Ann Coulter calls John Edwards a bad name [Archive]

AgnosticJihad

03-02-2007, 07:24 PM

Ann Coulter is an inflammatory attack dog who savagely assaults anyone she percieves as a liberal, instead of trying to promote her views with intelligent, fact-based arguments. Examples of this abound: I remember a few years back, I saw a clip of her on Bill O'Rielly's show, where she spoke quite highly of Joseph McCarthy (the funny thing was, not even O'Rielly was crazy enough to agree with her, and verbally reprimanded her; Coulter was quite taken aback, as was apperent by her expression and inability to form a coherent sentence afterward. Very entertaining stuff!); her books are well-known for flawed and inaccurate fact referencing (and I believe she was found guilty of plagarism in her last book); I could continue for quite some time, but am unwilling to waste another second of my life discussing this silly twat. She would truly be a joke, but unfortunately Mr. Epo is right: people do take her seriously.

IamFogHat

03-02-2007, 07:40 PM

Snacks wrote: who cares what she said! shes an asshole, she hates because she hate her own life and family. Isnt her mother a lesbian anyway? Seriously, I read she grew up with a lesbian mom. Are you spreading rumors?  Cause if you're right, then I will probably laugh for a thousand years at that bigot cunt.  I have hated her for many years, and have always wondered where her severe invective came from.

KC2OSO

03-02-2007, 08:13 PM

epo

03-02-2007, 08:25 PM

torker wrote: She's got balls. Literally?

Fat_Sunny

03-02-2007, 08:57 PM

epo wrote: Ann Coulter is batshit crazy, well at least that's what I think.  Today she is caught on video calling Presidential candidate John Edwards "a faggot".  I couldn't even make this up.  As They'd Say In South Park, Edwards Got Served!A Boney Over-The-Hill Low-Budget Big-Mouth Dried-Up Skank Vs. A Blood-Sucking Cum-Drinking Ambulance-Chasing Trial Lawyer.It's On!

Yerdaddy

03-02-2007, 09:38 PM

KC2OSO wrote: <a href="http://www.edge.org/">Read </a>Not sure what was relevant behind the link but I enjoyed this:<a href="http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=81914&ml_collection=&ml_gate way=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_co ntext=show&ml_origin_url=/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_la" target="new"><img src="http://www.edge.org/images/pink.colb-ert300.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="227" /></a> [click on image] ... [STEPHEN COLBERT:] Your specialty is the brain and how it works. Right?[STEVEN PINKER:] Right.It's a complicated subject. How does the brain work? Five words or less.Brain cells fire in patterns.Brain cells fire in patterns. Not bad.  And these patterns establish our behavior and stuff like that,A pattern corresponds to a thought. One patterns causes another pattern, that's what happen when we think.OK. Let me ask you something. You're also, you're also, uh, language is very important to you. Umm, uhh, wha wha, what, why is language important?It's the way we get our thoughts across. It's the way we cooperate, the way we share our knowledge…How important is volume? I find if I'm trying to get an idea across if I shout it at the person I'm saying it to, it makes it seem more important. Is that common?I think that's common, unfortunately, yes.

Yerdaddy

03-02-2007, 09:59 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: epo wrote: Ann Coulter is batshit crazy, well at least that's what I think.  Today she is caught on video calling Presidential candidate John Edwards "a faggot".  I couldn't even make this up.  As They'd Say In South Park, Edwards Got Served!A Boney Over-The-Hill Low-Budget Big-Mouth Dried-Up Skank Vs. A Blood-Sucking Cum-Drinking Ambulance-Chasing Trial Lawyer.It's On!A radical right-wing pundit that is so inflamitory and has been discredited so many times that even conservatives won't defend her makes a childish and baseless slur totally inappropriate for serious political discussion on public airwaves and so many of you conservatives are using this to make some quivalency point about Roberts being somehow as bad as Coulter or deserving of the insult or that it was actually right. Here's a question: when did conservatives forsake dignity altogether?

Fat_Sunny

03-02-2007, 10:09 PM

Yerdaddy wrote: A radical right-wing pundit that is so inflamitory and has been discredited so many times that even conservatives won't defend her makes a childish and baseless slur totally inappropriate for serious political discussion on public airwaves and so many of you conservatives are using this to make some quivalency point about Roberts being somehow as bad as Coulter or deserving of the insult or that it was actually right. Here's a question: when did conservatives forsake dignity altogether?First, Who Is Roberts?Let Fat Explain Something To Yerdaddy.  There Are All Manner Of Insults By Public Figures Against The Public.  Coulter Insults Us With Her Foul Mouth.  But Edwards Insults Us With His Hypocrisy.  Mr. "Two Americas" Does His Best To Gin Up Racial And Class Divide, Yet Builds The Biggest House In North Carolina With Every Silly Indulgence That Would Make Even Louis XVI Envious.  What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is.  And People Like You Fall For His Tearful "Two Americas" Speech.In Fat's Book, Being A Hypocrite Is Far Worse Than Being A Big-Mouth.

HBox

03-02-2007, 10:35 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: A radical right-wing pundit that is so inflamitory and has been discredited so many times that even conservatives won't defend her makes a childish and baseless slur totally inappropriate for serious political discussion on public airwaves and so many of you conservatives are using this to make some quivalency point about Roberts being somehow as bad as Coulter or deserving of the insult or that it was actually right. Here's a question: when did conservatives forsake dignity altogether?First, Who Is Roberts?Let Fat Explain Something To Yerdaddy. There Are All Manner Of Insults By Public Figures Against The Public. Coulter Insults Us With Her Foul Mouth. But Edwards Insults Us With His Hypocrisy. Mr. "Two Americas" Does His Best To Gin Up Racial And Class Divide, Yet Builds The Biggest House In North Carolina With Every Silly Indulgence That Would Make Even Louis XVI Envious. What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is. And People Like You Fall For His Tearful "Two Americas" Speech.In Fat's Book, Being A Hypocrite Is Far Worse Than Being A Big-Mouth. No, people like you are the worst. People try and change things for the better, and people like you are envious or jealous, for whatever reason, and then hold them to ridiculous standards. Edwards says he wants to fight for the poor but he hasn't taken a vow of poverty so he's a hypocrite, as if giving away his money could make a difference in the societal problems he fights against. Bill Gates gives away billions but he still has billions so he's a hypocrite. Al Gore fights against Golbal Warming but somewhere, at some point he was responsible for carbon being released in the atmosphere so he's a hypocrite. Somewhere along the line we stopped judging people on what they do and instead judge them on what they could do further. And if they don't as much as they possibly could we drag them down and heap scorn upon them, just so we can feel better about ourselves.We've created a system in which you are either Mother Teresa or you don't really care at all.

Dougie Brootal

03-02-2007, 10:35 PM

oh man, here we go!

high fly

03-02-2007, 10:38 PM

Sure would like to hear Fat explain why it is "phony" for a multi-millionaire to have a large house.

This message was edited by high fly on 3-3-07 @ 2:41 AM

Dougie Brootal

03-02-2007, 10:48 PM

high fly wrote: Sure would like to hear Fat explain why it is "phony" for a multi-millionaire to have a large house.This message was edited by high fly on 3-3-07 @ 2:41 AM i agree. if i had a million $$$ i would buy the BIGGEST FUCKING HOUSE you have ever seen.

high fly

03-02-2007, 10:57 PM

Fat seems to think that would be "phony."Maybe once he's done his algebra homework, he can explain.

MrPink

03-02-2007, 11:00 PM

douggrasso wrote: high fly wrote: Sure would like to hear Fat explain why it is "phony" for a multi-millionaire to have a large house.This message was edited by high fly on 3-3-07 @ 2:41 AM i agree. if i had a million $$$ i would buy the BIGGEST FUCKING HOUSE you have ever seen.in maryland a million bucks will get you a somewhat nice house but nothing imressivei like that coulter aint afraid to call someone faggot. we live in such a PC society that something like that is a breath of fresh air. plus i'd hit it.

Yerdaddy

03-03-2007, 05:45 AM

HBox wrote: Fat_Sunny wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: A radical right-wing pundit that is so inflamitory and has been discredited so many times that even conservatives won't defend her makes a childish and baseless slur totally inappropriate for serious political discussion on public airwaves and so many of you conservatives are using this to make some quivalency point about Roberts being somehow as bad as Coulter or deserving of the insult or that it was actually right. Here's a question: when did conservatives forsake dignity altogether?First, Who Is Roberts?Let Fat Explain Something To Yerdaddy. There Are All Manner Of Insults By Public Figures Against The Public. Coulter Insults Us With Her Foul Mouth. But Edwards Insults Us With His Hypocrisy. Mr. "Two Americas" Does His Best To Gin Up Racial And Class Divide, Yet Builds The Biggest House In North Carolina With Every Silly Indulgence That Would Make Even Louis XVI Envious. What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is. And People Like You Fall For His Tearful "Two Americas" Speech.In Fat's Book, Being A Hypocrite Is Far Worse Than Being A Big-Mouth. No, people like you are the worst. People try and change things for the better, and people like you are envious or jealous, for whatever reason, and then hold them to ridiculous standards. Edwards says he wants to fight for the poor but he hasn't taken a vow of poverty so he's a hypocrite, as if giving away his money could make a difference in the societal problems he fights against. Bill Gates gives away billions but he still has billions so he's a hypocrite. Al Gore fights against Golbal Warming but somewhere, at some point he was responsible for carbon being released in the atmosphere so he's a hypocrite. Somewhere along the line we stopped judging people on what they do and instead judge them on what they could do further. And if they don't as much as they possibly could we drag them down and heap scorn upon them, just so we can feel better about ourselves. We've created a system in which you are either Mother Teresa or you don't really care at all. I once saw a picture of Mother Theresa putting a spoonfull of rice in her mouth. Lying cunt.

Yerdaddy

03-03-2007, 05:51 AM

MrPink wrote: douggrasso wrote: high fly wrote: Sure would like to hear Fat explain why it is "phony" for a multi-millionaire to have a large house.This message was edited by high fly on 3-3-07 @ 2:41 AM i agree. if i had a million $$$ i would buy the BIGGEST FUCKING HOUSE you have ever seen.in maryland a million bucks will get you a somewhat nice house but nothing imressivei like that coulter aint afraid to call someone faggot. we live in such a PC society that something like that is a breath of fresh air. plus i'd hit it.faggot

Fat_Sunny

03-03-2007, 08:17 AM

Fat Is Very Surprised That The Partisans Do Not Understand Edward's Bad Judgement.Newt Gingrich Made His Mark Originally By Nailing Jim Wright For Profiting Off A Book Deal While Speaker Of The House.  Then Gingrich Gets Elected, And What Is The First Thing He Does?  He Signs A $3,000,000 Book Deal.  What An Idiot!  If You Are Going To Make Profiting Off Book Deals Into A Huge Issue, Then You Better Not Sign Your Own Deal.  It Shows Not Just A Moral But A "Common-Sense" Weak Spot!  It Was The Beginning Of His Downfall.If You Are Colorado Minister Ted Haggard And You Use Your Church To Lobby Against The Gay Marriage Amendment, You Had Better Not Be Found With A Male Ho's Dick Up Your Butt.  It Shows Not Just A Moral But A "Common-Sense" Weak Spot!  It Was His Downfall.If You Are Going To Complain About How Bad It Is To Have Two Americas, One For The Rich And One For The Poor, And If You Plan To Run For President, Then You Better Not Do Anything That Makes You Look Like You Are A BAD Example Of The Rich America.And Building A SIX MILLION DOLLAR House In North Carolina (Which Would Be Worth 12 Million In Maryland) Shows Not Just A Moral But A "Common-Sense" Weak Spot!  It Will Prevent Him From Becoming President.<img src="http://www.johnlocke.org/images/articles/screen_45b96f4556a25.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="206" />If You Are Gonna Talk The Talk, You Better Walk The Walk, Whether Gingrich, Haggard, Or Edwards!

Dan 'Hampton

03-03-2007, 08:34 AM

Who here hasn't called someone that at one point in their life?  So what?  Ignore her and she'll go away.  The right has these nuts and don't think for a min that the left don't.  Maybe just not as well organized.

TheMojoPin

03-03-2007, 09:23 AM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Fat Is Very Surprised That The Partisans Do Not Understand Edward's Bad Judgement.Newt Gingrich Made His Mark Originally By Nailing Jim Wright For Profiting Off A Book Deal While Speaker Of The House.  Then Gingrich Gets Elected, And What Is The First Thing He Does?  He Signs A $3,000,000 Book Deal.  What An Idiot!  If You Are Going To Make Profiting Off Book Deals Into A Huge Issue, Then You Better Not Sign Your Own Deal.  It Shows Not Just A Moral But A "Common-Sense" Weak Spot!  It Was The Beginning Of His Downfall.If You Are Colorado Minister Ted Haggard And You Use Your Church To Lobby Against The Gay Marriage Amendment, You Had Better Not Be Found With A Male Ho's Dick Up Your Butt.  It Shows Not Just A Moral But A "Common-Sense" Weak Spot!  It Was His Downfall.If You Are Going To Complain About How Bad It Is To Have Two Americas, One For The Rich And One For The Poor, And If You Plan To Run For President, Then You Better Not Do Anything That Makes You Look Like You Are A BAD Example Of The Rich America.And Building A SIX MILLION DOLLAR House In North Carolina (Which Would Be Worth 12 Million In Maryland) Shows Not Just A Moral But A "Common-Sense" Weak Spot!  It Will Prevent Him From Becoming President.<img src="http://www.johnlocke.org/images/articles/screen_45b96f4556a25.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="206" />If You Are Gonna Talk The Talk, You Better Walk The Walk, Whether Gingrich, Haggard, Or Edwards!So if your main focus is helping out those below the poverty line, you have to live in poverty yourself?  What's the magical financial cutoff that you've determined is OK for an anti-poverty advocate to spend?For the record, I have no love for Edwards.  I just think your argument is reaching a rather absurd conclusion.

