Fox News looking at Daily Show rip-off [Archive]

epo

11-20-2006, 04:00 AM

I couldn't even <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i61fccc799efa3cb7cc70027d80722adf">make this shit up</a>.  I can't think of anything less hip than conservative "funny".

cupcakelove

11-20-2006, 04:19 AM

I wonder how many Hilary is a lesbian jokes they're going to do before this gets canned.

Yerdaddy

11-20-2006, 06:24 AM

I think Fox News is funny enough as it is.The title "This Just In" was scrapped after producers found out the name was being used by an HBO-AOL production. A new title has not been settled on.They're kicking around a few ideas:"A Barrell Full of Black People.""Laugh At It Or Leave It!""Roger Ailes' Dead Communist Jam""Late Night With Orrin Hatch""Look at my Bow-Tie!""Pin the Blame on the Donkey""Any Which Way But Left""I Dream of Jesus""Three's a Sin"  "Welcome Back, Bull Connor""Get Dumb""Fair and Ballanced"

boeman

11-20-2006, 06:39 AM

The most exciting thing for us will be that it's going to be fresh,"  Great idea... copy a 10 yerar old show and call it fresh.

foodcourtdruide

11-20-2006, 06:55 AM

"It would take aim at what Surnow calls "the sacred cows of the left" that don't get made as much fun of by other comedy shows."Yeah, the Clinton's never get made fun of. I don't think humor will work on the FOXNEWS channel. They rely on fear and hatred to increase viewers.

epo

11-20-2006, 03:21 PM

cupcakelove wrote: I wonder how many Hilary is a lesbian jokes they're going to do before this gets canned. How many can you fit into thirty minutes?

spoon

11-20-2006, 03:42 PM

Oh god I hope this happens bc as Yerdaddy said, fox news is already funny!  Can you just imagine the comedy that would go down!!

keithy_19

11-21-2006, 07:54 PM

I won't watch it, but I don't like the Daily Show. John Stewart seems very pretentious. I also got deja vu writing this. Somone call Denzel.

johnniewalker

11-22-2006, 10:47 AM

keithy_19 wrote: I won't watch it, but I don't like the Daily Show. John Stewart seems very pretentious. I also got deja vu writing this. Somone call Denzel. I'm kinda with you, theres something about a studio audience cheering on Stewart's opinion and jeering others when he has on controversial guests that eats at me.  Its not really a debate in that atmosphere, its more like you and 300 people shouting the other person down.

BYOBKenobi

11-22-2006, 11:40 AM

being a conservative, I'm looking forward to this if they do it exactly the same as the daily show but tilt it the other way like they are saying they are going to do.I do watch the daily show, but it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints.  Why?  Because I feel like I am having my intelligence insulted over and over watching The Daily Show.  Anytime they make fun of a conservative doing anything it feels like they are making fun of the voters who put them there.  Sure, I'm being over sensative, but I think someone who is conservative AND funny would be a good thing for the conservative image.

phixion

11-22-2006, 12:50 PM

it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints hey you've got dennis miller............................. wait.......... no

johnniewalker

11-22-2006, 12:57 PM

phixion wrote:   it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints  hey you've got dennis miller............................. wait.......... no Tucker Carlson does his act with a pretty funny bowtie.

ChimneyFish

11-22-2006, 01:28 PM

johnniewalker wrote: phixion wrote:  it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints   hey you've got dennis miller............................. wait.......... no Tucker Carlson does his act with a pretty funny bowtie. I just came up with a "fresh, new" idea........Tucker Carlson's Playhouse!!!!"Hi Chairy!!!! Hi Floory!!!! Hi Conky!!! Hi Magic Screen!!!!Todays secret word is........crude oil!!!!"

BYOBKenobi

11-22-2006, 01:46 PM

Well, there aren't a lot of things on tv that are funny/entertaining that can't be called a ripoff of something else... or at least 100% inspired by something else?

