DON'T BOYCOTT CITGO!!!

[PapaBear]

Yes, I know. Chaves hurt George Bush's feelings by calling him the Devil. If people boycott Citgo, Venezuela will have no problem finding someone to sell oil to. The only people who will be hurt are the small local business owners who sell Citgo gas. Go ahead... put Mom & Pop businesses in jeopardy to spare Bush his feelings. Jeez...

[FUNKMAN]

use Citgo before you Go Go

[FezPaul]

<p><strong><font face="courier new,courier,monospace" size="2">I liked Ron's point that no one boycotted Saudi oil after 9/11.</font></strong></p><p><strong><font face="Courier New" size="2">So there is much less reason to boycott CITGO.</font></strong></p>

[johnniewalker]

So people would actually support oil businesses, if they hate Bush?&nbsp; This is a weird weird world.&nbsp; <br />

[PapaBear]

<strong>johnniewalker</strong> wrote:<br />So people would actually support oil businesses, if they hate Bush?&nbsp; This is a weird weird world.&nbsp; <br /><p>This has nothing to do with whether you like Bush or not. It's about stupid misdirected boycotts that hurt the wrong people.</p>

[spoon]

Hell, I'm using more Citgo bc of his comments and the fact that the company gave free heating oil to people in the Bronx and other areas of NYC.&nbsp; What did Shell/Exxon or Bush do?&nbsp; Well I at least know that Bush cut a ton of programs aimed at helping the poor if that counts.&nbsp; Bush believes religious charities should get more money to help the poor they'd like (much less money of course), rather than cut out the middle man.

[johnniewalker]

So one oil company has shown a little sign of care, and we care this much to make a political debate about it.&nbsp; Its a fucking oil company. How about we just go along our daily lives like normal.&nbsp; <br />

[narc]

Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br><p>
And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government.

[PapaBear]

<p>I don't use their products</p><p>Then they don't need to worry about you boycotting them. BTW... Citgo costs the same or less than all the other gas companies where I live. I usually buy gas where it's convenient. All gas is the same. I do, however like to buy at small, family owned businesses whenever I get the chance. A large number of these places sell Citgo.</p>

[spoon]

I agree with most of what you posted PB, but not all gas is the same.&nbsp; My buddy is an engineer who works for a ton of big clients and told me to never buy oil that was refined or from Russia at any point.&nbsp; He said it has a ton of impurities and they is even more corruption linked to it than even the Saudi/Middle East oil.&nbsp; He's a smart guy and not one for political bullshit.

[led37zep]

I checked with the CIA World Factbook and &quot;chemicals&quot; are one of the leading exports from Venezuela...so there you have it.&nbsp; Lets all stop buying chemicals...or bauxite...whatever the fuck that is.<br />

[suggums]

lets face it chavez is the man, id drink his oil if it didnt kill me<br />

[Greggie44]

Bauxite is the raw material for aluminum.

[Dirtybird12]

Greenwood Grocery Gas <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" />

[PapaBear]

<strong>CircusFreak</strong> wrote:<br />Greenwood Grocery Gas <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /> <p>Triple G What! <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by PapaBear on 9-29-06 @ 2:00 AM</span>

[Dirtybird12]

<strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>CircusFreak</strong> wrote:<br />Greenwood Grocery Gas <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" border="0" /> <p>Triple G What! <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" /></p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by PapaBear on 9-29-06 @ 2:00 AM</span> <p>I always figured you were a red apple kinda fella</p>

[FUNKMAN]

i hear Lukoil is Russian owned...

[spoon]

<p>Is it Funk?&nbsp; I had this gas/oil convo with him before Lukoil was all over Jersey.&nbsp; It seems like they're now all over in the span of 2 months. </p>

[narc]

Lukoil is Russian. The first one opened in Georgetown with great fanfare. Putin came out for it. <br><p>
I've never lived around a lot of any of these places particularly. Citgo or Lukoil.

[spoon]

More importantly, what do you think of the new Saber jerseys?