KC2OSO

03-03-2007, 09:28 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: KC2OSO wrote: <a href="http://www.edge.org/">Read </a>Not sure what was relevant behind the link but I enjoyed this:  <a href="http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=81914&ml_collection=&ml_gate way=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_co ntext=show&ml_origin_url=/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_la" target="new"><img src="http://www.edge.org/images/pink.colb-ert300.jpg" border="0" width="300" height="227" /></a> [click on image] ... [STEPHEN COLBERT:] Your specialty is the brain and how it works. Right?[STEVEN PINKER:] Right....I swear to whoever that there was a somewhat left-leaning but relevant op-ed story about what a kook Ann Coulter is on there last night.  Maybe I was posting in my sleep.  Interesting site regardless.

ShowerBench

03-03-2007, 09:28 AM

As They'd Say In South Park, Edwards Got Served!You're easily impressed if you think a filthy skanky slag calling someone a fag is "getting served."

Fat_Sunny

03-03-2007, 09:43 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: So if your main focus is helping out those below the poverty line, you have to live in poverty yourself?  What's the magical financial cutoff that you've determined is OK for an anti-poverty advocate to spend?For the record, I have no love for Edwards.  I just think your argument is reaching a rather absurd conclusion.Fat Wishes He Had A Set Of Blocks, So That He Could Spell This Out In Terms Mojo Could Understand.  Fat Will Try Again.If You Are Running For President, You Are Held To A Different Standard.  Your Opponents Will Use EVERYTHING They Can Find To Make You Look Silly, Dishonest, Or Hypocritical.You Don't Think That When The Time Is Right, The Clintons Or Obama Won't Throw This In Edwards Face, And Make Him Look Like A Selfish, Hypocritical Fool?If You Think This Will Not Hurt Edwards' Chances Of Being President, Then You Grossly Under-Estimate His Opponents.

TheMojoPin

03-03-2007, 12:05 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: So if your main focus is helping out those below the poverty line, you have to live in poverty yourself?  What's the magical financial cutoff that you've determined is OK for an anti-poverty advocate to spend?For the record, I have no love for Edwards.  I just think your argument is reaching a rather absurd conclusion.Fat Wishes He Had A Set Of Blocks, So That He Could Spell This Out In Terms Mojo Could Understand.  Fat Will Try Again.If You Are Running For President, You Are Held To A Different Standard.  Your Opponents Will Use EVERYTHING They Can Find To Make You Look Silly, Dishonest, Or Hypocritical.You Don't Think That When The Time Is Right, The Clintons Or Obama Won't Throw This In Edwards Face, And Make Him Look Like A Selfish, Hypocritical Fool?If You Think This Will Not Hurt Edwards' Chances Of Being President, Then You Grossly Under-Estimate His Opponents.Please stop being such an arrogant douche.You're still not clarifying at all what Edwards should do regarding his house that would better reflect his anti-poverty stance.  5 bedrooms?  4?  3?  2?  A 1 room apartment?  A shanty?  What kind of house would suddenly make his living arrangement acceptable to those that would pounce on the strawman argument of comparing his anti-poverty rhetoric to his family's house.

Fat_Sunny

03-03-2007, 12:32 PM

TheMojoPin wrote:Please stop being such an arrogant douche.You're still not clarifying at all what Edwards should do regarding his house that would better reflect his anti-poverty stance.  5 bedrooms?  4?  3?  2?  A 1 room apartment?  A shanty?  What kind of house would suddenly make his living arrangement acceptable to those that would pounce on the strawman argument of comparing his anti-poverty rhetoric to his family's house.Oy-Vey.  Fat Gives Up.  He Can Not Make His Points Any Differently Than He Already Has.It Comes Down To Political Judgement.  If You Know You Will Be In The Midst Of A Heated Presidential Campaign In Less Than A Year, You Do Not Choose That Moment To Build A Gigantic $6,000,000 House.  A Smart Pol Would Would Have Stayed Put Until The Campaign Was Over, Or Built A More Modest House.  At Least If He REALLY Wanted to Be President. Hilary Clinton Would Not Have Made Such A Stupid Political Error.  Mark Fat's Words, If Edwards Is In The Fray Next February, This WILL Be Used Against Him By The Clintons And Obama.  Fat Can Already Picture The Primary Campaign Ads.  If You Can't, Fat Will Write A Couple Of Sample Ads And Then You Might Understand.

KnoxHarrington

03-03-2007, 01:15 PM

If Coulter were funny or clever in any way, I'd kind of accept her presence on the cultural landscape. But she's not. She's the Bubba The Love Sponge of political discourse: just a shock jock with no substance.

Bulldogcakes

03-03-2007, 03:01 PM

You know whats really wrong with this country? I post a thread about a charitable organization thats doing real good, saving people from going blind. I get zero responses. Ann Coulter gets 3 pages and 42 responses. I give up     

This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 3-3-07 @ 9:33 PM

TheMojoPin

03-03-2007, 04:24 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: TheMojoPin wrote:Please stop being such an arrogant douche.You're still not clarifying at all what Edwards should do regarding his house that would better reflect his anti-poverty stance.  5 bedrooms?  4?  3?  2?  A 1 room apartment?  A shanty?  What kind of house would suddenly make his living arrangement acceptable to those that would pounce on the strawman argument of comparing his anti-poverty rhetoric to his family's house.Oy-Vey.  Fat Gives Up.  He Can Not Make His Points Any Differently Than He Already Has.It Comes Down To Political Judgement.  If You Know You Will Be In The Midst Of A Heated Presidential Campaign In Less Than A Year, You Do Not Choose That Moment To Build A Gigantic $6,000,000 House.  A Smart Pol Would Would Have Stayed Put Until The Campaign Was Over, Or Built A More Modest House.  At Least If He REALLY Wanted to Be President. Hilary Clinton Would Not Have Made Such A Stupid Political Error.  Mark Fat's Words, If Edwards Is In The Fray Next February, This WILL Be Used Against Him By The Clintons And Obama.  Fat Can Already Picture The Primary Campaign Ads.  If You Can't, Fat Will Write A Couple Of Sample Ads And Then You Might Understand.My point is that that's a ridiculous attack stance unless there's some kind of specific level of money Edwards can spend on himself that doesn't somehow make him a "hypocrite."  You're basically saying he's fucked no matter what short of him living in squalor.  That's absurd.  I'm not disagreeing with the poor choice of a candidate flying so blatantly in the face of his own platform...I'm just pointing out how flimsy the extended logic of attacking him on it is by saying he's a hypocrite for living well while still also fighting against poverty.  Yes, his timing isn't that great, but the people that are going to lap up an attack pointing out how big his house is likely weren't going to vote for him anyway.  And quit talking to me like you're some kind of scary genius.  Your whole schtick is tired.  Please try talking to us like a normal person.

Midkiff

03-03-2007, 04:44 PM

she's Sean Hannity's crack whore/cum dumpster, and Rush joins in and helps her polish Hannity's knob

FezPaul

03-03-2007, 04:48 PM

jdmidkiff wrote: she's Sean Hannity's crack whore/cum dumpster, and http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/emoticons/2.gif joins in and helps her polish Hannity's knob Fixed it for ya.

Midkiff

03-03-2007, 04:58 PM

FezPaul wrote: jdmidkiff wrote: she's Sean Hannity's crack whore/cum dumpster, and <img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/FezPaul/emoticons/2.gif" border="0" width="50" height="32" /> joins in and helps her polish Hannity's knob Fixed it for ya.thanks! hahahahahaha

ralphbxny

03-03-2007, 05:31 PM

Ann Coulter is a dumb gash!! Thats as eloquant as I get!

HBox

03-03-2007, 05:40 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: You know whats really wrong with this country? I post a thread about a charitable organization thats doing real good, saving people from going blind. I get zero responses. Ann Coulter gets 3 pages and 42 responses. I give up      This message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 3-3-07 @ 9:33 PMYou could have come up with a much better title than "Got $20?" I passed over it the first time I saw it. I assumed it was spam.

epo

03-03-2007, 05:43 PM

Bulldogcakes wrote: You know whats really wrong with this country? I post a thread about a charitable organization thats doing real good, saving people from going blind. I get zero responses. Ann Coulter gets 3 pages and 42 responses. I give upThis message was edited by Bulldogcakes on 3-3-07 @ 9:33 PM I couldn't agree with your point more, and I started the thread!

spoon

03-03-2007, 05:43 PM

HBox wrote: Fat_Sunny wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: A radical right-wing pundit that is so inflamitory and has been discredited so many times that even conservatives won't defend her makes a childish and baseless slur totally inappropriate for serious political discussion on public airwaves and so many of you conservatives are using this to make some quivalency point about Roberts being somehow as bad as Coulter or deserving of the insult or that it was actually right. Here's a question: when did conservatives forsake dignity altogether?First, Who Is Roberts?Let Fat Explain Something To Yerdaddy. There Are All Manner Of Insults By Public Figures Against The Public. Coulter Insults Us With Her Foul Mouth. But Edwards Insults Us With His Hypocrisy. Mr. "Two Americas" Does His Best To Gin Up Racial And Class Divide, Yet Builds The Biggest House In North Carolina With Every Silly Indulgence That Would Make Even Louis XVI Envious. What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is. And People Like You Fall For His Tearful "Two Americas" Speech.In Fat's Book, Being A Hypocrite Is Far Worse Than Being A Big-Mouth. No, people like you are the worst. People try and change things for the better, and people like you are envious or jealous, for whatever reason, and then hold them to ridiculous standards. Edwards says he wants to fight for the poor but he hasn't taken a vow of poverty so he's a hypocrite, as if giving away his money could make a difference in the societal problems he fights against. Bill Gates gives away billions but he still has billions so he's a hypocrite. Al Gore fights against Golbal Warming but somewhere, at some point he was responsible for carbon being released in the atmosphere so he's a hypocrite. Somewhere along the line we stopped judging people on what they do and instead judge them on what they could do further. And if they don't as much as they possibly could we drag them down and heap scorn upon them, just so we can feel better about ourselves. We've created a system in which you are either Mother Teresa or you don't really care at all. Man I can't even do this post justice with words.  So I'll just say I love H's post above.  It speaks the truth and everyone should read it in it's entirety.  Nice post man.

Midkiff

03-03-2007, 05:47 PM

Ann Coulter is a filthy whoreshellebink has nice tits<img src="http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m48/jdmidkiff/boobswing.gif" border="0" width="144" height="94" />

This message was edited by jdmidkiff on 3-3-07 @ 9:47 PM

HBox

03-03-2007, 05:51 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: TheMojoPin wrote:Please stop being such an arrogant douche.You're still not clarifying at all what Edwards should do regarding his house that would better reflect his anti-poverty stance. 5 bedrooms? 4? 3? 2? A 1 room apartment? A shanty? What kind of house would suddenly make his living arrangement acceptable to those that would pounce on the strawman argument of comparing his anti-poverty rhetoric to his family's house.Oy-Vey. Fat Gives Up. He Can Not Make His Points Any Differently Than He Already Has.It Comes Down To Political Judgement. If You Know You Will Be In The Midst Of A Heated Presidential Campaign In Less Than A Year, You Do Not Choose That Moment To Build A Gigantic $6,000,000 House. A Smart Pol Would Would Have Stayed Put Until The Campaign Was Over, Or Built A More Modest House. At Least If He REALLY Wanted to Be President. Hilary Clinton Would Not Have Made Such A Stupid Political Error. Mark Fat's Words, If Edwards Is In The Fray Next February, This WILL Be Used Against Him By The Clintons And Obama. Fat Can Already Picture The Primary Campaign Ads. If You Can't, Fat Will Write A Couple Of Sample Ads And Then You Might Understand.Stop. That's not what you originally said. THIS is what you originally said: But Edwards Insults Us With His Hypocrisy. Mr. "Two Americas" Does His Best To Gin Up Racial And Class Divide, Yet Builds The Biggest House In North Carolina With Every Silly Indulgence That Would Make Even Louis XVI Envious. What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is. And People Like You Fall For His Tearful "Two Americas" Speech.[/quote] You were flat out calling him a selfish hypocrite. I don't see anything about the pros and cons as far as his Presidential campaign is concerned. It took a bunch of backsliding to get to the point you now claim to be making.It's not as if Edwards is calling for the some communist utopia. He's simply making the point that the gap between the rich and the poor is growing and the lower class in this country is facing a whole host of problems and that there are things we could do to even the playing field. His $6 million home has nothing to do with it and even if he sold that house and used all the money to help the poor it would do nothing to change things at large.His political postion and his house are compatible. If in Edwards wildest dreams all his "Two Americas" policies were enacted he'd still have that house. 

