Wackbag's Obsession With Ruining ESD's Life [Archive]

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 06:00 AM

Does anyone else find it incredibly strange that Wackbag is obsessed with ruining East Side Dave's life? I just heard Tony Bagels call in threaten ESD with the Inno that they bought for Claire. It's pretty pathetic that they took money out of pocket to try to hurt another human being from a radio show.  If Claire legitimately doesn't know about the lapdance then telling her could end a longterm relationship. What joy would someone get out of that? Also, there are many "man rules" that they would be breaking.Edit: Edited the H out of WackBag in the title and body of the thread. Sorry about that!

This message was edited by foodcourtdruide on 11-16-06 @ 10:25 AM

dereckfishboy

11-16-2006, 06:02 AM

I suppose you believe everything you hear on air....

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 06:04 AM

dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.

reillyluck

11-16-2006, 06:09 AM

He's free and willing to talk about it on the air, so i doubt he really cares if she finds out.   

buckcorncobb

11-16-2006, 06:13 AM

At some point Westside will learn all...you can't lie that much too your chick and get away with it forever...the worst part is when she finds out Dave will make up some wild crazy stories and SHE WILL BELIEVE IT!!!

This message was edited by buckcorncobb on 11-16-06 @ 10:14 AM

Marc with a c

11-16-2006, 06:15 AM

It wouldn't surprise me at all if wackbag actually wanted to ruin dave's relationship.  They have tried to ruin people's careers.  Why not somebody's relationship?

LOAF

11-16-2006, 06:18 AM

reillyluck wrote: He's free and willing to talk about it on the air, so i doubt he really cares if she finds out.    Yeah seriously, Do you think that ESD is stupid enough to believe that what he says on air doesn't get back to claire?!

Rockvillejoe

11-16-2006, 06:20 AM

Marc with a c wrote: It wouldn't surprise me at all if wackbag actually wanted to ruin dave's relationship.  They have tried to ruin people's careers.  Why not somebody's relationship?I'm not familiar with wackbag, don't read wackbag, but common sense is don't poke a bee hive unless you want to get stung. ESD, god love him, is his own worst enemy. In reality, what does ESD really give a shit? It's all internet entries, nothing really tangible or worthwhile in the real world. I believe he probably gets a kick out of all of the attention, Probably wishes it was  good than bad. But he is doing his job provoking the masses....

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 06:24 AM

Rockvillejoe wrote: Marc with a c wrote: It wouldn't surprise me at all if wackbag actually wanted to ruin dave's relationship.  They have tried to ruin people's careers.  Why not somebody's relationship?I'm not familiar with wackbag, don't read wackbag, but common sense is don't poke a bee hive unless you want to get stung. ESD, god love him, is his own worst enemy. In reality, what does ESD really give a shit? It's all internet entries, nothing really tangible or worthwhile in the real world. I believe he probably gets a kick out of all of the attention, Probably wishes it was  good than bad. But he is doing his job provoking the masses.... I agree with you 100%. However, don't you think it's strange that people want to speed up, or be an active participant in this process?

BYOBKenobi

11-16-2006, 06:27 AM

I really don't even think wackbag has any idea why they are mad at dave anymore.  At least not what they were mad at him originally for.I mean he says "fuck wackbag" at least once a day, but doesn't he shit on us too?  At least we are normal people about it and don't start calling in and trashing him like we're some kind of internet bully network.

dereckfishboy

11-16-2006, 06:27 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.    No, I just don't discount the possibility of anything BEING a bit. Try not being one of the over-abundant "Unnecessarily Defensive" guys.

dereckfishboy

11-16-2006, 06:34 AM

BYOBKenobi wrote: I really don't even think wackbag has any idea why they are mad at dave anymore. At least not what they were mad at him originally for.I mean he says "fuck wackbag" at least once a day, but doesn't he shit on us too? At least we are normal people about it and don't start calling in and trashing him like we're some kind of internet bully network.   I don't think wackbag is really mad at him. From my short time on that board, I noticed a large number of it's denizens like to fuck with people for purely antisocial reasons. At least that's my observation

BYOBKenobi

11-16-2006, 07:05 AM

good point.  I just think if you asked turtle why he was mad at dave originally he would have no clue.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:12 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. Well you obviously aren't, so don't hate.If you think we're trying to ruin his life and break up his relationship, I'm surprised you're a fan.  If you really thought all that,  you wouldn't be smart enough to get O&A or Ron and Fez.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:14 AM

dereckfishboy wrote:  BYOBKenobi wrote: I really don't even think wackbag has any idea why they are mad at dave anymore. At least not what they were mad at him originally for.I mean he says "fuck wackbag" at least once a day, but doesn't he shit on us too? At least we are normal people about it and don't start calling in and trashing him like we're some kind of internet bully network.   I don't think wackbag is really mad at him. From my short time on that board, I noticed a large number of it's denizens like to fuck with people for purely antisocial reasons. At least that's my observation Dave got piss drunk off like 2 beers one show and started bitching out Wackbag for NO OTHER REASON then he wanted to.  So these steps that have been taken, and that are still in motion, were started as a way to humble him and get him to apologize for it.  Only problem is, everytime it comes up he turns into Radio Tough Guy, so we move forward.

