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riverofpiss

01-29-2007, 06:02 PM

I don't know if it was the worst push but WCW really pushed Glacier hard in about '96-97.  He had a crazy entrance and got a lot of exposure for a while but I don't think the fans ever caught on to the character.<a onclick="return fitsInWindow();"><img src="http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3563/05xg5.jpg" border="0" alt="img249/3563/05xg5.jpg" title="Click to visit ImageShack for Image Hosting!" width="300" height="353" /></a>

Fez4PrezN2008

01-29-2007, 06:04 PM

Worst Push ever...<img src="http://www.pushmusic.com/images/cd.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="200" />

epo

01-29-2007, 06:11 PM

The WWF/E has a long string of "big guys" who can't fucking wrestle that Vince gives pushes to.   From the Ultimate Warrior to Bobby Lashley it makes me wanna puke.

Team_Ramrod

01-29-2007, 06:14 PM

riverofpiss wrote: I don't know if it was the worst push but WCW really pushed Glacier hard in about '96-97.  He had a crazy entrance and got a lot of exposure for a while but I don't think the fans ever caught on to the character.<a onclick="return fitsInWindow();"><img src="http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3563/05xg5.jpg" border="0" alt="img249/3563/05xg5.jpg" title="Click to visit ImageShack for Image Hosting!" width="182" height="166" /></a>For some reason seeing this reminds me of Lance Storm. I think his only real push was with Steve Blackman when they were tagging and it wasn't even much of a push then.

CYYYFYYY

01-29-2007, 08:56 PM

<div>Mark Henry How you could say Lesner was not a well deserved Push shocks me. Also the Big Show deserved his push. Wrestling needs big guys</div>

Don Stugots

01-30-2007, 04:13 AM

cy, tell me why lesner needed to be pushed?  did he pay his dues with long hours on the road or on the indy circuit?  i dont think alot of guys will come up the hard way anymore.  I think the WWE way of "molding" "superstars" is the only way to make it.

Dougie Brootal

01-30-2007, 05:39 AM

how has this thread been here this long without anyone mentioning this guy?<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/91/CenaNewTitle.jpg" border="0" width="456" height="352" />

willisjackson

01-30-2007, 07:15 AM

douggrasso wrote: how has this thread been here this long without anyone mentioning this guy?<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/91/CenaNewTitle.jpg" border="0" width="456" height="352" />At least they waited on his push.  He jobbed for a while, then he did the rap thing to get popular, and then they pushed him.

Dougie Brootal

01-30-2007, 07:17 AM

willisjackson wrote: douggrasso wrote: how has this thread been here this long without anyone mentioning this guy?<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/91/CenaNewTitle.jpg" border="0" width="456" height="352" />At least they waited on his push.  He jobbed for a while, then he did the rap thing to get popular, and then they pushed him.  yeah, but they shouldve waited till he learned how to wrestle. but they dont care about older people like us, they market to the pre teens and they LOOOOOOVE this guy and his gimmick!

Earlshog

01-30-2007, 07:20 AM

riverofpiss wrote: I don't know if it was the worst push but WCW really pushed Glacier hard in about '96-97.  He had a crazy entrance and got a lot of exposure for a while but I don't think the fans ever caught on to the character.<a onclick="return fitsInWindow();"></a>ha ha the snow used to fall when he came out... I remember around the same time they tried to give Van Hamer a couple pushs.... its a wonder they went under... <img src="http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/hammer.jpg" border="0" width="320" height="240" />

Don Stugots

01-30-2007, 07:20 AM

if they waited till he learned to wrestle we would never have seen him on TV execpt for the JoB SQUAD.   now, thats a good idea. 

willisjackson

01-30-2007, 07:26 AM

yeah, but they shouldve waited till he learned how to wrestle. but they dont care about older people like us, they market to the pre teens and they LOOOOOOVE this guy and his gimmick!Gimmick is everything.  They push anyone with a catch phrase or a cool T-shirt.  The proof is the absolute worst push in the history of WWF/WWE...Eugene.  For 3-4 months he was closing Raw and going head to head with Triple H; now they can't book him in the undercard.

yomudder21

01-30-2007, 07:30 AM

Johnny Fairplay...................

