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satan-2

02-14-2007, 11:50 PM

Anybody that really know's me, knows that i am a nice person, but why is it that i tend to meet people who constantly let me down. <img src="http://x.myspace.com/images/blog/smileys/bitter.gif" border="0" /> you know people who are unreliable.   holy jesus how do i attract these leeches.   i really can't count on anyone aside from family members.any advice is greatly appreciated. this is getting annoying and stressful.walter t.

Justice4all

02-15-2007, 12:18 AM

Well, if someone let's you down very quickly or in a very bad way, then you can't do anything but learn from the experience.If someone disrecpects you, not much you can do but just never give them the opportunity to do it again.when you first meet someone it is ok to be a good person but there are limits to how far you can trust them. Trust is EARNED not just given away. When you see them taking advantage of your good nature then give them less and less opportunities to do so.And if they come around ASKING why you are not calling them for anything, favors or otherwise, you can let them know that they are unreliable. That is a great release. being able to tell them what you think of them after the fuck you over, and KNOWING you are in the right.

satan-2

02-15-2007, 12:32 AM

thanks, i really appreciate the advice. walter t.

Justice4all

02-15-2007, 12:19 PM

No worries, I really hope things pick up for you.

Fat_Sunny

02-15-2007, 12:30 PM

Satan, Learn To Rely Only On Yourself.  That Is The Only Person You Should Ever Trust 100% To Do You Right.Assume That Everyone Else Will Always Let You Down.  Then, When Someone Doesn't, It Is A Very Pleasant Bonus.Expect Little From People, And You Will Not Be Disappointed!

Bob Impact

02-15-2007, 04:16 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Satan, Learn To Rely Only On Yourself. That Is The Only Person You Should Ever Trust 100% To Do You Right.Assume That Everyone Else Will Always Let You Down. Then, When Someone Doesn't, It Is A Very Pleasant Bonus.Expect Little From People, And You Will Not Be Disappointed! Fat, for someone who is intelligent and understands the importance of ego and the individual, it's quizical that you continue this gimmick of speaking in the third person, please drop it. I agree with you, when other people are worthwhile, its a treat for you. 

This message was edited by Bob Impact on 2-15-07 @ 8:21 PM

Gvac

02-15-2007, 04:24 PM

Gvac enjoys Fat's unique posting style. And I need a little more info as far as what makes these "leeches" you refer to so unreliable, satan.

jetdog

02-15-2007, 06:56 PM

devil's advocate, are you associating with flakes most of the time? what are they promising you a record contract? drugs?I'm not trying to bust balls, but maybe you don't know how to differentiate between a drunken conversatoin with an aquatainance (Let's do it man, me and you, we'll right some songs, come on into the studio and let's produce that shit, salud! bro!).  Are these people you consider good freinds? if so you have a right to be mad, if not you have to learn to never rely on people like this.

pittphantoms

02-15-2007, 07:14 PM

I feel your pain about having a hard time finding reliable people.  I had a lot of trouble in the past with people who just were users.  First, I think I learned over time that I allowed it to be that way.  I let things slide that I shouldn't have, and paid the price.  Now I don't let shit go.  People know if they let me down they are going to hear about it.  It is about respect.   Second, it also could be location.  I lived in Naples, Florida which is a large rich/vacation spot.  People constantly were using each other for one thing or another (more so than I have seen in any of the 7 other places I have lived).  It was just a bad area.  Sometimes you need to move on to get out of a bad situation.Finally, it could just be an age thing.  I had a couple friends in school that one time or another I felt let me down.  I still spoke to them on the phone but I didn't make it a point to be around after school.  We eventually started hanging out again and we all have matured now.  I think my feelings of being let down by then was as much my immaturity as theirs.  In the end there is no substitution to having friends who know you and have been through the fire with you.  Once you find those friends things tend to start working out.Now if only I could mature enough to find a woman :)

Death Metal Moe

02-15-2007, 07:20 PM

People can only let you down as far as you put trust in them.

Team_Ramrod

02-15-2007, 10:09 PM

Fat, I like the third person. I can see how it isn't for everyone but I still enjoy it. Hell, I find Ramrod thinking to himself in the third person at times.But Mr. S, I can see your dillema when it comes to unreliable people. I for one, think I am terribly unreliable and anyone who puts any trust in me is foolish.For example, I've been away at work for a number of days and I told my daughter I'd make it home on her 3rd birthday tomorrow. I won't make it tomorrow because I rolled in at 8:00 tonight. How unreliable is that? I can't even show up on the day I said. Or tonight, I asked my wife for a hummer (start to finish) she reluctantly agreed but did not want to. Even though it was fantastic I stopped 3/4 way through and humped the ever lovin bajeesus out of her. Again, totally unreliable. I think people in general are unreliable. It takes much practice to aquire the skills of reliability.

DoubleJ

02-15-2007, 10:14 PM

Bob Impact wrote: Fat_Sunny wrote: Satan, Learn To Rely Only On Yourself. That Is The Only Person You Should Ever Trust 100% To Do You Right.Assume That Everyone Else Will Always Let You Down. Then, When Someone Doesn't, It Is A Very Pleasant Bonus.Expect Little From People, And You Will Not Be Disappointed! Fat, for someone who is intelligent and understands the importance of ego and the individual, it's quizical that you continue this gimmick of speaking in the third person, please drop it. I agree with you, when other people are worthwhile, its a treat for you. This message was edited by Bob Impact on 2-15-07 @ 8:21 PMYou picked the one post out of 295 in which Fat did not refer to himself in the third person to confront him about doing so.

Bob Impact

02-15-2007, 10:21 PM

Ehhh, it's not about the third person thing as much as it is about the content of that post.  Fat's a smart guy, I just hate to see it get wasted in a gimmick.