angrymissy

11-16-2006, 07:16 AM

Like I said in the previous thread about this, certain people will do anything to possibly go on the show or get a possibility of a mention on the air.  Pathetic.  The wackbag/ESD thing is zzzzzzz at this point.  We get it.  You hate Dave.  The fact that people would take their own money to put into this?  Also pathetic.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:17 AM

THE_LOAF wrote: reillyluck wrote: He's free and willing to talk about it on the air, so i doubt he really cares if she finds out.    Yeah seriously, Do you think that ESD is stupid enough to believe that what he says on air doesn't get back to claire?!I don't want to step out of character too much or blow up the bit, but Clare posts here and we speak about everything Dave says in listening threads and other threads.  She isn't completely in the dark about this stuff, but it's funny radio.  If you don't agree, deal with it.

angrymissy

11-16-2006, 07:18 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. Well you obviously aren't, so don't hate.If you think we're trying to ruin his life and break up his relationship, I'm surprised you're a fan.  If you really thought all that,  you wouldn't be smart enough to get O&A or Ron and Fez.Moe, maybe that's YOUR view, but if you read though that thread at wackbag, there are plenty of people who are not sharing that view.  I don't think it's really cool to say someone isn't "smart" enough to get O&A or R&F because they don't know if this is a bit or not.  There are a lot of people over there out for freaking blood, who I sincerely think do NOT think this is a bit (just read that thread that someone started here a few weeks ago).But this subject has already been beaten to death here.

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 07:21 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. Well you obviously aren't, so don't hate.If you think we're trying to ruin his life and break up his relationship, I'm surprised you're a fan.  If you really thought all that,  you wouldn't be smart enough to get O&A or Ron and Fez.Strange observation and a little insulting, but I'll play along. This seems to be your reasoning for trying to ruin ESD's life, however why do you think Claire knows what goes on on the show? It is completely logical that Claire doesn't listen to the show or read the message boards. If this is the case then she wouldn't know about what Dave says.If what I said is true, and what Dave has been saying is true then you ARE trying to break up his relationship.However, if I am incorrect, and this whole thing is a bit then you'd be right.

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 07:23 AM

dereckfishboy wrote:  foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.    No, I just don't discount the possibility of anything BEING a bit. Try not being one of the over-abundant "Unnecessarily Defensive" guys. I don't either, but at the same time I don't have this arrogant attitude about bits. You're like someone that lambastes someone else for enjoying wrestling because it's fake.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:24 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. Well you obviously aren't, so don't hate.If you think we're trying to ruin his life and break up his relationship, I'm surprised you're a fan.  If you really thought all that,  you wouldn't be smart enough to get O&A or Ron and Fez.Strange observation and a little insulting, but I'll play along. This seems to be your reasoning for trying to ruin ESD's life, however why do you think Claire knows what goes on on the show? It is completely logical that Claire doesn't listen to the show or read the message boards. If this is the case then she wouldn't know about what Dave says.If what I said is true, and what Dave has been saying is true then you ARE trying to break up his relationship.However, if I am incorrect, and this whole thing is a bit then you'd be right. Clare still posts here under the screen name West Side Clare.  She is free to read whatever she wants, and I'd guess that since her boyfriend is involved with the show, she's heard it a few times.

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 07:26 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. Well you obviously aren't, so don't hate.If you think we're trying to ruin his life and break up his relationship, I'm surprised you're a fan.  If you really thought all that,  you wouldn't be smart enough to get O&A or Ron and Fez.Strange observation and a little insulting, but I'll play along. This seems to be your reasoning for trying to ruin ESD's life, however why do you think Claire knows what goes on on the show? It is completely logical that Claire doesn't listen to the show or read the message boards. If this is the case then she wouldn't know about what Dave says.If what I said is true, and what Dave has been saying is true then you ARE trying to break up his relationship.However, if I am incorrect, and this whole thing is a bit then you'd be right. Clare still posts here under the screen name West Side Clare.  She is free to read whatever she wants, and I'd guess that since her boyfriend is involved with the show, she's heard it a few times.I didn't know that she still posts here, but I wouldn't assume Clare listens to the show because Dave is involved with it. I make software for a living and my girlfriend has never even open an application I've written. Her lack of interest in the show is completely plausible from the average fans point of view.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:28 AM

angrymissy wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. Well you obviously aren't, so don't hate.If you think we're trying to ruin his life and break up his relationship, I'm surprised you're a fan.  If you really thought all that,  you wouldn't be smart enough to get O&A or Ron and Fez.Moe, maybe that's YOUR view, but if you read though that thread at wackbag, there are plenty of people who are not sharing that view.  I don't think it's really cool to say someone isn't "smart" enough to get O&A or R&F because they don't know if this is a bit or not.  There are a lot of people over there out for freaking blood, who I sincerely think do NOT think this is a bit (just read that thread that someone started here a few weeks ago).But this subject has already been beaten to death here.Well you are right, that is my view and in the end I can only speak for myself.  The little back and forth Dave and I had for like 1 day was fun, and the amphibian remark made me laugh.  I'm not out for blood.I can't speak for EVERYONE on Wackbag but everyone I've spoken to about this knows what's going on, knows that Clare might already know what's going on but wanted to throw a few bucks together to keep a funny bit going.  Maybe only funny to a few but Ron wouldn't deal with it if he didn't think there could be something funny going on.Worst case, Clare isn't surprised by anything she hears because she already listend to the shows, we send a few gifts to the show and get a small feud going on air for part of a show again.

