Small plane crashes into building in NYC

[angrymissy]

<p>Breaking news on cnn but no details</p>

[CuzBum]

Might be a helicopter they said.

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash.ap/index.html" target="_self">CNN.</a>

[mikeyboy]

<p><strong>NEW YORK</strong> (AP) -- Police say an aircraft has crashed into a building on Manhattan's Upper East Side at 72nd Street and York Avenue. It is near Rockefeller Center. </p><p>72nd and York is near Rockefeller Center?&nbsp; That's news to me.</p>

[Wrecked]

UESMikey...is this anywhere near you?

[SinA]

<strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>NEW YORK</strong> (AP) -- Police say an aircraft has crashed into a building on Manhattan's Upper East Side at 72nd Street and York Avenue. It is near Rockefeller Center. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>72nd and York is near Rockefeller Center?&nbsp; That's news to me.</p><p>more of AP's lies.</p>

[joeyballsack]

<p>So how long will it be until the conspiracy theories start about it being a Bush plot to steal the elections ?</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Sheeplovr]

oh man <br />

[Earlshog]

<strong>joeyballsack</strong> wrote:<br /><p>So how long will it be until the conspiracy theories start about it being a Bush plot to steal the elections ?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>after he heard the news out of habbit... he spoke to some kids for 10 minutes then flew to Lousiana</p>

[mikeyboy]

<strong>Wrecked</strong> wrote:<br />UESMikey...is this anywhere near you? <p>Not too close, but close enough to walk to.&nbsp; </p>

[ihaveabadmonkey]

I could have swore i just saw our own Ronnie B. on the NBC NY coverage looking up smoking a cigar.<br />

[angrymissy]

<p>From cnn.com</p><p> &quot;I have no idea where (the plane) came from,&quot; said a spokesman for New York area airports.</p><p>Well isn't that great!</p><p></p><div>Fighter aircraft are being put in the air over several U.S. cities as a precautionary measure, NORAD tells CNN.</div><p></p>

[Earlshog]

the fbi confirmed it was <strong>not</strong> an act of terrorism..

[Justice4all]

<p>After 9/11, how in the FUCK do we let even a SMALL aircraft slip through and do this?</p><p>This is unbelieveable. I know it seems to be an accident right now, but what if it was another attempt. A small aircraft packed with explosives can do an amazing amount of damage. This is rediculous.</p><p>I hope very few people got hurt.&nbsp;I bet heads will roll from this little incident.</p>

[joeyballsack]

<p>What exactly would you propose be done ?</p><p>How much air traffic do you think there is over a major city like NYC ? Shutting down the airspace over it would be a major pain in the ass and not really feasable.</p><p>Kind of wierd its on the 11th. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[angrymissy]

Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp;

[reillyluck]

our lawyer just left because he lives in that building.&nbsp; He has his dog there, so he freaked out and left...hopefully the dog and everyone else that lives there isnt hurt.

[angrymissy]

I hope his dog (and anyone in the building)&nbsp;is ok.&nbsp;

[reillyluck]

yeah me too...i guess when i find out more i'll let you guys know.

[Se7en]

CONSPIRACY~!<br /><br />Controlled explosions will bring the building down!

[terry1979]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp; Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp; Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Because the spokesman for NY area airports said </p><p>From cnn.com</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;I have no idea where (the plane) came from,&quot; said a spokesman for New York area airports.</p><p>We should at least have some fucking idea what planes are doing over New York.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by angrymissy on 10-11-06 @ 4:05 PM</span>

[joeyballsack]

<p>Even if they did have radio contact with it, would good would that do ?</p><p>Short of having manned anti aircraft guns on every corner, there is no way to prevent this kind of thing from happening. </p>

[Justice4all]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp;<strong> Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?</strong>&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Uhhh..how about YES! I am quite certain after all of this, there are certain restrictions for airspace and no-fly zones. this has nothing to do with finger-pointing or anything like that. But if this plane WOULD be shot down before ti crashes into the building alot more lives would have been saved or injuries avoided due to the plane would have fallen into the Harlem River. It is pure logic at work here.</p><p>It is one thing if it was a news/transport helocopter, which are common in NYC airspace....planes (aside from the jetliners) are NOT. </p><p>If I saw a plane of that size anywhere NEAR Nyc I would think something was wrong right off the bat.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p>

[boobieman]

<p>Hello,</p><p>&nbsp;First I hope everyone as well as friends and
family are safe. I am watching the news on this and Channel 5(fox),
Channel 2(CBS) and Channel 9(WHATEVER) here in NY are the biggest bunch
of fucking ass holes. I hate them. The way they try to make it sound
worst then what it is.&nbsp; Channel 5 actually said that they are
steaming the news on their web site in case that your tv is not working
right!!!? THERE IS NO FUCKING ANTENNA ON THIS BUILDING AND THE FUCKING
BUILDING DID NOT COME DOWN. </p><p>&nbsp;Then I switch to channel 2
and they are talking with a eye witness and the anchor..(which I wish
he hang on to and jump into the ocean) asked what the person saw, the
eye witness tell them she belives it was helicopter&nbsp; that was
loosing comtrol. The anchor then says &quot;Are you sure it was just 1 plane
and not 2&quot; TRYING TO GET THE FEAR OUT AND MAKE IT MORE THEN WHAT IT IS.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>FUCKING NEWS SUCKS BALL.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Hope everyone is ok and everyone gets home safe.<br />
</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>SEE YA!!&nbsp;</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp; Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Because the spokesman for NY area airports said </p><p>From cnn.com</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;I have no idea where (the plane) came from,&quot; said a spokesman for New York area airports.</p><p>We should at least have some fucking idea what planes are doing over New York.</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by angrymissy on 10-11-06 @ 4:05 PM</span> <p>that doesn't mean that their radio was out just that we never tried to contact them.&nbsp; Look, it is a foggy day out.&nbsp; There are thousands of small crafts going over NYC everyday.&nbsp; It was an accident.&nbsp; Everyone in the post 9/11 world loves to panic and point fingers.&nbsp; Relax, and let the people who know what they are doing do there job.</p>

