago. see above where hindus killed muslims because they converted to islam and threw the shackles of the caste system off. see that means that the HINDUS STARTED THE DAMN WAR. the crusades? guess who started that too CHRISTIANS and JEWs and them will always battle over their holy lands. so yeah its easy to be in alot of wars when you dont start it. and make no mistake aobut it this present day crises were all seeds that were sown in the actions of our forefathers forefathers. and im not defending terrorists im defending muslims. im defending my muslim grandfather for raising his four children as presbyterians because that was teh only church that would allow him to marry my anglican grandmother. so yeah i take offense to you attacking my family because of their religion. thats like me sayng all white people are evil racists who are simply trying to make money and rape the planet. there are plenty of white poepl like that so why wont i ever say that? because not ALL of them are like that. the only racial insults i ever got was from white people, ive been called camel jockey, sand nigger and just plain nigger (that was from a little girl in a grocery store that was fun) i have more than enought reasons to say all white poeple are just like this but i cant you know why cuz my best friend in teh world is white. cuz i know that not everyone is made up by theri skin color or who they hang out with. and nortonfan im trying to distinguish between radicals islam and not radical<hr color="cococo" align="left">

The Jews fought each other plenty, mostly over political things during the Second Temple period. When the Romans finally came to besiege Jerusalem, the Jews inside were fighting each other as well as the Romans. That made it hard for them to win. The fact that they haven't fought each other since then is mostly due to the fact that they have been an utterly dispossessed, dispersed and oppressed minority. It's hard to fight anyone when you've got that going on. The fact that they haven't since Israel was founded as a state is because their neighbors have done such a good job of making security a unifying issue for them. 
Jews had absolutely nothing to do with the Crusades starting. Christians did in a big way, but it was only after the Muslims DESTROYED one of the more holy sites of Christendom and started invading the Byzantine empire. So you can't say Muslims had nothing to do with the start of the Crusades. 
Similarly, India was invaded by Muslims, who weren't particularly tolerant of Hinduism and destroyed a lot of Hindu temples and forced a lot of people to convert. So you can't just say that Muslims didn't start these conflicts because they did invade a fuckload of places, and it's sort of naive to think that other people wouldn't fight back. 
But getting back to the main point of the thread, "war on terrorism" was silly from the get go. If this was an international war on terror, there'd be a lot more focus on other terrorist groups. When was the last time you heard an American making a big fuss about the IRA, FARC, the goddamn Basque separatists or Chechnya for example?

phixion

09-13-2006, 12:31 PM

India was invaded by Muslimsi was under the understanding that muslims not necessarily the people as such but the relgion and religious ideals made theri way to india long before any islamic army did. but anyway thanks for the hot jew on jew info i have something to research instead actual school work.

sailor

09-13-2006, 12:39 PM

i'm not some religious scholar.  i'm not about to quote the koran or bible to anyone.  a quick search came up with this site on violence in <a href="http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/ten_reasons.htm" target="_blank" title="violence">islam</a>, but i can't vouch for their facts/interpretation. btw, i had a muslim friend in my college years who in the early 90s went to afghanistan or pakistan to fight and ended up getting killed (i'm hazy one the actual details.)

phixion

09-13-2006, 12:44 PM

you expect me to take an article entitled the "top ten reasons why islam is not a religion of peace" seriously? try credible sources, how about a single website that ends with .edu i can find an article just as easily saying bush caused 9/11 and just because it says so that doesnt make it true.

sailor

09-13-2006, 12:53 PM

phixion wrote: you expect me to take an article entitled the "top ten reasons why islam is not a religion of peace" seriously? try credible sources, how about a single website that ends with .edu i can find an article just as easily saying bush caused 9/11 and just because it says so that doesnt make it true.   you want proof that it's violent, but discount a site because it says the religion is violent?  quite a restriction. you can do your own research and believe whatever your heart desires.  heck, get back to your schoolwork and worry about all this later.  i refuse to distract you from your studies any longer.  :)