Dougie Brootal

01-30-2007, 07:35 AM

Don Stugots wrote: if they waited till he learned to wrestle we would never have seen him on TV execpt for the JoB SQUAD.   now, thats a good idea.  hello! exactly!

RF Godfather

01-30-2007, 08:13 AM

El Gigante?

Tenbatsuzen

01-30-2007, 12:48 PM

Paul Roma, member of the Horsemen.

Don Stugots

01-30-2007, 01:16 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: Paul Roma, member of the Horsemen.  i was so pissed when they did that.  he was a jobber for life and they put him in the most elite unit in all of wrestling.  what were they thinking?  assholes.does van hammer look like mikey D?  i dont know what Mikey D looks like but that is how i picture him.

lleeder

01-30-2007, 01:20 PM

Don Stugots wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: Paul Roma, member of the Horsemen.  i was so pissed when they did that.  he was a jobber for life and they put him in the most elite unit in all of wrestling.  what were they thinking?  assholes.does van hammer look like mikey D?  i dont know what Mikey D looks like but that is how i picture him. The hair does

reillyluck

01-30-2007, 01:27 PM

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/The-619/Gillberg.jpgGiiiiiiiillllllllllbeerrrrrrrrrrrggggggggg!

Don Stugots

01-30-2007, 01:33 PM

reillyluck wrote: <img src="http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b254/The-619/Gillberg.jpg" border="0" />Giiiiiiiillllllllllbeerrrrrrrrrrrggggggggg! i loved Gillberg.  he had the Lite weight title.  it was perfect, plus he was a JOB squadder.  which is big with me.

CYYYFYYY

01-30-2007, 01:45 PM

<div>Yes, Lesner did not pay his dues but the fact of the matter is he was a big man who could wrestle, who never missed his spots. He was very talented so I did not mind him waiting years to get the belt. If you are talented why do you have to pay your dues. I would mention Goldberg over Lesner anyday even though I had no problem with Goldberg as well.</div>

Kevin

01-30-2007, 01:49 PM

phixion

01-30-2007, 01:55 PM

without question stone cold steve austin. i walk away from wwf and he couldnt beat savio vega in a fair match. i come backa year or so later hes champion of the fucking world.and cyyyfyyyy whats wrong with being catapulted to the top when you have talent? everything. bret hart had more talent than anyone in wrestling he paid his dues, he worked in the hart foundation earned his ic strap and then gained the heavy weight title.shawn michaels? the exact same thing only replace hart foundation with the rockers. im surprised taker hasnt come up yet, ilove the gimmick but he debuted at survivor series one year, the next hes taking the title off of hogan. talk about undeserved push.

cougarjake13

01-30-2007, 02:16 PM

i've only read lleeder's initial postbut this thread begins and ends withjohn cenai will now read the rest of the thread

lleeder

01-30-2007, 02:27 PM

phixion wrote: without question stone cold steve austin. i walk away from wwf and he couldnt beat savio vega in a fair match. i come backa year or so later hes champion of the fucking world.and cyyyfyyyy whats wrong with being catapulted to the top when you have talent? everything. bret hart had more talent than anyone in wrestling he paid his dues, he worked in the hart foundation earned his ic strap and then gained the heavy weight title.shawn michaels? the exact same thing only replace hart foundation with the rockers. im surprised taker hasnt come up yet, ilove the gimmick but he debuted at survivor series one year, the next hes taking the title off of hogan. talk about undeserved push. Taker may have gotten the belt fast but he never got to hold it for enough or for a long stretch of time. He has been the ultimate transitional champion. Alot of guys less deserving have held it longer and more times.

Don Stugots

01-30-2007, 02:48 PM

i always thought that the undertaker never really got his fair chance to carry the belt for a long time.  i would love to see him win the belt again at WM and then drop it or retire on top with it.  Smackdown could use the Taker holding the belt for a few months. 

cougarjake13

01-30-2007, 02:54 PM

Don Stugots wrote: i always thought that the undertaker never really got his fair chance to carry the belt for a long time.  i would love to see him win the belt again at WM and then drop it or retire on top with it.  Smackdown could use the Taker holding the belt for a few months.  unfortunately he showed up on raw last night and although he didnt say it yet he'll probably be facing cena and thus keeping his streak alive