[King Imp]

<p>This just goes to show that after all the posturing and all the &quot;we're doing this, this, and this to make us safer&quot; this country still hasn't learned shit from 9/11. What happened to absolutely <strong>NO</strong> air traffic over NYC? What if this was some nutjob with a bomb onboard? No one in authority knew of this plane until it hit? That's just great. We really have make terrific strides 5 years later. </p>

[Earlshog]

<strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp;<strong> Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?</strong>&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Uhhh..how about YES! I am quite certain after all of this, there are certain restrictions for airspace and no-fly zones. this has nothing to do with finger-pointing or anything like that. But if this plane WOULD be shot down before ti crashes into the building alot more lives would have been saved or injuries avoided due to the plane would have fallen into the Harlem River. It is pure logic at work here.</p><p>It is one thing if it was a news/transport helocopter, which are common in NYC airspace....planes (aside from the jetliners) are NOT. </p><p>If I saw a plane of that size anywhere NEAR Nyc I would think something was wrong right off the bat.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>this sounds like a video game...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>in real life its just not practicle... </p>

[TheRealEddie]

<p>CNN just showed a photo taken from someone form Roosevelt Island. From there it was really close. Poor Fez <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/mellow.gif" />.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><p>After 9/11, how in the FUCK do we let even a SMALL aircraft slip through and do this?</p><p>This is unbelieveable. I know it seems to be an accident right now, but what if it was another attempt. A small aircraft packed with explosives can do an amazing amount of damage. This is rediculous.</p><p>I hope very few people got hurt.&nbsp;I bet heads will roll from this little incident.</p><p>Tom,</p><p>IMHO</p><p>Let's say a small plane leaves from teterboro which is very close to the river and decides to fly into manhattan which would take all of 10 minutes maybe?&nbsp; I don't think the military or any law enforcement agency can get something up that fast to take it down...</p>

[angrymissy]

Didn't they restrict airspace over Manhattan for quite some time after 9/11?&nbsp; I can't remember if it was just while all planes were grounded or after flights were allowed again...&nbsp;

[terry1979]

<strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp;<strong> Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?</strong>&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Uhhh..how about YES! I am quite certain after all of this, there are certain restrictions for airspace and no-fly zones. this has nothing to do with finger-pointing or anything like that. But if this plane WOULD be shot down before ti crashes into the building alot more lives would have been saved or injuries avoided due to the plane would have fallen into the Harlem River. It is pure logic at work here.</p><p>It is one thing if it was a news/transport helocopter, which are common in NYC airspace....planes (aside from the jetliners) are NOT. </p><p>If I saw a plane of that size anywhere NEAR Nyc I would think something was wrong right off the bat.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>Oh yeah smart guy?&nbsp; I work right in Jesey city on the water and I see helicopter and tour planes going between NYC and Jersey on the Hudson every 5 minutes, not much higher than me and I am on the 36th floor.&nbsp; If a pilot makes a sudden jerk to either side a few thousand feet and he is in a building with in a matter of a second.&nbsp; You can't just start shooting every plane out of the air that dips a little bit.&nbsp; And how the fuck do you know it would land in the 1/4 mile wide harlem river?&nbsp; You know it's trajectory and that it was exactly located over the river whenthey would have realized there was a problem?&nbsp; Or how about the debree from the missile that was blowing it up or ammo that missed if they were shooting it down?</p><p>That is the most assinign, presumptuous logic I have ever heard, and I propose you don't have the first clue as to what you are talking about.&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p>

[Dudeman]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><strong>NEW YORK</strong> (AP) -- Police say an aircraft has crashed into a building on Manhattan's Upper East Side at 72nd Street and York Avenue. It is near Rockefeller Center. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>72nd and York is near Rockefeller Center? That's news to me.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>they probably meant rockefeller university (www.rockefeller.edu) on 66th and york ave. stupid AP.&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<p>are we sure it's a plane. i just saw another thread and it sounds like somebody got their <strong>place</strong> crashed... damn party animals!</p><p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/tongue.gif" border="0" /></p><p>just kiddin ya Joey</p>

[reillyluck]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp;<strong> Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?</strong>&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Uhhh..how about YES! I am quite certain after all of this, there are certain restrictions for airspace and no-fly zones. this has nothing to do with finger-pointing or anything like that. But if this plane WOULD be shot down before ti crashes into the building alot more lives would have been saved or injuries avoided due to the plane would have fallen into the Harlem River. It is pure logic at work here.</p><p>It is one thing if it was a news/transport helocopter, which are common in NYC airspace....planes (aside from the jetliners) are NOT. </p><p>If I saw a plane of that size anywhere NEAR Nyc I would think something was wrong right off the bat.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>Oh yeah smart guy?&nbsp; I work right in Jesey city on the water and I see helicopter and tour planes going between NYC and Jersey on the Hudson every 5 minutes, not much higher than me and I am on the 36th floor.&nbsp; If a pilot makes a sudden jerk to either side a few thousand feet and he is in a building with in a matter of a second.&nbsp; You can't just start shooting every plane out of the air that dips a little bit.&nbsp; And how the fuck do you know it would land in the 1/4 mile wide harlem river?&nbsp; You know it's trajectory and that it was exactly located over the river whenthey would have realized there was a problem?&nbsp; Or how about the debree from the missile that was blowing it up or ammo that missed if they were shooting it down?</p><p>That is the most assinign, presumptuous logic I have ever heard, and I propose you don't have the first clue as to what you are talking about.&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>I like yogurrrt!...j/k</p><p>all kidding aside, things happen, mistakes happen. Lets wait for the 11:00 news to find out what exactly happen before everyone starts jumping to conclusions and calls Jihad!</p>

[terry1979]

