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Yerdaddy

11-16-2006, 03:25 PM

Oh by the way:<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/15/AR2006111501622.html?nav=hcmodule" target="_blank">Taliban, Al-Qaeda Resurge In Afghanistan, CIA Says </a>By Dafna Linzer and Walter Pincus Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, November 16, 2006; A22  Al-Qaeda's influence and numbers are rapidly growing in <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/afghanistan.html?nav=el" target="">Afghanistan</a>, with fighters operating from new havens and mimicking techniques learned on the Iraqi battlefield for use against U.S. and allied troops, the directors of the CIA and defense intelligence told Congress yesterday.Five years after the United States drove al-Qaeda and the Taliban from Afghanistan, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, director of the CIA, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that both groups are back, waging a "bloody insurgency" in the south and east of the country. U.S. support for the Kabul government of Hamid Karzai will be needed for "at least a decade" to ensure that the country does not fall again, he said.At yesterday's Senate hearings, devoted mostly to <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/countries/iraq.html?nav=el" target="">Iraq</a>, Hayden and Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Pentagon's Defense Intelligence Agency, painted a stark portrait of a struggling Afghanistan and a successful al-Qaeda capable of operating on two battlefields."The direct tissue between Iraq and Afghanistan is al-Qaeda," said Hayden, who visited both countries recently. "The lessons learned in Iraq are being applied to Afghanistan."Senators noted the increased use of roadside bombs and the relatively new phenomenon of suicide attacks, which had not been seen in Afghanistan before the Iraq war.Hayden told the Senate panel that the Taliban, aided by al-Qaeda, "has built momentum this year" in Afghanistan and that "the level of violence associated with the insurgency has increased significantly." He also noted that Karzai's government "is nowhere to be seen" in many rural areas where a lack of security is affecting millions of Afghans for whom the quality of life has not advanced since the U.S. military arrived in October 2001.Maples said the insurgency "had strengthened its capabilities and influence" with its base among Pashtun communities in the south, as violence this year has almost doubled since 2005. U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan began dropping earlier this year as NATO arrived to take over the bulk of the fighting. Meanwhile, U.S. Special Forces continue to search for al-Qaeda bases in Afghan-Pakistani border areas.The CIA director said that region has become a new "physical safe haven" that al-Qaeda uses as a "jump-off point for its guerrilla forays into Afghanistan."Bush administration officials have repeatedly said that the battle against al-Qaeda has led to the death or capture of more than half of Osama bin Laden's top people.Hayden said yesterday that "the group's cadre of seasoned, committed leaders" remains fairly cohesive and focused on strategic objectives, "despite having lost a number of veterans over the years." Bin Laden himself, and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri, continue to play a crucial role while hiding out somewhere along the Afghan-Pakistani border. Both men said a U.S. military failure in Iraq would effectively turn the country into al-Qaeda's next haven, providing the group with the kind of security it had in Afghanistan for years before 2001.

Bulldogcakes

11-16-2006, 04:14 PM

Leave these people alone. I need my Heroin.

A.J.

11-17-2006, 03:58 AM

Did he mention Somalia?  That's turning into another radical Islamic state too.

reeshy

11-17-2006, 04:18 AM

So is Hoboken!!!!!

foodcourtdruide

11-17-2006, 05:14 AM

I always thought the dems strategy should have been to push more for a stronger campaign in Afghanistan and point out how:a. How poorly the war there has been executed.b. How shady the Military that contracts were handed out were.c. How Iraq detracts from this war.I think it would ignite the hayseeds.

CofyCrakCocaine

11-17-2006, 05:34 AM

Depends on the kind of Dem that has power. If you have the Ned Lamont of the Dems, it would be full withdrawel. If you have the Franklin Roosevelt kind of Dem (does that kind of Dem exist today? Hm? Any takers?), then he would certainly go after the trouble areas that have arisen in light of Iraq. Namely: Iran and Afghanistan, without the pretenses of trying to Americanize the country, which is a futile thing to attempt with a military. No one likes to get forced into a different way of life via armed force. If we sent an army into Mexico City with the intent of stopping drug trade, gangs, and kidnappings, it would be widely resented by the people there and it would most likely ultimately fail. Though there is no such thing as inevitable in these situations.

Don Stugots

11-17-2006, 05:37 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: I always thought the dems strategy should have been to push more for a stronger campaign in Afghanistan and point out how:a. How poorly the war there has been executed.b. How shady the Military that contracts were handed out were.c. How Iraq detracts from this war.I think it would ignite the hayseeds.   the only thing that ignites the good ol' boys is gay or inter racial marriage.