[narc]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br>More importantly, what do you think of the new Saber jerseys?<hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
Meh. There was another design circulating on the internet I liked a lot more that was a lot closer to the original that they apparently couldn't use because of some technicality. But I'm not going to be one of those guys that sits around and says: "I hate the logo. I'm done with that team." It just doesn't matter that much to me when it comes down to it. They're still the same goddamn team.

[spoon]

<p>1)&nbsp; Why change it again so soon?</p><p>2)&nbsp; Do you have pic of the alternate version you liked?</p>

[Sheeplovr]

<p>theres a boycott going on?</p><p>i only buy citgo </p><p>why?</p><p>cause i fell into the habbit and now its the only place i feel comfortable getting gas </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[A.J.]

<p>CITGO sign forever!</p><p><img height="208" src="http://www.redsoxconnection.com/images/citgo_animated.gif" width="200" border="0" /></p>

[SatCam]

And Ron's point is retarded

I wouldn't be surprised if you're struck down to hell within the next few days, heathen

[SinA]

<p>right.&nbsp; </p><p>what we should be doing is reducing our oil consumption across the board. </p><p>i recycle and all that biz, in addition to getting&nbsp;30~ mpg in my little car, so suck on that chavez</p>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>narc, your reasoning for not using Citgo is the best.&nbsp; i too find them is always be a cent or two more than the other gas stations around and the few times that i &quot;had&quot; to use them i notice that my truck doenst run as well.&nbsp; you second point is confusing to me.&nbsp; i may be wrong but didnt RUDY G. give the Saudis back there 9-11 charity money due to their behind the scenes ties to Al Quada?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<p>7/11 has decided to drop citgo gas as it supplier and will make it's own gas for sale</p><p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15030988/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15030988/</a></p><p>i mainly buy my gas from sams club, i'm not sure who they get their gas from, so i'm not actively boycotting citgo </p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>Saying bin Laden or Al-Qaeda has no ties to the Saudi government is a bold statement. A simple Google search should reveal speculation from legitimate sources. </p><p>I think Ron's point is valid, and you sir, owe Mr. B an apology.</p>

[A.J.]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>Saying bin Laden or Al-Qaeda has no ties to the Saudi government is a bold statement. A simple Google search should reveal speculation from legitimate sources. </p><p>I think Ron's point is valid, and you sir, owe Mr. B an apology.</p><p>Why would the Saudi government have anything to do with bin Ladin whose tenets include&nbsp;the overthrow of the ruling Al-Sa'ud family whom&nbsp;he considers to be apostates and corrupt?</p><p>There ARE some possible&nbsp;links to the UAE's royal&nbsp;family -- due mostly&nbsp;to the presence of an official UAE aircraft at one of bin Ladin's camps in 1999.</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>Saying bin Laden or Al-Qaeda has no ties to the Saudi government is a bold statement. A simple Google search should reveal speculation from legitimate sources. </p><p>I think Ron's point is valid, and you sir, owe Mr. B an apology.</p><p>Why would the Saudi government have anything to do with bin Ladin whose tenets include&nbsp;the overthrow of the ruling Al-Sa'ud family whom&nbsp;he considers to be apostates and corrupt?</p><p>There ARE some possible&nbsp;links to the UAE's royal&nbsp;family -- due mostly&nbsp;to the presence of an official UAE aircraft at one of bin Ladin's camps in 1999.</p><p>There has been speculation about Saudi money being filtered to Al-Qaeda for years. I'm not saying it's true or not, just saying it's not clear either way.</p>

[A.J.]

Right but that's most likely from people outside the government/royal family.

[phixion]

narc has it right dont buy citgo just cause its an inferior product. forget any political crap you want to staple to it. i myself buy british petroleum bp almost exclusively 1 because they have off shore oil rigs in trinidad and 2 because bp supreme makes my baby purr.