AKA

11-16-2006, 07:30 AM

Since coming to XM Ron and Fez got a whole new bunch of listeners who really took it upon themselves to judge every joke, guest, segment or coworker in real time. With a few obvious exceptions, n the past, if Ron made a passing funny comment, it might get repeated a couple of times, and that would be the end of it, but a big segment of newer listeners seemed to latch onto almost anything and ran it into the ground until even Ron seemed annoyed with the bit (the "I Miss..." comes to mind).Because they were new listeners, it appeared that they've were given a lot of latitude with catching on how Ron and Fez like to do things and treat their fans and friends. The show last year (this week) when the Sports Chicks were in, while funny, seemed to cross a line a bit with the post-show discussions on some of the messageboards (including one defunct one now that called a "war" on the chicks). That, and the really ugly response from the Hamell on Trial appearance, really appeared like touchstones in how their fan base was much larger, and different, than the ones at ronfez.net.Yes, old timers loved to hate Al Dukes, but the obsession Harry received seemed like Hate on Steroids. I have no idea if it was because of how miserable the listeners made Harry, but R&F appeared to ease Dave into the show more slowly to try and avoid the built in negativity for that assistant producer position - under the guise of a friend stopping in, or he's suddenly working in midtown manhattan selling hotdogs. But going back to those early appearances, a lot of those messageboard people made up their mind they didn't like him, and the more he came on the more they REALLY didn't like him. Occasionally I would troll other listening threads, and try and figure out who they actually did like, and it was almost always people I personally thought were either unfunny or were simply parrotting what other people did or said. Just differences of opinions. So, anyway, Dave was in the hole before he even got to the show. I don't blame one messageboard or even "newbies," and certainly ESD has done and said things that are hard to defend, but he is damn funny, sometimes even hysterical, and will always be better on radio or in life than any hater who think they have the answers to comedy.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:31 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: I didn't know that she still posts here, but I wouldn't assume Clare listens to the show because Dave is involved with it. I make software for a living and my girlfriend has never even open an application I've written. Her lack of interest in the show is completely plausible from the average fans point of view.Well I have no way of knowing if she listens either, I just assume she does, just as you assume she doesn't.But she has free access to the messageboard, so she's seen ESD threads pop up all over the place.  It's my firm belief that she's in the know, and that's the ONLY reason I'm part of this bit.  I'm not a fucking monster.  I wouldn't break 2 people up over a radio gag.  And it seems a lot of you folks in here don't know Wackbag very well.  It's somehow demonized and looked down your noses at.The people over there are a lot like the people over here.

This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 11-16-06 @ 11:32 AM

angrymissy

11-16-2006, 07:37 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: I didn't know that she still posts here, but I wouldn't assume Clare listens to the show because Dave is involved with it. I make software for a living and my girlfriend has never even open an application I've written. Her lack of interest in the show is completely plausible from the average fans point of view.Well I have no way of knowing if she listens either, I just assume she does, just as you assume she doesn't.But she has free access to the messageboard, so she's seen ESD threads pop up all over the place.  It's my firm belief that she's in the know, and that's the ONLY reason I'm part of this bit.  I'm not a fucking monster.  I wouldn't break 2 people up over a radio gag.  And it seems a lot of you folks in here don't know Wackbag very well.  It's somehow demonized and looked down your noses at.The people over there are a lot like the people over here.This message was edited by Death Metal Moe on 11-16-06 @ 11:32 AM I read/post on wackbag, and it is, for the most part, a totally different animal from ronfez.net.  There are people there that are like the people here, but there is also a HUGE segment of people who are much, much nastier.

BYOBKenobi

11-16-2006, 07:39 AM

moe, you have almost 27,000 posts here and yet you say "we" about wackbag.  just an observation.

sailor

11-16-2006, 07:44 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.   yes, derekfishboy is 2%

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 07:44 AM

BYOBKenobi wrote: moe, you have almost 27,000 posts here and yet you say "we" about wackbag.  just an observation.I am a member of both boards, but I am saying "we" on this occasion mostly because I donated 20 bucks to the Inno fund and have called in to add to the feud/bit once.

BYOBKenobi

11-16-2006, 07:47 AM

Fair enough, sir, fair enough.Whackbag's personality isn't as welcoming as ronfez.net.  I never felt comfortable enough to post there.I also don't like the ESD whackbag thing, so it's not making me jump to post there.

MilkmanDann

11-16-2006, 08:03 AM

BYOBKenobi wrote: Whackbag's personality isn't as welcoming as ronfez.net.  I never felt comfortable enough to post there.Your opinion, I'd view it exactly the opposite. Especially when the show first started on XM.I bounce around all the boards (well mostly) but I since I feel most comfortable there that makes me a Nasty person that wants to ruin Daves life? Its a bit..

K.C.