Furtherman

11-17-2006, 11:55 AM

Afghaniwho? <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm/Forum/52/Topic/52671/page/Cancel_My_Subscription.htm" target="_blank">Exactly.</a><img height="631" src="http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/Mag/061002_Issue/nw_leftnavcov_OV_061002.jpg" width="122" border="0" />

SinA

11-17-2006, 02:53 PM

Yerdaddy

12-02-2006, 03:47 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Leave these people alone. I need my Heroin. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101654_pf.html" target="_blank">You got it! </a>This same story is becomming an annual tradition.Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record U.S.-Backed Efforts At Eradication FailBy Karen DeYoung Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, December 2, 2006; A01Opium production in Afghanistan, which provides more than 90 percent of the world's heroin, broke all records in 2006, reaching a historic high despite ongoing U.S.-sponsored eradication efforts, the Bush administration reported yesterday.In addition to a 26 percent production increase over past year -- for a total of 5,644 metric tons -- the amount of land under cultivation in opium poppies grew by 61 percent. Cultivation in the two main production provinces, Helmand in the southwest and Oruzgan in central Afghanistan, was up by 132 percent.White House drug policy chief John Walters called the news "disappointing."The administration has cited resurgent Taliban forces as the main impediment to stabilization and reconstruction efforts in Afghanistan, and the U.S. military investment has far exceeded anti-narcotic and development programs. But U.S. military and intelligence officials have increasingly described the drug trade as a problem that rivals and in some ways exceeds the Taliban, threatening to derail other aspects of U.S. policy."It is truly the Achilles' heel of Afghanistan," Gen. James L. Jones, the supreme allied commander for NATO, said in a recent speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. Afghanistan is NATO's biggest operation, with more than 30,000 troops. Drug cartels with their own armies engage in regular combat with NATO forces deployed in Afghanistan, he said. "It would be wrong to say that this is just the Taliban. I think I need to set that record straight," he added."They have their own capability to inflict damage, to make sure that the roads and the passages stay open and they get to where they want to go, whether it's through Pakistan, Iran, up through Russia and all the known trade routes. So this is a very violent cartel," Jones said. "They are buying their protection by funding other organizations, from criminal gangs to tribes, to inciting any kind of resistance to keep the government off of their back."[QUOTE]Because of security concerns and local sensibilities, all eradication is done by Afghan police, and corruption is a major problem at every level from cultivation to international trafficking. Although the drug trade is believed to provide some financing to the Taliban, most experts believe it is largely an organized criminal enterprise. According to a major report on the Afghan drug industry jointly released last week by the World Bank and the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime, key narcotics traffickers "work closely with sponsors in top government and political positions."The report drew specific attention to the Afghan Interior Ministry, saying its officials were increasingly involved in providing protection for and facilitating consolidation of the drug industry in the hands of leading traffickers. "At the lower levels," the report said, "payments to police to avoid eradication or arrest reportedly are very widespread. At higher levels, provincial and district police chief appointments appear to be a tool for key traffickers and sponsors to exercise control and favor their proteges at middle levels in the drug industry."Opium cultivation was outlawed during Taliban rule in the late 1990s and was nearly eliminated by 2001. After the overthrow of the Taliban government by U.S. forces in the fall of that year, the Bush administration said that keeping a lid on production was among its highest pr

Bulldogcakes

12-02-2006, 05:30 AM

Yerdaddy wrote:Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets RecordOpium production in Afghanistan, which provides more than 90 percent of the world's heroin, broke all records in 2006, reaching a historic high despite ongoing U.S.-sponsored eradication efforts, the Bush administration reported yesterday. That is just hilarious. You cant make this shit up.  Reminds me of something Mark Twain once said. "Against the assault of laughter, nothing can stand" THis president and his administration is a joke. You guys had Jimmy Carter, we have Bush 2. Its just unfortunate that people are dying as a result of this clown, instead of wearing sweaters.

Crispy123

12-02-2006, 05:32 AM

This is the epitomy of the failure of the Dems to take any kind of leadership. Afghanistan/Pakistan is where we need to put 100,000 troops to fuck up Osama and Al-Qada. Not Iraq to fuck up someone who pissed in daddies wheaties. I don't get why we don't here more about this from the opposition party. Oh and I would never support impeaching Bush until Cheney is in a pine box. I couldn't imagine what would happen if that douche was actually the Pres.

A.J.

12-02-2006, 05:43 AM

Bulldogcakes

12-02-2006, 04:12 PM

A.J. wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record Opium production in Afghanistan, which provides more than 90 percent of the world's heroin, broke all records in 2006, reaching a historic high despite ongoing U.S.-sponsored eradication efforts, the Bush administration reported yesterday.Let's get them to grow tobacco instead of opium! IF they did that, you might actually get the Left to support bombing the shit out of them.

BLZBUBBA

12-02-2006, 04:49 PM

I recommend the book IMPERIAL HUBRIS by anonymous.  I also recommend books by that Baer guy.  I don't recommend going to magazine articles and making judgements based on those.  The situation over there is too complicated.  It's certainly too complicated  to base one's beliefs on something read while...taking a dump.

