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TheRealEddie
10-29-2006, 11:05 AM
<p>I suppose this my be something I should &quot;ask the oracle&quot; but with
more stories about these machines coming out I wonder if I should honestly fear
them...<br /></p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/washington/29ballot.html?ei=5094&en=b96a172b39491d19&hp=&ex=1162180800&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1162152251-XuGuB4LHiOwIiEcr74yB8g" target="_self">NY Times story on foreign influence in voting machines...</a><br /></p>

Dudeman
10-29-2006, 11:09 AM
yes! just the fact that there is resistance to a paper print out of the vote should be a red flag.<br />

cupcakelove
10-29-2006, 11:57 AM
I don't know if they are worse than the paper voting systems in this country, but I have seen numerous articles talking about how easy it is to break into one of these systems.&nbsp; I don't know if someone could make a lot of fake votes on one machine without it being noticed.<br />

reeshy
10-29-2006, 12:16 PM
Nah...they don't scare me....I always have a can of mace if one of them gets fresh with me!!!!!<br />

FUNKMAN
10-29-2006, 04:16 PM
no, it's them fucking people in ohio that got me worried...

PapaBear
10-29-2006, 04:20 PM
I don't trust them. What was wrong with the old &quot;pull the lever&quot; things? I never heard about problems with those.

A.J.
10-30-2006, 03:01 AM
Only if Skynet built them.

torker
10-30-2006, 04:26 AM
<p>Electronic voters scare me.</p><p><img height="80" src="http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/town/thumbnails/LinguoThumb.gif" width="80" border="0" /></p>

Jujubees2
10-30-2006, 06:20 AM
<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />I don't know if they are worse than the paper voting systems in this country, but I have seen numerous articles talking about how easy it is to break into one of these systems.&nbsp; I don't know if someone could make a lot of fake votes on one machine without it being noticed.<br /><p><font size="2">Yeah, but what if they were programmed to &quot;switch&quot; a person's vote.&nbsp; With no paper trail it would be impossible to detect.</font></p><p><font size="2">And how about the CEO&nbsp;of Diebold declaring in 2004 that he was&nbsp;&quot;committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president.&quot;</font> </p><p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm">http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm</a></p>

CaptClown
10-31-2006, 06:06 AM
Why would I be worried about something that may happen since I can be&nbsp;worry about people getting out of their graves and voting?<img height="354" src="http://la.cacophony.org/zombies-gore4.jpg" width="316" border="0" />&nbsp;

Yerdaddy
10-31-2006, 06:19 AM
<strong>CaptClown</strong> wrote:<br />Why would I be worried about something that may happen since I can be&nbsp;worry about people getting out of their graves and voting?<img height="354" src="http://la.cacophony.org/zombies-gore4.jpg" width="316" border="0" />&nbsp; <p>Now THAT'S a get-out-the-vote campaign!</p>

cupcakelove
11-02-2006, 03:05 PM
<p>Tonight HBO is running a documentary called Hacking Democracy.</p><p><a href="http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&FOCUS_ID=633258" target="_self">http://www.hbo.com/apps/schedule/ScheduleServlet?ACTION_DETAIL=DETAIL&amp;FOCUS_ID=6332 58</a></p><p>Is American democracy safe in the age of computers? This cautionary
film looks at the very real risk of hackers altering vote counts in
public elections--and exposes the vulnerability of computers which
count approximately 80% of America's votes in county, state and federal
elections. Filmed in 2004-05, this documentary tells the story of Bev
Harris, a Seattle publicist/writer whose watchdog group uncovered
evidence of mishandled voting records and suspicious voting machine
malfunctions. Harris' crusade took the group--consisting of computer
experts, activists and political candidates from both parties--from her
home computer (where she found a computer system blueprint accidentally
made public) to Tallahassee, FL for a &quot;mini-election&quot; that proved just
how easy it is to hack the vote. (TVPG) (AC)&nbsp;</p><p>I saw an article saying that Diebold is not happy about this, and wants HBO to run some kind of disclaimer.&nbsp; If there are problems with the democratic process, I think we should all know about them.<br /></p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Bulldogcakes
11-02-2006, 03:32 PM
<p>I find this all to be pretty funny. The paranoid Left thought Bush stole the election in 2000, so they ask for all new machines, and then spent 2004 complaining about the long lines and how nobody knew what they were doing. REALLY! The average age of poll workers is 72 and your surprised that things grind to a halt when you change everything? Then they're scared of the new equiptment because a guy who was a Bush supporter owned the company. Now they're scared that Chavez's Venezuela (who hates Bush more than they do) owns this company, even though its run over here by Americans. Make up your minds, people. <br /></p><p>I cant help but suspect that in the minds of some people the election process will always be rigged if the results dont come out the way they want them to. &nbsp;</p>

Dudeman
11-07-2006, 10:20 AM
sounds like the shit is beginning to hit the fan with these machines.&nbsp; there is no way a machine to count votes can't be made with ease.&nbsp; it just seems fishy.<br />

Bulldogcakes
11-09-2006, 01:47 PM
<p>Gee. Look at this. Not a single post since Tuesday afternoon. </p><p>On Monday some machines were rigged, others weren't working properly, they were too old, others were too new, poll workers didn't show up, etc etc. </p><p>And somehow by Tuesday afternoon all the machines got fixed. <br /></p><p>It must be a miracle. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><br /></p>

suggums
11-09-2006, 01:49 PM
i still dont trust em, if thats what youre looking for<br />