gotta love when this muslim holiday comes around

[FMJeff]

<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/ashoura.children.ap/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/ashoura.children.ap/index.html</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Hey everyone, it's that time of the year again! time to slice open your child's forehead with a fucking razor blade and walk around town covered in your own skull blood. </p><p>wonderful, beautiful people.</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/ashoura.children.ap/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/ashoura.children.ap/index.html</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Hey everyone, it's that time of the year again! time to slice open your child's forehead with a fucking razor blade and walk around town covered in your own skull blood. </p><p>wonderful, beautiful people.</p><p>Its called honoring your past hero's... I don't get why people are so quick to judge other cultures. Muslims are just hard core when it comes to following what the believe in. I don't appreciate it being joked about... Bobo was pissed about the anti Jew joke that ed did. and people went to his aid. I would appreciate if you left my faith alone. Thanks!</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Kevin on 2-8-07 @ 9:18 PM</span>

[Midkiff]

<p>cutters are just so hot</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>mmmmm</p>

[Bossanova]

Im gonna back Kevin on this.&nbsp; I personally am not religous at all, but I will not be quick to judge a religion.&nbsp; If this is part of culture and a strong belief in a religion I can not shit on it.&nbsp; Again I think some people react to the extremists who have tarnished the muslim faith.&nbsp; I don't know enough on the faith to say one way or the other, but I can't condem it.

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bossanova on 2-8-07 @ 9:25 PM</span>

[FMJeff]

<p>Yeah im sorry but telling your kid to stop being a wimp while you slice his head open is criminal, shit on your religion or not. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FMJeff]

<p>Double fuck your religion. Look at this little kid with a&nbsp;fuckign sword and a face covered in blood.&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.foundrymusic.com/common_images/member_galleries/2899_3132002_muslimheadcut2.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="415" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.foundrymusic.com/common_images/member_galleries/2899_3132002_muslimheadcut.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="363" /></p>

[FMJeff]

<p><img src="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/WORLD/meast/01/30/ashoura.children.ap/vert.ashoura2.ap.jpg" border="0" alt="vert.ashoura2.ap.jpg" width="220" height="242" /></p><p>A Lebanese Shiite Muslim mother taps her son's head to cause more bleeding after cutting it with a sword during Ashura in Lebanon on Tuesday.</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Double fuck your religion. Look at this little kid with a&nbsp;fuckign sword and a face covered in blood.&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.foundrymusic.com/common_images/member_galleries/2899_3132002_muslimheadcut2.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="415" /></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://www.foundrymusic.com/common_images/member_galleries/2899_3132002_muslimheadcut.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="363" /></p><p>Yea like Jews are fantastic people.... I don't even want to even start with shit anyway, you can think what you want to think. No matter what religion your a pick.</p>

[FMJeff]

<p><em>In the Nabatiyeh hall, splashes of bright red blood covered the floor from the cutting. Some of the children held back tears and tried to put on a brave face as Hajj Khodor sliced the skin of their foreheads.</em></p><p><em>Their reward was fruit juice and cookies.</em></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Juice and cookies. Fantastic.</p><p><em>Hind Abinabi, a 52-year-old Shiite woman and mother of four, said to maim children was not only cruel, but also against the religion. </em></p><p><em>&quot;When the rest of the world is going to the moon, look where these people are -- still drawing blood from their heads,&quot; she said.</em></p><p><em>One boy's screams and resistance Tuesday did pay off.</em></p><p><em>&quot;No, no, I don't want it,&quot; the terrified boy kept yelling at the top of his voice. </em></p><p><em>After a few failed attempts, his mother quietly walked him down the stairs and out of the hall.</em></p><p>Barbarians. </p>

[MellySmelly]

I try to follow the rule of never discussing politics or religion.&nbsp; It is too tender a spot for most people.&nbsp; I don't judge anyone for their beliefs.