<strong>reillyluck</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp;<strong> Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?</strong>&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Uhhh..how about YES! I am quite certain after all of this, there are certain restrictions for airspace and no-fly zones. this has nothing to do with finger-pointing or anything like that. But if this plane WOULD be shot down before ti crashes into the building alot more lives would have been saved or injuries avoided due to the plane would have fallen into the Harlem River. It is pure logic at work here.</p><p>It is one thing if it was a news/transport helocopter, which are common in NYC airspace....planes (aside from the jetliners) are NOT. </p><p>If I saw a plane of that size anywhere NEAR Nyc I would think something was wrong right off the bat.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>Oh yeah smart guy?&nbsp; I work right in Jesey city on the water and I see helicopter and tour planes going between NYC and Jersey on the Hudson every 5 minutes, not much higher than me and I am on the 36th floor.&nbsp; If a pilot makes a sudden jerk to either side a few thousand feet and he is in a building with in a matter of a second.&nbsp; You can't just start shooting every plane out of the air that dips a little bit.&nbsp; And how the fuck do you know it would land in the 1/4 mile wide harlem river?&nbsp; You know it's trajectory and that it was exactly located over the river whenthey would have realized there was a problem?&nbsp; Or how about the debree from the missile that was blowing it up or ammo that missed if they were shooting it down?</p><p>That is the most assinign, presumptuous logic I have ever heard, and I propose you don't have the first clue as to what you are talking about.&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>I like yogurrrt!...j/k</p><p>all kidding aside, things happen, mistakes happen. Lets wait for the 11:00 news to find out what exactly happen before everyone starts jumping to conclusions and calls Jihad!</p><p>exactly, that was my initial point before the conspiracy theorists started spinning their yarn....</p>

[FUNKMAN]

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[Marc with a c]

cbs just said the plane belonged to cory lidle.

[Earlshog]

<p>thats horrible... unreal... </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Earlshog on 10-11-06 @ 4:59 PM</span>

[Marc with a c]

cory lidle was on the plane.

[TheVHD]

<strong>Marc with a c</strong> wrote:<br />cbs just said the plane belonged to cory lidle. <p><font size="2">They just confirmed that Cory was on the plane... and is gone.</font></p>

[Marc with a c]

<p>what the fuck happened?</p><p>that is horrible.</p>

[CuzBum]

<strong>TheVHD</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Marc with a c</strong> wrote:<br />cbs just said the plane belonged to cory lidle. <p><font size="2">They just confirmed that Cory was on the plane... and is gone.</font></p><p>Mike and The Maddog said&nbsp;ESPN news confirmed it. They also said Cory was a good pilot.</p>

[Fezticle98]

That's crazy. Why do so many famous people die in plane crashes?

[mdr55]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TheVHD</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Marc with a c</strong> wrote:<br />cbs just said the plane belonged to cory lidle. <p><font size="2">They just confirmed that Cory was on the plane... and is gone.</font></p><p>Mike and The Maddog said ESPN news confirmed it. They also said Cory was a good pilot.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They also were ragging on him the other day after Cory called in to defend himself after being misquoted.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[TheVHD]

<strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>TheVHD</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Marc with a c</strong> wrote:<br />cbs just said the plane belonged to cory lidle. <p><font size="2">They just confirmed that Cory was on the plane... and is gone.</font></p><p>Mike and The Maddog said&nbsp;ESPN news confirmed it. They also said Cory was a good pilot.</p><p><font size="2">He was just on Mike and the Mad dog the other day to defend himself for what was in the paper... this is unsettling&nbsp;</font></p>

[mdr55]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>fezticle98</strong> wrote:<br />That's crazy. Why do so many famous people die in plane crashes?<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Cuz they can afford to?&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[angrymissy]

wow, that is just bizarre

[CuzBum]

NBC reporting they found Cory Lidle's passport on the street.

[stickyfingers]

Yanks P Corey Lidle....wow.

[Earlshog]

Mike and the Dog are saying they should canel the met game tonight...

[joeyballsack]

<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860</a></p><p>Didnt Thurmon Munson die in a similar accident ?</p>

[Fezticle98]

<strong>Earlshog</strong> wrote:<br />Mike and the Dog are saying they should canel the met game tonight... <p>That's ridiculous.</p><p>Imagine my surprise when ESPN broke into the Jim Rome show to announce the plane crash. For a brief second I questioned why ESPN was reporting this until they announced it was Lidle.</p>

[sr71blackbird]

<a href="http://www.newsday.com/am-plane1012,0,225622.story?coll=ny-baseball-headlines&track=mostemailedlink" target="_blank">Story</a>

[Doctor Z]

I feel absolutely horrible... I am speechless.

[CuzBum]

<strong>Earlshog</strong> wrote:<br />Mike and the Dog are saying they should canel the met game tonight... <p>I think i agree with them. The event occured in the same city the game is to be played.</p>

[Dudeman]

<strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Earlshog</strong> wrote:<br />Mike and the Dog are saying they should canel the met game tonight... <p>I think i agree with them. The event occured in the same city the game is to be played.</p>considering it is pouring rain, it might be either way<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[mdr55]

<p>Why? A mets win will heal the city. The city needs this.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Cory Lidle, best Yankee pitcher ever.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>(At least he'll be a saint for a few days).&nbsp;</p>

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>joeyballsack</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860</a></p><p>Didnt Thurmon Munson die in a similar accident ?</p><p>and Rocky Marciano &quot; god rest his soul &quot;...</p>

[CuzBum]

<strong>This is my opinion alone</strong>, but perhaps he was attempting to do a flyby over the stadium before he headed off to his destination.