11-16-2006, 08:04 AM

As someone who did, and still does a little bit, post over there...I think most of those guys, especially the ones who call the show, like Turtle and TonyBagels, etc. see it like "Dave goes out of his way to make this stuff part of the show...he goes out of his way to talk about how he doesn't want his girlfriend to know...so on some level it's just a bit." I honestly don't think Dave would be stupid enough to consciously, and most of the time, unprovoked, reveal stuff on air that would damage him in his personal life. It's probably either one the following: that Dave knows Clare won't care, he's been making all this shit up so it doesn't matter anyway, or she already knows about most of it. So in short, I think the Wackbag guys just see it as being part of the bit...at least most of them...there are just some assholes that really wouldn't think twice if they actually believed they'd be ruining the guy's life...but for the most part, they're just playing in on it.

Tenbatsuzen

11-16-2006, 08:13 AM

Missy already summed it up, by Wackbag = needy attention whores.  They want to be a part of the show, but go about the wrong way in doing it.

Marc with a c

11-16-2006, 08:23 AM

claire obviously knows everything that goes on during the show.  that's why she started to cry when she found out dave told everyone about the chef, she was playing along.and wackbag is just playing along with the bit, they aren't actually collecting money for a radio because why would she need a radio if she already knows what's going on.

This message was edited by Marc with a c on 11-16-06 @ 12:24 PM

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 08:24 AM

BYOBKenobi wrote: Fair enough, sir, fair enough.Whackbag's personality isn't as welcoming as ronfez.net.  I never felt comfortable enough to post there.I also don't like the ESD whackbag thing, so it's not making me jump to post there.That's fine bro.  I hope I'm not coming off like I'm trying to sell Wackbag to anyone.  It isn't for everyone just as this place isn't.  There seems to be very little cross-posting, or amphibians as the Pasty Turd calls us.I just know from 1st hand experience that it isn't nearly as bad as everyone made it out to be, and I find it a lot of fun.

kellermcgee21

11-16-2006, 08:24 AM

I've missed the last 2 shows so I don't know if they brought this up but didn't dave say he was going to tell Claire about the dog at the GNR show?  Has this been brought up again yet?

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 08:25 AM

Marc with a c wrote: claire obviously knows everything that goes on during the show.  that's why she started to cry when she found out dave told everyone about the chef, she was playing along.and wackbag is just playing along with the bit, they aren't actually collecting money for a radio because why would she need a radio if she already knows what's going on.This message was edited by Marc with a c on 11-16-06 @ 12:24 PM The money part is indeed real.  The radio is actually already in our posession.But I agree with your 1st point about CLare already knowing or just not caring.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 08:26 AM

kellermcgee21 wrote: I've missed the last 2 shows so I don't know if they brought this up but didn't dave say he was going to tell Claire about the dog at the GNR show?  Has this been brought up again yet? The whole Clare/Inno thing has been pushed to the side for much larger, more important show goings on.  I don't think it's been addressed much, if at all.

Tenbatsuzen

11-16-2006, 08:33 AM

Marc with a c wrote: claire obviously knows everything that goes on during the show.  that's why she started to cry when she found out dave told everyone about the chef, she was playing along.and wackbag is just playing along with the bit, they aren't actually collecting money for a radio because why would she need a radio if she already knows what's going on.Allow me to retort. Clare = 2%.Wackbag = 98%

Marc with a c

11-16-2006, 08:39 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Marc with a c wrote: claire obviously knows everything that goes on during the show.  that's why she started to cry when she found out dave told everyone about the chef, she was playing along.and wackbag is just playing along with the bit, they aren't actually collecting money for a radio because why would she need a radio if she already knows what's going on.This message was edited by Marc with a c on 11-16-06 @ 12:24 PM The money part is indeed real.  The radio is actually already in our posession.But I agree with your 1st point about CLare already knowing or just not caring.why? my point is if she already knows why get the radio.and if she doesn't know, you are meddling, and i hate meddling. and moe i hope you realize i was being sarcastic in my first post.

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 08:40 AM

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 08:43 AM

Marc with a c wrote: why? my point is if she already knows why get the radio.and if she doesn't know, you are meddling, and i hate meddling. and moe i hope you realize i was being sarcastic in my first post.I donated because 20 bucks was well worth keeping the bit going.  I can't speak for everyone but I find this amusing.

ChimneyFish

11-16-2006, 01:42 PM

I didn't donate any money, because I like money.

BYOBKenobi

11-16-2006, 02:23 PM

This is the best example of Elitist "You don't get the bit" vs "you're just a listener, don't cross the line" I've ever seen. Would any of you like me to say not to hurt Westside so you can feel better about yourself by quoting me and saying "I am better than you"... whoops... I meant "You don't get the bit"

dereckfishboy

11-16-2006, 04:21 PM

foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys. No, I just don't discount the possibility of anything BEING a bit. Try not being one of the over-abundant "Unnecessarily Defensive" guys. I don't either, but at the same time I don't have this arrogant attitude about bits. You're like someone that lambastes someone else for enjoying wrestling because it's fake.   I'm going to guess you have a preconcieved notion when it comes to posters on message boards like this, maybe based on past experiences in which someone has dogged you for "not getting it". Whatever the deal is, you are being too defensive. Assuming I have an arrogant attitude based one ONE post which consisted of a small sentance comes off as you putting up your guard right away cuz you're used to getting smacked. Whatever your deal is, acting like you've got my personality pegged from one post is presumptious and a little arrogant in and of itself. Stop taking shit so seriously, bro.