This message was edited by HBox on 3-3-07 @ 9:53 PM

spoon

03-03-2007, 05:55 PM

KnoxHarrington wrote: If Coulter were funny or clever in any way, I'd kind of accept her presence on the cultural landscape. But she's not. She's the Bubba The Love Sponge of political discourse: just a shock jock with no substance. Another great post.  I might not have any need to add anything here.  And Fat, your argument is flimsy at best.  In fact, I doubt anyone running for president this year will attack him on that issue bc they all have very nice homes.  And it's in North Carolina so who the fuck cares anyway?  Looking at your posted pic it's not that fucking crazy for a guy who made a lot of money protecting, get this, people who were found to be wronged in the eyes of the law.  Call it what you want bc you buy into everything you see on the news and the propaganda left and right based orgs put out there, but his house isn't even an issue for me.  Or the fact that Gore has a fucking car.

Midkiff

03-03-2007, 05:56 PM

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Yerdaddy

03-03-2007, 06:08 PM

high fly

03-03-2007, 08:59 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Fat Is Very Surprised That The Partisans Do Not Understand Edward's Bad Judgement. Anyone shocked that anything surprises Fat?If You Are Gonna Talk The Talk, You Better Walk The Walk, Whether Gingrich, Haggard, Or Edwards! Has Edwards' "talk" ever denied he was wealthy or had a big house?Maybe Fat can give us a list of recent presidents who were poor before they ran for the presidency.Still waiting for Fat to explain why it is "phony" for a multimillionaire to have a big housepssst, Hey Fat! He probably has more than one car, too! 

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Fat_Sunny

03-03-2007, 09:15 PM

high fly wrote:Has Edwards' "talk" ever denied he was wealthy or had a big house?Maybe Fat can give us a list of recent presidents who were poor before they ran for the presidency.Still waiting for Fat to explain why it is "phony" for a multimillionaire to have a big housepssst, Hey Fat! He probably has more than one car, too! This message was edited by high fly on 3-4-07 @ 1:03 AM If High Fly And His Buddies Do Not See The IRONY In The Author Of The "Two Americas" Speech Building The Largest House In North Carolina For A Reported 6 Million Dollars, While He Is Simultaneously Running For President As The Champion Of Those 'Left Behind', Then There Is Nothing F_S Can Say!

high fly

03-03-2007, 09:22 PM

I've heard the "Two Americas" speech and have read about the cases Edwards took as a lawyer.Being from North Carolina and having relatives who are significant political players there, I have a pretty good understanding of North Carolina politics.Fat, your points only makes any sense when taken superficially. Upon examination, they fall to pieces.How was it you said it was "phony" for a multi-millionaire to have a big house again?I agree with Mojo. The act is wearing mighty thin.

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Fat_Sunny

03-03-2007, 09:36 PM

Significant Players, Huh?  Care To Share?Fat's Phony Line Was: "What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is."Self-Centered: Hmm....This Is Admittedly Subjective, But Fat Thinks That Is True And Stands By It.Self-Indulgent: Hmm....Yes, The House Proves This.Little: This May Have Been Fat's Mistake...He Does Not Know Edward's Height.Phony: Definition: "false or deceiving; not truthful; concocted". Yes, Fat Thinks This Guy Is A Phony (As He Thinks Virtually All Politicians Are) And That He Has CONCOCTED A Personna.If One Of Your Significant North Carolina Relatives Is Edwards, And He Wants To Sue Fat, Let Him Knock Himself Out.  He Is An Ambulance-Chasing Trial Lawyer After All.

NortonRules

03-03-2007, 09:42 PM

How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.

Reynolds

03-04-2007, 04:16 AM

You have to expect a crazy broad to say something crazy when you put her on tv, and you can pretty much tell this bitch is crazy by just looking at her<img src="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/POLITICS/03/04/coulter.edwards/storyvert.coulter.ed.gi.jpg" border="0" width="220" height="242" />She looks like my stepmother, eeesh

Yerdaddy

03-04-2007, 05:23 AM

NortonRules wrote: How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.    Show me the liberal equivalent of this - a public political figure on national television calling Roberts a faggot for no good reason. Show me the liberal/Democrat equivalent or shut the fuck up. There is none because there is no liberal equivalent to Fox News which has lowered the standard for rational and civil debate in this country to the level of a junior high school cafeteria. At no other time in America's history has there been such a prominent and influential mainstream propaganda organization that has changed the political culture as much as Fox News and right-wing talk radio. Conservative media and you fucking retarded hate-mongers who believe them and make them money are fucking up my country and I'm sick of it. If I catch you lying I'm going to call you on it. I'm not going to pretend you're fringe freaks anymore. So you say her liberal and Democrat counterparts do the same thing, then post the equivalent or or shut your fucking mouth you Nazi wannabe.

nevnut

03-04-2007, 05:28 AM

nevnut

03-04-2007, 05:29 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: NortonRules wrote: How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.    Show me the liberal equivalent of this - a public political figure on national television calling Roberts a faggot for no good reason. Show me the liberal/Democrat equivalent or shut the fuck up. There is none because there is no liberal equivalent to Fox News which has lowered the standard for rational and civil debate in this country to the level of a junior high school cafeteria. At no other time in America's history has there been such a prominent and influential mainstream propaganda organization that has changed the political culture as much as Fox News and right-wing talk radio. Conservative media and you fucking retarded hate-mongers who believe them and make them money are fucking up my country and I'm sick of it. If I catch you lying I'm going to call you on it. I'm not going to pretend you're fringe freaks anymore. So you say her liberal and Democrat counterparts do the same thing, then post the equivalent or or shut your fucking mouth you Nazi wannabe.CBS or NPR

Yerdaddy

03-04-2007, 05:38 AM

Fat_Sunny wrote: Significant Players, Huh?  Care To Share?Fat's Phony Line Was: "What A Self-Centered Self-Indulgent Little Phony He Is."Self-Centered: Hmm....This Is Admittedly Subjective, But Fat Thinks That Is True And Stands By It.Self-Indulgent: Hmm....Yes, The House Proves This.Little: This May Have Been Fat's Mistake...He Does Not Know Edward's Height.Phony: Definition: "false or deceiving; not truthful; concocted". Yes, Fat Thinks This Guy Is A Phony (As He Thinks Virtually All Politicians Are) And That He Has CONCOCTED A Personna.If One Of Your Significant North Carolina Relatives Is Edwards, And He Wants To Sue Fat, Let Him Knock Himself Out.  He Is An Ambulance-Chasing Trial Lawyer After All. The big house thing is petty and stupid. You've been backpedalling since anyone called you on your facts and that's fine. Throwing around "mbulance-chasing trial lawyer" is just one more example of you not knowing shit but throwing your ridiculous opinions and attacking anyone who disagrees like you're a prophet and not an internet gimmick.[quote]Both Edwards and his wife began private practice with law firms in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville,_Tennessee" title="Nashville, Tennessee">Nashville, Tennessee</a>. Edwards became an associate at the law firm of Dearborn & Ewing in 1978, doing primarily trial work, defending a Nashville bank and other corporate clients. The Edwards family (John, Elizabeth, and son Wade) returned to North Carolina in 1981, settling in the capital of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raleigh,_North_Carolina" title="Raleigh, North Carolina">Raleigh</a>.Before entering politics, Edwards was a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_injury" title="Personal injury">personal injury</a> trial attorney. He represented families and children, and specialized in corporate <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligence" title="Negligence">negligence</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_malpractice" title="Medical malpractice">medical malpractice</a> claims. Edwards made his personal fortune through his trial successes and his 2003 financial disclosure forms showed a total <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_worth" title="Net worth">net worth</a> between $12.8 and $60 million.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards#_note-1">[2]</a> Edwards was criticized for paying himself mostly through subchapter S corporate dividends, rather than a salary, to take advantage of a tax-law loophole that allowed him to avoid paying $591,000 in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)" title="Medicare (United States)">Medicare</a> taxes; Edwards claimed that he chose the subchapter S structure to protect his assets from liability.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards#_note-2">[3]</a>Edwards' first important case was a 1984 medical malpractice lawsuit. In that case, Edwards won a $3.7 million verdict on behalf of his client who suffered permanent brain and nerve damage after a doctor prescribed a drug overdose of anti-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism" title="Alcoholism">alcoholism</a> drug <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antabuse" title="Antabuse">Antabuse</a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards#_note-findlaw">[4]</a> In 1985, Edwards obtained a $5.75 million settlement i

Yerdaddy

03-04-2007, 05:44 AM

nevnut wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: NortonRules wrote: How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.    Show me the liberal equivalent of this - a public political figure on national television calling Roberts a faggot for no good reason. Show me the liberal/Democrat equivalent or shut the fuck up. There is none because there is no liberal equivalent to Fox News which has lowered the standard for rational and civil debate in this country to the level of a junior high school cafeteria. At no other time in America's history has there been such a prominent and influential mainstream propaganda organization that has changed the political culture as much as Fox News and right-wing talk radio. Conservative media and you fucking retarded hate-mongers who believe them and make them money are fucking up my country and I'm sick of it. If I catch you lying I'm going to call you on it. I'm not going to pretend you're fringe freaks anymore. So you say her liberal and Democrat counterparts do the same thing, then post the equivalent or or shut your fucking mouth you Nazi wannabe.CBS or NPROK, we'll have a little contest. You post ad-hominem insults by democrats and liberals on CBS and NPR and I'll post them from conservatives on Fox. You can use both, I'll use just the one. Whoever can find the most wins. Loser agrees to never post in the politics forum again. You up for it?

nevnut

03-04-2007, 05:55 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: nevnut wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: NortonRules wrote: How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.    Show me the liberal equivalent of this - a public political figure on national television calling Roberts a faggot for no good reason. Show me the liberal/Democrat equivalent or shut the fuck up. There is none because there is no liberal equivalent to Fox News which has lowered the standard for rational and civil debate in this country to the level of a junior high school cafeteria. At no other time in America's history has there been such a prominent and influential mainstream propaganda organization that has changed the political culture as much as Fox News and right-wing talk radio. Conservative media and you fucking retarded hate-mongers who believe them and make them money are fucking up my country and I'm sick of it. If I catch you lying I'm going to call you on it. I'm not going to pretend you're fringe freaks anymore. So you say her liberal and Democrat counterparts do the same thing, then post the equivalent or or shut your fucking mouth you Nazi wannabe.CBS or NPROK, we'll have a little contest. You post ad-hominem insults by democrats and liberals on CBS and NPR and I'll post them from conservatives on Fox. You can use both, I'll use just the one. Whoever can find the most wins. Loser agrees to never post in the politics forum again. You up for it?Got better things to do on this morn' than spend my time tryin' to prove you wrong.Every one is entitled to thier opinion and mine is CBS and NPR among others has an agenda and that agenda is hurting America (in my opinion) not helping.It don't make me a bad person!

Yerdaddy

03-04-2007, 06:07 AM

nevnut wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: nevnut wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: NortonRules wrote: How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.    Show me the liberal equivalent of this - a public political figure on national television calling Roberts a faggot for no good reason. Show me the liberal/Democrat equivalent or shut the fuck up. There is none because there is no liberal equivalent to Fox News which has lowered the standard for rational and civil debate in this country to the level of a junior high school cafeteria. At no other time in America's history has there been such a prominent and influential mainstream propaganda organization that has changed the political culture as much as Fox News and right-wing talk radio. Conservative media and you fucking retarded hate-mongers who believe them and make them money are fucking up my country and I'm sick of it. If I catch you lying I'm going to call you on it. I'm not going to pretend you're fringe freaks anymore. So you say her liberal and Democrat counterparts do the same thing, then post the equivalent or or shut your fucking mouth you Nazi wannabe.CBS or NPROK, we'll have a little contest. You post ad-hominem insults by democrats and liberals on CBS and NPR and I'll post them from conservatives on Fox. You can use both, I'll use just the one. Whoever can find the most wins. Loser agrees to never post in the politics forum again. You up for it?Got better things to do on this morn' than spend my time tryin' to prove you wrong.Every one is entitled to thier opinion and mine is CBS and NPR among others has an agenda and that agenda is hurting America (in my opinion) not helping.It don't make me a bad person!I'm not wrong. You are entitled to your opinion. Mine is that your opinion sucks. You aren't a bad person. It's politics and not personal. For the record the challenge goes out to anyone who wants to take it. I'll put ABC, CBS, NBC and NPR up against Fox "News" for ad-hominem personal attacks. Loser leaves the forum.

Bulldogcakes

03-04-2007, 06:12 AM

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx9Bi3C4rs8&mode=related&search=">VIDEO THAT STARTED IT ALL...</a> A weak attempt at stand up draws all this attention.      

