Need some help with the ladies

[BrianD]

Is there any effective ways, or any at all... to change a relationship with a girl from being good friends to being mroe than that. I mean, im sure this happens to a lot of people, but for me, it seems like all the girls i would like to get with turn out to be my "good friend" in the end. Can anyone help me out with this, or ways to prevent this from happening.

[PapaBear]

You're the "nice guy". Be a jerk every now and then.

[burrben]

<strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p>you're 100% right. i just get really drunk around them and it all seems to work itself out, one way or another</p>

[Fez4PrezN2008]

<p>Need to know more about your symptoms before we can cure your ailment... Background please... </p><p>(you'll barely regret this, i promise)</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>BrianD</strong> wrote:<br />Is there any effective ways, or any at all... to change a relationship with a girl from being good friends to being mroe than that. I mean, im sure this happens to a lot of people, but for me, it seems like all the girls i would like to get with turn out to be my &quot;good friend&quot; in the end. Can anyone help me out with this, or ways to prevent this from happening. <p>Don't waste your time on the girls that need a guy to be a jerk to appreciate them. They are completely devoid of logic and need a psychologist more than a boyfriend. </p><p>There are plenty of great girls that appreciate a nice guy. </p>

[PapaBear]

BTW... It's too late to be a jerk to the girls who are already your friends. They won't go for it. You have to start over with some new women.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />BTW... It's too late to be a jerk to the girls who are already your friends. They won't go for it. You have to start over with some new women.<p>&nbsp;its never too late for that.&nbsp; trust me, i managed to go from &quot;nice guy&quot; to &quot;perverted jerk&quot; in no time at all.&nbsp; i even managed to get laid by one or two of them.&nbsp; one thought she could bring the nice guy back if she didnt something nice for me. &nbsp; </p>

[Poochie]

<strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p><font size="2">I'm a lady and I gotta agree with Papa..good women don't want a guy they know they can walk all over.</font></p>

[Fezticle98]

<strong>Poochie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p><font size="2">I'm a lady and I gotta agree with Papa..good women don't want a guy they know they can walk all over.</font></p><p>Have you tried making any &quot;moves&quot; on them? It doesn't have to be anything spectacular, just be straightforward, strike at the right moment and try to get them into bed with you. Get the girl you like one on one and when the opportunity is there (alcohol is a plus) go in for the kiss, followed by makeout. If they are &quot;comfortable&quot; with you, this part might be easy at the right moment. Then, it is just a short leap to sexy time.</p>

[lintpit]

<font face="courier new,courier" size="2">O and A talked about a book one time. It was,i think, called &quot;The Game&quot;. Supposed to be the comprehensive 'players' guide.Might be a big help to you.</font>

[PapaBear]

<strong>Poochie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p><font size="2">I'm a lady and I gotta agree with Papa..good women don't want a guy they know they can walk all over.</font></p><p>You'll get it, when I decide to give it to you, Poochie.</p><p>*The preceding message was meant to be a guidline for Brian. I'm not trying to be a &quot;jerk&quot;.</p><p>That said... BEND OVER, BITCH!!!*<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" width="58" height="30" /></p>

[Poochie]

<strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Poochie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p><font size="2">I'm a lady and I gotta agree with Papa..good women don't want a guy they know they can walk all over.</font></p><p>You'll get it, when I decide to give it to you, Poochie.</p><p>*The preceding message was meant to be a guidline for Brian. I'm not trying to be a &quot;jerk&quot;.</p><p>That said... BEND OVER, BITCH!!!*<img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/drunk.gif" border="0" width="58" height="30" /></p><p>i'll take it from you any day Papa.</p><p>see Brian? assertive, and I responded positively</p>

[Grendel_Kahn]

<p>&nbsp;Here's a handy guise.&nbsp; From a superhero no less. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDBWwp_ZADo&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong>BrianD</strong> wrote:<br />Is there any effective ways, or any at all... to change a relationship with a girl from being good friends to being mroe than that. I mean, im sure this happens to a lot of people, but for me, it seems like all the girls i would like to get with turn out to be my &quot;good friend&quot; in the end. Can anyone help me out with this, or ways to prevent this from happening.Instead of trying to be &quot;nice&quot; (which nobody is all the time) try being yourself.&nbsp;Unless you're an asshole.&nbsp;I'll guess you're in your teens or twenties. Most guys have this problem at that age. The problem with being nice is it doesn't turn women on sexually. And a boyfriend means a sexual relationship to most women. That doesn't mean go to the other extreme and act like a jerk (even though that can actually work for a little while). It just means be confident, maybe even a little cocky and have a take it or leave it attitude. You need to set limits and forget the idea anyone is either too good for you or perfect. No such thing. Remember this. For every gorgeous babe there's a guy somewhere who's sick of banging her.&nbsp;<br /> Also, women in their 20's mostly just want to have fun. Go out and do the things you like and enjoy yourself doing them, and you'll find women will start approaching YOU. <br /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[El Mudo]