[joeyballsack]

<p>From an article last September...spooky. </p><p></p><p><strong>Fly guy</strong></p><p>The Phillies weren't enamored of pitcher Cory Lidle's hobby of flying a four-seat airplane.</p><div /><p>But now that Lidle is with the Yankees, it's an especially sensitive topic.</p><div /><p>In 1979, Yankees catcher Thurman Munson died when a plane he was piloting crashed near his home in Canton, Ohio. Lidle earned his pilot's license last offseason, and has insisted his plane is safe.</p><div /><p>&quot;The whole plane has a parachute on it,&quot; he told The New York Times. &quot;Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land.</p><div /><p>&quot;But, if you're up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly.&quot;</p><p></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060910/SPORTS01/609100378/1025/SPORTS05&theme">http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060910/SPORTS01/609100378/1025/SPORTS05&amp;theme</a>=</p>

[Justice4all]

<strong>joeyballsack</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860</a></p><p>Didnt Thurmon Munson die in a similar accident ?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>yes...but he died in the middle of the season. August if I am not mistaken.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>If he really was on the plane this would absolutley suck. </p><p>Pray for his family (and the families for those who lived in that apartment)</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Justice4all on 10-11-06 @ 5:14 PM</span>

[sr71blackbird]

Terry, whats with&nbsp;the hate, man?&nbsp;&nbsp; <img height="15" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/images/topicicons/thumbsdown.gif" width="15" border="0" />&nbsp;<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbdown.gif" border="0" />

[JimBeam]

<p>Why would they cancel the game ?</p><p>Because a MLB pitcher died ?</p><p>What about the guy who just got or is about to get carjacked somewehere in the city ?</p><p>Shouldnt we stop it for him as well ?</p>

[mdr55]

Cuz he was a Yankee. And the Yankees rule NY.<br />

[Justice4all]

<strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>reillyluck</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>terry1979</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>angrymissy</strong> wrote:<br />Yeah, how the fuck is a plane flying low over NYC with no radio contact?&nbsp; I know it seems to be a small plane, but WTF??&nbsp; I thought airspace was restricted.&nbsp; <p>how the hell do you know there was no radio contact?&nbsp; It's a small plane, it could have been a tour guide plane or something.&nbsp; They can fly pretty low.&nbsp; What do you people propose the gov't does?&nbsp;<strong> Have missiles trained on every aircraft flying over new York ready to shoot them out of the sky if they suddenlt lose altitude?</strong>&nbsp; This whole thing most likely happened in a matter of seconds and some innocent people are dead, both in the plane and the apartment I'm sure.&nbsp; Sorry if this disrupted all of your safety blankets....now let's go run and point fingers because we realize we are vulnerable and we don't like it.&nbsp; Grow up.</p><p>Uhhh..how about YES! I am quite certain after all of this, there are certain restrictions for airspace and no-fly zones. this has nothing to do with finger-pointing or anything like that. But if this plane WOULD be shot down before ti crashes into the building alot more lives would have been saved or injuries avoided due to the plane would have fallen into the Harlem River. It is pure logic at work here.</p><p>It is one thing if it was a news/transport helocopter, which are common in NYC airspace....planes (aside from the jetliners) are NOT. </p><p>If I saw a plane of that size anywhere NEAR Nyc I would think something was wrong right off the bat.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>Oh yeah smart guy?&nbsp; I work right in Jesey city on the water and I see helicopter and tour planes going between NYC and Jersey on the Hudson every 5 minutes, not much higher than me and I am on the 36th floor.&nbsp; If a pilot makes a sudden jerk to either side a few thousand feet and he is in a building with in a matter of a second.&nbsp; You can't just start shooting every plane out of the air that dips a little bit.&nbsp; And how the fuck do you know it would land in the 1/4 mile wide harlem river?&nbsp; You know it's trajectory and that it was exactly located over the river whenthey would have realized there was a problem?&nbsp; Or how about the debree from the missile that was blowing it up or ammo that missed if they were shooting it down?</p><p>That is the most assinign, presumptuous logic I have ever heard, and I propose you don't have the first clue as to what you are talking about.&nbsp;</p><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>I like yogurrrt!...j/k</p><p>all kidding aside, things happen, mistakes happen. Lets wait for the 11:00 news to find out what exactly happen before everyone starts jumping to conclusions and calls Jihad!</p><p>exactly, that was my initial point before the conspiracy theorists started spinning their yarn....</p><p>*sigh* Look no one was disputing that it was an accident, so there was NO conspiracy being brought up. What we WERE discussing was that, after everything that happened 5 years ago, something like this could happen again, accident or no.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&quot;Are we clear?&quot;</p><p><img src="http://www.worldinprogress.org/wip/images/few_good_men.jpg" border="0" /></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Justice4all on 10-11-06 @ 5:21 PM</span>

[CuzBum]

<strong>mdr55</strong> wrote:<br />Cuz he was a Yankee. And the Yankees rule NY.<br /><p>Do we really want this to turn into a Yankee hate thread?</p>

[mdr55]

He was also in the Mets farm system. <br />

[TjM]

Jesus this is horrible. My thoughts go out to his family<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/ohmy.gif" border="0" />

[UnknownPD]

<strong>CuzBum</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Earlshog</strong> wrote:<br />Mike and the Dog are saying they should canel the met game tonight... <p>I think i agree with them. The event occured in the same city the game is to be played.</p><p><font size="2">Has masculinity completely left the country. A real man would do a minute of silence and move on. </font></p>

[TjM]

<strong>fezticle98</strong> wrote:<br />That's crazy. Why do so many famous people die in plane crashes? <p>Honestly because the crafts are smaller&nbsp;&nbsp;and they don't really have the experience an everyday pilot has</p>

[whitefolks]

<p>If I had to listen to Joe Torre bitch for a whole year about how we got swept by the Tigers, I would have taken out a hi-rise in Manhattan also.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Z]

How can anyone possibly bring yankee-related anything into this. Cory Lidle was a 34 year-old man with a wife and child. Be human, just for a minute.

[BLZBUBBA]

<p>Cancel the Mets game?&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; They don't even cancel games when a commissioner dies.&nbsp;The guy made a lot of money pitching.&nbsp; He bought&nbsp; a plane.&nbsp; He crashed.&nbsp; He's dead.&nbsp; Get over it.&nbsp; I won't say anything about his ability to fly&nbsp;until the investigation is completed but I&nbsp;wouldn't be crying over someone who drilled his plane into my&nbsp;apartment...if he screwed up.</p><p>Let the FAA do their&nbsp;job and let's PLAY BALL!&nbsp;</p><p>But this does mean the Yankees will need even MORE pitching next year.</p>

[sr71blackbird]

Imagine if we blew a Yankee out of the sky?