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nevnut

03-04-2007, 06:16 AM

Bulldogcakes wrote: Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference before an overflow crowd on Friday, Ms. Coulter said, “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/e/john_edwards/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about John Edwards.">John Edwards</a>, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.” She really should get out of Politics and into stand up. That's just funny. Especially with the all too predictable reaction from the usual suspects on the left, who take her seriously. Now its even funnier.  Exactly.  Anyone who really takes Ann seriously is themselves a nut-job.And if want my opinion, I think Edwards is a fag and I don't want a fag running the country.That doesn't mean I agree with everything Coulter says, I just can't stand the guy.

Brad_Rush

03-04-2007, 06:20 AM

nevnut

03-04-2007, 06:27 AM

Brad_Rush wrote: nevnut wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote: Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference before an overflow crowd on Friday, Ms. Coulter said, “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/e/john_edwards/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about John Edwards.">John Edwards</a>, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.” She really should get out of Politics and into stand up. That's just funny. Especially with the all too predictable reaction from the usual suspects on the left, who take her seriously. Now its even funnier.  Exactly.  Anyone who really takes Ann seriously is themselves a nut-job.And if want my opinion, I think Edwards is a fag and I don't want a fag running the country.That doesn't mean I agree with everything Coulter says, I just can't stand the guy.I can't imagine any "Fag" could do a worse job than good ol' GWB. And I hope you realize you are a bigot sir.This message was edited by Brad_Rush on 3-4-07 @ 10:21 AM Because I don't like Edwards of because I used the word "Fag"?Sorry if I offended you but I have nothing against gays or anyone.  To me, fag doesn't necessarily mean you're gay but just generally a worthless piece of shit.

Brad_Rush

03-04-2007, 06:31 AM

nevnut wrote: Brad_Rush wrote: nevnut wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote: Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference before an overflow crowd on Friday, Ms. Coulter said, “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/e/john_edwards/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about John Edwards.">John Edwards</a>, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.” She really should get out of Politics and into stand up. That's just funny. Especially with the all too predictable reaction from the usual suspects on the left, who take her seriously. Now its even funnier.  Exactly.  Anyone who really takes Ann seriously is themselves a nut-job.And if want my opinion, I think Edwards is a fag and I don't want a fag running the country.That doesn't mean I agree with everything Coulter says, I just can't stand the guy.I can't imagine any "Fag" could do a worse job than good ol' GWB. And I hope you realize you are a bigot sir.This message was edited by Brad_Rush on 3-4-07 @ 10:21 AM Because I don't like Edwards of because I used the word "Fag"?Sorry if I offended you but I have nothing against gays or anyone.  To me, fag doesn't necessarily mean you're gay but just generally a worthless piece of shit.Kinda like saying 'When I say N's, I don't mean blacks, just the worthless ones... I stand by my statement.

nevnut

03-04-2007, 06:36 AM

Brad_Rush wrote: nevnut wrote: Brad_Rush wrote: nevnut wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote: Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference before an overflow crowd on Friday, Ms. Coulter said, “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/e/john_edwards/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about John Edwards.">John Edwards</a>, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.” She really should get out of Politics and into stand up. That's just funny. Especially with the all too predictable reaction from the usual suspects on the left, who take her seriously. Now its even funnier.  Exactly.  Anyone who really takes Ann seriously is themselves a nut-job.And if want my opinion, I think Edwards is a fag and I don't want a fag running the country.That doesn't mean I agree with everything Coulter says, I just can't stand the guy.I can't imagine any "Fag" could do a worse job than good ol' GWB. And I hope you realize you are a bigot sir.This message was edited by Brad_Rush on 3-4-07 @ 10:21 AM Because I don't like Edwards of because I used the word "Fag"?Sorry if I offended you but I have nothing against gays or anyone.  To me, fag doesn't necessarily mean you're gay but just generally a worthless piece of shit.Kinda like saying 'When I say N's, I don't mean blacks, just the worthless ones... I stand by my statement.OK, fine.Edwards , in my opinion, is a FUCKING WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!!There, do you feel better!

Bulldogcakes

03-04-2007, 06:55 AM

Actually, after SEEING the video for myself, I edited out my previous comments. It was funnier on paper than it was live. It was a pretty weak attenmpt at stand up, and she should def keep her day job.

Death Metal Moe

03-04-2007, 07:25 AM

I'm done even reacting to Ann Coulter.  She's a Shock Columnist or Shock Whatever job she currently holds.  What the fuck is she?  I guess she's just a Shock Talking Head.But as others have said in this thread, she's doing it for attention.  Her name hasn't been in the news in a long time and she got more and more risque with her statements until finally she had to use the word "faggot" to get a response.Congrats Ann.<img src="http://tesla.liketelevision.com/liketelevision/images/lowrez/bubboy212.jpg" border="0" width="211" height="159" />"Now, you're a cunt."

KennethC

03-04-2007, 07:28 AM

nevnut wrote: Got better things to do on this morn' than spend my time tryin' to prove you wrong.Every one is entitled to thier opinion and mine is CBS and NPR among others has an agenda and that agenda is hurting America (in my opinion) not helping.It don't make me a bad person!Big bad NPR! The slippery slope starts with 'pledge week' and eventually we'll have Ira Glass and Garrison Keillor coming around door to door to take our guns away. Terry Gross is the new Bernadette Dohrn! After the revolution, "All Things Considered" will change it's name to the "Put on Your Grey Uniform and Sing to Your Tractor" show.

shittyhambrgers

03-04-2007, 08:36 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: I'm done even reacting to Ann Coulter. She's a Shock Columnist or Shock Whatever job she currently holds. What the fuck is she? I guess she's just a Shock Talking Head.But as others have said in this thread, she's doing it for attention. Her name hasn't been in the news in a long time and she got more and more risque with her statements until finally she had to use the word "faggot" to get a response.Congrats Ann.thaaaaank you.  she's just another 'gimme my 15 minutes of youtube fame' whore.

high fly

03-04-2007, 11:24 AM

Fat_Sunny wrote: high fly wrote:Has Edwards' "talk" ever denied he was wealthy or had a big house?Maybe Fat can give us a list of recent presidents who were poor before they ran for the presidency.Still waiting for Fat to explain why it is "phony" for a multimillionaire to have a big housepssst, Hey Fat! He probably has more than one car, too! This message was edited by high fly on 3-4-07 @ 1:03 AM If High Fly And His Buddies Do Not See The IRONY In The Author Of The "Two Americas" Speech Building The Largest House In North Carolina For A Reported 6 Million Dollars, While He Is Simultaneously Running For President As The Champion Of Those 'Left Behind', Then There Is Nothing F_S Can Say!  F_S Can Start By Saying F_S Is Wrong.The House John Edwards Had Built Would Be A Decent Gate House For The Guards At The Foot Of The Mountain Where The Biltmore Estate Is In North Carolina.The Biltmore is so big, an entire town was constructed for the workers who built it!F_S needs to get his facts straight.

high fly

03-04-2007, 11:27 AM

Death Metal Moe wrote: I'm done even reacting to Ann Coulter.  She's a Shock Columnist or Shock Whatever job she currently holds.  What the fuck is she?  I guess she's just a Shock Talking Head.But as others have said in this thread, she's doing it for attention.  Her name hasn't been in the news in a long time and she got more and more risque with her statements until finally she had to use the word "faggot" to get a response.Congrats Ann.<img src="http://tesla.liketelevision.com/liketelevision/images/lowrez/bubboy212.jpg" border="0" width="211" height="159" />"Now, you're a cunt."Once again, Death Metal Moe is right on the money!

led37zep

03-04-2007, 11:50 AM

Dear Everyone,  If you know anything about Ann she thrives off this.  She knew what she was doing when she said it...watch the video...you can see it in her face. Nobody should be shocked by this.Personally it made me laugh...you just don't hear the word "faggot" tossed around in politics.  I'll always laugh when  grown ups return to school yard insults.  Poop.

Fat_Sunny

03-04-2007, 03:57 PM

high fly wrote:F_S Can Start By Saying F_S Is Wrong.The House John Edwards Had Built Would Be A Decent Gate House For The Guards At The Foot Of The Mountain Where The Biltmore Estate Is In North Carolina.The Biltmore is so big, an entire town was constructed for the workers who built it!F_S needs to get his facts straight.Fat Does Not Have The Advantage Of "having relatives who are significant political players there".  High Fly Is Blessed To Have Relatives Who Are Significant Players; Fat's Relatives Are Insignificant.Oh Yeah, You Forgot To Answer Who These Significant Players Are.  It Will Help To Understand Your Agenda.

BLZBUBBA

03-04-2007, 04:11 PM

She said she wanted to talk about John Edwards but you have to go to rehab if you use the word faggot?I was going to call ann coulter a cunt but I hear you have to go to rehab for using that word. See more of Ann in HUSTLER.  PLENTY of cartoons.  And uh....not very flattering.

ralphbxny

03-04-2007, 05:33 PM

led37zep wrote: Dear Everyone,  If you know anything about Ann she thrives off this.  She knew what she was doing when she said it...watch the video...you can see it in her face. Nobody should be shocked by this.Personally it made me laugh...you just don't hear the word "faggot" tossed around in politics.  I'll always laugh when  grown ups return to school yard insults.  Poop. I think I saw her in a bukake Video and she had that same face.

foodcourtdruide

03-04-2007, 06:15 PM

nevnut wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: NortonRules wrote: How come it's ok for every Democrat/Liberal on and off of TV to take personal shots at GWB and Dick Cheney?  Coulter has an opinion like everyone else.  Please stop crying long enough to see that you, the liberal Ronfez.net do the same thing every day.    Show me the liberal equivalent of this - a public political figure on national television calling Roberts a faggot for no good reason. Show me the liberal/Democrat equivalent or shut the fuck up. There is none because there is no liberal equivalent to Fox News which has lowered the standard for rational and civil debate in this country to the level of a junior high school cafeteria. At no other time in America's history has there been such a prominent and influential mainstream propaganda organization that has changed the political culture as much as Fox News and right-wing talk radio. Conservative media and you fucking retarded hate-mongers who believe them and make them money are fucking up my country and I'm sick of it. If I catch you lying I'm going to call you on it. I'm not going to pretend you're fringe freaks anymore. So you say her liberal and Democrat counterparts do the same thing, then post the equivalent or or shut your fucking mouth you Nazi wannabe.CBS or NPRHave you ever even listend to NPR? Which conservative talk show host told you that NPR is biased? Did you know that part of NPR's mandate is for its hosts not to express political opinions? I REALLY want to know why you think NPR has a liberal bias. Please tell us.

Yerdaddy

03-04-2007, 07:15 PM

Most conservatives on here started out repeating and expanding on Coulter's insult then, when challenged backtracked to claiming she's insignificant. In the process we all wasted our time debating the issue and also the threshold for what we consider acceptable public political debate was lowered. This is Ann Coulter's job. She's a stalking horse for conservativism. She says extreme things that would be unacceptable for minastream conservatives to say, gets press, keeps conservatives defending and repeating what she says (and they'll be repeated later on - for example if Edwards wins the nomination conservatives will be on here calling him a faggot a year from now) and she allows the more mainstream conservative zealots on Fox "News" and right-wing radio (and other cable networks) to shft to more extreme vitriol themselves - as long as they're not as bad as Coulter they're not punished or restrained. She has a vital role in the direction and tactics of mainstream conservative propaganda. She's a stalking horse. If Fox were a reputable news agency she would be barred from ever appearing again. It would have happened long ago in fact. But instead they keep her coming back because they share her ideological goals and they know she's a valuable commodity as a stalking horse. If individual conservatives disaproved of this lowering of the standards of what is considered legitimate public political debate they would let Fox "News" know by writing letters or turning it off. Obviously most don't so she's a regular there. And as long as she's a regular on Fox she's mainstream and she will have access to other mainstream venues to do her job. So, yes, this is schoolyard childish badmouthing. But it's also a deliberate strategy on the part of conservative media - and probably political - leaders to control the public debate and keep their base mobilized to win political power. And it also helps keep people from talking about Iraq - the conservative war that conservatives lost.Bottom line is: Coulter is the extremist face of mainstream conservatism. There is no liberal equivalent. And conservatism, as it exists today, is fucking up America. And the only way for it to change is for you conservatives to stop tolerating it. In the meantime you're hurting America and fuck you all for that. I'll give praise where praise is due. I'll be civil whenever possible. But this is actually happening and it is actually changing the country for the worse, making it possible for extremists to enter the White House and Congress and the federal bureocracy and give us things like dead soldiers and incresed terrorism, so yeah, take some some responsibility before we start goose-stepping and buying sharp leather uniforms for our military.

Dudeman

03-04-2007, 07:23 PM

Death Metal Moe wrote: I'm done even reacting to Ann Coulter. She's a Shock Columnist or Shock Whatever job she currently holds. What the fuck is she? I guess she's just a Shock Talking Head.But as others have said in this thread, she's doing it for attention. Her name hasn't been in the news in a long time and she got more and more risque with her statements until finally she had to use the word "faggot" to get a response.Congrats Ann. "Now, you're a cunt." the issue isnt really ann coulter.  it is that this group that is relatively influential in the Republican party- that has most of the top Republican party candidates for President of the United States trying to get their support- could invite this stupid, for lack of a better word, to speak at their national meeting.