Don Stugots

11-16-2006, 04:33 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: BYOBKenobi wrote: I really don't even think wackbag has any idea why they are mad at dave anymore. At least not what they were mad at him originally for.I mean he says "fuck wackbag" at least once a day, but doesn't he shit on us too? At least we are normal people about it and don't start calling in and trashing him like we're some kind of internet bully network. I don't think wackbag is really mad at him. From my short time on that board, I noticed a large number of it's denizens like to fuck with people for purely antisocial reasons. At least that's my observation Dave got piss drunk off like 2 beers one show and started bitching out Wackbag for NO OTHER REASON then he wanted to. So these steps that have been taken, and that are still in motion, were started as a way to humble him and get him to apologize for it. Only problem is, everytime it comes up he turns into Radio Tough Guy, so we move forward. Moe, it wasnt just 2 beers, it was a power hour. which can knock many a heavy drinker for a loop. Wasnt the shot of ESD SUX AT LIFE fired before that? i think it was, i think it was done before he challenged JOY to the sports triva contest. You say he turns in to Radio Tough Guy, but what is he supposed to do? crumble to the mighty Wackbag? fuck that. if it was me i would be swinging a brick at someone's chest cavity. If its a bit, cool. if someone is trying to ruin someone else's life, that is uncalled for. Whatever problems Dave and Claire have are between them even if it becomes fodder for the show. Has anyone thought that if Claire finds out how this would hurt her? Why should she get her heart broken by a bunch of douches? She is a sweet, innocent and niave kid. Leave her alone.  someone be a real man and challenge him to a night of fights.  not this pussy bullshit.   

This message was edited by STUGOTS1 on 11-16-06 @ 8:34 PM

mikeyboy

11-16-2006, 04:46 PM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  Death Metal Moe wrote: dereckfishboy wrote:  BYOBKenobi wrote: I really don't even think wackbag has any idea why they are mad at dave anymore. At least not what they were mad at him originally for.I mean he says "fuck wackbag" at least once a day, but doesn't he shit on us too? At least we are normal people about it and don't start calling in and trashing him like we're some kind of internet bully network.   I don't think wackbag is really mad at him. From my short time on that board, I noticed a large number of it's denizens like to fuck with people for purely antisocial reasons. At least that's my observation Dave got piss drunk off like 2 beers one show and started bitching out Wackbag for NO OTHER REASON then he wanted to. So these steps that have been taken, and that are still in motion, were started as a way to humble him and get him to apologize for it. Only problem is, everytime it comes up he turns into Radio Tough Guy, so we move forward.    Moe, it wasnt just 2 beers, it was a power hour. which can knock many a heavy drinker for a loop. Wasnt the shot of ESD SUX AT LIFE fired before that? i think it was, i think it was done before he challenged JOY to the sports triva contest. You say he turns in to Radio Tough Guy, but what is he supposed to do? crumble to the mighty Wackbag? fuck that. if it was me i would be swinging a brick at someone's chest cavity. If its a bit, cool. if someone is trying to ruin someone else's life, that is uncalled for. Whatever problems Dave and Claire have are between them even if it becomes fodder for the show. Has anyone thought that if Claire finds out how this would hurt her? Why should she get her heart broken by a bunch of douches? She is a sweet, innocent and niave kid. Leave her alone.  someone be a real man and challenge him to a night of fights.  not this pussy bullshit.   This message was edited by STUGOTS1 on 11-16-06 @ 8:34 PM Stugots is right.  ESD had been taking a beating in the wackbag listening threads on a pretty regular basis.  That began to spill out into calls to the show like the couple that came from Julie and lead to "East Side Dave Sucks at Life".  So he did what makes sense in that situation -- he fought back.  Compare that to Harry who was in a barrel with the listeners and never did anything to respond.  Judging solely by Harry's demeanor on the air, it really beat him down.  Some folks at Wackbag took shots, and Dave fought back.  In fact, he's even gone on the offensive on the show and on WB by starting <a href="http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=55164" target="_self">new threads</a> a couple of times.  They don't like him, so he gets back at them by trying to get under their skin with his attacks.  I think most of people are having fun with it and get the bit, but there are a few who haven't gotten into a froth over it.  Here's a tip -- if Dave's really getting to you, it's mission accomplished for him.  He's playing the heel to the haters, and in some cases, it's working.

Marc with a c

11-16-2006, 05:57 PM

east side for mod!

Don Stugots

11-16-2006, 05:58 PM

Marc with a c wrote: east side for mod!   i second it.