Yerdaddy

11-22-2006, 02:28 PM

BYOBKenobi wrote: being a conservative, I'm looking forward to this if they do it exactly the same as the daily show but tilt it the other way like they are saying they are going to do.I do watch the daily show, but it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints.  Why?  Because I feel like I am having my intelligence insulted over and over watching The Daily Show.  Anytime they make fun of a conservative doing anything it feels like they are making fun of the voters who put them there.  Sure, I'm being over sensative, but I think someone who is conservative AND funny would be a good thing for the conservative image.You feel personally offended when a comedy show makes fun of polititians. You actually are concearned about the "image" of conservatism. Why is identifying with a political ideology that important?

jax

11-22-2006, 02:35 PM

Reading this thread title I can't help but think of Air America Radio.  I may be way off  but I feel like the left can't do Limbaugh-esque radio with any degree of success and the right can't pull off Daily Show type comedy. 

BYOBKenobi

11-22-2006, 05:06 PM

Yerdaddy wrote: BYOBKenobi wrote: being a conservative, I'm looking forward to this if they do it exactly the same as the daily show but tilt it the other way like they are saying they are going to do.I do watch the daily show, but it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints.  Why?  Because I feel like I am having my intelligence insulted over and over watching The Daily Show.  Anytime they make fun of a conservative doing anything it feels like they are making fun of the voters who put them there.  Sure, I'm being over sensative, but I think someone who is conservative AND funny would be a good thing for the conservative image.You feel personally offended when a comedy show makes fun of polititians. You actually are concearned about the "image" of conservatism. Why is identifying with a political ideology that important? I have no problem putting politicians on blast, but when it immediately turns from "this guy made a mistake" to "red state people are stupid" I take it personally.  Maybe you're right though... maybe I'm just trying to identify with something.  I don't really know.

epo

11-22-2006, 05:22 PM

BYOBKenobi wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: BYOBKenobi wrote: being a conservative, I'm looking forward to this if they do it exactly the same as the daily show but tilt it the other way like they are saying they are going to do.I do watch the daily show, but it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints.  Why?  Because I feel like I am having my intelligence insulted over and over watching The Daily Show.  Anytime they make fun of a conservative doing anything it feels like they are making fun of the voters who put them there.  Sure, I'm being over sensative, but I think someone who is conservative AND funny would be a good thing for the conservative image.You feel personally offended when a comedy show makes fun of polititians. You actually are concearned about the "image" of conservatism. Why is identifying with a political ideology that important? I have no problem putting politicians on blast, but when it immediately turns from "this guy made a mistake" to "red state people are stupid" I take it personally.  Maybe you're right though... maybe I'm just trying to identify with something.  I don't really know.Also you might want to note that throughout the history of comedy there are very few conservative comedians that actually succeed and few that share their views.  Honestly there is nothing funny about "the status quo is great".

BYOBKenobi

11-22-2006, 06:02 PM

epo wrote: Also you might want to note that throughout the history of comedy there are very few conservative comedians that actually succeed and few that share their views.  Honestly there is nothing funny about "the status quo is great".  Well, a comedian with a conservative slant can be funny... Jim Norton is a great comedian and LEANS right.  Same with Anthony.  Why couldn't a funny concervative comedian goof on the news?  It doesn't mean he has to be like "I LOVE SMALLER GOVERNMENT!"  But it does mean that he can make fun of stupid stuff the left does once and a while just like the daily show isn't a "WE ARE PRO CHOICE!  RAWR!" show.  They goof on everything and also tease the right when they screw up.What I think has been missing in that vein is a "daily show" that doesn't have a side.  You're not going to get that from john stewart or colbert, but if a new show came out that was in the same spirit but didn't take a side that would be the best solution... but I'd take a conservative leaning comedian having a news wrapup show.