SinA

03-04-2007, 07:37 PM

not to pick on the thread itself, but she called him a faggot (indirectly), that's not a bad name really, although she intended it to be.  it's not true for one, but more importantly it's just a slang term for being gay.  being gay isn't a bad thing.knowingly saying that thinking it was a bad name makes ann coulter a bigot.bigot is a bad thing, and ann coulter is the name of a bigot.  if she were dead in my basement i would piss in her lifeless throat.

This message was edited by SinA on 3-4-07 @ 11:38 PM

ShowerBench

03-04-2007, 08:27 PM

mudeater wrote: You have to expect a crazy broad to say something crazy when you put her on tv, and you can pretty much tell this bitch is crazy by just looking at herShe looks like my stepmother, eeesh It looks like my StepFATHER.<img src="http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/oneifbyland/coulter.jpg?t=1173072407" border="0" alt="coulter.jpg" width="350" height="450" />

Fat_Sunny

03-04-2007, 08:33 PM

ShowerBench wrote: It looks like my StepFATHER.<img src="http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w294/oneifbyland/coulter.jpg?t=1173072407" border="0" alt="coulter.jpg" width="350" height="450" />Exactly!  See The Thread On HANDSOME WOMEN!

spoon

03-04-2007, 09:51 PM

nevnut wrote: Bulldogcakes wrote: Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference before an overflow crowd on Friday, Ms. Coulter said, “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/e/john_edwards/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about John Edwards.">John Edwards</a>, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.” She really should get out of Politics and into stand up. That's just funny. Especially with the all too predictable reaction from the usual suspects on the left, who take her seriously. Now its even funnier.  Exactly.  Anyone who really takes Ann seriously is themselves a nut-job.And if want my opinion, I think Edwards is a fag and I don't want a fag running the country.That doesn't mean I agree with everything Coulter says, I just can't stand the guy.Nothing is more faggy than an old hippie in 2007 that can't back up his claims at all.  You backed down bc it's impossible to prove your statements.  Just bc those two channels report on the issues that happen to make the current administration look bad doesn't mean it's the same as calling someone a faggot just because she disagrees with their politics.  Fox is nothing more than a farce in it's own right and even their supposed balanced shows like Hannity and Combs/O'Reilly are extremely right wing.  It just baffels me as to how people just dismiss this as politics any more.  To me, our country is on a huge downward spiral and the line that Edwards and many other Dems/Inds speak of bt the haves and the have nots continues to widen as the middle class disappears.

spoon

03-04-2007, 10:00 PM

Yerdaddy wrote: Most conservatives on here started out repeating and expanding on Coulter's insult then, when challenged backtracked to claiming she's insignificant. In the process we all wasted our time debating the issue and also the threshold for what we consider acceptable public political debate was lowered. This is Ann Coulter's job. She's a stalking horse for conservativism. She says extreme things that would be unacceptable for minastream conservatives to say, gets press, keeps conservatives defending and repeating what she says (and they'll be repeated later on - for example if Edwards wins the nomination conservatives will be on here calling him a faggot a year from now) and she allows the more mainstream conservative zealots on Fox "News" and right-wing radio (and other cable networks) to shft to more extreme vitriol themselves - as long as they're not as bad as Coulter they're not punished or restrained. She has a vital role in the direction and tactics of mainstream conservative propaganda. She's a stalking horse. If Fox were a reputable news agency she would be barred from ever appearing again. It would have happened long ago in fact. But instead they keep her coming back because they share her ideological goals and they know she's a valuable commodity as a stalking horse. If individual conservatives disaproved of this lowering of the standards of what is considered legitimate public political debate they would let Fox "News" know by writing letters or turning it off. Obviously most don't so she's a regular there. And as long as she's a regular on Fox she's mainstream and she will have access to other mainstream venues to do her job. So, yes, this is schoolyard childish badmouthing. But it's also a deliberate strategy on the part of conservative media - and probably political - leaders to control the public debate and keep their base mobilized to win political power. And it also helps keep people from talking about Iraq - the conservative war that conservatives lost.Bottom line is: Coulter is the extremist face of mainstream conservatism. There is no liberal equivalent. And conservatism, as it exists today, is fucking up America. And the only way for it to change is for you conservatives to stop tolerating it. In the meantime you're hurting America and fuck you all for that. I'll give praise where praise is due. I'll be civil whenever possible. But this is actually happening and it is actually changing the country for the worse, making it possible for extremists to enter the White House and Congress and the federal bureocracy and give us things like dead soldiers and incresed terrorism, so yeah, take some some responsibility before we start goose-stepping and buying sharp leather uniforms for our military.That's funny for two reasons.  It's exactly the tact they took with the Swift Boat dicks, along with the "Breck Girl" comment and now we've moved up to "faggot" (indirectly, she's so savvy!).  The second reason is bc Ladyboy just broke my record for longest sentence in that highlight!!  Congrats, you win your very own home razor show!

spoon

03-04-2007, 10:04 PM

SinA wrote:  not to pick on the thread itself, but she called him a faggot (indirectly), that's not a bad name really, although she intended it to be.  it's not true for one, but more importantly it's just a slang term for being gay.  being gay isn't a bad thing.knowingly saying that thinking it was a bad name makes ann coulter a bigot.bigot is a bad thing, and ann coulter is the name of a bigot.  if she were dead in my basement i would piss in her lifeless throat.This message was edited by SinA on 3-4-07 @ 11:38 PM Nice finish!  I'd like to add that this is the one up for the "Breck Girl" label they put on him last time.  They hope it sticks and will do all they can to make it so.  Middle America (the average voter there) only needs to here this a few times and he's done there bc Fox is the only place they get their news.  It's worse than when Liberals get there news from The Daily Show, but at least they have their facts straight there and don't hide the fact that it's a fucking comedy show, not news!

high fly

03-04-2007, 11:12 PM

Fat_Sunny wrote: high fly wrote:F_S Can Start By Saying F_S Is Wrong.The House John Edwards Had Built Would Be A Decent Gate House For The Guards At The Foot Of The Mountain Where The Biltmore Estate Is In North Carolina.The Biltmore is so big, an entire town was constructed for the workers who built it!F_S needs to get his facts straight.Fat Does Not Have The Advantage Of "having relatives who are significant political players there".  High Fly Is Blessed To Have Relatives Who Are Significant Players; Fat's Relatives Are Insignificant.Oh Yeah, You Forgot To Answer Who These Significant Players Are.  It Will Help To Understand Your Agenda.   Fat is having trouble concentrating.The largest residence in North Carolina is the Biltmore.I'm sure you can find it on the web somewheres.Fat needs to admit he was wrong or he can't watch cartoons or play with his tinker toys.

FMJeff

03-04-2007, 11:13 PM

I'm not offended so much by the ridiculous bitch as I am the crowd that reacted to her vitriole with laughs and applause. Agree with Yerdaddy here. No dignity whatsoever. Any house of reasonable people would have and should have booed her hateful ass out the door. Speaks volumes. When did it become ok to call a United States Senator and presidential candidate a faggot in this country? Why are you laughing and applauding you baseless pieces of shit? I am happy that every side has come out to denounce this whore, including spokespeople for all the candidates, GOP and democrat. On a sidenote, we get it Fat. You talk in the third person. We GET it. Enough already.

high fly

03-04-2007, 11:28 PM

Brings back a vague memory of when some right-wing congresswoman tried to call another member  traitor on the House floor about a year ago and it took about one second for the place to erupt in protest.Coulter shoulda been booed off the stage. I won't be replying to Fat any more. RF.net needs a children's forum.

This message was edited by high fly on 3-5-07 @ 3:30 AM

BLZBUBBA

03-05-2007, 07:30 PM

I expect nothing but worse.  As the years go on...and she's started losing her looks (as though she had any...my con friends think she's hot shit)...anyway.  As the years have passed she has gotten more and more.....OUTRAGEOUS!  And SHOCKING! What bothers me is CNN and those other news networks keep covering her nonsense.  Calling someone a faggot as a matter of an attack is high school.  And the conservative crowd applauded THAT?  Someone should have just published the scribblings on a truckstop's bathroom walls and handed it out in book form.  Compared to her name-calling it would be literary genius. 

Fezticle98

03-05-2007, 07:40 PM

It pleases me to know that whomever I vote for, it will piss her off.

Bulldogcakes

03-06-2007, 02:22 AM

FMJeff wrote: I'm not offended so much by the ridiculous bitch as I am the crowd that reacted to her vitriole with laughs and applause. A little context here, that was the closing remark in a speech loaded with tongue in cheek one liners.  So the applause is misleading, it wasn't for just that one comment. And your news sources who didn't point that out either A) Misled you either intentionally B) Are blinded by bias and didn't think that matters C) Didn't bother getting all the facts.

spoon

03-06-2007, 02:26 AM

.....A) Misled you either intentionally B) Are blinded by bias and didn't think that matters C) Didn't bother getting all the facts. Man, this sounds like a synopsis of any of her books to date.

nevnut

03-06-2007, 03:10 AM

sailor

03-06-2007, 03:10 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: Most conservatives on here started out repeating and expanding on Coulter's insult then, when challenged backtracked to claiming she's insignificant. In the process we all wasted our time debating the issue and also the threshold for what we consider acceptable public political debate was lowered. This is Ann Coulter's job. She's a stalking horse for conservativism. She says extreme things that would be unacceptable for minastream conservatives to say, gets press, keeps conservatives defending and repeating what she says (and they'll be repeated later on - for example if Edwards wins the nomination conservatives will be on here calling him a faggot a year from now) and she allows the more mainstream conservative zealots on Fox "News" and right-wing radio (and other cable networks) to shft to more extreme vitriol themselves - as long as they're not as bad as Coulter they're not punished or restrained. She has a vital role in the direction and tactics of mainstream conservative propaganda. She's a stalking horse. If Fox were a reputable news agency she would be barred from ever appearing again. It would have happened long ago in fact. But instead they keep her coming back because they share her ideological goals and they know she's a valuable commodity as a stalking horse. If individual conservatives disaproved of this lowering of the standards of what is considered legitimate public political debate they would let Fox "News" know by writing letters or turning it off. Obviously most don't so she's a regular there. And as long as she's a regular on Fox she's mainstream and she will have access to other mainstream venues to do her job. So, yes, this is schoolyard childish badmouthing. But it's also a deliberate strategy on the part of conservative media - and probably political - leaders to control the public debate and keep their base mobilized to win political power. And it also helps keep people from talking about Iraq - the conservative war that conservatives lost.Bottom line is: Coulter is the extremist face of mainstream conservatism. There is no liberal equivalent. And conservatism, as it exists today, is fucking up America. And the only way for it to change is for you conservatives to stop tolerating it. In the meantime you're hurting America and fuck you all for that. I'll give praise where praise is due. I'll be civil whenever possible. But this is actually happening and it is actually changing the country for the worse, making it possible for extremists to enter the White House and Congress and the federal bureocracy and give us things like dead soldiers and incresed terrorism, so yeah, take some some responsibility before we start goose-stepping and buying sharp leather uniforms for our military. whatever you think of it, it was a joke.  how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore?

sailor

03-06-2007, 03:12 AM

FMJeff wrote: I'm not offended so much by the ridiculous bitch as I am the crowd that reacted to her vitriole with laughs and applause. Agree with Yerdaddy here. No dignity whatsoever. Any house of reasonable people would have and should have booed her hateful ass out the door. Speaks volumes. When did it become ok to call a United States Senator and presidential candidate a faggot in this country? Why are you laughing and applauding you baseless pieces of shit? I am happy that every side has come out to denounce this whore, including spokespeople for all the candidates, GOP and democrat. On a sidenote, we get it Fat. You talk in the third person. We GET it. Enough already.  it was funny.  if it came out of a liberal's mouth directed at a conservative, my opinion would not change.  would yours?

KnoxHarrington

03-06-2007, 03:38 AM

sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: Most conservatives on here started out repeating and expanding on Coulter's insult then, when challenged backtracked to claiming she's insignificant. In the process we all wasted our time debating the issue and also the threshold for what we consider acceptable public political debate was lowered. This is Ann Coulter's job. She's a stalking horse for conservativism. She says extreme things that would be unacceptable for minastream conservatives to say, gets press, keeps conservatives defending and repeating what she says (and they'll be repeated later on - for example if Edwards wins the nomination conservatives will be on here calling him a faggot a year from now) and she allows the more mainstream conservative zealots on Fox "News" and right-wing radio (and other cable networks) to shft to more extreme vitriol themselves - as long as they're not as bad as Coulter they're not punished or restrained. She has a vital role in the direction and tactics of mainstream conservative propaganda. She's a stalking horse. If Fox were a reputable news agency she would be barred from ever appearing again. It would have happened long ago in fact. But instead they keep her coming back because they share her ideological goals and they know she's a valuable commodity as a stalking horse. If individual conservatives disaproved of this lowering of the standards of what is considered legitimate public political debate they would let Fox "News" know by writing letters or turning it off. Obviously most don't so she's a regular there. And as long as she's a regular on Fox she's mainstream and she will have access to other mainstream venues to do her job. So, yes, this is schoolyard childish badmouthing. But it's also a deliberate strategy on the part of conservative media - and probably political - leaders to control the public debate and keep their base mobilized to win political power. And it also helps keep people from talking about Iraq - the conservative war that conservatives lost.Bottom line is: Coulter is the extremist face of mainstream conservatism. There is no liberal equivalent. And conservatism, as it exists today, is fucking up America. And the only way for it to change is for you conservatives to stop tolerating it. In the meantime you're hurting America and fuck you all for that. I'll give praise where praise is due. I'll be civil whenever possible. But this is actually happening and it is actually changing the country for the worse, making it possible for extremists to enter the White House and Congress and the federal bureocracy and give us things like dead soldiers and incresed terrorism, so yeah, take some some responsibility before we start goose-stepping and buying sharp leather uniforms for our military. whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? 