[mdr55]

Wow. You gave it 3 minutes.<img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/clap.gif" /><br />

[HBox]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE.<br />

[CuzBum]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><font color="#000080"><font size="2">WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE.</font></font><br /><p>They're being funny, look how funny they are, I can't stop laughing they're so funny . . .</p>

[mdr55]

<p>They had this lady (a witness and lived in the building) on on
channel 7 (she was kinda cute and she had her dog with her) but did she
have to go into about the alleged slow response time of the Emergency
sevices and the Fire dept. Fuck her that ungrateful cuntbag.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And it seemed like the person interviewing her wanted to pick her up or something.&nbsp;</p>

[sr71blackbird]

<img height="72" src="http://www.shangri.com/images/barbarino.jpg" width="70" border="0" /><em>...what..?</em>

[Markuspea]

<h1>Yankees pitcher dies as plane hits NYC building</h1><h2>Two dead; no evidence of terrorism, officials say</h2><p>&nbsp;</p><p class="textBodyBlack">NEW YORK - A small plane with New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle aboard crashed into a 50-story condominium tower Wednesday on Manhattan&rsquo;s Upper East Side, killing two people and raining flaming debris on sidewalks, authorities said. NBC News confirmed Lidle was one of the two dead.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">A law enforcement official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Lidle was on the plane. And Federal Aviation Administration records showed the single-engine plane was registered to the athlete, who just days ago &mdash; after the Yankees&rsquo; humiliating elimination from the playoffs &mdash; told reporters that he was getting his pilot&rsquo;s license. </p><p class="textBodyBlack">Lidle's passport was reportedly found on the street below the crash site.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">Earlier reports had cited four bodies found; the city&rsquo;s medical examiner&rsquo;s office later confirmed only two people had died. </p><p class="textBodyBlack">The FBI and the Homeland Security Department said there was no evidence it was a terrorist attack. &ldquo;The initial indication is that there is a terrible accident,&rdquo; Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said. Nevertheless, fighter jets were sent aloft over U.S. cities as a precaution, the Pentagon said.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">The twin-engine plane came through a hazy, cloudy sky and hit the 20th floor of The Belaire &mdash; a red-brick tower overlooking the East River, about five miles from the World Trade Center &mdash; with a loud bang, touching off a raging fire that cast a pillar of black smoke over the city and sent flames shooting from four windows on two adjoining floors.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">Firefighters shot streams of water at the flames from the floors below and put the blaze out in less than an hour.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">Large crowds gathered in the street in the largely wealthy New York neighborhood, with many people in tears and some trying to reach loved ones by cell phone.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">&ldquo;I was worried the building would explode, so I got out of there fast,&rdquo; said Lori Claymont, who fled an adjoining building in sweatpants.</p><p class="textBodyBlack"><strong><strong>Bodies found on ground, in apartment</strong></strong><br />Police initially said two people were killed. WNBC reported two bodies found on the ground, one of which was strapped to an aircraft chair. Two bodies were also found in an apartment in the building, the TV station said.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">Young May Cha, a 23-year-old Cornell University medical student, said she was walking back from the grocery store down 72nd Street when she saw an object out of the corner of her eye.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">&ldquo;I just saw something come across the sky and crash into that building,&rdquo; she said. Cha said there appeared to be smoke coming from behind the aircraft, and &ldquo;it looked like it was flying erratically for the short time that I saw it.&rdquo;</p><p class="textBodyBlack">&ldquo;The explosion was very small. I was not threatened for my life,&rdquo; she added.</p><p class="textBodyBlack">Richard Drutman, a professional photographer who lives on the 11th floor, said he was talking on the telephone when he felt the building shake.</p>

[torker]

<strong>mdr55</strong> wrote:<br /><p>They had this lady (a witness and lived in the building) on on channel 7 (she was kinda cute and she had her dog with her) but did she have to go into about the alleged slow response time of the Emergency sevices and the Fire dept. Fuck her that ungrateful cuntbag.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And it seemed like the person interviewing her wanted to pick her up or something.&nbsp;</p><p>My wife point out said cuntbag to me earlier.&nbsp; She was on every channel.</p>

[Dirtybird12]

<p>Not a big fan or follower of baseball - so was this guy a major player?&nbsp; I found an article of some dude from the Phillies going off on the guy: </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>There's been a war of words between an ex-Phillie and several members of the Fightin' Phils for the past few days. After he left, Lidle said, &quot;On the days I'm pitching, it's almost a coin flip as to know if the guys behind me are going to be there to play 100 percent,&quot; regarding his time with the Phillies. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Well, ho ho, some current members of the Phillies didn't like it, including Arthur Rhodes, who called Lidle a scab -- he was a replacement player in '94, which is why he's not in the players' union or in video games (except as &quot;Felix Berger&quot;) -- <a href="http://phillyville.blogspot.com/2006/08/rhodes-fires-back-at-lidle.html"><font color="#006699">and also revealed his sweet tooth</font></a>:</p>&quot;The only thing Cory Lidle wants to do is fly around in his airplane and gamble.... He doesn't have a work ethic. After every start, he didn't run or lift weights. He would sit in the clubhouse and eat ice cream.&quot;<p>Lidle realized that, well, gee, I sound like an asshole, and went back on his comments. He said he meant the team was distracted because of all the trade rumors and it was hard to focus. Okay, sure, Cory. But, whatever, he did the right thing and apologized (kind of) and changed his story. He didn't want to continue to be an asshole (unlike a certain cheesesteak seller who shall remain nameless).</p><p>But Arthur Rhodes <a href="http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/15177709.htm"><font color="#006699">wasn't done</font></a>, firing this salvo:</p>Rhodes amplified those sentiments last night. &quot;If you look at it, he only pitched two good games,&quot; he said. &quot;Before that, he wasn't pitching too good.&quot;