Don Stugots

01-30-2007, 03:00 PM

cougarjake13 wrote: Don Stugots wrote: i always thought that the undertaker never really got his fair chance to carry the belt for a long time. i would love to see him win the belt again at WM and then drop it or retire on top with it. Smackdown could use the Taker holding the belt for a few months. unfortunately he showed up on raw last night and although he didnt say it yet he'll probably be facing cena and thus keeping his streak alive  i wouldnt mind that at all either.  if then this: he will fued with shawn from WM to SS leading up to WM next year to face HHH and drop the belt and the streak to him.  i know it will never happen but i would like it better than him losing the streak to batista.  now, i wont knock the guy for working hard but missed spots, undeserved push, not alot of talent, yet he has the belt and the most any here can say about him positively is well "he is philipino so i am behind my countrymen."  great.  ronnie garvin was my coutrymen (i think, he might have been canadian) but he still sucked Gillberg's balls.

riverofpiss

01-30-2007, 03:09 PM

RF Godfather wrote: El Gigante? The Giant Gonzalaz wore this retarded suit.  What a joke.  <a onclick="return fitsInWindow();"><img src="http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6434/11mk4.jpg" border="0" alt="img406/6434/11mk4.jpg" title="Click to visit ImageShack for Image Hosting!" width="254" height="404" /></a>

Tazz

01-30-2007, 06:32 PM

RVD in any federation. He is SO overrated. YAWN 

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 10:53 AM

CYYYFYYY wrote:  *>Yes, Lesner did not pay his dues but the fact of the matter is he was a big man who could wrestle, who never missed his spots. Gee, I seem to remember quite a big missed spot in the main event of the biggest PPV of the year.  Such a missed spot that Angle had to stall and cover his ass for at least a minute or two while Brock recovered.

ralphbxny

01-31-2007, 11:01 AM

Tenbatsuzen

01-31-2007, 11:12 AM

ralphbxny wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: CYYYFYYY wrote:  *>Yes, Lesner did not pay his dues but the fact of the matter is he was a big man who could wrestle, who never missed his spots. Gee, I seem to remember quite a big missed spot in the main event of the biggest PPV of the year.  Such a missed spot that Angle had to stall and cover his ass for at least a minute or two while Brock recovered. I swore he broke his neck when he missed that spot. I think we all jumped up out of our seats.That's the funny thing.  He hits that spot, it's a legendary WWE moment, like Shane-O's or Foley's bumps. He missed it, and it's on par with the Shockmaster and/or Sid, although Sid's spot was more cringey and not on as big a stage.  He just slipped off the top rope.

Bossanova

02-03-2007, 03:11 PM

Tazz wrote:  RVD in any federation. He is SO overrated. YAWN  I couldn't agree more, he even admits that he doesn't know how to carry a match. He just looks for the big spot, which he never cleanly hits.

mdr55

02-03-2007, 03:17 PM

The Armstrong brothers in WCW. I don't recall but I think they had a push but it only lasted one victory (I think) and they were back to traditional jobbers.

mdr55

02-03-2007, 03:23 PM

Rick "the Model" Martel.<img src="http://www.bsww.de/wrestler/bios/Rick-Martel.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="150" /> Christ he was the AWA Champion at one time and they gave him that gimmick? Thank goodness for Strikeforce and the Can-Am connection (I'm recalling these from the top of my head.)

Kevin

02-03-2007, 03:26 PM

Hulk Hogen... After i turned 10 and realized... he had 2 moves and the same catch phrases every week...

oh_kee_pa

02-03-2007, 03:44 PM

does anyone remember when the WWF had those boxing matches, and the other half of the Smoking Gunns won, anad he went on to face Butterball or Butterbean whatever it was at the ppv and got knocked the f out in like 30 seconds????<div> </div><div>that was an undeserved push anad it was obvious</div>

Bossanova

02-03-2007, 03:57 PM

Bob Impact

02-03-2007, 04:49 PM

Tenbatsuzen wrote: CYYYFYYY wrote:  *>Yes, Lesner did not pay his dues but the fact of the matter is he was a big man who could wrestle, who never missed his spots. Gee, I seem to remember quite a big missed spot in the main event of the biggest PPV of the year. Such a missed spot that Angle had to stall and cover his ass for at least a minute or two while Brock recovered. <a href="http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/brock_ssp.html"> Like this?</a>I like the fact that he was always respectful and ensured his opponents safety.  Like he does <a href="http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/brock_holly_neck.html">here.</a>  I still wouldn't say his push was undeserved, he was over, that's all that really matter in the end.

