Huge Anti war Rally in DC 1/27

[WRESTLINGFAN]

<p>hundreds of thousands have rallied in DC in response to the Iraq War.&nbsp; There have been alot of Politicians such as Russ Feingold and John Conyers to de fund the war</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/492313p-414737c.html">http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/492313p-414737c.html</a></p>

[cupcakelove]

I like how the article you linked to attempts to make anit-US 'Hanoi' Jane Fonda like look the sole leader of this thing.&nbsp; Everything I've read about it so far, which includes newsletters from various groups that are participating, just lists her as one of the celeberties that will be there.&nbsp; I might show up, I'm moving pretty slow today and I actually have things to do.

[foodcourtdruide]

There was this great piece on Open Source about how the media downplays protests. I think it's totally true.

[FezPaul]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br />There was this great piece on Open Source about how the <strong>media downplays protests</strong>. I think it's totally true. <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier" size="2">It's on C-Span, what else do you want?? <img src="/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" width="20" height="20" />&nbsp;Besides, if they show the protest it's less time for Paris Hilton.</font></strong></p>

[led37zep]

My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today.&nbsp; Oddly enough he said he didn't get a warm welcome from the protesters.

[Tenbatsuzen]

<strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today. Oddly enough he said he didn't get a warm welcome from the protesters.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's like wearing a Yankee cap in Fenway park.&nbsp; Surprisingly enough, bigmouth overexagerrating liberals are one of the few sects of people I dislike more than bigmouth Red Sox/Patriots fans.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Midkiff]

republicans suck

[A.J.]

<strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today.&nbsp; <p>Is your friend The Brooklyn Brawler?</p>

[Fezticle98]

<strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today.&nbsp; Oddly enough he said he didn't get a warm welcome from the protesters. <p>My brother wanted to make a &quot;Vietnam Vets for Kerry&quot; t-shirt/bumpersticker for the last election with this guy's picture on it:</p><p>http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7852/giapbd4.jpg</p><p>While I don't agree with the sentiment, I think it's a brilliant idea</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>jdmidkiff</strong> wrote:<br />republicans suck <p><strong><font face="courier new,courier" size="2">Witty.</font></strong></p>

[sailor]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />I like how the article you linked to attempts to make anit-US 'Hanoi' Jane Fonda like look the sole leader of this thing. Everything I've read about it so far, which includes newsletters from various groups that are participating, just lists her as one of the celeberties that will be there. I might show up, I'm moving pretty slow today and I actually have things to do.<p>&nbsp;<font size="2">eh, they list her as leading it, but i don't take it as her being the sole leader.&nbsp; they say she <font size="2">&quot;</font></font><font size="2">will join a pack of celebrities at a D.C. protest.&nbsp; Actors Danny Glover, Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon are among the blue-ribbon list of speakers that also includes the Rev. Jesse Jackson.&quot;&nbsp; they also go on to name the organizer of it.&nbsp; the news is a tabloid-type paper, so of course they play up her name for recognition value, but it's not that big a deal. </font></p>

[Fezticle98]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today.&nbsp; <p>Is your friend The Brooklyn Brawler?</p><p>I'm pretty sure his friend is Rex Kramer.</p><p>http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8015/rexkramerho7.gif</p>

[Gvac]

Hell no I won't go!

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Those rallies accomplish jack shit politically. At least when the administration is as close-minded to outside opinion as this one. All the protests I participated in 2003 didn't delay the Iraq war by so much as a day. Maybe I'm just cynical. Or just seen it before. You choose.

[Don Stugots]

<p>now lets look at this for a minute with an open mind:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>a public gathering of people that want to voice their dislike for the President and his agenda.&nbsp; great.&nbsp; do they think that this will make a difference?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; will it?&nbsp; no way.&nbsp; you think he doesnt look at the polls?&nbsp; think he doesnt know that 28% of the people dont like him or the job his doing?&nbsp; he knows it, he just doesnt care.&nbsp; he is not clueless, just full of himself. </p>

[CofyCrakCocaine]

<p>He also publicly admitted he doesn't read any newspapers. Out of sight, out of mind. </p>

[sailor]

<strong>CofyCrakCocaine</strong> wrote:<br /><p>He also publicly admitted he doesn't read any newspapers. Out of sight, out of mind. </p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">anyone with so low an approval rating would say the same thing.&nbsp; like an unpopular ballplayer saying they don't hear the booing. </font></p>

[A.J.]

