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MrPink
02-05-2007, 04:59 PM
Today I went to court for an alcohol citation I got at a party back in September. I wore a nice suit, and brought a copy of my grades from last semester and my letter saying I was in the Dean's list. Didn't fuckin matter!! There was probably 70 people there from that party and from what I saw, everyone got the same sentence if it was their first offense. 10 hours of community service and a $100 fine and court fees suspended. There was a guy that went right before me who came late and wore jeans and a t-shirt who got the same deal. I don't fuckin get it. I learned a lesson today, theres no point to having your shit together, it's a waste of time and energy.

Doctor Z
02-05-2007, 05:16 PM
<p>Tell that to THIS guy!</p><p><img src="http://hosted.ap.org/photos/A/a03fd4ef-6e33-4b59-9e32-86e187bc7508-big.jpg" border="0" alt="OJ" title="OJ" width="429" height="502" />&nbsp;</p>

Team_Ramrod
02-05-2007, 05:18 PM
<p>No, if that's what you took away from it then you're missing out on a real lesson.</p><p>How many people do you think that judge, any judge sees on a daily basis who are scummy as hell? How many of those do you think get all dressed to impress (or decieve)? I'm not at all saying you are one of those.</p><p>The fact that you dressed up, had a letter from the Dean and it was only your first offense means nothing. The reason he gave you the same as he gave everyone else is because you were all there together.</p><p>So if you take away from this that you shouldn't try, shouldn't look respectable and shouldn't stay out of trouble then you're wrong.</p><p>What you should take out of this is if you don't want to get in shit, don't want to be lumped in with undesireable people and don't want to face the same repercussions as everyone else you should keep yourself out of those situations.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>On second thought, did you get a haircut too? That could have been the difference maker.</p>

MrPink
02-05-2007, 05:26 PM
<strong>The Midnight Ramrod</strong> wrote: <p>On second thought, did you get a haircut too? That could have been the difference maker.</p><p>My head's usually shaved so I let my hair grow out a little bit so I don't look like&nbsp;a skinhead.</p>

jetdog
02-05-2007, 05:30 PM
<strong>MrPink</strong> wrote:<br />Today I went to court for an alcohol citation I got at a party back in September. I wore a nice suit, and brought a copy of my grades from last semester and my letter saying I was in the Dean's list. Didn't fuckin matter!! <span style="background-color: #ffff00">There was probably 70 people there from that party and from what I saw, everyone got the same sentence</span> if it was their first offense. 10 hours of community service and a $100 fine and court fees suspended. There was a guy that went right before me who came late and wore jeans and a t-shirt who got the same deal. I don't fuckin get it. I learned a lesson today, theres no point to having your shit together, it's a waste of time and energy. Logistics man. how long do you think it would have taken them to decide on a case by case basis (even if that is what they are supposed to do)?&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;</p>

high fly
02-05-2007, 05:35 PM
<strong>MrPink</strong> wrote:<br />&nbsp;I don't fuckin get it. I learned a lesson today, theres no point to having your shit together, it's a waste of time and energy. <p>How about dressing properly because it is the right thing to do, rather than just to get something out of it?</p><p>Maybe the judge sensed your insincerity....&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

undressa
02-05-2007, 05:47 PM
<p>I have a former ada in my family and trust me it matters, u just got lumped in with the rest of the jug heads from the party, chin up please it could have been worse!</p><p>V</p>

narc
02-05-2007, 07:10 PM
<p>For something like underage drinking it doesn't matter - nobody's going to jail or anything like that and they most likely have someone who could testify they saw you have alcohol. I've been to district court plenty of times in the exact same situation. EVERYONE gets community service. Nothing you can possibly do. </p><p>If you had robbed or mugged someone, then the dean's list might have mattered. But for someone facing such a light charge, mitigating evidence doesn't matter. </p>

burrben
02-05-2007, 07:15 PM
<strong>MrPink</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>The Midnight Ramrod</strong> wrote: <p>On second thought, did you get a haircut too? That could have been the difference maker.</p><p>My head's usually shaved so I let my hair grow out a little bit so I don't look like&nbsp;a skinhead.</p><p>that was the right thing to do</p>

Jughead
02-05-2007, 07:21 PM
I am a judge.....HACK!!!!

Fez4PrezN2008
02-05-2007, 08:05 PM
<p>From the title of this thread, I was hoping it was someone that had&nbsp;the shits&nbsp;during court... Just think of how bad you would have felt if you wore your good suit and had that running down your leg in front of the judge. Now don't you feel better in retrospect?</p><p>Court is good... good for me to poop on.</p><p><img src="http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n293/JBphotojunk/triumph.jpg" border="0" width="177" height="150" /></p><p>I keed, I keed !</p>

Team_Ramrod
02-05-2007, 08:13 PM
<strong>jughead46041</strong> wrote:<br />I am a judge.....HACK!!!! <p>Yeah, Well this guy I know has 2 radio shows!!!!</p>

9mileskid
02-05-2007, 08:17 PM
<p>you should have postponed or plead not guilty so you could retun </p><p>another day. all the other defendants would have been&nbsp;done with their cases</p><p>and you would be able to talk to the prosecutor and possibly lower the fine and or time.</p><p>think next time son.</p>