[FUNKMAN]

<strong>torker</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>mdr55</strong> wrote:<br /><p>They had this lady (a witness and lived in the building) on on channel 7 (she was kinda cute and she had her dog with her) but did she have to go into about the alleged slow response time of the Emergency sevices and the Fire dept. Fuck her that ungrateful cuntbag.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>And it seemed like the person interviewing her wanted to pick her up or something.&nbsp;</p><p>My wife point out said cuntbag to me earlier.&nbsp; She was on every channel.</p><p>i saw that lady being interviewed and what a stuttering prick she was</p>

[narc]

<p>Wow, according to Wikipedia, he was a direct descendant of Robert Fulton, the inventor of the steamboat. Maybe if he had been traveling by one, this wouldn't have happened. </p><p>They're pulling me into it. <img border="0" src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/nono.gif" />&nbsp;</p>

[whitefolks]

<p>So he was a shitty scab pitcher and an even shittier pilot.</p><p>&nbsp;I feel more sorry for the building than some rich fuck who doesn't want to fly a domestic airliner.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[mdr55]

<p>If you knew him personally, I bet you wouldn't say that.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But I guess that's the point, isn't it.&nbsp;</p>

[keithy_19]

<p>So he was a shitty scab pitcher and an even shittier pilot.</p><p>&nbsp;I feel more sorry for the building than some rich fuck who doesn't want to fly a domestic airliner.</p><p>Wow. That was ignorant. No compassion for his family or anything, huh? </p>

[Chigworthy]

I bet Ron went over to check it out and lit his cigar with a piece of burning wreckage as he directed the emergency response.&nbsp; What a hero.

[JimBeam]

<p>Whats with all the Holier Than Thou business</p><p>At some point every topic in every thread is some way made into a joke and now we should be so sensetive because this guy died.</p><p>Lets have a moratorium on any jokes and or comments on anything that deals with tragedy.</p><p>You know what I would feel different about it if I knew him but I didnt so I'm not gonna lose any sleep tonight.</p><p>Hopefully his family can go on but he's just 1 of many people in the US, not to mention the world,&nbsp;who wont wake up tomorrow.</p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>Here's the thing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They are saying the flight instructor and a student died - and the student only had 75 hours.&nbsp; M&amp;MD are implying that the student was Lidle - what if the instructor was Lidle?&nbsp; From all accounts, he's been flying for at least a year, if not more. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[torker]

<p>SHOCK POSTING!!!</p><p><img height="110" src="http://www.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/4/1/3/small/314778.jpg" width="87" border="0" /></p><p>to be honest, i've got a really bad joke, but...i'll pass&nbsp;</p>

[JimBeam]

<p>Tenbat I read in one of the other articles that Lidle had gotten his license last year.</p><p>But how could you be an instructor w/ only a years worht of flying</p>

[Jujubees2]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Here's the thing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They are saying the flight instructor and a student died - and the student only had 75 hours.&nbsp; M&amp;MD are implying that the student was Lidle - what if the instructor was Lidle?&nbsp; From all accounts, he's been flying for at least a year, if not more. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Wouldn't be surprised as that's what a lot of pilots do to build up flying time.&nbsp; My brother-in-law is a pilot and as soon as he got his license he became an instructor so that he could accumulate flying hours on someone else's dime.</span></font>

[reeshy]

Man....I was at work when I heard the news on WINS in my office.....my heart went right up to my throat.....I had visions of 9/11 all over again....what a sick feeling that was!!!!!<br />

[mikeyboy]

<strong>Jujubees2</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Here's the thing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They are saying the flight instructor and a student died - and the student only had 75 hours.&nbsp; M&amp;MD are implying that the student was Lidle - what if the instructor was Lidle?&nbsp; From all accounts, he's been flying for at least a year, if not more. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Wouldn't be surprised as that's what a lot of pilots do to build up flying time.&nbsp; My brother-in-law is a pilot and as soon as he got his license he became an instructor so that he could accumulate flying hours on someone else's dime.</span></font> <p>Yeah, that's what my brother did as well, so it is possible.</p>

[FUNKMAN]

sidenote: not sure if anyone saw the raging fire coming what looked like from 4 apartments &quot;on the news&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; If the fire got contained to just them apartments by how the building was constructed due to firecodes then it did one helluva job

[JimBeam]

<p>Thats crazy if you can be an instructor with a year or less flying experience.</p><p>I'm taking my real estate licensing and they're making me sit through 45 hours of blah blah blah when I can easily read the book and pass the test.</p><p>Seems a little out of balance.</p>

[Doctor Z]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>whitefolks</strong> wrote:<br><p>So he was a shitty scab pitcher and an even shittier pilot.</p><p>ÿI feel more sorry for the building than some rich fuck who doesn't want to fly a domestic airliner.</p><p>ÿ</p><p>ÿ</p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>Either no one has ever loved you, or you've never experienced death... or both. Either way, you are deeply detached from reality.

[Hottub]

<strong>mikeyboy</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Jujubees2</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Here's the thing.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They are saying the flight instructor and a student died - and the student only had 75 hours.&nbsp; M&amp;MD are implying that the student was Lidle - what if the instructor was Lidle?&nbsp; From all accounts, he's been flying for at least a year, if not more. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: verdana">Wouldn't be surprised as that's what a lot of pilots do to build up flying time.&nbsp; My brother-in-law is a pilot and as soon as he got his license he became an instructor so that he could accumulate flying hours on someone else's dime.</span></font> <p>Yeah, that's what my brother did as well, so it is possible.</p><p>Those who can't,</p>

[Tall_James]

<strong>whitefolks</strong> wrote:<br /><p>If I had to listen to Joe Torre bitch for a whole year about how we got swept by the Tigers, I would have taken out a hi-rise in Manhattan also.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You're an idiot.&nbsp; People died here.&nbsp; </p>

