Motherfuckin' Thieves

[EliSnow]

<p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">So I'm listening to the show, and suddenly my wife calls to let me know that her wallet was stolen while she was at a &quot;Mommy and Me&quot; class with our daughter.&nbsp; She's practically in tears, and due to her emotional state, is unable to do anything.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd like to spend time to console her, but I had to be the practical one to tell her things that need to be done immediately.&nbsp; </font></p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">So I had to tell her to go to the bank immediately to cancel her debit card.&nbsp; Meanwhile I called up American Express to cancel her card, and they already have four charges on it for over $2k.&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Finally, she gets to the bank, and they tell her that she needs to open a new checking account with new checks, etc.&nbsp; As a result, I have to redo my direct deposit at work, change multiple e-payment set-ups at various utilities, cell phone company, student loan companies, etc.&nbsp; Plus, several bona fide checks that were sent out will have to be sent with the new checks.</font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Plus, her social security card was in the wallet as well.&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Fuckin' assholes.&nbsp; I assume we should report this to the cops.&nbsp; Anyone else have thoughts as to what needs to be done? </font></p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>Yes, youll need a police report to get her new social security card.</p><p>You should also call the three major credit bureaus, with your police report #, so that if anyone tries to open any NEW accounts under your wife's name/ss number, theyll be stopped. </p><p>The police report should be made at the precinct in which the theft occurred. </p><p>The crime youve described is Grand Larceny, which is a felony.</p><p>Also, if her driver's license was also taken, she'll need a special form from the police for the dmv, its called an mv-78b, but if you just ask the officer for the dmv form, he'll know what it is. You need to present this form to dmv when applying for the replacement license.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> <span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChrisTheCop on 1-10-07 @ 4:24 PM</span>

[PhishHead]

<strong>EliSnow</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">So I'm listening to the show, and suddenly my wife calls to let me know that her wallet was stolen while she was at a &quot;Mommy and Me&quot; class with our daughter. She's practically in tears, and due to her emotional state, is unable to do anything. I'd like to spend time to console her, but I had to be the practical one to tell her things that need to be done immediately. </font></p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">So I had to tell her to go to the bank immediately to cancel her debit card. Meanwhile I called up American Express to cancel her card, and they already have four charges on it for over $2k. </font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Finally, she gets to the bank, and they tell her that she needs to open a new checking account with new checks, etc. As a result, I have to redo my direct deposit at work, change multiple e-payment set-ups at various utilities, cell phone company, student loan companies, etc. Plus, several bona fide checks that were sent out will have to be sent with the new checks.</font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Plus, her social security card was in the wallet as well. </font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">Fuckin' assholes. I assume we should report this to the cops. Anyone else have thoughts as to what needs to be done? </font></p><p>&nbsp;find the people and beat their ass?</p><p>Call the cops file a report just to have it on record.</p><p>Did she have her health insurance cards in there too? Need to get new ones of those. &nbsp;</p>

[Furtherman]

Sorry to hear this.&nbsp; I don't know what a Mommy and Me class is, but whoever runs it should be notified.&nbsp;

[patsopinion]

<p>Q to law enforcement-</p><p>what are the odds that these people actually get tracked at all.</p><p>If a police report is filed do they actually go after them.</p><p>Its not that I think police are lazy but I mean do they even have the man power to track these bastards?&nbsp;</p>

[EliSnow]

<strong>Furtherman</strong> wrote:<br />Sorry to hear this.&nbsp; I don't know what a Mommy and Me class is, but whoever runs it should be notified.&nbsp; <p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">It's sort of a organized play session for mothers and young children (from several months old to several years).&nbsp;&nbsp; An employee leads the session, and they may listen to music, or play with toys, etc.</font></p><p><font face="Arial" size="3">My wife has notified them of the theft.&nbsp; She thinks it's one of the employees.&nbsp; </font></p>

[EliSnow]

<strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Yes, youll need a police report to get her new social security card.</p><p>You should also call the three major credit bureaus, with your police report #, so that if anyone tries to open any NEW accounts under your wife's name/ss number, theyll be stopped. </p><p>The police report should be made at the precinct in which the theft occurred. </p><p>The crime youve described is Grand Larceny, which is a felony.</p><p>Also, if her driver's license was also taken, she'll need a special form from the police for the dmv, its called an mv-104, but if you just ask the officer for the dmv form, he'll know what it is. You need to present this form to dmv when applying for the replacement license.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by ChrisTheCop on 1-10-07 @ 3:37 PM</span> <p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Thanks Chris.&nbsp; This is very helpful.&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></p>