[narc]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>spoon</strong> wrote:<br><p>1) Why change it again so soon?</p><p>2) Do you have pic of the alternate version you liked?</p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
They went back to it because people are still attached to the old blue and gold, and that point had been raised by various people. I think you also make money if you change your jersey because then everyone feels like they have to buy the new one. <br><p>
Here's a small picture of the alternate I liked:<br><p>
<img src="http://www.buffalorising.com/home/archives/sabres%20jersey-thumb.jpg"

[narc]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br><strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>Saying bin Laden or Al-Qaeda has no ties to the Saudi government is a bold statement. A simple Google search should reveal speculation from legitimate sources. </p><p>I think Ron's point is valid, and you sir, owe Mr. B an apology.</p><p>Why would the Saudi government have anything to do with bin Ladin whose tenets include the overthrow of the ruling Al-Sa'ud family whom he considers to be apostates and corrupt?</p><p>There ARE some possible links to the UAE's royal family -- due mostly to the presence of an official UAE aircraft at one of bin Ladin's camps in 1999.</p><p>There has been speculation about Saudi money being filtered to Al-Qaeda for years. I'm not saying it's true or not, just saying it's not clear either way.</p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
I'm sure there are certainly some authoritative people in Saudi Arabia that are unofficially big fans of Osama bin Laden. But it's definitely not the royal family, and if it's anyone, it's probably not much and done very much on the sly, which is a whole different ballgame than open and active support. <br><p>
I don't know one way or another about Rudy G. Stu.

[Don Stugots]

<p>it was highly publized that Guiliani sent back a donation check for 9-11 victims to a saudi prince due to allegations of the family behind the scenes support of terrorists.&nbsp; i didnt make it up.&nbsp; this is one time that i am not talking out of ass or looking for womens dirty underwear to smell.&nbsp; </p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Actually Citgo itslef is hurting the &quot; little man &quot; under their own umbrella.</p><p>They've refused to make deliveries to 13,000 of their independently owned stations because in a simplistic way its not cost efficient to them.</p><p>So they take these people's money for franchise rights and no don't wanna allow them to make a profit.</p><p>It's one of the reason 7-11 Corp has stopped their affiliation with Citgo.</p><p>They'll be selling their own brand of gas.</p>

[Don Stugots]

i think already do.&nbsp; ever try the frankfurters?&nbsp;

[UnknownPD]

<font size="2">Chavez has proposed eliminating presidential term limits so he can become President for life. Sounds like a dictator to me. </font>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by UnknownPD on 9-29-06 @ 5:04 PM</span>

[riverofpiss]

What is the big deal here.&nbsp; Maybe Bush isn't the &quot;devil&quot;&nbsp;but as far as I'm concerned he could truthfully be called many worse names than &quot;the devil&quot;.&nbsp; What would happen if every country around the world that didn't agree with Bush suddenly boycotted the American market?&nbsp; Bush thinks that because somebody called him a name that &quot;his&quot; country should boycott? Get real.

[JimBeam]

<p>Maybe you shouldnt boycott because he said something specifically about Bush but because of the fact that he insulted the US in general regardless of who's the President.</p><p>With several choices for gas WHY go to them when you don't have to ?</p>

[BLZBUBBA]

<p>Ron's point was valid.&nbsp; Most all the hijackers on 9-11 were from Saudi Arabia.&nbsp; And at least some members of the Royal family or their wives helped finance the operation.&nbsp; </p><p>Chavez?&nbsp; He talks a lot of shit.&nbsp; So what?&nbsp; I find him amusing.&nbsp;A demogogue OBVIOUSLY...but funny as hell.&nbsp;</p><p>And I think it's time we drop the embargo on Cuba.&nbsp; What's past is past.&nbsp;&nbsp;Where's the&nbsp;threat with Cuba these days?&nbsp;</p>

[Fez4PrezN2008]

I don't use Citgo or anyone else's gas cause&nbsp;the FLUX CAPACITOR on my DELOREAN only needs bannan peels, coffee grounds, and half a diet coke.