[Kevin]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p><em>In the Nabatiyeh hall, splashes of bright red blood covered the floor from the cutting. Some of the children held back tears and tried to put on a brave face as Hajj Khodor sliced the skin of their foreheads.</em></p><p><em>Their reward was fruit juice and cookies.</em></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Juice and cookies. Fantastic.</p><p><em>Hind Abinabi, a 52-year-old Shiite woman and mother of four, said to maim children was not only cruel, but also against the religion. </em></p><p><em>&quot;When the rest of the world is going to the moon, look where these people are -- still drawing blood from their heads,&quot; she said.</em></p><p><em>One boy's screams and resistance Tuesday did pay off.</em></p><p><em>&quot;No, no, I don't want it,&quot; the terrified boy kept yelling at the top of his voice. </em></p><p><em>After a few failed attempts, his mother quietly walked him down the stairs and out of the hall.</em></p><p>Barbarians. </p><p>YOUR PEOPLE WHIPED AND NAILED AND NAILED A BLOODY JESUS TO A FUCKING CROSS AND LET HIM DIE!!!! You want to start talk about peoples barbaric&nbsp;histories??? Do i do all of that shit that you saw?? No i don't mus Muslims don't so don't fucking judge an entire religion by some people. I don't fucking Judge a Jew because of what a Jew lawyer does or whatever.. I judge the person. So you are fucking out of line</p>

[Gvac]

<p>This is exactly why the old adage about not discussing religion and politics is usually a good one to follow. </p><p>Most people are far too passionate to ever discuss it logically. &nbsp;</p><p>As bizarre as it may seem to you, Jeff, these customs are centuries old.&nbsp; If you don't agree with them, don't slice your own kid's head open. &nbsp;</p><p>Suppose a Born Again Christian posted pictures of abortions and said &quot;look at what these sick fucks do to babies&quot;?&nbsp; Wouldn't you be furious? &nbsp;</p><p>If you can't be respectful and put personal feelings aside, don't discuss things.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Bossanova]

How come I never see threads ripping on the catholics fucking little boys, or all the other twisted things that go on in religion.&nbsp; That fact is this, I know as much about the Muslim faith as FMJeff does.&nbsp; No one can actually rip a religion based on a news report.&nbsp; I can't pass judgement until I read their book, see their religion in person.&nbsp; Just because you wave an American flag proudly doesn't make you an authority on a religion, especially one that isn't represented by 11 bad pilots. <span class="post_edited"></span>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bossanova on 2-8-07 @ 9:42 PM</span>

[keithy_19]

<p>Fm Jeff, I'll agree with you. It is barbaric.</p><p>Kevin, the Jews aren't great people, but hell, they are very funny. </p>

[HBox]

<p>You know what isn't barbaric?</p><p><font size="7">CIRCUMCISION.</font> </p>

[keithy_19]

<p>I think,this particular custom in the muslim world over there is barbaric. Just like I think the people who nail themselves to crosses in the phillipines are barbaric. </p><p>Catholic priests who have sex with young boys should get there balls cut off and put into jail. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[keithy_19]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><p><font color="#000080"><font size="2">You know what isn't barbaric?</font></font></p><p><font size="7">CIRCUMCISION.</font> </p><p>But that's why you save the forskin. </p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This is exactly why the old adage about not discussing religion and politics is usually a good one to follow. </p><p>Most people are far too passionate to ever discuss it logically. &nbsp;</p><p>As bizarre as it may seem to you, Jeff, these customs are centuries old.&nbsp; If you don't agree with them, don't slice your own kid's head open. &nbsp;</p><p>Suppose a Born Again Christian posted pictures of abortions and said &quot;look at what these sick fucks do to babies&quot;?&nbsp; Wouldn't you be furious? &nbsp;</p><p>If you can't be respectful and put personal feelings aside, don't discuss things.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;</p><p>Are you seriously comparing adortion propaganda photographs with this? Your comparison isn't even the same universe. This isn't ritual circumcision. this is taking a fully aware child and mutilating them in the name of tradition. </p><p>this isnt quirky religious stuff like i cant eat milk with pork. this is a violation.</p><p>And the romans nailed jesus to the cross, not jews. </p>

[FUNKMAN]

i guess nobody is worried about aids.