phixion

09-13-2006, 01:23 PM

ok an article which uses the word presumably in an editorial is not being objective. im looking for objectivity and try and be condescending to me simply because im in college. in your article reason number one he says muhammad named his weapons, so that means hes violent. cause anyone who names their gun is violent. so when people in the army name their guns they are displaying their truly aggresive natures for the rest of us?Muslim apologists may object that Tabari is not authoritative (except when he shows Muhammad as heroic or victorious) every one else see the objectivity in this sentencenext reason mohammed says adulterers and adulterouses must be given 100 hundred lashes, see how its diffrerent from the judaic custom of the time? the guy gets stoned along with the woman thats much worse than just the woman i see the point of the article now.8 mohommad allowed men to beat their wives, because the arab world was far more barbaric than their eurpoean counterparts who never struck a woman. they were all above that7 mohommed commands that hands of thieves must be cut off, see hammurabi code the first written law ever, its  a bit older than the qu'ran and loved the eye for an eye theroy as well. its thought of quite fondly in the middle east in general.6 mohammad assassinates poets, who disagree with them...unlike the catholic churches policy of excommunication where no catholic would speak to you and before the separation of christianity that was everyone, so instead of a quick death, your gonna have a long lonely life with no hope whatsoever, so very very different.5 muhammad demands the cutting off of hands and feet or death to those who corrupt the land. because again unlike the rest of world muslims are more  barbaric so much so that they wont allow people to do what ever they want on their land. crazy like is someone tried robbing your house you should not be allowed to kill him or hurt him in anyway.4 mohammed aggresively attacks caravans heading for mecca unlike so many other people who are trying to keep their holy land forthemselves.....3 77 virgins for warriors in a holy war so unlike the elysian fields ancient greeks referred to as the afterlife for truly great warriors who died in the heat of battle.2 muhammad unjustly executes jews and enslave their women who were POW's so unlike the policy of the time they killed the males and enslaved the women its a good thing no other people in ancient times enslaved the fallen except for romans any one else who had any kind of decent empire1 muhammad launches a war and levies a tax upon its newly conquereed people. thats right muslim people came up with the idea of holy war never before in the history of the world have people warred over what their beliefes are.

joeyballsack

09-13-2006, 01:32 PM

Cant you just watch the news for evidence that Islam is a violent religion ?

narc

09-13-2006, 01:32 PM

It's actually sort of mixed. Some parts of India along the Southern coast were doing business with Arab traders for awhile before things like the Delhi Sultanate were set up. It would've been bad business for them so they got along with the Hindus fine.

sailor

09-13-2006, 01:37 PM

phixion wrote: ok an article which uses the word presumably in an editorial is not being objective. im looking for objectivity and try and be condescending to me simply because im in college. in your article reason number one he says muhammad named his weapons, so that means hes violent. cause anyone who names their gun is violent. so when people in the army name their guns they are displaying their truly aggresive natures for the rest of us? Muslim apologists may object that Tabari is not authoritative (except when he shows Muhammad as heroic or victorious) every one else see the objectivity in this sentence next reason mohammed says adulterers and adulterouses must be given 100 hundred lashes, see how its diffrerent from the judaic custom of the time? the guy gets stoned along with the woman thats much worse than just the woman i see the point of the article now.8 mohommad allowed men to beat their wives, because the arab world was far more barbaric than their eurpoean counterparts who never struck a woman. they were all above that7 mohommed commands that hands of thieves must be cut off, see hammurabi code the first written law ever, its a bit older than the qu'ran and loved the eye for an eye theroy as well. its thought of quite fondly in the middle east in general.6 mohammad assassinates poets, who disagree with them...unlike the catholic churches policy of excommunication where no catholic would speak to you and before the separation of christianity that was everyone, so instead of a quick death, your gonna have a long lonely life with no hope whatsoever, so very very different.5 muhammad demands the cutting off of hands and feet or death to those who corrupt the land. because again unlike the rest of world muslims are more barbaric so much so that they wont allow people to do what ever they want on their land. crazy like is someone tried robbing your house you should not be allowed to kill him or hurt him in anyway.4 mohammed aggresively attacks caravans heading for mecca unlike so many other people who are trying to keep their holy land forthemselves.....3 77 virgins for warriors in a holy war so unlike the elysian fields ancient greeks referred to as the afterlife for truly great warriors who died in the heat of battle.2 muhammad unjustly executes jews and enslave their women who were POW's so unlike the policy of the time they killed the males and enslaved the women its a good thing no other people in ancient times enslaved the fallen except for romans any one else who had any kind of decent empire1 muhammad launches a war and levies a tax upon its newly conquereed people. thats right muslim people came up with the idea of holy war never before in the history of the world have people warred over what their beliefes are.  "i can't vouch for their facts/interpretation"  also, i wasn't being condescending, i was being friendly and joking around with you.  none of your counter arguments have done anything to sway me, nor will i try to say you any further.