[bobrobot]

<p><strong><font color="#000099">I'm buying from Citgo exclusively now, &amp; fully support President Chavez's candor! BU$H doesn't speak for me or represent me &amp; I don't think his interests are the interests of The U.S. population. So I see the statement as anti-BU$H not anti-U.S. In all honesty,&nbsp;if BU$H&nbsp;is the embodiment of the politics &amp;&nbsp; social philosophy of the U.S., then the revolution can't come soon enough!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">BP is neglegent&nbsp;toward employees &amp; poisoning the people of Wentworth, Durban, South Africa.</font></strong></p>

[Gvac]

<strong>bobogolem</strong> wrote:<br /><p><strong><font color="#000099">I'm buying from Citgo exclusively now, &amp; fully support President Chavez's candor! BU$H doesn't speak for me or represent me &amp; I don't think his interests are the interests of The U.S. population. So I see the statement as anti-BU$H not anti-U.S. In all honesty, if BU$H is the embodiment of the politics &amp; social philosophy of the U.S., then the revolution can't come soon enough!!! </font></strong></p><p><strong><font color="#000099">BP is neglegent toward employees &amp; poisoning the people of Wentworth, Durban, South Africa.</font></strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You don't even own a car you hippie!&nbsp; <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/unsure.gif" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And people who boycott Citgo stations owned and operated by Americans (like the one just around the corner from my house) are of the same mindset as people who only buy &quot;American&quot; cars.&nbsp; Wake up people - like it or not it's a Free Trade world with a global economy.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>If the local Mom and Pops lose business, they should change they're affiliation to another gas company. Like Exxon, Mobil, BP etc. </p><p>Its a shame Chavez chose such language because it makes him look like a foaming at the mouth (sorry Bobo) Leftist loose cannon, and not a civilized world leader. And the rest of his speech was actually worth listening to and debating. But all anyone cares about is the stupid &quot;devil&quot; reference. So he defeated his own purpose by using that term. He pleased the other two bit dictators in the audience who agree with him already, and persuaded no one else. <br /></p>

[Mike from Bklyn]

<p>
</p>Use Lukoil. They are Russian owned. I read something somewhere
that they are the up and comers to watch. Besides Russian Chicks are
hot.
<p>&nbsp;This months Wired magazine has a good article on E85.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p><br />

[Gvac]

<strong>Mike from Bklyn</strong> wrote:<br /><p>
</p>Use Lukoil. They are Russian owned.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I trust the Russians like I trust a cannibal giving me a blowjob.</p><p>Besides, have you seen who's living inside General Lukin's head? &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[The Blowhard]

<span class="bodytext">Large among the enduring American sentiments has been &quot;Don't Tread on Me,&quot; which approximately means &quot;Get Out of My Face&quot; or, more specifically, &quot;Who Ya Think Yer Talking To?&quot; and which stands as testimony to our deep-down national conviction that, while we disagree among ourselves, we're still family here. <p>Venezuela's Hugo Chavez has now discovered that we do not gladly suffer unpleasant houseguests, and his Citgo Petroleum is beginning to pay the price. Boycotts of Citgo products are springing up in the wake of Chavez's offensive performance at the United Nations. In Boston, there's a push to tear down the landmark Citgo sign at Kenmore Square. In Florida, legislators are demanding that Citgo lose a contract to sell gasoline on the Florida Turnpike. The governor of Maine reports that he'll refuse Citgo's heating-oil-for-the-poor handout this winter. And this week the 7-Eleven store chain announced it is parting company with Citgo and will henceforth buy gas for more than 2,000 filling stations from other suppliers. </p><p>The 7-Eleven heave-ho is not, in truth, solely a direct result of the Chavez episode: The chain's parent company, Southland Corp., is the outfit that sold Citgo to Venezuela in the first place, in 1986, and its 20-year contract with the Citgo people is expiring now. Still, tossing Citgo out on its ear at this moment is an inspiredly symbolic thing to do. As with Boston and the Florida Turnpike, the statement is clearly made: We are not to be trod on. Got that, Chavez? </p><p>Citgo was once upon a time Cities Service, a familiar and beloved brand all the length and breadth of the heartland through the first half of the 20th century, sponsor of one of radio's longest-running concert programs. Cities Service's founder, utilities mogul Henry Doherty, may have been something of a pirate, but he's also the man who led the drive to bring nighttime floodlighting to the Statue of Liberty, in 1916. And here we are today: His company, now a wholly owned subsidiary of Venezuela's state petroleum operation, is the emblem of a crazed foreign government that declares its hostility to the United States. </p><p>The hell with Citgo. Let the boycotts spread to every hamlet and valley. How very satisfyingly American. </p><p>Incidentally, Citgo does millions of dollars worth of business with the U.S. armed forces. At some Navy bases, Citgo is the only gasoline you can buy. Well, that's pretty disgraceful, isn't it? You Pentagon procurement guys planning to do something about this? - From today's NY Daily News, and I agree 100%.</p></span>