[FMJeff]

<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />How come I never see threads ripping on the catholics fucking little boys, or all the other twisted things that go on in religion.&nbsp; That fact is this, I know as much about the Muslim faith as FMJeff does.&nbsp; No one can actually rip a religion based on a news report.&nbsp; I can't pass judgement until I read their book, see their religion in person.&nbsp; Just because you wave an American flag proudly doesn't make you an authority on a religion, especially one that isn't represented by 11 bad pilots. <span class="post_edited"></span><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Bossanova on 2-8-07 @ 9:42 PM</span> <p>Who said I was an authority on anything? Look at the damn photos. You don't need a PHD in Islam to see that's fucking insane. Stop trying to make this an &quot;I'm an american, i don't know shit&quot; issue. I'm a human being.</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>keithy_19</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I think,this particular custom in the muslim world over there is barbaric. Just like I think the people who nail themselves to crosses in the phillipines are barbaric. </p><p>Catholic priests who have sex with young boys should get there balls cut off and put into jail. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Right, but i don't go calling catholosisem a kid toucher religion just because of what some priests do.&nbsp; My gripe is not that he though what he saw was barbaric. My problem is him labeling my entire religion because of it. I do not know any Muslim here that does it. We just mourn in our own way.</p>

[keithy_19]

<strong>FUNKMAN</strong> wrote:<br />i guess nobody is worried about aids. <p>EVERYBODY HAS AIDS! AIDS AIDS AIDS!</p>

[keithy_19]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>keithy_19</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I think,this particular custom in the muslim world over there is barbaric. Just like I think the people who nail themselves to crosses in the phillipines are barbaric. </p><p>Catholic priests who have sex with young boys should get there balls cut off and put into jail. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Right, but i don't go calling catholosisem a kid toucher religion just because of what some priests do.&nbsp; My gripe is not that he though what he saw was barbaric. My problem is him labeling my entire religion because of it. I do not know any Muslim here that does it. We just mourn in our own way.</p><p>I don't feel muslims are barbaric. I do feel that this ritual isn't humane at all. </p>

[DarkHippie]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>keithy_19</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I think,this particular custom in the muslim world over there is barbaric. Just like I think the people who nail themselves to crosses in the phillipines are barbaric. </p><p>Catholic priests who have sex with young boys should get there balls cut off and put into jail. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Right, but i don't go calling catholosisem a kid toucher religion just because of what some priests do.&nbsp; My gripe is not that he though what he saw was barbaric. My problem is him labeling my entire religion because of it. I do not know any Muslim here that does it. We just mourn in our own way.</p><p>Yes, but kid touching isn't sanctioned by the church (though they have been sweeping it under the rug and have a lot to answer for.)&nbsp; Ritual mutilation is not ok.&nbsp; I'm not comfortable with circumcision either.</p>

[mikeyboy]

<p>This is clearly headed in the wrong direction.&nbsp; I also think it's beyond fixing.&nbsp; I'd rather people could have a respectful discourse on this, but I think we're already way past that&nbsp;line.</p>

[Bossanova]

<strong>FMJeff wrote: </strong><p>Who said I was an authority on anything? Look at the damn photos. You don't need a PHD in Islam to see that's fucking insane. Stop trying to make this an &quot;I'm an american, i don't know shit&quot; issue. I'm a human being<strong>. </strong></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I used the American thing because you did not know or care about this tradition in 2000.&nbsp; You were a happy American not worried about Muslims or Middle Easterners.&nbsp; Don't give me the bullshit about being a human being, I hear that from every racist that has an issue with any thing they don't understand.&nbsp; </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bossanova on 2-8-07 @ 9:56 PM</span>