FUNKMAN

12-02-2006, 04:52 PM

we're losing the battle and the war. get the boys and girls home! put all the money and man power into building up the infrastructure and intelligence of this country. this has been a funkman editorial

Bulldogcakes

12-02-2006, 06:09 PM

FUNKMAN wrote: we're losing the battle and the war. get the boys and girls home! put all the money and man power into building up the infrastructure and intelligence of this country. this has been a funk-atorial Fixed that. Has a certain ring to it.

A.J.

12-04-2006, 07:43 AM

FUNKMAN wrote: we're losing the battle and the war. get the boys and girls home! put all the money and man power into building up the infrastructure and intelligence of this country. this has been a funkman editorialJudging by our school systems, God knows we need to.

FUNKMAN

12-04-2006, 07:51 AM

A.J. wrote: FUNKMAN wrote: we're losing the battle and the war. get the boys and girls home! put all the money and man power into building up the infrastructure and intelligence of this country. this has been a funkman editorialJudging by our school systems, God knows we need to.Exactly!  well almost. I was kind of including the school systems in the infrastructure and the intelligence being the FBI, CIA, Immigration and Naturalization, and Homeland Security. I guess i don't write so good... i need some of that intelligence money

sailor

12-04-2006, 08:03 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote: FUNKMAN wrote: we're losing the battle and the war. get the boys and girls home! put all the money and man power into building up the infrastructure and intelligence of this country. this has been a funk-atorial Fixed that. Has a certain ring to it.  THAAAAAANK YOU!

Yerdaddy

12-27-2006, 07:16 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Leave these people alone. I need my Heroin. You got it!<h1><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-heroin26dec26,1,7890942,full.story?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true" target="_blank">Afghan heroin's surge poses danger in U.S.</a> : <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-heroin26dec26,1,7890942,full.story?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true" target="_blank">The world's purest form can kill more addicts, as seen in L.A. County.</a></h1>Supplies of highly potent Afghan heroin in the United States are growing so fast that the pure white powder is rapidly overtaking lower-quality Mexican heroin, prompting fears of increased addiction and overdoses. Heroin-related deaths in Los Angeles County soared from 137 in 2002 to 239 in 2005, a jump of nearly 75% in three years, a period when other factors contributing to overdose deaths remained unchanged, experts said. The jump in deaths was especially prevalent among users older than 40, who lack the resilience to recover from an overdose of unexpectedly strong heroin, according to a study by the county's Office of Health Assessment and Epidemiology. "The rise of heroin from Afghanistan is our biggest rising threat in the fight against narcotics," said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino. "We are seeing more seizures and more overdoses." According to a Drug Enforcement Administration report obtained by The Times, Afghanistan's poppy fields have become the fastest-growing source of heroin in the United States. Its share of the U.S. market doubled from 7% in 2001, the year U.S. forces overthrew the Taliban, to 14% in 2004, the latest year studied. Another DEA report, released in October, said the 14% actually could be significantly higher.Poppy production in Afghanistan jumped significantly after the 2001 U.S. invasion destabilized an already shaky economy, leading farmers to turn to the opium market to survive. Not only is more heroin being produced from Afghan poppies coming into the United States, it is also the purest in the world, according to the DEA's National Drug Intelligence Center. Despite the agency's own reports, a DEA spokesman denied that more heroin was reaching the United States from Afghanistan. "We are NOT seeing a nationwide spike in Afghanistan-based heroin," Garrison K. Courtney wrote in an e-mail to The Times. He said in an interview that the report that showed the growth of Afghanistan's U.S. market share was one of many sources the agency used to evaluate drug trends. He refused to provide a copy of DEA reports that could provide an explanation. The agency declined to give The Times the report on the doubling of Afghan heroin into the U.S. A copy was provided by the office of U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a member of the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control.Read the highlighted parts together. What the fuck? Can we possibly get more ball-faced liars in high offices of the executive branch? I'd like to see Taft's record beat.[quote]From 1980 through 1985, Afghan heroin dominated the U.S. market, with a 47% to 54% share, according to the DEA. AFGHANISTAN'S share dwindled to 6% for much of the 1990s, as competition from Southeast Asia and Colombia grew. Meanwhile, the Taliban was cracking down as it gained territory, virtually eliminating poppy production after taking over the country. Once the fundamentalist Islamic government was overthrown in 2001, Afghans turned once again to the poppy trade to survive in one of the poorest countries in the world. A report released Nov. 28 by the World Bank said U.S. a

Furtherman

12-27-2006, 07:19 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: Nigerian traffickers They owe me a couple million!   Yerdaddy, you are replacing the BBC as my go to news source.  Well done!

DJEvelEd

12-27-2006, 07:41 AM

Fuck that heroin. Support Purdue Pharma!<img src="http://www.photogslounge.net/graphics2/limbaugh_drugs.jpg" border="0" width="288" height="419" />

Jughead

12-27-2006, 03:06 PM

sr71blackbird

12-27-2006, 03:23 PM

<img src="http://www.geocities.com/marvel_villain/galactus/galactus_feeds.jpg" border="0" width="400" height="466" />We need Galactus to go to the mideast and just abzorb all its life energy