[FUNKMAN]

the best station to get gas is the one closest to your house or your location. i know people who drive miles to save a few cents a gallon but does that really make sense? i mean 'come on' people!

[Don Stugots]

<strong>Mike from Bklyn</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>Use Lukoil. They are Russian owned. I read something somewhere that they are the up and comers to watch. <strong><font size="2">Besides Russian Chicks are hot</font></strong>. <p>&nbsp;This months Wired magazine has a good article on E85.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><br /><p>tell me about it, i am marrying one in 12 hours.</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p> </p><strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<p> </p><p>I trust the Russians like I trust a cannibal giving me a blowjob.</p><p> </p><p>Great line. I'm stealing it.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>BTW-This might be a stupid question, but is &quot;Blowhard&quot; the artist formerly known as &quot;Heckler&quot;?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p> </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 9-30-06 @ 8:03 AM</span>

[Don Stugots]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />the best station to get gas is the one closest to your house or your location. i know people who drive miles to save a few cents a gallon but does that really make sense? i mean 'come on' people! <p>my&nbsp;mom does this.&nbsp; he like the service at on station in particular and it is 2 cents less.&nbsp; when i try to explain it to her on how she is more than likely wasting money she just doesnt get it.</p>

[Mike from Bklyn]

<p><span class="postbody">tell me about it, i am marrying one in 12 hours.</span></p><p>Good luck. &nbsp;</p>

[Yerdaddy]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>Saying bin Laden or Al-Qaeda has no ties to the Saudi government is a bold statement. A simple Google search should reveal speculation from legitimate sources. </p><p>I think Ron's point is valid, and you sir, owe Mr. B an apology.</p><p>Speculation?!?! Well, that settles it then!</p><p><a href="http://www.senate.gov/comm/judiciary/general/testimony.cfm?id=1669&wit_id=4790" target="_blank">Overview of Saudi role in the War on Turrr</a> from one of the most respected men the foreign policy and military affairs communities.</p>

[Yerdaddy]

By the way, is this boycott about anything that Chavez actually <strong>did</strong>, or is this just about a petty leftist saying stupid mean shit about Bush for political points with his own population? If it's just about what he said, is&nbsp;this any different than Muslims boycotting anything Danish because some jackass newspaper printed some cartoons insulting Islam?

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>Yerdaddy</strong> wrote:<br />By the way, is this boycott about anything that Chavez actually <strong>did</strong>, or is this just about a petty leftist saying stupid mean shit about Bush for political points with his own population? If it's just about what he said, is&nbsp;<strong>this any different than Muslims boycotting anything Danish</strong> because some jackass newspaper printed some cartoons insulting Islam? <p>danish are fattening and should be boycotted anyway...&nbsp; bran muffins are where it's at</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Yerdaddy</strong> wrote:<br />By the way, is this boycott about anything that Chavez actually <strong>did</strong>, or is this just about a petty leftist saying stupid mean shit about Bush for political points with his own population? If it's just about what he said, is this any different than Muslims boycotting anything Danish because some jackass newspaper printed some cartoons insulting Islam?<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>One teeny tiny difference. Dozens of people aren't dead from a riot, and no angry mob has burned any buildings to the ground. </p><p>Other than that, it's identical. &nbsp;</p>

[boeman]

Bah... I only buy BP because that's the only place I can get 92 octane near my house.

[empulse]

<p>This thread is confusing, we are debating Hockey Jerseys, South American Devil Hater Oil, and Oil from the russian mafia.</p><p>this is a no win.</p>

[A.J.]