So, when was the last time Al Franken called, say, Mitt Romney a "fudge packing Mormon fuck" at an official Democratic party function?

The right can't have it both ways with Ann "Hey Big Dick Daddy" Coulter. You can't put her on Fox as a "political analyst" and have her speak at Republican party functions and then say "But she's just a comedian!" when she says dumb shit.

sailor

03-06-2007, 05:00 AM

KnoxHarrington wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore?   So, when was the last time Al Franken called, say, Mitt Romney a "fudge packing Mormon fuck" at an official Democratic party function? The right can't have it both ways with Ann "Hey Big Dick Daddy" Coulter. You can't put her on Fox as a "political analyst" and have her speak at Republican party functions and then say "But she's just a comedian!" when she says dumb shit. she's not a comedian, but she's not a serious analyst either.edit: al franken:  Minnesota Republican Norman Coleman is one of the administration's leading butt boys.-- The Truth (With Jokes) p. 262 

This message was edited by sailor on 3-6-07 @ 9:11 AM

TheMojoPin

03-06-2007, 05:14 AM

sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: Most conservatives on here started out repeating and expanding on Coulter's insult then, when challenged backtracked to claiming she's insignificant. In the process we all wasted our time debating the issue and also the threshold for what we consider acceptable public political debate was lowered. This is Ann Coulter's job. She's a stalking horse for conservativism. She says extreme things that would be unacceptable for minastream conservatives to say, gets press, keeps conservatives defending and repeating what she says (and they'll be repeated later on - for example if Edwards wins the nomination conservatives will be on here calling him a faggot a year from now) and she allows the more mainstream conservative zealots on Fox "News" and right-wing radio (and other cable networks) to shft to more extreme vitriol themselves - as long as they're not as bad as Coulter they're not punished or restrained. She has a vital role in the direction and tactics of mainstream conservative propaganda. She's a stalking horse. If Fox were a reputable news agency she would be barred from ever appearing again. It would have happened long ago in fact. But instead they keep her coming back because they share her ideological goals and they know she's a valuable commodity as a stalking horse. If individual conservatives disaproved of this lowering of the standards of what is considered legitimate public political debate they would let Fox "News" know by writing letters or turning it off. Obviously most don't so she's a regular there. And as long as she's a regular on Fox she's mainstream and she will have access to other mainstream venues to do her job. So, yes, this is schoolyard childish badmouthing. But it's also a deliberate strategy on the part of conservative media - and probably political - leaders to control the public debate and keep their base mobilized to win political power. And it also helps keep people from talking about Iraq - the conservative war that conservatives lost.Bottom line is: Coulter is the extremist face of mainstream conservatism. There is no liberal equivalent. And conservatism, as it exists today, is fucking up America. And the only way for it to change is for you conservatives to stop tolerating it. In the meantime you're hurting America and fuck you all for that. I'll give praise where praise is due. I'll be civil whenever possible. But this is actually happening and it is actually changing the country for the worse, making it possible for extremists to enter the White House and Congress and the federal bureocracy and give us things like dead soldiers and incresed terrorism, so yeah, take some some responsibility before we start goose-stepping and buying sharp leather uniforms for our military. whatever you think of it, it was a joke.  how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? Of course.  I'm sorry you seem to think it's so unusual for someone on that level of public speaking to have the self control to not call someone a "faggot."

sailor

03-06-2007, 05:20 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? Of course. I'm sorry you seem to think it's so unusual for someone on that level of public speaking to have the self control to not call someone a "faggot." not answering the question.  and she didn't exactly call him a faggot.

AKA

03-06-2007, 05:53 AM

sailor wrote: it was a joke. Was it?how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? she isn't funny or creative - unless you are an old, white man with dick problems and relate more to Dean Wormer and Neidermeyer than you do with the Delta House.she is a flame-thrower who has a history of saying cruel and hateful things to get a rise out of people - as someone who worked with family members of rescue workers from WTC and the Pentagon I will never forgive this little gem: "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much"As someone else said earlier in this thread, I'm actually much more offended by the reaction of some of the Blinded by the Right crowd on here, than her actual comments. Instead of worrying about Franken, Stewart and Moore, a more accurate side-by-side comparrison should be drawn with the flap over two left-wing bloggers who quit the Edwards campaign amid criticism of their past anti-Catholic rhetoric.You don't see Lefties in the media, or on the net, tripping over themselves making excuses, saying it was just a joke, applauding their comments, or defending their first ammendment rights like the hypocrites on the far right are doing with Coulter. THANKFULLY there are plenty on the Right offended by her - that's the only way this would have ever really make the news. 

This message was edited by AKA on 3-6-07 @ 9:57 AM

Yerdaddy

03-06-2007, 06:12 AM

sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: Most conservatives on here started out repeating and expanding on Coulter's insult then, when challenged backtracked to claiming she's insignificant. In the process we all wasted our time debating the issue and also the threshold for what we consider acceptable public political debate was lowered. This is Ann Coulter's job. She's a stalking horse for conservativism. She says extreme things that would be unacceptable for minastream conservatives to say, gets press, keeps conservatives defending and repeating what she says (and they'll be repeated later on - for example if Edwards wins the nomination conservatives will be on here calling him a faggot a year from now) and she allows the more mainstream conservative zealots on Fox "News" and right-wing radio (and other cable networks) to shft to more extreme vitriol themselves - as long as they're not as bad as Coulter they're not punished or restrained. She has a vital role in the direction and tactics of mainstream conservative propaganda. She's a stalking horse. If Fox were a reputable news agency she would be barred from ever appearing again. It would have happened long ago in fact. But instead they keep her coming back because they share her ideological goals and they know she's a valuable commodity as a stalking horse. If individual conservatives disaproved of this lowering of the standards of what is considered legitimate public political debate they would let Fox "News" know by writing letters or turning it off. Obviously most don't so she's a regular there. And as long as she's a regular on Fox she's mainstream and she will have access to other mainstream venues to do her job. So, yes, this is schoolyard childish badmouthing. But it's also a deliberate strategy on the part of conservative media - and probably political - leaders to control the public debate and keep their base mobilized to win political power. And it also helps keep people from talking about Iraq - the conservative war that conservatives lost.Bottom line is: Coulter is the extremist face of mainstream conservatism. There is no liberal equivalent. And conservatism, as it exists today, is fucking up America. And the only way for it to change is for you conservatives to stop tolerating it. In the meantime you're hurting America and fuck you all for that. I'll give praise where praise is due. I'll be civil whenever possible. But this is actually happening and it is actually changing the country for the worse, making it possible for extremists to enter the White House and Congress and the federal bureocracy and give us things like dead soldiers and incresed terrorism, so yeah, take some some responsibility before we start goose-stepping and buying sharp leather uniforms for our military. whatever you think of it, it was a joke.  how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? It wasn't a joke it was a bigotted insult and the main difference, among many other differences, is that the other three aren't stalking horses for their ideology.

sailor

03-06-2007, 06:12 AM

AKA wrote:  sailor wrote: it was a joke. Was it?how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? she isn't funny or creative - unless you are an old, white man with dick problems and relate more to Dean Wormer and Neidermeyer than you do with the Delta House.she is a flame-thrower who has a history of saying cruel and hateful things to get a rise out of people - as someone who worked with family members of rescue workers from WTC and the Pentagon I will never forgive this little gem: "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much"As someone else said earlier in this thread, I'm actually much more offended by the reaction of some of the Blinded by the Right crowd on here, than her actual comments. Instead of worrying about Franken, Stewart and Moore, a more accurate side-by-side comparrison should be drawn with the flap over two left-wing bloggers who quit the Edwards campaign amid criticism of their past anti-Catholic rhetoric.You don't see Lefties in the media, or on the net, tripping over themselves making excuses, saying it was just a joke, applauding their comments, or defending their first ammendment rights like the hypocrites on the far right are doing with Coulter. THANKFULLY there are plenty on the Right offended by her - that's the only way this would have ever really make the news. This message was edited by AKA on 3-6-07 @ 9:57 AM sorry, didn't realize i was "blinded by the right."  i think your comparison is NOTHING like my comparison of franken, et al.  your comparison is way off base.  she works for no campaign.  if she did, i could see her being asked to step down, even tho' i wouldn't agree with it.  (honestly i don't know anything of these bloggers or what they wrote).  again, i'm not offended by what she wrote, nor would i be if these words came out of a liberal's mouth directed at a conservative.  it has NOTHING to do with her ideology.  i think for you and others it has EVERYTHING to do with her being a republican.

Yerdaddy

03-06-2007, 06:15 AM

Oh and their ideology didn't lose a war.

sailor

03-06-2007, 06:15 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? It wasn't a joke it was a bigotted insult and the main difference, among many other differences, is that the other three aren't stalking horses for their ideology.  and franken's "butt boy" comment?  and i'd disagree about their various levels of importance.

TheMojoPin

03-06-2007, 06:27 AM

sailor wrote: TheMojoPin wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? Of course. I'm sorry you seem to think it's so unusual for someone on that level of public speaking to have the self control to not call someone a "faggot." not answering the question.  and she didn't exactly call him a faggot. Sorry, I read it wrong.  I totally glossed over your response and thought you were asking if we'd react the same way if they said what she said, and I would.  And she did call him that, let's not attempt to spin that way.  Saying, "oh, I can't call him a faggot" IS a "clever" way of calling him a faggot.And the difference is that Coulter has sought and has been propped up as an actual spokesperson for the extreme right, specifically the neo-cons.  Hardly anyone on the left views Moore or Franken et al as spokespeople for their ideaology.  We'll often agree with them, but at the end of the day they're still just a TV host or a radio host or a filmmaker or whatever.  Coulter and her ilk are looked to as if they actually represent someone.  You simply do not have the same "cult of pundits" on the left.

TheMojoPin

03-06-2007, 06:29 AM

Yerdaddy

03-06-2007, 06:35 AM

sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? It wasn't a joke it was a bigotted insult and the main difference, among many other differences, is that the other three aren't stalking horses for their ideology.  and franken's "butt boy" comment?  and i'd disagree about their various levels of importance. If you're trying to make an equivalency argument between them and her then don't ignore what I've written already. Franken's butt boy comment is meant to suggest a brown-noser, which is obvious from it's context. I'll agree it also has gay undertones. But Franken is on a bankrupt radio station. What he says on it is rarely repeated in the media because 1) he's never as inflamitory as Coulter, 2) he's on a bankrupt radio station (I think. Is it even still broadcasting), and rarely appears on television 3) he is a professional commedian who has only recently mixed politics with his comedy, and 4) the left does not have a mainstream cable network to make sure this stuff gets wide circulation (rather than the war and their responsibilities associated with it). Stewart has never been as inflamitory, is on Comedy Central, and Moore, when was the last time we even heard from him?

Fat_Sunny

03-06-2007, 06:39 AM

Franken Is A Politician.  He Is Going To Run For The Senate In Minnesota!

FezsAssistant

03-06-2007, 06:46 AM

I heard the audio.  She didn't call him a faggot.  Please stop only reading headlines.

cupcakelove

03-06-2007, 06:48 AM

Fez'sAssistant wrote: I heard the audio. She didn't call him a faggot. Please stop only reading headlines.  So did I, and yes she did.

TheMojoPin

03-06-2007, 06:49 AM

Fez'sAssistant wrote: I heard the audio.  She didn't call him a faggot.  Please stop only reading headlines.   “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot–so….’"