[EliSnow]

<p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Edit:&nbsp; My wife found the right precinct.&nbsp; Unfortunately, we have to have a print-out of the American Express charges to file the report.</font></p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by EliSnow on 1-10-07 @ 4:18 PM</span>

[Judge Smails]

<p>Sorry to hear that.&nbsp; </p><p>Let this serve as a lesson to anyone reading this:&nbsp; Don't carry your Social Security card in your wallet.&nbsp; Take it from someone who's had his wallet stolen and had to jump through hoops to get a new one.&nbsp; And even when you get it, you still have to worry that the assholes who now have your number and card might run some kind of identity theft scam on you.&nbsp; There's no need to carry your SS card with you unless you are starting a new job that day and need to provide to the HR Dept.</p>

[Zorro]

<strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Yes, youll need a police report to get her new social security card.</p><p>You should also call the three major credit bureaus, with your police report #, so that if anyone tries to open any NEW accounts under your wife's name/ss number, theyll be stopped. </p><p>The police report should be made at the precinct in which the theft occurred. </p><p>The crime youve described is Grand Larceny, which is a felony.</p><p>Also, if her driver's license was also taken, she'll need a special form from the police for the dmv, its called an<font style="background-color: #ffff00"> mv-104</font>, but if you just ask the officer for the dmv form, he'll know what it is. You need to present this form to dmv when applying for the replacement license.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by ChrisTheCop on 1-10-07 @ 3:37 PM</span> <p>Chris...mv-104 is an accident report.&nbsp;</p>

[phixion]

<p>compltely unrelated, when i took my learners permit test, some lady there in charge said my social security card was an old one and id have to get a new one. so i end up having to go to flushing go to the building wait in line get told my social security card was fine and that the woman was wrong for taking my card and keeping it. so i go back to the dmv on rockaway blvd right near jfk, and have to wait in line all over again fill out forms and wait my turn to take the test. as soon as i finish the test and hand it in the same woman says to me, i didnt have to wait in line.&nbsp;</p><p>sorry eli &nbsp;</p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<p>right you are zorro. my apologies, its a mv-78b...but thats why most of us just call it &quot;the dmv form&quot;. </p><p>(ive edited my prior post to include the correct info...i'm so ashamed)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and to answer PatsOpinion, Grand Larceny is taken very seriously by the nypd, as is identity theft. It is one of our &quot;7 major crimes&quot; that have to be answered for by all precinct c.o.'s every month. So, yes, this will be investigated. How far that investigation goes depends on how far it can go. A detective will be assigend to Mrs Snow's case. He will check to see where the $2,000 in charges were made, if there were cameras there, or at the mommy and me, and he will be alerted should the cards be attempted to be used again. I have no stats on how often this leads to an arrest, but I do know that it occasionally does. And it occasionally doesnt.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by ChrisTheCop on 1-10-07 @ 4:31 PM</span>

[PhishHead]

<p>I know this seems like a trivial matter&nbsp; but im bringing it up twice because i had it affect me</p><p>Insurance Cards</p><p>Someone stole my wallet with my insurance cards and I guess used them or sole them to someone because all these charges showed up and I was being charged for things they would have billed later for, it was absurd. Luckily everything was fine in the end but still for awhile it sucked. &nbsp;</p>

[EliSnow]

<strong>PhishHead</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I know this seems like a trivial matter&nbsp; but im bringing it up twice because i had it affect me</p><p>Insurance Cards</p><p>Someone stole my wallet with my insurance cards and I guess used them or sole them to someone because all these charges showed up and I was being charged for things they would have billed later for, it was absurd. Luckily everything was fine in the end but still for awhile it sucked. &nbsp;</p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Yeah, I called my health insurance company (which actually is the company I work for), and they said they can't cancel an insurance card or change my subscriber number.&nbsp; Instead, I just need to keep my eyes out for any charges that aren't right and let them know.</font></p>

[furie]

why the fuck would she carry a social security card? that should be locked up with the birth certificates and other important documents.

[Jughead]

I think everyone has about covered it but, sorry ELI... it happened to you and your wife....&nbsp; Hope everything works out&nbsp; for ya.......Fucking Thieves!!