cougarjake13

02-04-2007, 06:36 AM

Bossanova wrote: <a href="http://null/wiki/Image:SpiritSquad_TagChamps.jpg" title="A picture of {{{current_name}}}."><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/26/SpiritSquad_TagChamps.jpg/200px-SpiritSquad_TagChamps.jpg" border="0" alt="A picture of {{{current_name}}}." width="200" height="154" /></a> this qualifies for the worst gimmick thread as well

Dash77

02-04-2007, 09:27 AM

What about the Deuce& Domino gimmick there running with now? I think that sucks.

Don Stugots

02-04-2007, 09:39 AM

Dash77 wrote: What about the Deuce& Domino gimmick there running with now? I think that sucks. i like them.  they remind me of people i grew up with up.  the finsher they use is the pits.  a boot to the head?  come on.

DarkHippie

02-04-2007, 12:04 PM

Bob Impact wrote: Tenbatsuzen wrote: CYYYFYYY wrote:  *>Yes, Lesner did not pay his dues but the fact of the matter is he was a big man who could wrestle, who never missed his spots. Gee, I seem to remember quite a big missed spot in the main event of the biggest PPV of the year. Such a missed spot that Angle had to stall and cover his ass for at least a minute or two while Brock recovered. <a href="http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/brock_ssp.html"> Like this?</a>I like the fact that he was always respectful and ensured his opponents safety.  Like he does <a href="http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/brock_holly_neck.html">here.</a>  I still wouldn't say his push was undeserved, he was over, that's all that really matter in the end. That was Holly's fault.  He struggled against the move instead of going with it and unbalanced Brock.  And Brock did mess up the Harlem Hangover, but he deserves credit for even trying that.  It would've been one of the great moments in wrestling.

Bob Impact

02-04-2007, 02:14 PM

I just read about that match and I gotta agree with you, Holly was being an asshole.

conman823

02-04-2007, 09:06 PM

Worst Push....Umaga. You have got to be kidding with this guy. he's the reason I stopped watching wrestling about 6 months ago. Also in the past, anyone they made Taker job for (Gonzales, Kamala, Papa Shango.etc)

conman823

02-04-2007, 09:07 PM

Oh and Hardcore Holly

tnbt23

02-05-2007, 07:39 AM

First of all, Brock did deserve his push. Sure, OVW isnt like the territories of old, but Corny and Danny Davis run a pretty tight ship down there. Brock, Orton, Shelton, and Batista all came up through that system. As far as Cena goes, he's paid his dues also. He trained at the same time as Samoa Joe out in california so dont let his current gimmick fool you. the guy can wrestle, you fickle-fantsy pants just hate his gimmick, but as long as it makes money does it really matter? As far as underserved pushes go the only one that i can currently think of is the Sprit Squad. Here, WWE shoves these guys down our throats for the whole summer and then decide that once that angle is done, they deem them "not ready" and ship them back to OVW. basically telling us that we wasted our time watching and/or getting behind these guys for a whole 6 months. All of those guys are really talented so finding something for them to do shouldnt be that hard. A push can only be called undeserved if both the company and the performer drop the ball and nobody benefits from the push at all.

Tazz

02-05-2007, 09:56 AM

How can I forget Jeff Jarrett and DDP as WCW world champions. No wonder they folded.

Knowledged_one

02-05-2007, 10:09 AM

Man Mountain RockShane McMahonTest (original HHH stole Stephanie thing)Mr. Perfect the one guy who deserved a push that never really got it

TjM

02-05-2007, 01:11 PM

douggrasso wrote: how has this thread been here this long without anyone mentioning this guy?<img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/9/91/CenaNewTitle.jpg" border="0" width="456" height="352" />HATER!! Don't be knocking the champ!