lleeder

11-22-2006, 07:14 PM

BYOBKenobi wrote: epo wrote: Also you might want to note that throughout the history of comedy there are very few conservative comedians that actually succeed and few that share their views.  Honestly there is nothing funny about "the status quo is great".  Well, a comedian with a conservative slant can be funny... Jim Norton is a great comedian and LEANS right.  Same with Anthony.  Why couldn't a funny concervative comedian goof on the news?  It doesn't mean he has to be like "I LOVE SMALLER GOVERNMENT!"  But it does mean that he can make fun of stupid stuff the left does once and a while just like the daily show isn't a "WE ARE PRO CHOICE!  RAWR!" show.  They goof on everything and also tease the right when they screw up.What I think has been missing in that vein is a "daily show" that doesn't have a side.  You're not going to get that from john stewart or colbert, but if a new show came out that was in the same spirit but didn't take a side that would be the best solution... but I'd take a conservative leaning comedian having a news wrapup show.Jim Norton gets blow by transexual hookers and admits to it, I doubt thats the demographic they're aiming for.

Don Stugots

11-22-2006, 07:21 PM

yeah, cause when i think funny, i think uptight, narrow minded white people.

BYOBKenobi

11-22-2006, 11:10 PM

well, again... Jim Norton and Anthony Cumia are right leaning comedians.  They are both not anywhere near your description, stu

Yerdaddy

11-23-2006, 01:38 AM

BYOBKenobi wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: BYOBKenobi wrote: being a conservative, I'm looking forward to this if they do it exactly the same as the daily show but tilt it the other way like they are saying they are going to do.I do watch the daily show, but it sucks that you can't find many funny people with conservative viewpoints.  Why?  Because I feel like I am having my intelligence insulted over and over watching The Daily Show.  Anytime they make fun of a conservative doing anything it feels like they are making fun of the voters who put them there.  Sure, I'm being over sensative, but I think someone who is conservative AND funny would be a good thing for the conservative image.You feel personally offended when a comedy show makes fun of polititians. You actually are concearned about the "image" of conservatism. Why is identifying with a political ideology that important? I have no problem putting politicians on blast, but when it immediately turns from "this guy made a mistake" to "red state people are stupid" I take it personally.  Maybe you're right though... maybe I'm just trying to identify with something.  I don't really know.As a recovering liberal ideologogue, I can understand the appeal of identifying with a political ideology. Being centered around politics it can take on the importance of all the issues that involves politics - in other words, just about everything. It's easy to confuse the importance of ideology with the importance of the issues it addresses. In fact that's how ideologies work in a mass communication and market-driven society like ours; they try to bring people into their "camp" by appealing to passions and painting a picture of one "side" being right and good and the other "side" being wrong and evil. They create a war metaphor for politics and that compels people to fight for it believing they're attatched to a noble cause for the preservation of America, or a way of life, or a set of human values. The issues and what they mean to real people in real life become merely recruiting tools and motivational propaganda when they should be the purpose of political involvement. The "war" ideologues feel like they're fighting becomes more important than researching and weighing the merits of an issue objectively. "IT"S WAR DAMMIT! You don't have time to read all those other sources of information! I'll tell you what they say!" Both ideologies depend on that tactic as well as that war metaphor. And, as soon as you buy into the war metaphor you don't have time to think for yourself. It's just like in an article I posted a few days ago about soldiers in Iraq learning about Rumsfeld's resignation from an Iraqi who's house they were basing themselves in. They didn't have time for the politics of the war because in order to not die they had to keep focussed on their training and their environment. They're in a real war, and that's what it's like. But ideology is not a real war. It pretends to be a real war in order to keep you focussed on what they say; to keep you in the "camp".But war is too important to be left to the passions. So are the issues that require political attention. Ever been the victim of some small crime - like having your stereo stolen from your car? When you first discover it you literally want to kill the guy who did it. But if I ask you now if we should give the death penalty to car stereo theives you'd, hopefully, say no way. Ideology's job is to get you into that state of passion and keep you there. And it works because passion motivates better than "come look at these cost-benefit reports on this piece of legislation". B