[Se7en]

<strong>joeyballsack</strong> wrote:<br /><p>So how long will it be until the conspiracy theories start about it being a Bush plot to steal the elections ?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Go read DemocraticUnderground.com.&nbsp; You will find some there.</p><p>After 9/11, how in the FUCK do we let even a SMALL aircraft slip through and do this?</p><p>I've been told that NYC has tried to get aircraft to be either seriously restricted or outright banned from flying over the city, but for some reason the courts keep striking NYC authorities' efforts down, claiming they're unconstitutional.&nbsp; I'm not sure what their exact legal basis for ruling that way is.&nbsp; But I'm sure it's shit.</p>

[whitefolks]

<p>Stop with the fake moral outrage bullshit.</p><p>&nbsp;You, me, none of us knew the guy, when JFK jr took a header into the ocean the jokes were flying now you all have this fucking morality, so a man died, millions die every day, if this man hit a building in portland oregon there would be a diffrent vibe to this thread.</p><p>&nbsp;So stop with your postering and holier than thou attitude.</p><p>&nbsp;And MSNBC is reporting that he was actually aiming for the river, but was &quot;just a bit outside&quot;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br />&nbsp;</p>

[Rutger__Hauer]

<p>The BBC is reporting a possible link between Osama Bin Laden and Corey el Lidle.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>see yah</p>

[mendyweiss]

<a href="http://jgrahamtwo.tripod.com/peninsulaprobaseballhalloffame/id34.html">http://jgrahamtwo.tripod.com/peninsulaprobaseballhalloffame/id34.html</a>

[keithy_19]

<p>You, me, none of us knew the guy, when JFK jr took a header into the ocean the jokes were flying now you all have this fucking morality, so a man died, millions die every day, if this man hit a building in portland oregon there would be a diffrent vibe to this thread.</p><p>You're right. I didnt know the guy. I don't know a lot of people who die everyday. The fatc is though, that people dying while they are in the prime of their life is sad. Hell, people dying is sad. &nbsp;He's leaving behind a wife and a kid for Christ's sake. </p>

[mdr55]

RIP Lidle. We hardly knew ya.<br />



<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by mdr55 on 10-11-06 @ 7:55 PM</span>

[Doctor Z]

<hr color="cococo" align="left"></font><strong>whitefolks</strong> wrote:<br><p>Stop with the fake moral outrage bullshit.</p><p>ÿYou, me, none of us knew the guy, when JFK jr took a header into the ocean the jokes were flying now you all have this fucking morality, so a man died, millions die every day, if this man hit a building in portland oregon there would be a diffrent vibe to this thread.</p><p>ÿSo stop with your postering and holier than thou attitude.</p><p>ÿAnd MSNBC is reporting that he was actually aiming for the river, but was "just a bit outside"</p><br />ÿ</p><hr color="cococo" align="left"><p></p>
Wow! Lots of people die every day?! What WISDOM! Please share more!
<p>You're a shock poster and a hack. I'm sorry your parents considered you an "accident" your whole life, but your bitterness doesn't impress anyone. Go away.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor_Z on 10-11-06 @ 8:26 PM</span>

[whitefolks]

<strong /><strong /><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span class="post_edited">what are you some disgruntled yankee fan, the dude took out the 20th floor of some midtown building, thats fucking funny, and I don't give a shit what you think. &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br /></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Doctor Z]

If 1 guy dying in a plane crash is funny, then 9/11 must've had 3,000x the funny!!! EL OH EL!!1!!1 Everyone should have a sense of humor as brilliant and refined as yours.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor_Z on 10-11-06 @ 8:40 PM</span>

[whitefolks]

<p>oh so thats it 9/11, I knew it was something that sent you over the edge, so anytime there is a plane crash do you run around screaming &quot;ohh 9/11 ohh 9/11, its just like 9/11&quot;<br /></p><p> My money was on you being a sour pussed yankee fan and im supprised you didn't mention Thurmon Munson either, another great yankee that didnt know how to fly a plane.<br /> </p><p>Anyway like I said before, I dont give a shit what you think, its just a shame you wern't travelling with him.</p><p>And AP is reporting that the last thing that went through his mind upon impact, was his ass.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by whitefolks on 10-11-06 @ 8:49 PM</span>

[Doctor Z]

I actually am a Yankee fan, but the fact that you think that has anything to do with anything makes you retarded. There are things that go beyond the realm of sports. I don't think it matters what team you root for... No sane Yankee fan is rooting for John Lester to die of cancer. Cory Lidle, the man, not the Yankee, was 34 years old and left behind a wife and child. Where you find "humor" in this is confusing... but it leads me to believe that you're an attention whore. Hence, I'm done with you.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Doctor_Z on 10-11-06 @ 8:54 PM</span>

[Bulldogcakes]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>joeyballsack</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860</a></p><p>Didnt Thurmon Munson die in a similar accident ?</p><p>and Rocky Marciano &quot; god rest his soul &quot;...</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and John Denver</p><p>and JFK Jr</p><p>and Roberto Clemente</p><p>etc etc .. . <br /></p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[whitefolks]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>Doctor_Z</strong> wrote<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>&nbsp;No sane Yankee fan &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;thats the only thing that you have said that i agree with </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><blockquote /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[OGC]

<strong>Doctor_Z</strong> wrote:<br />.....but it leads me to believe that you're an attention whore. Hence, I'm done with you.<span class="post_edited">&nbsp; </span><p><font size="2">Well said Doctor_Z. It's the best way to deal with that type of person.</font></p>

[Wrestling Guy]

<font size="2">I went on ebay about&nbsp;1 1/2&nbsp;hours after i heard it was cory lidle and punched in&nbsp;his name and looked up the newly listed items. Amazingly hundreds of items rookie cards, autographed balls going for up to $280 and the worst of all people with listings for cory lidle memorial shirts, are you serious.People with just regular listings&nbsp;with nothing to do with baseball with cory lidle in the title.&nbsp;WOW it's amazing how people exploit tragedy.</font>

[furie]

So, i'm driving home from the supermarket near me when i got a call on my work cell phone. 'Blocked call' it says. Hmmm.. well even though i'm off (i got injured at work and have been off for the past week or so and will be for a few weeks more) I still have some duties to carry out.