[PhishHead]

<strong>EliSnow</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>PhishHead</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I know this seems like a trivial matter but im bringing it up twice because i had it affect me</p><p>Insurance Cards</p><p>Someone stole my wallet with my insurance cards and I guess used them or sole them to someone because all these charges showed up and I was being charged for things they would have billed later for, it was absurd. Luckily everything was fine in the end but still for awhile it sucked. </p><p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">Yeah, I called my health insurance company (which actually is the company I work for), and they said they can't cancel an insurance card or change my subscriber number. Instead, I just need to keep my eyes out for any charges that aren't right and let them know.</font></p><p>&nbsp;wow really?? </p><p>My insurance company cancelled it and faxed me a temporary one(emergencies) and then overnighted a new one with new numbers and stuff it was pretty cool.</p><p>See they dont care about you cause technically you are an employee not a customer</p><p>I hope everything works out though and nothing too major happens. Good luck Eli.&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>right you are zorro. my apologies, its a mv-78b...but thats why most of us just call it &quot;the dmv form&quot;. </p><p>(ive edited my prior post to include the correct info...i'm so ashamed)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and to answer PatsOpinion, Grand Larceny is taken very seriously by the nypd, as is identity theft. It is one of our &quot;7 major crimes&quot; that have to be answered for by all precinct c.o.'s every month. So, yes, this will be investigated. How far that investigation goes depends on how far it can go. A detective will be assigend to Mrs Snow's case. He will check to see where the $2,000 in charges were made, if there were cameras there, or at the mommy and me, and he will be alerted should the cards be attempted to be used again. I have no stats on how often this leads to an arrest, but I do know that it occasionally does. And it occasionally doesnt. </p> <span class="post_edited"><br /></span><p>Here's what I dont get Chris. If someone is using a stolen credit card, shouldn't that card get flagged as &quot;stolen&quot; immediately after she reports it. And then if they try to make another charge (and if you report it quickly they will) the cashier can call security, hit the alarm, report a robbery in progress in some fashion. It would seem to me that a credit card would be a great way to catch thieves in the act, and yet you rarely hear about it It seems the credit card companies write it off as a cost of doing business and just charge the rest of us more in interest as a result. &nbsp; </p>

[FUNKMAN]

can't really help out,&nbsp;just sorry to hear about your trouble. life is stressful enough without adding this to it

[sr71blackbird]

<p>On the back of all my credit cards I have written &quot;ASK FOR PHOTO ID&quot; written, instead of a signature, and I made photocopies of these cards and keep the copies at home.&nbsp; </p><p>I had my bank add something to my account that requires me to be asked to give a code word for every withdrawal or bank inquiry.</p><p>I made copies of all my cards, license, etc in my wallet so that if I do lose it, I have the account numbers.</p>

[ChrisTheCop]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>ChrisTheCop</strong> wrote:<br /><p>right you are zorro. my apologies, its a mv-78b...but thats why most of us just call it &quot;the dmv form&quot;. </p><p>(ive edited my prior post to include the correct info...i'm so ashamed)</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>and to answer PatsOpinion, Grand Larceny is taken very seriously by the nypd, as is identity theft. It is one of our &quot;7 major crimes&quot; that have to be answered for by all precinct c.o.'s every month. So, yes, this will be investigated. How far that investigation goes depends on how far it can go. A detective will be assigend to Mrs Snow's case. He will check to see where the $2,000 in charges were made, if there were cameras there, or at the mommy and me, <strong>and he will be alerted should the cards be attempted to be used again</strong>. I have no stats on how often this leads to an arrest, but I do know that it occasionally does. And it occasionally doesnt. </p> <span class="post_edited"><br /></span><p>Here's what I dont get Chris. If someone is using a stolen credit card, shouldn't that card get flagged as &quot;stolen&quot; immediately after she reports it. And then if they try to make another charge (and if you report it quickly they will) the cashier can call security, hit the alarm, report a robbery in progress in some fashion. It would seem to me that a credit card would be a great way to catch thieves in the act, and yet you rarely hear about it It seems the credit card companies write it off as a cost of doing business and just charge the rest of us more in interest as a result. </p><p>&nbsp;the answer to your question was already in there, but thieves who end up using the cards pretty much know to use them the 1st hour or so&nbsp; and then never again. But youre last sentence is probably true, to which i'd add that many stores dont have adequate security to hold such a person and we sometimes just get the useless card back. I like someone's suggestion above to write &quot;PLEASE ASK FOR PHOTO ID&quot; instead of signing the card, but again, its up to the store to enforce this. </p>