Death Metal Moe

11-16-2006, 06:02 PM

Marc with a c wrote: east side for mod!  How good are the drugs you're on?

foodcourtdruide

11-16-2006, 06:52 PM

dereckfishboy wrote:  foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote:  foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.    No, I just don't discount the possibility of anything BEING a bit. Try not being one of the over-abundant "Unnecessarily Defensive" guys. I don't either, but at the same time I don't have this arrogant attitude about bits. You're like someone that lambastes someone else for enjoying wrestling because it's fake.   I'm going to guess you have a preconcieved notion when it comes to posters on message boards like this, maybe based on past experiences in which someone has dogged you for "not getting it". Whatever the deal is, you are being too defensive. Assuming I have an arrogant attitude based one ONE post which consisted of a small sentance comes off as you putting up your guard right away cuz you're used to getting smacked. Whatever your deal is, acting like you've got my personality pegged from one post is presumptious and a little arrogant in and of itself. Stop taking shit so seriously, bro. I really don't want to fight, and I would not for a second judge your personality based on one or two sentences on a message board. I honestly don't know much about you, and would feel ridiculous to suggest I have your personality pegged. I think this is a case of miscommunication. Can we just call this an impass and move on with our lives? Message board fights are ridiculous.. we'll just go back and forth and not listen to one anothers point of view until one of us calls the other a Nazi.

FreshJ

11-16-2006, 07:23 PM

The Cringe Humor People don't get it.  Most people don't want to hear some fans, going out and attacking people in their homes.  That takes it too far.  This is why the inno thing is so strong move, that others don't see it as right.  You can hate the show, you can hate the man, but when you go beyond that, you become a scary stalker.  You become obsessed with making other's lives terrible.  Just think before you take things far beyond something that is funny to something that is scary freaky.  Just my thoughts.

TokeOne

11-16-2006, 07:29 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Stugots is right.  ESD had been taking a beating in the wackbag listening threads on a pretty regular basis.  That began to spill out into calls to the show like the couple that came from Julie and lead to "East Side Dave Sucks at Life".  So he did what makes sense in that situation -- he fought back.  Compare that to Harry who was in a barrel with the listeners and never did anything to respond.  Judging solely by Harry's demeanor on the air, it really beat him down.  Some folks at Wackbag took shots, and Dave fought back.  In fact, he's even gone on the offensive on the show and on WB by starting <a href="http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=55164" target="_self">new threads</a> a couple of times.  They don't like him, so he gets back at them by trying to get under their skin with his attacks.  I think most of people are having fun with it and get the bit, but there are a few who haven't gotten into a froth over it.  Here's a tip -- if Dave's really getting to you, it's mission accomplished for him.  He's playing the heel to the haters, and in some cases, it's working.Dave is the face in the feud though. Wackbag is the heel stable and Ron is a mega tweener. Turtle is nothing but a jobber.

Don Stugots

11-16-2006, 07:36 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Marc with a c wrote: east side for mod! How good are the drugs you're on?   you know something Moe, you might not even care  but after reading your posts on this subject i have lost alot of respect for you.  to call in to push dave's buttons is one thing but to give your hard earned money to something  that will hurt someone that is innocent this situtation is low.  if the people at wackbag are of this caliber then i am glad that i do not know them or post there.  there is no honor in playing with people's lives.

Krieger

11-16-2006, 07:42 PM

Dave's cool, he's a great asset to the show now and some people can't accept that. A bit or not it still sounds stupid that whackbag would buy a my fi for west side. If that actually does fuck up daves life thats really fucked up because its not like Dave is going to whackbag , and fucking up EVERYONES lives so its just stupid. And Dave is making a effort to break the news to claire he said so its not all a total shock if he eventually gets it. And hey if Dave loses west side theres a possibility that he might leave the show. And who's gonna tell us the fans stupid funny stories about a pathetic life its been so far, who i ask who! EARL?? No , Dave is simply great.

reillyluck

11-16-2006, 08:02 PM

i love to hate dave.  sure i think he's a ginger, but so what? He makes me laugh and thats what i like about him.  Yeah i think he's a complete dodo brain, but isnt that what makes great entertainment?  we need an eastside dave in any movie, tv, radio or even in your clan of friends.  If we didnt have an ESD in any of these things, then what would give us the will to create comedy? 

Fez4PrezN2008

11-16-2006, 08:37 PM

Psst... Hey come closer... *low whisper*... don't tell anybody.... It's a bit... Ron does all the voices. There is no Dave, Earl, or even Fez. He even did Kurt Angle yesterday. Keep it a secret or you'll ruin it for everybody.

Bama

11-16-2006, 08:37 PM

I'm guess I'm definitely not one of the "get the bit" guys.Somebody please explain to me how this could possibly ruin his life. His girlfriend will hear the things he said? Is that really the worst thing in the world?  Is giving her the inno a bit? Are we supposed to rally around ESD now? I'm so confused.I'll continue hating Dave until I can figure all this out.

boisestate

11-17-2006, 09:12 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: BYOBKenobi wrote: moe, you have almost 27,000 posts here and yet you say "we" about wackbag.  just an observation.I am a member of both boards, but I am saying "we" on this occasion mostly because I donated 20 bucks to the Inno fund and have called in to add to the feud/bit once.amphibian!!!!!<img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/laugh.gif" border="0" />

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:18 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  Death Metal Moe wrote:  Marc with a c wrote: east side for mod!  How good are the drugs you're on?you know something Moe, you might not even care  but after reading your posts on this subject i have lost alot of respect for you.  to call in to push dave's buttons is one thing but to give your hard earned money to something  that will hurt someone that is innocent this situtation is low.  if the people at wackbag are of this caliber then i am glad that i do not know them or post there.  there is no honor in playing with people's lives.  Gimmie a fucking break Stu.  You're gonna be "Doesn't get the bit" guy now too?Then fine, don't respect me, don't read my posts in here saying I only joined in because we all know it's a bit, and don't go post on Wackbag.  You're not hurting me or them on any count.