Yerdaddy

09-14-2006, 05:09 AM

Interesting discussion so far. No minds being changed but pretty civil, which is a change. I was just thinking about not posting for fear of ruining it. As if!!!I'll just add this: Last week <a href="http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/mmalkin.htm" target="_blank">this op-ed</a> by some American right-wing Muslim-hater was reprinted in the Yemen Observer, one of the two English newspapers in Yemen. I edited that newspaper for four months. It's a shitty newspaper that is more devoted to doing as little work as possible than to being a source of journalism. Anyway, the article is clearly designed to make Americans fear and hate Islam; she takes a handful of Arabic words that refer to Islamic subjects and defines them specifically in terms of terrorism. You could, of course, look at a dictionary or an objective website and get definitions for these terms including, but not exclusively, the subjects she applies them to. But it should be obvious to anyone here what she's trying to do and how she's doing it: she's saying "All Muslims are terrorists."Naturally her intended audience is the American conservatives who will buy her books, read her columns, or watch her TV shows. But my point is simply this: her article was published in Yemen because many, if not most, Yemenis believe that most Americans think that most or all of them are terrorists. They don't hate us. As I've pointed out ad-nauseum, I've still got my head attatched to my shoulders after nearly two years here. But there is a mutual suspicion and distrust, as well as hatred, on both of our parts that is based on a breath-taking level of ignorance. This woman who wrote this article knows what she's doing in order to make money and spread her political or religious ideology - she's deliberately trying to make her readers even more ignorant. And in the process, her hatred of Muslims is now known by more people here, thus confirming to them what they suspect and fear: that we hate them. This kind of thing happens all the time - anti-Muslim articles from America are searched for on the internet and used to demonstrate that the War on Terror is a war against Islam. And they never run out of sources for this theory. You all can decide for yourself the effects of our own media on the ignorance and hatred on both sides.

TheMojoPin

09-14-2006, 06:06 AM

Radical islam, I'm not so big on.Now BODACIOUS islam, that's pretty fuckin' tubular.

joeyballsack

09-14-2006, 02:48 PM

Some interesting reading if you have time, because its long. <a href="http://www.brucebawer.com/tolerating.htm">http://www.brucebawer.com/tolerating.htm</a>

CuzBum

09-14-2006, 02:53 PM

TheMojoPin wrote: Radical islam, I'm not so big on.Now BODACIOUS islam, that's pretty fuckin' tubular."Stop rippin' me off, hoo hoo."<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/cc/180px-Mike_06.jpg" border="0" />

WRESTLINGFAN

09-15-2006, 01:50 PM

CuzBum wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: Radical islam, I'm not so big on.Now BODACIOUS islam, that's pretty fuckin' tubular."Stop rippin' me off, hoo hoo."<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/cc/180px-Mike_06.jpg" border="0" />I thought we were at war with "Islamo-Fascism"

Doctor Z

09-15-2006, 02:10 PM

when did "the war on terror" become "the war against radical islam" ?
Becuase "terror" and "radical islam" are interchangeable?

booster11373

09-15-2006, 04:39 PM

Anyone bring up that it seems like Muslims are mad at the Pope over some comments he made.I try to be tolerant and have an open mind I really do, I more scared of RADICAL CHRISTIANS in this country then I am of Radical Muslims but stuff like this does bother me a bit.Im going to make a broad statement here which is most likely wrong but.....WHY DO MUSLIMS SEEM SO EASYLY LEAD AND QUICK TO ANGER ALL THE TIME IT DOESNT SEEM SO PEACEFUL TO ME WHEN THE GOVERMENT OF SOME COUNTRY HAS TO PUT TROOPS AROUND CHURCHS TO PROTECT THEM FROM MOBS<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5349578.stm" target="_self">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5349578.stm</a>

FUNKMAN

09-15-2006, 04:43 PM

when did "the war on terror" become "the war against radical islam" ?  i think it's a smart movethe radicals have always been trying to incorporate the rest of the muslim society to join against the US stating we are against all muslims... the Crusade i think they called usif we're gonna continue in this direction there needs to be fine lines drawnedit: we need to express much more how muslims practice their religion open and freely in our country...then we can go after our own corporate leaders and burn them...  they're the ones really fucking us all over   <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" />

This message was edited by FUNKMAN on 9-15-06 @ 8:45 PM

UnknownPD

09-16-2006, 03:51 PM

I don't know what you mean. They all seem perfectly rational to me.<img height="223" src="http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/Radical_Islam.jpg" width="379" border="0" />

Reephdweller

09-17-2006, 07:48 PM

<img src="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060917/capt.3db3ca7dfb7f45a5a0886dbb7d66fffd.aptopix_vati can_pope_muslims_ppc101.jpg" border="0" />WHAT DO THEY WANT FROM MY LIFE?????