Fat_Sunny

02-15-2007, 10:24 PM

DoubleJ wrote: You picked the one post out of 295 in which Fat did not refer to himself in the third person to confront him about doing so. JJ, Fat Found That Odd As Well!

Team_Ramrod

02-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Bob Impact wrote: Ehhh, it's not about the third person thing as much as it is about the content of that post.  Fat's a smart guy, I just hate to see it get wasted in a gimmick. Gimmicks are what makes the world go 'round.You want, I put Fat on Ramrod Probation?No offense Fat, Ramrod's just trying to be two faced and play both sides.

Fat_Sunny

02-15-2007, 11:38 PM

The Fountainhead By Ayn RandPlot Summary: "Individualistic and idealistic architect Howard Roark is expelled from college because his designs fail to fit with existing architectural thinking"Fat_Sunny = Howard RoarkBob Impact = "The System" Or "The Man"Ramrod, Fat Thinks The Idea Of Being On Probation Is Very Exciting!  Fat Likes To Live On The Edge!

Bob Impact

02-16-2007, 04:47 AM

Fat_Sunny wrote: The Fountainhead By Ayn RandPlot Summary: "Individualistic and idealistic architect Howard Roark is expelled from college because his designs fail to fit with existing architectural thinking"Fat_Sunny = Howard RoarkBob Impact = "The System" Or "The Man"Ramrod, Fat Thinks The Idea Of Being On Probation Is Very Exciting! Fat Likes To Live On The Edge! Fair enough, I still think you cloud good points behind a gimmick.

Andre99

02-16-2007, 05:14 AM

I feel I was the same way as you are. It's almost like you are attracting the opposite of what you are. I have never been able to figure out why I was like that but I think it does have something to do with trusting people. For example you probably automatically trust most people because you know you are trust worthy and you just assume people will treat you the same if you treat them with respect. But in reality those people are playing you. They see they can take advantage of you but when you call them up for something suddenly they have no time for your issue. I have chosen good friends now but I still don't trust most of them which really sucks sometimes.

satan-2

02-19-2007, 12:27 AM

Gvac wrote: Gvac enjoys Fat's unique posting style. And I need a little more info as far as what makes these "leeches" you refer to so unreliable, satan. good question. you help a person out with whatever help the person needs. now it's my turn for a little assistance and  i get a bunch of excuses left and right. believe me it's very rare when i ask for help. or they ask you for advice and you gotta listen to their long story. when it's my turn for advice i get no response or "i don't know what to tell you," respose.  to me the two scenario's above are leeches.

satan-2

02-19-2007, 12:40 AM

Andre99 wrote: I feel I was the same way as you are. It's almost like you are attracting the opposite of what you are. I have never been able to figure out why I was like that but I think it does have something to do with trusting people. For example you probably automatically trust most people because you know you are trust worthy and you just assume people will treat you the same if you treat them with respect. But in reality those people are playing you. They see they can take advantage of you but when you call them up for something suddenly they have no time for your issue. I have chosen good friends now but I still don't trust most of them which really sucks sometimes. it's not about trusting, to me it's about quid pro quo. you help me, i help you and vice versa. which i don't mind helping someone but don't let me down when i need help. that annoys the shit out of me. and to boot right after telling me, can't help ya, they are at it again, "hey can you help me out." but if i tell them no, they get pissed like bitches. WTF!!!

Team_Ramrod

02-19-2007, 10:31 AM

Andre99 wrote: I feel I was the same way as you are. It's almost like you are attracting the opposite of what you are. I have never been able to figure out why I was like that but I think it does have something to do with trusting people. For example you probably automatically trust most people because you know you are trust worthy and you just assume people will treat you the same if you treat them with respect. But in reality those people are playing you. They see they can take advantage of you but when you call them up for something suddenly they have no time for your issue. I have chosen good friends now but I still don't trust most of them which really sucks sometimes.I didn't read what you posted cause I didn't want to.... but are related to Andre 3000?

This message was edited by The Midnight Ramrod on 2-19-07 @ 2:32 PM

Don Stugots

02-20-2007, 02:57 AM

i too have this problem with people.  i have helped out a lot of people in my time.  too many.  right now, a few of these people are in post_tions to help me, i asked them for this help, i was told not to worry things will be taken care of.  well, nothing has been done.  i only hear excuses as to why things arent done yet.   I helped these people put food on their tables and a roof over their heads when they had nothing.  i kept them working and fought for them to keep their spots and to make more money.  i gave them strenght and hope and the ability to believe in themselves.  i got back spit.

angelinad128

02-20-2007, 07:15 AM

I so can understand what you mean.  I have learned the hard way that you really shouldn't expect much from anyone, which sucks but in time won't dissapoint you.

ralphbxny

02-20-2007, 01:27 PM

angelinad128 wrote: I so can understand what you mean.  I have learned the hard way that you really shouldn't expect much from anyone, which sucks but in time won't dissapoint you. Yep its why i love ron fez.net people. not here or close to disappoint me.

satan-2

02-24-2007, 02:15 PM

Don Stugots wrote: i too have this problem with people. i have helped out a lot of people in my time. too many. right now, a few of these people are in post_tions to help me, i asked them for this help, i was told not to worry things will be taken care of. well, nothing has been done. i only hear excuses as to why things arent done yet.  I helped these people put food on their tables and a roof over their heads when they had nothing. i kept them working and fought for them to keep their spots and to make more money. i gave them strenght and hope and the ability to believe in themselves. i got back spit.  ouch. it's a relief to know that i'm not alone on this topic. thanks for the advice everyone and for sharing your stories and thoughts. i really appreciate it.  i feel a lot better :)