<strong>sailor</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>CofyCrakCocaine</strong> wrote:<br /><p>He also publicly admitted he doesn't read any newspapers. Out of sight, out of mind. </p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">anyone with so low an approval rating would say the same thing.&nbsp; like an unpopular ballplayer saying they don't hear the booing. </font></p><p>Has A-Rod been&nbsp;advising Dubya?</p>

[sailor]

<strong>A.J.</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>sailor</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>CofyCrakCocaine</strong> wrote:<br /><p>He also publicly admitted he doesn't read any newspapers. Out of sight, out of mind. </p><p> <font size="2">anyone with so low an approval rating would say the same thing. like an unpopular ballplayer saying they don't hear the booing. </font></p><p>Has A-Rod been advising Dubya?</p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">exactly who i had been thinking about.&nbsp; :)<br /></font></p>

[Dan 'Hampton]

<strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today. Oddly enough he said he didn't get a warm welcome from the protesters.<p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's like wearing a Yankee cap in Fenway park. Surprisingly enough, bigmouth overexagerrating liberals are one of the few sects of people I dislike more than bigmouth Red Sox/Patriots fans.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Yeah as opposed to those ingenious Yankee/Jets fans.&nbsp; Why do they think that people will give two shits about seeing over the hill celebrities.&nbsp; I really couldn't care less about Jane Fonda or Sean Penn. So I spent my afternoon watching V for Vendetta.&nbsp; Much better than wasting my time on that crap.&nbsp; NEITHER party speaks for the average American.&nbsp; SCREW THEM ALL </p>

[DarkHippie]

<strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today. Oddly enough he said he didn't get a warm welcome from the protesters. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's like wearing a Yankee cap in Fenway park. Surprisingly enough, bigmouth overexagerrating liberals are one of the few sects of people I dislike more than bigmouth Red Sox/Patriots fans.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Yeah as opposed to those ingenious Yankee/Jets fans.&nbsp; Why do they think that people will give two shits about seeing over the hill celebrities.&nbsp; I really couldn't care less about Jane Fonda or Sean Penn. So I spent my afternoon watching V for Vendetta.&nbsp; Much better than wasting my time on that crap.&nbsp; NEITHER party speaks for the average American.&nbsp; SCREW THEM ALL </p><p>Neither party represents the average american because the parties are made of people who have strong opinions and want to change things, where the average american just cares about him/herself and family.&nbsp; everything else is &quot;just a shame&quot;</p>

[Snacks]

<strong>DarkHippie</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>dschef</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Tenbatsuzen</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>led37zep</strong> wrote:<br />My friend went jobbing on the Mall in a pro Bush shirt today. Oddly enough he said he didn't get a warm welcome from the protesters. <p>&nbsp;</p><p>It's like wearing a Yankee cap in Fenway park. Surprisingly enough, bigmouth overexagerrating liberals are one of the few sects of people I dislike more than bigmouth Red Sox/Patriots fans.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;Yeah as opposed to those ingenious Yankee/Jets fans.&nbsp; Why do they think that people will give two shits about seeing over the hill celebrities.&nbsp; I really couldn't care less about Jane Fonda or Sean Penn. So I spent my afternoon watching V for Vendetta.&nbsp; Much better than wasting my time on that crap.&nbsp; NEITHER party speaks for the average American.&nbsp; SCREW THEM ALL </p><p><font style="background-color: #ffff00">Neither party represents the average american because the parties are made of people who have strong opinions and want to change things, where the average american just cares about him/herself and family.</font>&nbsp; everything else is &quot;just a shame&quot;</p><p>I couldnt agree more! </p>

[furie]

I think one reason why this war has continued fairly unabated has been the lack of protest & outrage.

[sr71blackbird]

I am pretty sure the terrorits are very happy to see us protest this war.&nbsp;

[TheMojoPin]

<strong>sr71blackbird</strong> wrote:<br />I am pretty sure the terrorits are very happy to see us protest this war.&nbsp; <p>SHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!&nbsp; EVERYONE BE QUIET AND MAYBE THEY WONT SEE US!!!</p>

[HBox]

<strong>sr71blackbird</strong> wrote:<br />I am pretty sure the <strong>terrorits</strong> are very happy to see us protest this war. <p><img src="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/313/nabiscoritzcrackersbox1jp4.jpg" border="0" /></p>

[sailor]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>sr71blackbird</strong> wrote:<br />I am pretty sure the <strong>terrorits</strong> are very happy to see us protest this war. <p><img src="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/313/nabiscoritzcrackersbox1jp4.jpg" border="0" /></p><p>&nbsp;<font size="2">post of the day!!<br /></font></p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br />There was this great piece on Open Source about how the media downplays protests. I think it's totally true. Oh please. Have you ever see the people at these rallies? Al Shapton, Communists and Socialists, angry fat ass hairy lesbians, stoners of all ages, and most of the rest look like they haven't bathed in ages. The bar scene from Star Wars would be an upgrade. The signs they carry are generally bumper sticker mentality, and those are the good ones. Every other banner has Bush with a Hitler mustache. Its the most extreme, radical political elements that show up for these things and the level of political discourse is abysmal.&nbsp; The last thing anyone against this war wants is some of the wackjobs at these rallies representing their point of view. Makes Bush look like a moderate and a genius by comparison.&nbsp; You should THANK the media for downplaying these protests, if in fact its occuring. Which I doubt seriously. <br /><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bulldogcakes]