I answer and it's a reporter from newsday asking for a statement on todays crash. So like the asshole I am, I answer "So why are you bothering me? She asked if this was the TSA number for NY and I tell her that she's calling me on my cell phone, that I'm off, but that I do work for TSA.
"Oh; can you give me a statement then?"
"No." I replied.
"may I ask what you do for them?"
"No" I replied again.
There was a bit of silence as she was either writing this down or thinking of something else to say when I asked how she got my cell phone. "It was given to me. Can you give me the number of someone who can give me a statement?
"No." I replied again.

At this point I should have hung up but I like long silences so i just stayed on the line till she hung up. Now I'm left to wonder who gave my cell phone to the media and why? I'm the ass end of the notification chain when I'm on the job. I'm out injured. How would I know anything?

[Dirtybird12]

<p>Someone on the news said you only need 40 or 45 hours to earn a liscense like he had. <br />You also need to be at least 17 years old and able to read english.</p><p>some other crap...both those 2 qualifications stood out.</p>

[Tenbatsuzen]

<p>According to some things I heard on WFAN, the wife was getting on an American airlines jet to LAX just as he was taking off in his plane.&nbsp; So she had no idea what happened until at least 8PM tonight.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[narc]

Fox is saying he didn't have a license yet and that you can't with only a years worth of experience, and that the <strong>Yankees</strong> required that he fly with an instructor if he was going to fly. <br />

[Dirtybird12]

<p>for those who care, CNN's Anderson Cooper sneezed during his show. </p><p>oh</p><p>and they have footage of the crash.&nbsp; A wide shot - haven't seen it yet. He's teasing it. </p>

[PapaBear]

<p>Not very detailed. I was hoping to see what kind of manoeuvres he was doing. From the descriptions, the manoeuvres were pretty strange, but it did appear that he tried to steer away from the building.</p><p>Kinda looks like he might have been trying to ditch it in the river.</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by PapaBear on 10-11-06 @ 11:48 PM</span>

[Dirtybird12]

<p>the video sucked. it was from the coast gaurd and just shows a fireball in the distance.</p><p>but I DID see retard island. what a spooky death trap that thing looks like.</p><p>So did anyone in NY or NJ see any fighter jets?</p>

[Fallon]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>CircusFreak</strong> wrote:<br /><br /><p>So did anyone in NY or NJ see any fighter jets?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>They had them flying over Boston too. Didn't see any.&nbsp;</p>

[A.J.]

<strong>joeyballsack</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860">http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2621860</a></p><p>Didnt Thurmon Munson die in a similar accident ?</p><p>Thurmon was the first thing I thought of when I heard the news.&nbsp; </p><p>This is awful news but, not to be callous, it's fortunate that more people weren't killed.</p>

[angrymissy]

<strong>whitefolks</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Stop with the fake moral outrage bullshit.</p><p>&nbsp;You, me, none of us knew the guy, when JFK jr took a header into the ocean the jokes were flying now you all have this fucking morality, so a man died, millions die every day, if this man hit a building in portland oregon there would be a diffrent vibe to this thread.</p><p>&nbsp;So stop with your postering and holier than thou attitude.</p><p>&nbsp;And MSNBC is reporting that he was actually aiming for the river, but was &quot;just a bit outside&quot; </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>You're on the wrong message board.</p>

[badorties]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>odd twist ...</p><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><p><a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061011&content_id=1709422&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym" target="_self">Lidle crash touches Mets' Acta</a>&nbsp;- <a href="http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061011&content_id=1709422&vkey=news_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym" target="_self">Third-base coach lives in building where accident occurred</a> </p>[/quote]

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by badorties on 10-12-06 @ 11:37 AM</span>

[Jennitalia]

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>Saw the footage from fox.&nbsp; not the best, but still creepy.&nbsp; </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Jennitalia on 10-12-06 @ 11:52 AM</span>

[Jennitalia]

<strong>Justice4all</strong> wrote:<br /><blockquote /><p>So now try using your head.</p><p>&quot;that's that lump three feet above your ass&quot;</p><p><img src="http://www.aayo.net/sponsors/current/hanks.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[OGC]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br />.....This is awful news but, not to be callous, it's fortunate that more people weren't killed.<p><font size="2">You are right, It is a terrible shame, but imagine if he had his wife and son with him.</font></p>

[A.J.]

<p>That's true but I was thinking more about residents of the building or people on the street.&nbsp; </p>

[keithy_19]

<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/delonas/delonas.htm?year=2006&month=10&day=13">http://www.nypost.com/delonas/delonas.htm?year=2006&amp;month=10&amp;day=13</a></p><p><img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/huh.gif" border="0" /></p>

[kevcala]

<p>&nbsp;</p><strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><p>That's true but I was thinking more about residents of the building or people on the street. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I just found out tonight that the duplex the plane crashed into belongs to my friend's uncle.</p><p>Craziness.</p>

[Justice4all]

<strong>whitefolks</strong> wrote:<br /><p>&nbsp;</p><p>My money was on you being a sour pussed yankee fan and im supprised you didn't mention Thurmon Munson either, another great yankee that didnt know how to fly a plane.<br /></p><p>Anyway like I said before, I dont give a shit what you think, its just a shame you wern't travelling with him.</p><p>And AP is reporting that the last thing that went through his mind upon impact, was his ass.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by whitefolks on 10-11-06 @ 8:49 PM</span> <p>Wow are you acting like one hell of an asshole right now. And to top it off, your jokes suck worse then mine!</p><p>Do you have ANY idea on what happend to Munson? Do you know HOW he died? How his friends WATCH him die? Go read up (IF you are smart enough to read a book that is....) or watch a documentary on what happend and then come back with something.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>