Don Stugots

11-17-2006, 09:24 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Marc with a c wrote: east side for mod! How good are the drugs you're on?you know something Moe, you might not even care but after reading your posts on this subject i have lost alot of respect for you. to call in to push dave's buttons is one thing but to give your hard earned money to something that will hurt someone that is innocent this situtation is low. if the people at wackbag are of this caliber then i am glad that i do not know them or post there. there is no honor in playing with people's lives. Gimmie a fucking break Stu. You're gonna be "Doesn't get the bit" guy now too?Then fine, don't respect me, don't read my posts in here saying I only joined in because we all know it's a bit, and don't go post on Wackbag. You're not hurting me or them on any count.   moe, i dont go to wackbag.  i can care less if i am hurting them or not.  to have someone call up and say "dave, dont say the work Fuck, thats turtle's word" is fucking stupid.  now, if you are giving your money to something that is for real, you did say that the unit was bought already, then you (by you, i mean wackbag) are planning on giving it to claire.  i think its beyond a bit now its low.  the intent to ruin dave's life would be by hurting West Side who does not deserve to be hurt at all.  its a beyond a bit if people are spending money on something just not to really give it to her.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:27 AM

"Doesn't get the Bit Guy" it is then.  Have fun with that.

Don Stugots

11-17-2006, 09:29 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: "Doesn't get the Bit Guy" it is then. Have fun with that.   then explain it.  because its not funny anymore.  you what, dont explain it, keep laughing with your wackbag friends.  because you guys get it.  ha ha ha.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:31 AM

I have no problem with you Stu, and don't mean this to come off as snotty as it's gonna look typed out, but I've explained my position on this, my feelings that Clare already knows everything that's going on, that I would never try to break up 2 people, and that everyone who I've talked to who donated feels much the same on Wackbag.I'm not tying it all out again.  Go read my conversations on the 1st and 2nd page if you want more clarification.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:33 AM

And since people keep bringing up Wackbag like they're pieces of shit for some reason, let me just say that I'd NEVER have to fucking explain myself like this on Wackbag.The people either get the joke, don't care or aren't so fucking touchy about EVERYTHING.  I've never had ONE fight over there.

Don Stugots

11-17-2006, 09:38 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: And since people keep bringing up Wackbag like they're pieces of shit for some reason, let me just say that I'd NEVER have to fucking explain myself like this on Wackbag.The people either get the joke, don't care or aren't so fucking touchy about EVERYTHING. I've never had ONE fight over there.   i have never had a problem with anything anyone has said here except for when someone is attacking someone for no reason, i.e. claire, winnie cooper.  so, i know that i am not touchy on anything, just read any of my posts.  yes, you are coming across as snotty. if Wackbag people are so much better than us here, since you dont have to explain yourself or be accountable for hurtful actions then i guess you fit in there perfectly.   good for you.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:40 AM

You're fairly stuck up for a guy with jiggling tits for your avatar.

Don Stugots

11-17-2006, 09:45 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: You're fairly stuck up for a guy with jiggling tits for your avatar.   want to name call?  want to make it real?  it can be.

MrPink

11-17-2006, 09:46 AM

who gives a shit

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:49 AM

STUGOTS1 wrote:  Death Metal Moe wrote: You're fairly stuck up for a guy with jiggling tits for your avatar.  want to name call?  want to make it real?  it can be.   This is what I'm talking about Stu.  I'm not mad and you and that last statement was a joke.  I have no interest in fighting with you and I won't.You really seem like you want to take this somewhere that it's not going to go.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 09:49 AM

MrPink wrote: who gives a shit Quoted for truth

walking joint

11-17-2006, 09:49 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: And since people keep bringing up Wackbag like they're pieces of shit for some reason, let me just say that I'd NEVER have to fucking explain myself like this on Wackbag.i can't believe it, but i agree with Moe.  so many people on this site put themselves above the posters at wackbag.  get over yourselves.

walking joint

11-17-2006, 09:50 AM

Don Stugots

11-17-2006, 09:52 AM

walking joint wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: You're fairly stuck up for a guy with jiggling tits for your avatar. want to name call? want to make it real? it can be. gay   joint, i for one, do now put myself above anyone.  if Moe wants to call me names, i will not do so.  its not gay.  if you or anyone else has a problem with the fact that someone is trying to insult me and i will go that way then please PM to discuss.