FUNKMAN

09-17-2006, 08:04 PM

UnknownPD wrote: I don't know what you mean. They all seem perfectly rational to me.<img height="223" src="http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/Radical_Islam.jpg" width="379" border="0" />the guy in front looks like he's got snail antennae...edit: i just checked and the proper term is tenatcles

This message was edited by FUNKMAN on 9-18-06 @ 12:09 AM

Yerdaddy

09-18-2006, 04:38 AM

FUNKMAN wrote: UnknownPD wrote: I don't know what you mean. They all seem perfectly rational to me.<img height="223" src="http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/Radical_Islam.jpg" width="379" border="0" />the guy in front looks like he's got snail antennae...edit: i just checked and the proper term is tenatclesThis message was edited by FUNKMAN on 9-18-06 @ 12:09 AM THAT'S why I can't walk down the street without falling on my ass?!!! Salt thier ass and take thier gass!!!

A.J.

09-18-2006, 09:56 AM

I can't link it but I read an article today titled "Saudi Cleric Says Anyone Insulting the Prophet Should Die".  His argument was that any criticism of Muhammad is unforgivable because the Prophet was the "best of humans".Islam = religion of peace.

Furtherman

09-18-2006, 10:24 AM

UnknownPD wrote: I don't know what you mean. They all seem perfectly rational to me.<img height="223" src="http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/Radical_Islam.jpg" width="379" border="0" />THIS is the picture I mentioned in another thread I saw in the paper.That man is hilariously angry.

Dirtybird12

09-18-2006, 10:33 AM

Americans are just too lazy and satisfied to have that much passion or fire for anything...

UnknownPD

09-18-2006, 10:56 AM

CircusFreak wrote: Americans are just too lazy and satisfied to have that much passion or fire for anything...That's bullshit. Take away big macs and the country would erupt

Dirtybird12

09-18-2006, 11:11 AM

UnknownPD wrote: CircusFreak wrote: Americans are just too lazy and satisfied to have that much passion or fire for anything...That's bullshit. Take away big macs and the country would eruptgood point. I stand corrected and erect

narc

09-18-2006, 11:11 AM

It also really seems to me like Al-Qaeda and Iran have decided that the best thing for the world now would be to have a religious holy war between Christianity/West and Islam. There were a bunch of fantastic quotes today about killing Christians and destroying their religion today. 
"We tell the worshipper of the cross (the Pope) that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq,
Afghanistan,
Chechnya," said a Web statement by the Mujahideen Shura Council, an umbrella group led by Iraq's branch of al Qaeda. 

"We shall break the cross and spill the wine," said the statement, posted on Sunday on an Internet site often used by al Qaeda and other militant groups. 

Also, my favorite part of this is that the Ayatollah of Iran blamed George Bush for this. Now, I can understand people blaming George Bush for a lot of things. But I have no idea how he makes the connection between what the pope said and George Bush.

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soupcan

09-23-2006, 02:58 AM

i see where this is going... let's just put a tag on all the muslims and lock them up. At least we can feel safe untill our governments tells us what to fear/hate next...let history judge. 

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cougarjake13

09-23-2006, 06:43 AM

personally i'd recall all of our men overseas and once they are out have a bunch of planes going to the entire middle east, and fuck china and north korea as well, and drop as many bombs as needed to lay waste to the entire placeyeh it might not be plausible or humane but fuck them, they werent thinking humanely on 9-11 or any other terrorist acts commited toward us or other countriesand people say we cant do that b/c of the oil but we only get 10% of our oil from over there, so why do we care so much, i'm sure we can find someone else to get that 10% from, or they can start drilling offshore down here in fla

FUNKMAN

09-23-2006, 07:13 AM

the pope is on fiya...   or that's what alot of the knuckleheads wish he were

UnknownPD

09-23-2006, 08:37 AM

i see where this is going... let's just put a tag on all the muslims and lock them up. At least we can feel safe untill our governments tells us what to fear/hate next...let history judge.ummm...it's not our governments strapping bombs to there chest an blowing up innocents.Government is not telling us anything we can't see for ourselves. Whacky whacky people hanging the effigy of an old man because of what he said. religious leaders calling for his hanging. Before you get all indignant at governments take a look at the muslim house and wonder what the f is going on there