<strong>furie</strong> wrote:<br />I think one reason why this war has continued fairly unabated has been the lack of protest &amp; outrage.I dont. We had protests of a million+ TWICE in NYC, plus others in DC and Bush went right along his merry way &quot;Staying the course&quot;. A course that everyone (even Bush) now admits was wrong, but the huge protests accomplished nothing.&nbsp; This war has continued because the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, and Bush is a Republican. You know what has affected the course of this war? The last election where the Republicans got their asses whooped. Had the same thing happened in 04, the war would lkely be over by now. &nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p>

[cougarjake13]

<strong>Don Stugots</strong> wrote:<br /><p>now lets look at this for a minute with an open mind:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>a public gathering of people that want to voice their dislike for the President and his agenda.&nbsp; great.&nbsp; do they think that this will make a difference?&nbsp; Yes.&nbsp; will it?&nbsp; no way.&nbsp; you think he doesnt look at the polls?&nbsp; think he doesnt know that 28% of the people dont like him or the job his doing?&nbsp; he knows it, he just doesnt care.&nbsp; he is not clueless, just full of himself. </p><p>you know what though</p><p>he's already been elected to his 2nd and final term so what relevance does poll numbers mean to him anymore ???</p><p>he does what he wants to or at least tries to and says fuck ya'll to those who disagree</p>

[HBox]

<strong>cougarjake13</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Don Stugots</strong> wrote:<br /><p>now lets look at this for a minute with an open mind:</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>a public gathering of people that want to voice their dislike for the President and his agenda. great. do they think that this will make a difference? Yes. will it? no way. you think he doesnt look at the polls? think he doesnt know that 28% of the people dont like him or the job his doing? he knows it, he just doesnt care. he is not clueless, just full of himself. </p><p>you know what though</p><p>he's already been elected to his 2nd and final term so what relevance does poll numbers mean to him anymore ???</p><p>he does what he wants to or at least tries to and says fuck ya'll to those who disagree</p><p>And that's certainly worked out wonderfully for us all.</p>

[TheMojoPin]

When do protests usually &quot;do&quot; anything?&nbsp; They exist as a public outlet of expression, opinion and emotion en masse.&nbsp; Anyone decrying them for not &quot;accomplishing something&quot; is tossing out the strawiest of strawmen.&nbsp; Nobody except the incredibly delusional&nbsp;expects&nbsp;any president to step outside and admit being wrong over a bunch of protests.

[PapaBear]

<p>Protests that worked:</p><p>The protests in Moscow, in August of 1991, caused the Soviet coup to fail, leading to the fall of the Soviet Union.</p><p>And on a smaller scale, the protests last year at Gallaudet University,&nbsp;got the Interim President of the school removed.</p>

[pennington]

<p>Much as she did in Viet Nam, I think Jane Fonda should go visit the enemy. I'm sure the Taliban would love to have a non-burka wearing loud opinionated&nbsp;female around.</p><p>And any protest that has Spicoli up front I can't&nbsp;take seriously.</p>

[Zorro]

<font size="2">It weren't no million man march...I'll tell ya that</font>

[Yerdaddy]

<strong>Bulldogcakes</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>furie</strong> wrote:<br />I think one reason why this war has continued fairly unabated has been the lack of protest &amp; outrage. I dont. We had protests of a million+ TWICE in NYC, plus others in DC and Bush went right along his merry way &quot;Staying the course&quot;. A course that everyone (even Bush) now admits was wrong, but the huge protests accomplished nothing.&nbsp; This war has continued because the Republicans controlled the House and Senate, and Bush is a Republican. You know what has affected the course of this war? The last election where the Republicans got their asses whooped. Had the same thing happened in 04, the war would lkely be over by now. &nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p><p>This is an accurate description of about half the crowd at a protest and about 95% of people interviewed by the press at a protest. However, the other half of the crowd is people like me who reluctantly associate with the crazy liberals to show our opposition to the war, simple as that. I usually used to go with my best friend the 91 gulf war vet (interviewed by R&amp;F a few years back)&nbsp;and we'd either fundraise for his <a href="http://www.epic-usa.org/" target="_blank">Iraq organization</a> or hang out with other vets on the sidelines. </p><p>Point is, there is no way to pidgeonhole the people at an anti-war protest. </p><p>I'm at the point though where I wouldn't be much interested in a march in Washington that didn't include storming the White House with pitchforks and torches. I mean what's the point?</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Yerdaddy on 1-30-07 @ 7:27 AM</span>