Knowledged_one

03-06-2007, 06:53 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? It wasn't a joke it was a bigotted insult and the main difference, among many other differences, is that the other three aren't stalking horses for their ideology.  and franken's "butt boy" comment?  and i'd disagree about their various levels of importance. If you're trying to make an equivalency argument between them and her then don't ignore what I've written already. Franken's butt boy comment is meant to suggest a brown-noser, which is obvious from it's context. I'll agree it also has gay undertones. But Franken is on a bankrupt radio station. What he says on it is rarely repeated in the media because 1) he's never as inflamitory as Coulter, 2) he's on a bankrupt radio station (I think. Is it even still broadcasting), and rarely appears on television 3) he is a professional commedian who has only recently mixed politics with his comedy, and 4) the left does not have a mainstream cable network to make sure this stuff gets wide circulation (rather than the war and their responsibilities associated with it). Stewart has never been as inflamitory, is on Comedy Central, and Moore, when was the last time we even heard from him?I think Couleter and Tim Hardaway are just doing this so they can get their own talk show togetherWell i would say that CNN does quite well for giving the left its chance to speakAnd your reasoning about the Al Franken comment is just your way to spin it as not being serious and is meant to reference brown nosing, take a look at it objectively and the comment is no different, and the fact that Al Franken is running for elected office i would say that makes it a bit worse wouldnt you and if you really want a stance al franken (again the man running for senate) try this one:"I just don't like homosexuals. If you ask me, they're all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia." (Mr. Franken, a 1973 graduate of Harvard, was referring to Harvard's Hasty Pudding theatrical club)." -- <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070220-122224-6807r.htm" target="_blank">Al Franken to the Harvard Crimson in 1976 via the Washington Times</a>So which one is OK?  I would probably say neither but Coulters is a lot less harsh then al franken being glad about a gay person dyingAnd really Micheal Moore is the worst of the worst he just blatantly lies and misrepresents the truth and that is in every movie he has ever done

FezsAssistant

03-06-2007, 06:54 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: If you're trying to make an equivalency argument between them and her then don't ignore what I've written already. Franken's butt boy comment is meant to suggest a brown-noser, which is obvious from it's context. I'll agree it also has gay undertones. But Franken is on a bankrupt radio station. What he says on it is rarely repeated in the media because 1) he's never as inflamitory as Coulter, 2) he's on a bankrupt radio station (I think. Is it even still broadcasting), and rarely appears on television 3) he is a professional commedian who has only recently mixed politics with his comedy, and 4) the left does not have a mainstream cable network to make sure this stuff gets wide circulation (rather than the war and their responsibilities associated with it). Stewart has never been as inflamitory, is on Comedy Central, and Moore, when was the last time we even heard from him?Franken only recently mixed politics and comedy?  You consider the 80's recently?  The left doesn't have a mainstream cable network?  How about NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Comedy Central, PBS and every single channel in existence besides FOX.  Stewart isn't considered inflammatory because it's considered ok to bash conservatives in the liberal mass media.

sailor

03-06-2007, 06:55 AM

Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? It wasn't a joke it was a bigotted insult and the main difference, among many other differences, is that the other three aren't stalking horses for their ideology. and franken's "butt boy" comment? and i'd disagree about their various levels of importance. If you're trying to make an equivalency argument between them and her then don't ignore what I've written already. Franken's butt boy comment is meant to suggest a brown-noser, which is obvious from it's context. I'll agree it also has gay undertones. But Franken is on a bankrupt radio station. What he says on it is rarely repeated in the media because 1) he's never as inflamitory as Coulter, 2) he's on a bankrupt radio station (I think. Is it even still broadcasting), and rarely appears on television 3) he is a professional commedian who has only recently mixed politics with his comedy, and 4) the left does not have a mainstream cable network to make sure this stuff gets wide circulation (rather than the war and their responsibilities associated with it). Stewart has never been as inflamitory, is on Comedy Central, and Moore, when was the last time we even heard from him? funny, i skimmed the middle pages and didn't see you comment on that.  my apologies.  i randomly found it searching the internet forquotes of his.  yes, i know what he meant by butt boy as well as what she meant by faggot.  neither offends me, but i don't see how someone wouldn't find butt boy worse, if you're going to be offended by either.now i see fat/sunny and fez's assistant are on my side...i retract all my previous posts.  burn the bitch at the stake.  how could i be so wrong?

foodcourtdruide

03-06-2007, 07:30 AM

Fez'sAssistant wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: If you're trying to make an equivalency argument between them and her then don't ignore what I've written already. Franken's butt boy comment is meant to suggest a brown-noser, which is obvious from it's context. I'll agree it also has gay undertones. But Franken is on a bankrupt radio station. What he says on it is rarely repeated in the media because 1) he's never as inflamitory as Coulter, 2) he's on a bankrupt radio station (I think. Is it even still broadcasting), and rarely appears on television 3) he is a professional commedian who has only recently mixed politics with his comedy, and 4) the left does not have a mainstream cable network to make sure this stuff gets wide circulation (rather than the war and their responsibilities associated with it). Stewart has never been as inflamitory, is on Comedy Central, and Moore, when was the last time we even heard from him?Franken only recently mixed politics and comedy?  You consider the 80's recently?  The left doesn't have a mainstream cable network?  How about NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Comedy Central, PBS and every single channel in existence besides FOX.  Stewart isn't considered inflammatory because it's considered ok to bash conservatives in the liberal mass media.  Please elaborate on this. This is an extremely vague accusation. Also, wasn't Franklin just writing for SNL until the late 90's? I didn't know he was political in the 80's.

EliSnow

03-06-2007, 07:41 AM

Fez'sAssistant wrote:  Stewart isn't considered inflammatory because it's considered ok to bash conservatives in the liberal mass media.  He isn't considered inflammatory because he doesn't use derogatory terms like "faggot" or call 911 victims attention whores.  There is a difference between inflammatory, derogatory speech that Coulter uses often, and government/political criticism that Stewart and the Daily Show practice.  And that's obvious when you see conservatives distance themselves from Coulter in the public.  Also, it's not like Stewart only bashes conservatives.  Like SNL, Leno or other comedy shows that cover politics, the Daily Show makes fun of who is in power.  For the last few years, that's been the convservatives.  However, if the Democrats were in power, you would see them getting slammed as well.Finally, I'm sick of hearing some political pundits and their followers complain about how Bush and conservatives are being bashed, as if they are victims.  When Clinton was in office, everyone was bashing him saying "Billary" or the "President and Mr. Clinton" or a million other things.  Rush Limbaugh was among the largest radio personalities in America, and did it every day.  And you know why?  It's the price for being in power.  Shit, I made the jokes too.   Conservatives are not victims (nor are liberals for that matter); and it's so pathetic to see them portray themselves as victims of the "media."

This message was edited by EliSnow on 3-6-07 @ 11:43 AM

BeerBandit

03-06-2007, 08:05 AM

Fez'sAssistant wrote: I heard the audio. She didn't call him a faggot. Please stop only reading headlines.   She did, if only indirectly by her choice of word.  She could've used nigger (Michael Richards went to rehab), because as she said today (by stating that he is married with 3 kids) that he is just as gay as he is black.  Point is she could've used any derogatory epithet, but chose faggot, whether consciously or sub-consciously.  Her comment today that "faggot" is a playground word is bunk as well.  Kids may not know what they're saying when they say it, but they know it's a mean name to call someone, because they hear adults using it in a cruel manner.   I'm all for free speech, banning words is ridiculous, but she is an ignorant child and should be prepared to face repercussions for her actions.  I as a Republican can't stand when this woman spouts her self-righteous drivel.  Have you ever tried to read one of her books. "Ya know why liberals are bad?  Cuz they're not conservatives.  And they're stupid." Stop giving her power by paying attention to her.  Ignore her and she'll go away.

BLZBUBBA

03-06-2007, 08:34 AM

Yeah...all those news networks are SOOOOO LIBERAL!  I recall the lead-up to the war and a press conference and not one single tough question.  NOT ONE SINGLE TOUGH QUESTION!  And here's another thing liberal bashers can wrap their minds around...I kind of doubt that these LIBERAL NETWORKS that are controlled by huge corporations...are going to be too liberal.  Big corporations tend to be a bit conservative.  They may throw out some facts now and then that make a Republican look bad.  Maybe actually continue to make people think they have real choices.     The Democrats aren't liberal.  Clinton wasn't liberal.  Maybe one or two candidates come to mind.  And then they're immediately labeled NUTS!  There is one party in the country.  MONEY!  And that party has two wings....Republican and Democratic.

AKA

03-06-2007, 10:07 AM

sailor wrote:  it has NOTHING to do with her ideology.  i think for you and others it has EVERYTHING to do with her being a republican. Registered Republican since 1985 - sorry - for me, it has everything to do with her hate fued ideaology and her lack of character.

HBox

03-06-2007, 10:15 AM

When you are "joking" all the time you can get away with saying anything.

Knowledged_one

03-06-2007, 10:18 AM

wait you are joking right?

sailor

03-06-2007, 10:24 AM

AKA wrote: sailor wrote: it has NOTHING to do with her ideology. i think for you and others it has EVERYTHING to do with her being a republican. Registered Republican since 1985 - sorry - for me, it has everything to do with her hate fued ideaology and her lack of character.  well there ya go.  i still stand by that statement in general, if not you in particular.  and that works both ways as well.  often dems will do something and republicans will flip out and i don't think, then some republican will do something similar and dems will go nuts.  sometimes people act like they're rooting for sports teams who can do no wrong.  i apologize in this instance for mis-categorizing you.

TheMojoPin

03-06-2007, 10:33 AM

sailor wrote: AKA wrote: sailor wrote: it has NOTHING to do with her ideology. i think for you and others it has EVERYTHING to do with her being a republican. Registered Republican since 1985 - sorry - for me, it has everything to do with her hate fued ideaology and her lack of character.  well there ya go.  i still stand by that statement in general, if not you in particular.  and that works both ways as well.  often dems will do something and republicans will flip out and i don't think, then some republican will do something similar and dems will go nuts.  sometimes people act like they're rooting for sports teams who can do no wrong.  i apologize in this instance for mis-categorizing you. I maintain that you simply don't find this kind of attack from this kind of person on the left nearly as often.

ChimneyFish

03-06-2007, 11:42 AM

BLZBUBBA wrote: Yeah...all those news networks are SOOOOO LIBERAL!  I recall the lead-up to the war and a press conference and not one single tough question.  NOT ONE SINGLE TOUGH QUESTION!  And here's another thing liberal bashers can wrap their minds around...I kind of doubt that these LIBERAL NETWORKS that are controlled by huge corporations...are going to be too liberal.  Big corporations tend to be a bit conservative.  They may throw out some facts now and then that make a Republican look bad.  Maybe actually continue to make people think they have real choices.     The Democrats aren't liberal.  Clinton wasn't liberal.  Maybe one or two candidates come to mind.  And then they're immediately labeled NUTS!  There is one party in the country.  MONEY!  And that party has two wings....Republican and Democratic.[baritone gay voice] "Thaaaank you."[/baritone gay voice]        In all seriousness, I couldn't agree more.

AKA

03-06-2007, 12:31 PM

The smart move for her would to finally step up and say that she is actually allowed to use the word, because she is that word. <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/curtoid/annhasacock_thumb.jpg" border="0" width="150" height="161" />

This message was edited by AKA on 3-6-07 @ 4:31 PM

Bulldogcakes

03-06-2007, 03:58 PM

spoon wrote: .....A) Misled you either intentionally B) Are blinded by bias and didn't think that matters C) Didn't bother getting all the facts. Man, this sounds like a synopsis of any of her books to date.Oh, absolutely. She's as bitter a partisan as you'll ever find, and I really hate defending her even when I agree with her. I just wanted to make a point about the "applause" stuff, because that seemed to be making the rounds on the left yesterday, and its grossly misleading.   

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high fly

03-06-2007, 04:33 PM

BLZBUBBA wrote: Yeah...all those news networks are SOOOOO LIBERAL!  I recall the lead-up to the war and a press conference and not one single tough question.  NOT ONE SINGLE TOUGH QUESTION!  A quick look at Judith Miller's columns show she was a shill for administration propaganda, giving it placement right there (GASP!) ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES! They hooked her up with that Chalabi bastard, among other bogus sources. And here's another thing liberal bashers can wrap their minds around...I kind of doubt that these LIBERAL NETWORKS that are controlled by huge corporations...are going to be too liberal.  Big corporations tend to be a bit conservative.  They may throw out some facts now and then that make a Republican look bad.  Maybe actually continue to make people think they have real choices.    A quick look at the results of Reaganomics - record-sized deficits instead of the balanced budget in 2 years they promised, plus multiple recessions and rising (10.8% in the worst case) unemployment, as well as Republican records in raising the debt ceiling are strong arguments that when it comes to handling our money, the GOP is the worst!What they don't understand is what they teach you the first day of Economics 101 --- a corporation's first responsibility is to make profits for the shareholders. The major media therefore try to appeal to as wide an audience as possible.Rupert Murdoch - owned media outlets are for spreading right-wing propaganda, and they suffer for it.Look at the tv ratings. With half of the country on the left and half on the right, let the right-wingers explain why Faux News does not attract half of the news viewers when Faux is just a click away.Is it that conservatives are too damned stupid to watch Faux, and can't help themselves when it comes to watching the "liberal" ABC, CBS and NBC?

high fly

03-06-2007, 04:37 PM

foodcourtdruide

03-07-2007, 04:24 AM

I really don't understand the whole "the mainstream media is liberal!" argument. I'm not sure where it stems from. It's an empty accusation, I've never been given compelling evidence from the people that spit it out. They may site one or two stories that were slanted to the left and exposed to be untrue, but obviously that is not enough evidence to make such a bold statement. It's really ridiculous logic, and I think it just serves as a tool for the neo-con talk show hosts to blame any bad news on. I implore the members of this board that have said the mainstream media has a liberal bias before, and I KNOW there are a few of you, to actually submit WHY you think this way. I just want to know what leads you to this conclusion. I'm a student of media. My major in college was media and communications (which.. job-wise was useless, but I did learn a lot about how the world works!).