<strong>Yerdaddy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br />Fuck Citgo. I don't use their products because I believe them to be overpriced and inferior. <br /><p>And Ron's point is retarded. Osama bin Laden has no affiliation with the Saudi government, whereas Chavez is a dictator directly affiliated with all the oil they export. It's like saying someone shouldn't buy American products after the Manson slayings just because he happened to be American, versus say, not buying North Korean products, which are directly tied to the government. </p><p>Saying bin Laden or Al-Qaeda has no ties to the Saudi government is a bold statement. A simple Google search should reveal speculation from legitimate sources. </p><p>I think Ron's point is valid, and you sir, owe Mr. B an apology.</p><p>Speculation?!?! Well, that settles it then!</p><p><a href="http://www.senate.gov/comm/judiciary/general/testimony.cfm?id=1669&wit_id=4790" target="_blank">Overview of Saudi role in the War on Turrr</a> from one of the most respected men the foreign policy and military affairs communities.</p><p>Thanks Daddy -- I read that testimony when I was in Saudi last year but I had forgotten about it.&nbsp; Pity that more of the idiot government officials who came to visit the Kingdom didn't read that.</p>

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Yerdaddy</strong> wrote:<br />By the way, is this boycott about anything that Chavez actually <strong>did</strong>, or is this just about a petty leftist saying stupid mean shit about Bush for political points with his own population? If it's just about what he said, is this any different than Muslims boycotting anything Danish because some jackass newspaper printed some cartoons insulting Islam? <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>One teeny tiny difference. Dozens of people aren't dead from a riot, and no angry mob has burned any buildings to the ground. </p><p>Other than that, it's identical. &nbsp;</p><p>He obviously wasn't comparing a Citgo boycott to the violence.&nbsp; He was comparing the basic&nbsp;idea of one boycott&nbsp;to another.&nbsp; Come on.</p>

[grandzu]

<p><span class="bodytext">The 7-Eleven heave-ho is
not, in truth, solely a direct result of the Chavez episode: The
chain's parent company, Southland Corp., is the outfit that sold Citgo
to Venezuela in the first place, in 1986, and its 20-year contract with
the Citgo people is expiring now. Still, tossing Citgo out on its ear
at this moment is an inspiredly symbolic thing to do.</span></p><p>Except that 7-Eleven decided to stop using Citgo months before Chavez spoke.&nbsp; But don't let facts make you get off your soapbox. 7-11 just wants cheaper gas and they knew that some less aware people would assume its for the Chavez thing and applaud 7-11.&nbsp; Win win.&nbsp;</p>

[El Mudo]

<p><span class="postbody">Maybe you shouldnt boycott because he said
something specifically about Bush but because of the fact that he
insulted the US in general regardless of who's the President.</span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That was pretty much my feelings on the situation...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I
feel he basically spat on this country...MY country, and I can't
forgive that at ALL.&nbsp; I'm not trying to be &quot;jingoistic&quot; or any
other term Academia wants to call it, but by insulting my country the
way he did, I just can't feel comfortable putting ANY money in his
pocket<br />
</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I'll be buying my gas from other sources, and hoping his own people will do him in soon enough&nbsp;</p>

[UnknownPD]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4801521.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4801521.stm</a></p>

[keithy_19]

Didn't Charlie Wrangle come out against his statements? I mean, Charlie Wrangle who would bash the president at the drop of a hat denounced Chavez. I gained some respect for him.

[phixion]

<p>im still with narc on this citog has shit gas and they over charge but they idea that u wont buy gas from someone because they insulted ur country...?</p><p>do you buy BP? well the british gov't has killed US soldiers.</p><p>and i cant think of anation that hasnt at one point or another insulted&nbsp;the US.&nbsp;thats a shit excuse, and call me crazy did he say the american people were devils or just the one? the one right so its an attack on an individual. if chavez stood up there and said&nbsp;americans are the worst scum this world can produce then id&nbsp;be with you. but he singled out the one, the stupid one. i insulted him too boycott cheese now&nbsp;</p>