Bob Impact

02-05-2007, 01:32 PM

tnbt23 wrote: First of all, Brock did deserve his push. Sure, OVW isnt like the territories of old, but Corny and Danny Davis run a pretty tight ship down there. Brock, Orton, Shelton, and Batista all came up through that system. As far as Cena goes, he's paid his dues also. He trained at the same time as Samoa Joe out in california so dont let his current gimmick fool you. the guy can wrestle, you fickle-fantsy pants just hate his gimmick, but as long as it makes money does it really matter? As far as underserved pushes go the only one that i can currently think of is the Sprit Squad. Here, WWE shoves these guys down our throats for the whole summer and then decide that once that angle is done, they deem them "not ready" and ship them back to OVW. basically telling us that we wasted our time watching and/or getting behind these guys for a whole 6 months. All of those guys are really talented so finding something for them to do shouldnt be that hard. A push can only be called undeserved if both the company and the performer drop the ball and nobody benefits from the push at all.It seems like (from a casual wrestling fan's point of view) that happens A LOT these days.  Either WWE decides their not ready or that they need to get in shape AFTER they've been on TV for months and months.  Why not get them ready first, and THEN introduce them before they've had the chance to be hated for sucking.

mdr55

02-05-2007, 03:20 PM

Tazz wrote: How can I forget Jeff Jarrett and DDP as WCW world champions. No wonder they folded. BANG!!!!!!<img src="http://itsbeentime.blogspirit.com/images/medium_ddp.jpg" border="0" width="320" height="240" />  

This message was edited by mdr55 on 2-5-07 @ 7:28 PM

ponelas park townie

02-05-2007, 07:29 PM

WHO IS BETTA THAN KANYON?!?!<img src="http://www.wrestlebank.com/upload/adminprofilebook/CK.jpg" border="0" width="150" height="200" />

CruelCircus

02-05-2007, 10:39 PM

What's Brock Lesnar doing now?I read here that he's been in Japan.  Is his WWE bridge permanently burned?

tnbt23

02-06-2007, 03:49 AM

ponelas park townie wrote: WHO IS BETTA THAN KANYON?!?!<img src="http://www.wrestlebank.com/upload/adminprofilebook/CK.jpg" border="0" width="150" height="200" /> umm.... pretty much everyone... The REAL question is: WHO IS GAY-A THAN KANYON?!?!

WearNormaJeans

02-06-2007, 06:38 AM

WCW from when it moved from TBS to TNT until its demise. I never got into it at all once Nitro started.

The Nature Boy

02-06-2007, 01:02 PM

DDP didn't deserve his push, but he made the most of it and got over like a motherfucker.  The guy is not my cup of tea, but he's pure heart and hustle and determination and touch of politics but thats what this "sport" is so I can't take it away from him. One Man Gang's original WWF push did nothing for me.  He was Jerry Blackwell with a mohawk and some head tattoos and he ran roughshod for that first summer in the WWF.   Sid's second push was also harsh, the one after he turned on Michaels.  They basically totally buried Razor Ramon to have him job in lighting speed to Nash.  Sid could have been a real monster but was killed off too soon in that push and that was pretty much the end of him, despite main eventing a wrestlemania afterwards.  He was very much like the Big Show in he had a great build but nothing on the top of it.

Don Stugots

02-06-2007, 01:12 PM

i saw DDP the same way.  i actually lost some respect for him after reading his book but i have heard (online) some of his inspriational speeches and love them.  He did work his ass off and played the game backstage.  cant knock him for that, he learned from the best.    The Big Show was pushed too fast and never had the chance to come into his own.  plus, the WWE's constant battle with his weight.  The guy is a gaint, he has no control over his weight.  just back off and turn him loose.   Sid never deserved a push since he would quit every year to go play softball.

sleepyeyed_Jynx

02-10-2007, 12:58 PM

ortonumagacant think of anymore right now. id say cena, but they waited

BoondockSaint

02-10-2007, 06:06 PM

CruelCircus wrote: What's Brock Lesnar doing now?I read here that he's been in Japan.  Is his WWE bridge permanently burned? Last I heard he was actually training to be in K-1 or Pride.

cougarjake13

02-11-2007, 07:50 AM

BoondockSaint wrote: CruelCircus wrote: What's Brock Lesnar doing now?I read here that he's been in Japan.  Is his WWE bridge permanently burned? Last I heard he was actually training to be in K-1 or Pride.yeh that the last i remember hearing of him