Tenbatsuzen

11-17-2006, 09:54 AM

So as a dumb question, wouldn't everyone getting the bit indicate that the Inno was never bought?I mean, Moe gave up 20 bucks to buy an Inno.  An Inno is bought.  So if it's just a bit, who gets the inno? I'm not getting it. I mean, Al Dukes' diploma was never torn up... it was a photocopy...

reillyluck

11-17-2006, 10:02 AM

walking joint wrote: STUGOTS1 wrote:  Death Metal Moe wrote: You're fairly stuck up for a guy with jiggling tits for your avatar.    want to name call?  want to make it real?  it can be.   gaynice way to get into the conversation.  i say not gay!!!

mikeyboy

11-17-2006, 10:11 AM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: So as a dumb question, wouldn't everyone getting the bit indicate that the Inno was never bought?I mean, Moe gave up 20 bucks to buy an Inno.  An Inno is bought.  So if it's just a bit, who gets the inno? I'm not getting it. I mean, Al Dukes' diploma was never torn up... it was a photocopy... Dave's Wackbag tattoo?  Temporary tattoo       ...wait.  That's not true.

booster11373

11-17-2006, 10:13 AM

I dont get the bit, cause only ESD's parts are funny

angrymissy

11-17-2006, 10:38 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: I have no problem with you Stu, and don't mean this to come off as snotty as it's gonna look typed out, but I've explained my position on this, my feelings that Clare already knows everything that's going on, that I would never try to break up 2 people, and that everyone who I've talked to who donated feels much the same on Wackbag.I'm not tying it all out again.  Go read my conversations on the 1st and 2nd page if you want more clarification.Do you know for a 100% absolute fact, that Claire knows everything?  That's what I honestly want to know.

BYOBKenobi

11-17-2006, 11:25 AM

wow, I totally forgot about his whackbag tattoo.  He should have lifelong immunity

Tenbatsuzen

11-17-2006, 02:58 PM

mikeyboy wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: So as a dumb question, wouldn't everyone getting the bit indicate that the Inno was never bought?I mean, Moe gave up 20 bucks to buy an Inno. An Inno is bought. So if it's just a bit, who gets the inno? I'm not getting it. I mean, Al Dukes' diploma was never torn up... it was a photocopy... Dave's Wackbag tattoo? Temporary tattoo ...wait. That's not true.   In fairness, there's a difference between a member of the show going to great lengths for a bit (Dave, Jefe, etc. getting tattoos) and mouthbreathers with a computer who are starved for attention and have disposable income.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 03:02 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: In fairness, there's a difference between a member of the show going to great lengths for a bit (Dave, Jefe, etc. getting tattoos) and mouthbreathers with a computer who are starved for attention and have disposable income.I don't get your problem with Wackbag but it seems you have a big one.  You take every opportunity you can to attack them like you're me with Don and Mike references.And why is our participation much different than Dave's tattoo or anyone else?  Ron and Fez allow it to happen.  Do you think ANYTHING happens on that show that Ron and Fez don't want on or at least can control to a point?

Tenbatsuzen

11-17-2006, 03:06 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: In fairness, there's a difference between a member of the show going to great lengths for a bit (Dave, Jefe, etc. getting tattoos) and mouthbreathers with a computer who are starved for attention and have disposable income.I don't get your problem with Wackbag but it seems you have a big one. You take every opportunity you can to attack them like you're me with Don and Mike references.And why is our participation much different than Dave's tattoo or anyone else? Ron and Fez allow it to happen. Do you think ANYTHING happens on that show that Ron and Fez don't want on or at least can control to a point?   My problem with Wackbag is the hypocrisy, the pathetic groupthink they instill, their antics that may preclude the fanbase for BOTH shows from growing...

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 03:19 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: My problem with Wackbag is the hypocrisy, the pathetic groupthink they instill, their antics that may preclude the fanbase for BOTH shows from growing...See, that's the kind of shit I heard about Wackbag all the time over here.  Then I actually went there and it's not like that at all.

Grendel_Kahn

11-17-2006, 03:31 PM

foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.   I
found that to be extraordinarily funny.  And too true.  
And I still can't use the "quote " feature right.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 03:33 PM

Grendel_Kahn wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: dereckfishboy wrote: I suppose you believe everything you hear on air.... Oh, I'm sorry. You're one of the elite "I get the bit" guys.   I found that to be extraordinarily funny.  And too true.   And I still can't use the "quote " feature right.   It's a problem with Firefox.  I use the IE Tab function everytime I want to quote here.

Tenbatsuzen

11-17-2006, 03:37 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: My problem with Wackbag is the hypocrisy, the pathetic groupthink they instill, their antics that may preclude the fanbase for BOTH shows from growing...See, that's the kind of shit I heard about Wackbag all the time over here. Then I actually went there and it's not like that at all.   Perhaps the FBA/Wackbag fracturing changed things, but I still see it as an awful, hard to read board that appeals to the lowest common denominator of 202 fans.

Death Metal Moe

11-17-2006, 03:40 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Death Metal Moe wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: My problem with Wackbag is the hypocrisy, the pathetic groupthink they instill, their antics that may preclude the fanbase for BOTH shows from growing...See, that's the kind of shit I heard about Wackbag all the time over here. Then I actually went there and it's not like that at all.Perhaps the FBA/Wackbag fracturing changed things, but I still see it as an awful, hard to read board that appeals to the lowest common denominator of 202 fans.That's fine, I just know I have fun there and I feel I should let you know that there's a lot of nice people that I interact with there. I'd do the same over on Wackbag if they attacked Ronfez.net for no reason.