Team_Ramrod
02-05-2007, 08:20 PM
<p>Good advice.</p><p>Where was it yesterday?</p>

johnniewalker
02-05-2007, 08:41 PM
<strong>narc</strong> wrote:<br /><p>For something like underage drinking it doesn't matter - nobody's going to jail or anything like that and they most likely have someone who could testify they saw you have alcohol. I've been to district court plenty of times in the exact same situation. EVERYONE gets community service. Nothing you can possibly do. </p><p>If you had robbed or mugged someone, then the dean's list might have mattered. But for someone facing such a light charge, mitigating evidence doesn't matter. </p><p>&nbsp;I think it varies quite a bit, I didn't get any community service for my underage.&nbsp; I had a similar experince in court though, i dressed up after getting busted at a party.&nbsp; I think the thing that stuck with me was the mastercard sign right next to the judge.&nbsp; It sounds cheesey, but it is just about money.&nbsp; It took seconds for the judge to go through the whole party.&nbsp; What do you plead, no contest, alright court cuts the fine in half and you go on your merry way.&nbsp; The worst part about it was the clerk who was a total bitch, and as you signed in she said &quot;Hope the party was worth it.&quot;&nbsp; Bitch.&nbsp; I don't know what 9mileskid is talking about at all.&nbsp; You are talking to a judge, there is no prosecuter.&nbsp; What are you going to have a jury trial?&nbsp; Come on.&nbsp; You most likely took a breathalizer right.&nbsp; At least i did or they have some proof of ingestion of alcohol.&nbsp; There's no point to dragging it out as its not that serious.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>

9mileskid
02-05-2007, 08:51 PM
<p>it's your right to have a jury trial for any offense your charged with in municipal</p><p>court,but that wasn't my point.by asking for a continuance or pleading not guilty </p><p>you would not be with the 70 or so ham and eggers with the same charges on the same day.</p><p>its to your advantage to seperate yourself from the others in that situation in my opinion</p>

narc
02-06-2007, 12:15 AM
<p>...with all due respect, that's just not the way it works in Maryland, which is where he is.</p><p>1. For this charge, you CAN'T have a jury trial - there's not enough of a punishment at stake.</p><p>2. For this charge, there IS a prosecutor present and you're not just dealing with a judge. The prosecutor's not going to want to waste his time with anything but a nominal fine and community service unless they're a total dick, but that's beside the point. I ran a red light this past summer and there was no prosecutor for that. </p><p>3. There would be absolutely no advantage to asking for a continuance because the penalty is so light. All asking for a continuance is likely to do is to piss off the judge. Really, though, continuances are discretionary anyway and for matters such as this there's no reason why they shouldn't be wrapped up tout de suite. </p><p>I will have to defer to his honor jughead though for exactly what a judge would think, but that's the way it pretty much works here. From someone who spent 8 months with the State's Attorney's Office. </p><p>From the way johnniewalker describes his citation, it almost sounds like it's a civil citation, which is what I had to do for running the red light. In fact it was under almost the exact same circumstances at court. It was under the traffic code. This offense is under the criminal code.&nbsp; </p> <span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by narc on 2-6-07 @ 4:19 AM</span>

MrPink
02-06-2007, 07:13 AM
<strong>The Midnight Ramrod</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Good advice.</p><p>Where was it yesterday?</p><p>District court in Cumberland.</p><p>Everyone plead guilty from what my buddy saw on the list. One thing that pissed me off was that the prosecutor said that the officer that wrote my citation &quot;asked if I would take a breathalyzer&quot;. He did not ask me, he told me to take it. I later found out that you can refuse to take one. I think that when kids turn 18, the government should send them a book that gives them their rights. </p>

9mileskid
02-06-2007, 08:04 AM
<p>i was going by what i know of new jersey court proceedings.</p><p>ifyou weren't driving why would you have to take a breathalyzer test</p>

MrPink
02-06-2007, 08:07 AM
<strong>9mileskid</strong> wrote:<br /><p>i was going by what i know of new jersey court proceedings.</p><p>ifyou weren't driving why would you have to take a breathalyzer test</p><p>The cops never actually saw us drinking so they wanted proof. </p>

riverofpiss
02-06-2007, 11:02 AM
<strong>MrPink</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>The Midnight Ramrod</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Good advice.</p><p>Where was it yesterday?</p><p>District court in Cumberland.</p><p>Everyone plead guilty from what my buddy saw on the list. One thing that pissed me off was that the prosecutor said that the officer that wrote my citation &quot;asked if I would take a breathalyzer&quot;. He did not ask me, he told me to take it. I later found out that you can refuse to take one. I think that when kids turn 18, the government should send them a book that gives them their rights. </p><p>It is nice to know your rights when you are dealing with the police.&nbsp; Police tend to try to do things the easy way, like telling you to do something instead of asking you to do it, especially with minors.</p>

riverofpiss
02-06-2007, 11:05 AM
<strong>Fez4PrezN2008</strong> wrote:<br /><p>From the title of this thread, I was hoping it was someone that had&nbsp;the shits&nbsp;during court... Just think of how bad you would have felt if you wore your good suit and had that running down your leg in front of the judge. Now don't you feel better in retrospect?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>That is what I thought of when I read the thread title too.</p>

Crispy123
02-06-2007, 11:13 AM
<strong>Fez4PrezN2008</strong> wrote:<br /><p>From the title of this thread, I was hoping it was someone that had the shits during court... Just think of how bad you would have felt if you wore your good suit and had that running down your leg in front of the judge. Now don't you feel better in retrospect?</p><p>Court is good... good for me to poop on.</p><p><img src="http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n293/JBphotojunk/triumph.jpg" border="0" width="177" height="150" /></p><p>I keed, I keed !</p><p>&nbsp;I was looking for a good poopjoke or something, well here it goes...</p><p align="center"><font color="#999999">&nbsp;</font>Did you hear about the constipated lawyer? <br /><br />He worked it out with a pencil. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

Chigworthy
02-07-2007, 06:01 PM
My&nbsp;MIP in CA didn't go to court.&nbsp; All I had to do was go to some group counselling sessions with some ex-druggy counselor in a tweed coat and long hair.&nbsp; Before each session, my friends and I would do drug &quot;research&quot; in the parking lot.&nbsp;