BeerBandit

03-07-2007, 05:34 AM

It seems to me, that if both the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, republicans and democrats complain about the media, accuse them of favoring one side or the other, then they are actually doing their job, and not really on any side or in the middle, but objective observers on the outside.

foodcourtdruide

03-07-2007, 07:17 AM

BeerBandit wrote: It seems to me, that if both the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, republicans and democrats complain about the media, accuse them of favoring one side or the other, then they are actually doing their job, and not really on any side or in the middle, but objective observers on the outside. I think specific media outlets have a bias. You can usually determine which is which with a little research. However, blanket statements like "The mainstream media is liberal!" or "The mainstream media is conservative!" make very little sense and seem paranoid and unintelligent. It's pretty safe to say that FOXNEWS leans to the right and Air America leans towards the left. However, stations like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS are very much up in the air. This is why I always ask them for some kind of proof of their allegations of liberal bias. I honestly think it's an empty allegation that, as I mentioned earlier, is sprung up by neo-con talk show hosts to defend against bad news.

Zorro

03-07-2007, 07:32 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: BeerBandit wrote: It seems to me, that if both the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, republicans and democrats complain about the media, accuse them of favoring one side or the other, then they are actually doing their job, and not really on any side or in the middle, but objective observers on the outside. I think specific media outlets have a bias. You can usually determine which is which with a little research. However, blanket statements like "The mainstream media is liberal!" or "The mainstream media is conservative!" make very little sense and seem paranoid and unintelligent. It's pretty safe to say that FOXNEWS leans to the right and Air America leans towards the left. However, stations like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS are very much up in the air. This is why I always ask them for some kind of proof of their allegations of liberal bias. I honestly think it's an empty allegation that, as I mentioned earlier, is sprung up by neo-con talk show hosts to defend against bad news.I suggest you read Bernard Goldberg's book bias. His thesis is that it's not some grand plot hatched up by the networks, but that most media people tend to be liberals from big cities and their values seep through. Personally I think its all bullshit. The only reason we even have a news media is to sell shit and there is no moral belief other than I'll take the side that generates the most attention. Attention = Money

cupcakelove

03-07-2007, 07:38 AM

foodcourtdruide wrote: BeerBandit wrote: It seems to me, that if both the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, republicans and democrats complain about the media, accuse them of favoring one side or the other, then they are actually doing their job, and not really on any side or in the middle, but objective observers on the outside. I think specific media outlets have a bias. You can usually determine which is which with a little research. However, blanket statements like "The mainstream media is liberal!" or "The mainstream media is conservative!" make very little sense and seem paranoid and unintelligent. It's pretty safe to say that FOXNEWS leans to the right and Air America leans towards the left. However, stations like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS are very much up in the air. This is why I always ask them for some kind of proof of their allegations of liberal bias. I honestly think it's an empty allegation that, as I mentioned earlier, is sprung up by neo-con talk show hosts to defend against bad news.I saw a study a while ago about how people percieve news stories.  They had people on both sides reading the same stories, and it turns out that the majority of the time, people assumed the story they were reading is biased against their point of view, no matter what their point of view happened to be.  I think it comes from that you're either with me or against mentality a lot of people have, and if you don't agree 100% with them, then you must be all the way on the other side.  Having said that, I still think FOXNEWS is pretty right leaning.  Sometimes I feel like the Washington Post is a little left leaning, but they always have uber conseratives writing op-ed pieces, in what guess is an attempt to balance themselves out.

TheMojoPin

03-07-2007, 08:35 AM

Zorro wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: BeerBandit wrote: It seems to me, that if both the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, republicans and democrats complain about the media, accuse them of favoring one side or the other, then they are actually doing their job, and not really on any side or in the middle, but objective observers on the outside. I think specific media outlets have a bias. You can usually determine which is which with a little research. However, blanket statements like "The mainstream media is liberal!" or "The mainstream media is conservative!" make very little sense and seem paranoid and unintelligent. It's pretty safe to say that FOXNEWS leans to the right and Air America leans towards the left. However, stations like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS are very much up in the air. This is why I always ask them for some kind of proof of their allegations of liberal bias. I honestly think it's an empty allegation that, as I mentioned earlier, is sprung up by neo-con talk show hosts to defend against bad news.I suggest you read Bernard Goldberg's book bias. His thesis is that it's not some grand plot hatched up by the networks, but that most media people tend to be liberals from big cities and their values seep through. Personally I think its all bullshit. The only reason we even have a news media is to sell shit and there is no moral belief other than I'll take the side that generates the most attention. Attention = MoneyBut for every book like "Bias," there's a dozen refuting it.  What am I supposed to believe?Seriously, when did we start getting this insanely spoiled notion that we're supposed to "agree" with the fucking news?  People actually whine about a story if it doesn't reflect their own little worldview...what the fuck is that?!?  The news is the news!  I don't want to hear 8 different roundtable discussions by a bunch of nobodies about any given story...JUST REPORT THE NEWS.  Stop catering to these crybaby little pussies who neeed everything spoonfed to them in doses they can "agree" with and report what's fucking happening in the world.

HBox

03-07-2007, 09:23 AM

TheMojoPin wrote: Zorro wrote: foodcourtdruide wrote: BeerBandit wrote: It seems to me, that if both the right and the left, conservatives and liberals, republicans and democrats complain about the media, accuse them of favoring one side or the other, then they are actually doing their job, and not really on any side or in the middle, but objective observers on the outside. I think specific media outlets have a bias. You can usually determine which is which with a little research. However, blanket statements like "The mainstream media is liberal!" or "The mainstream media is conservative!" make very little sense and seem paranoid and unintelligent. It's pretty safe to say that FOXNEWS leans to the right and Air America leans towards the left. However, stations like CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS are very much up in the air. This is why I always ask them for some kind of proof of their allegations of liberal bias. I honestly think it's an empty allegation that, as I mentioned earlier, is sprung up by neo-con talk show hosts to defend against bad news.I suggest you read Bernard Goldberg's book bias. His thesis is that it's not some grand plot hatched up by the networks, but that most media people tend to be liberals from big cities and their values seep through. Personally I think its all bullshit. The only reason we even have a news media is to sell shit and there is no moral belief other than I'll take the side that generates the most attention. Attention = MoneyBut for every book like "Bias," there's a dozen refuting it. What am I supposed to believe?Seriously, when did we start getting this insanely spoiled notion that we're supposed to "agree" with the fucking news? People actually whine about a story if it doesn't reflect their own little worldview...what the fuck is that?!? The news is the news! I don't want to hear 8 different roundtable discussions by a bunch of nobodies about any given story...JUST REPORT THE NEWS. Stop catering to these crybaby little pussies who neeed everything spoonfed to them in doses they can "agree" with and report what's fucking happening in the world.<img src="http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3676/96502213gl7.jpg" border="0" />Thank you for saying WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID!

FMJeff

03-07-2007, 09:11 PM

I'm not going to argue semantics with you sailor or bulldogcakes. I think we can all agree that any one sentence containing the word faggot and the name of John Edwards makes very clear its intentions. Regardless of the direct or indirect nature of the insult, anyone with a brain can piece the two together. My point is the man is a United States Senator. It's just not acceptable on national television, in any context, from anyone. Let's also be clear on another thing I think is even more important than did she or didn't she. Whomever paid this woman to be a keynote speaker at thier convention paid for hate speech. Knowing what this woman has said in the past about 9/11 widows, gays, jews, liberals, democrats, whatever...you don't put this woman in front of cameras and people without expecting something inflammatory. I don't really care why...energize the base....whatever...but the woman is just an ugly soul and whomever paid for that paid for human ugliness, and that to me is just classic conservatism. It's pitiful really, that our national debate has eroded to point where a comment questioning a presidential candidate's sexuality is even news. In a perfect world, Ann Coulter would be dismissed like any other mouth toilet with nothing to add to the conversation but hate.But it's not a perfect world, it's America, and in this country she's a best selling author, a handsomely paid keynote speaker, and one of the hottest news stories in the country. Go figure. I guess we love to hear what she has to say.

ralphbxny

03-08-2007, 05:32 PM

I say that Cunts a faggot!!  That being said she needs to be able to use them so she remains looking like an ass. I dont want any words banned. Its a bad place to go. You dumb Cesspool of negativity twats!!!I hope I offended someone!! I have a lot way to get to Reeshy level but I am giving it a heck of a try you motherfuckers!!!

ralphbxny

03-08-2007, 05:33 PM

I mean everything I said above with all due respect. I am a gentleman!

high fly

03-08-2007, 05:52 PM

FMJeff wrote: I'm not going to argue semantics with you sailor or bulldogcakes. I think we can all agree that any one sentence containing the word faggot and the name of John Edwards makes very clear its intentions. Regardless of the direct or indirect nature of the insult, anyone with a brain can piece the two together. My point is the man is a United States Senator. It's just not acceptable on national television, in any context, from anyone. Let's also be clear on another thing I think is even more important than did she or didn't she. Whomever paid this woman to be a keynote speaker at thier convention paid for hate speech. Knowing what this woman has said in the past about 9/11 widows, gays, jews, liberals, democrats, whatever...you don't put this woman in front of cameras and people without expecting something inflammatory. I don't really care why...energize the base....whatever...but the woman is just an ugly soul and whomever paid for that paid for human ugliness, and that to me is just classic conservatism.  We don't see the attendess lining up to disavow her staements, do we?Couldn't that be taken as  sign of passive approval and agreement?

high fly

03-08-2007, 06:04 PM

Zorro wrote: Personally I think its all bullshit. The only reason we even have a news media is to sell shit and there is no moral belief other than I'll take the side that generates the most attention. Attention = MoneyOf course it is bullshit.And to get that money, the major networks understand they must appeal to as wide a range of an audience as possible. Ratings numbers show that ABC, CBS and NBC have a sgnificant number of conservative viewers, EVEN WHEN FOX IS JUST ONE CLICK AWAY!Ever since the media uncovered Watergate, right-wingers have whined like little babies about the "left-wing bias" of the media. It is simply a way of avoiding the facts the media reports."Shooting the messenger" has become esablished as a right-wing "core value," alongside moving the goalposts and changing the subject. All 3 show a deep-seeded unwillingness to accept responsibility for their actions.What makes it even worse is they do their whining in public where little kids can see the awful example they set; and some of them even breed, making sure to pass their bad habits on to the next generation.

Yerdaddy

03-08-2007, 10:10 PM

Knowledged_one wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: Yerdaddy wrote: sailor wrote: whatever you think of it, it was a joke. how is coulter different from al franken, jon stewart or michael moore? It wasn't a joke it was a bigotted insult and the main difference, among many other differences, is that the other three aren't stalking horses for their ideology.  and franken's "butt boy" comment?  and i'd disagree about their various levels of importance. If you're trying to make an equivalency argument between them and her then don't ignore what I've written already. Franken's butt boy comment is meant to suggest a brown-noser, which is obvious from it's context. I'll agree it also has gay undertones. But Franken is on a bankrupt radio station. What he says on it is rarely repeated in the media because 1) he's never as inflamitory as Coulter, 2) he's on a bankrupt radio station (I think. Is it even still broadcasting), and rarely appears on television 3) he is a professional commedian who has only recently mixed politics with his comedy, and 4) the left does not have a mainstream cable network to make sure this stuff gets wide circulation (rather than the war and their responsibilities associated with it). Stewart has never been as inflamitory, is on Comedy Central, and Moore, when was the last time we even heard from him?I think Couleter and Tim Hardaway are just doing this so they can get their own talk show togetherWell i would say that CNN does quite well for giving the left its chance to speakAnd your reasoning about the Al Franken comment is just your way to spin it as not being serious and is meant to reference brown nosing, take a look at it objectively and the comment is no different, and the fact that Al Franken is running for elected office i would say that makes it a bit worse wouldnt you and if you really want a stance al franken (again the man running for senate) try this one:"I just don't like homosexuals. If you ask me, they're all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia." (Mr. Franken, a 1973 graduate of Harvard, was referring to Harvard's Hasty Pudding theatrical club)." -- <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070220-122224-6807r.htm" target="_blank">Al Franken to the Harvard Crimson in 1976 via the Washington Times</a>So which one is OK?  I would probably say neither but Coulters is a lot less harsh then al franken being glad about a gay person dyingAnd really Micheal Moore is the worst of the worst he just blatantly lies and misrepresents the truth and that is in every movie he has ever doneIf it wasn't you I'd think you were fucking kidding with this post! In 1976 Al Franken was one of the original writers of Saturday Night Live, which, at the time at least, was a comedy show. (In case Dan Akroid ever says something liberal, he didn't really mean it when he called Jane Curtain an "ignorant slut".) This is called "sarcasm". With sarcsm what you do is you say the opposite of what you mean, or say something absurd as though you really believe it, and then, for normal people at least, it's funny. "Sarcasm". Look it up. Or did Fox "News" tell you that the dictionary has a left-wing bias too so you should never ever look at it? I know you got that quote from some right-win