<strong>Poochie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p><font size="2">I'm a lady and I gotta agree with Papa..good women don't want a guy they know they can walk all over.</font></p> Now see, I can't agree with that. I consider myself an extremely nice and polite individual, and its just not in my nature to be a jerk. Is a girl really worth changing your personality completely to something you'd rather not be? I say no. That being said, there's definitely a line with the nice thing. There's a line between being a &quot;nice&quot; guy and just being a pussy. There's a definite difference between the two, IMO. You can be a nice guy and not be a pussy. I think you can be a nice guy and not let people walk all over you.&nbsp; I am and I don't. <p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by El Mudo on 12-9-06 @ 1:15 PM</span>

[Sheeplovr]

<p><img src="http://www.comedycentral.com/images/ccmovies/people/headshots/o/Oneil_Patrice.jpg" border="0" width="150" height="215" /></p><p>listen to Patrice </p><p>for real </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Sheeplovr on 12-9-06 @ 1:18 PM</span>

[led37zep]

Once the chick calls you a friend you're done.&nbsp; I managed to turn one of my chick friends into a girlfriend but it took a lot of drunk nights of hooking up ad in the end it wasn't worth it.&nbsp; Sounds stupid but drink with her and let shit happen.&nbsp; just don't get drunk and give her the whole &quot;I like you speech&quot;

[keithy_19]

<p>I did the friends thing with practically every girl I liked. It never worked out the way I wanted it and it sucks. But, if you just wait around you'll find a girl, and be caring but not over the top caring. Just be there for her, while throwing in subtle hints, like putting your arm gently around her. A girl needs to know your intentions of wanting something more, but you have to do it in a constructive way. </p><p>Worst case scenario, find a girl with very religious parents and knock her up. She'll be yours for life. <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/thumbup.gif" border="0" width="38" height="20" /></p>

[Andomray]

...once you find a girl, don't be clingy.

[outlawfrank]

<p>Making it happen from friend status seems like a whole lot of work to me, all that reconditioning going on.&nbsp; But I do know this, it is your frame of mind that moment you meet someone.&nbsp; That moment you can travel down two roads, friendship or relationship.&nbsp; That is based on your attitude, we all know&nbsp;how to make&nbsp;friends, what is required.&nbsp; You don't really want anything from that person other than respect, good company, and someone who will bail you out of jail.&nbsp; That's it.&nbsp; But the relationship you need the attitude from the beginning &quot;I want more.&quot;&nbsp; You have to indicate that,&nbsp;however possible, without having to call your friend to bail you out&nbsp;of jail.&nbsp; What I mean is whoever the person is, they need to know themselves you want to see them naked, they in turn the same.&nbsp; Agressive, never wait for it to come to you, know what you want and make sure they know it.&nbsp; If it is a friend you will be making the choice, &quot;This friendship might blow up in my face.&quot;&nbsp; If it doesn't work things won't be the same.</p>

[reeshy]

In all seriousness, I was like you once....when I met my first wife....we had been friends for a long time.....but in in the meantime, I fell in love with her.....what I did was to tell to her I wnated to fuck her silly.....that was said in jest....she looked at me and said&quot; it's about time&quot;......we got married and then divoced.....now I'm fucking her again!!!!!!!!

[johnniewalker]

<strong>reeshy</strong> wrote:<br />In all seriousness, I was like you once....when I met my first wife....we had been friends for a long time.....but in in the meantime, I fell in love with her.....what I did was to tell to her I wnated to fuck her silly.....that was said in jest....she looked at me and said&quot; it's about time&quot;......we got married and then divoced.....now I'm fucking her again!!!!!!!!<p>&nbsp;That so funny, but soo true.&nbsp; It's almost always that first step or serious move that you have to make, otherwise it gets awkward and your out before you even had a chance.&nbsp; It takes a lot of balls and good timing, but you only have a short window of time. </p>

[Poochie]

<strong>El Mudo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Poochie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PapaBear</strong> wrote:<br />You're the &quot;nice guy&quot;. Be a jerk every now and then. <p><font size="2">I'm a lady and I gotta agree with Papa..good women don't want a guy they know they can walk all over.</font></p>Now see, I can't agree with that. I consider myself an extremely nice and polite individual, and its just not in my nature to be a jerk. Is a girl really worth changing your personality completely to something you'd rather not be? I say no.That being said, there's definitely a line with the nice thing. <strong>There's a line between being a &quot;nice&quot; guy and just being a pussy. There's a definite difference between the two, IMO. You can be a nice guy and not be a pussy. I think you can be a nice guy and not let people walk all over you.&nbsp; I am and I don't. </strong><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by El Mudo on 12-9-06 @ 1:15 PM</span> <p>i agree with that..i didn't explain fully i suppose.</p>

[BrianD]

Thanks, ill try to apply all this advice to the next girl that i meet that i want to have a relationship with.

[dotsncoms]

we can't do fucking shit without a picture! what do you look like?