View Full Version : How to deal with a friends tragedy
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 10:00 AM
<p>Hey everyone, Im writhing this here because I just need to let my thoughts go. I have been away all weekend for a hockey tournament. My girlfriend is over seas for school, and my parents weren't around. Where else to vent but here. Last night during out semi-final game my teammate and close friend was hit from behind and was sent head first into the boards. Losing all sense of balance he could not brace himself and his forehead hit the base of the wall. He mangled his spine beyond comprehension. He is in critical condition, and can not move any of his arms or legs. Everything thing is too swollen to tell if he will get feeling back, but the doctor doesn't seem optimistic. I can't even begin to know how to deal with this. I know I have to go see him, but I can't bring my self to do it. I was 5 feet away from him before the hit. If I had picked up his guy, this never happens. I did not expect him to give such a late hit. I can't look at my boy in the face, and I can't stop replaying his head nailing the wall. I am also afraid to see him in that state because I don't think I could see him lying there, knowing that this could be me on any givin moment. Sorry for the long post, I'm just so scared for him, and I have no one to talk to right now. I just never thought this could happen, especially to him. He is the quietest, most selfless guy I know. I just fucking sucks.</p>
Kevin
03-04-2007, 10:02 AM
Nova, The best thing you could do is be there for him... Just be a positive person in his life. I know its a generic answer, but its the best one i could give right now.
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Thanks Kevin. I know I have to, its just so much to handle. Even worse is that we had to play a finals game early this morning.
lleeder
03-04-2007, 10:10 AM
<font size="3">I know it is hard to go see him but you have to. I sense from your words you feel like you might have some blame in this happening. Don't feel that way. He knows the risk involved. The guy with the late hit shouldnt have been your sole responsibilty. People can get hit at any time its part of the game. Go see your friend be there for him. Focus on making him feel like everything is going to be ok. I'm sure hes more scared than you right now.</font>
Tenbatsuzen
03-04-2007, 10:11 AM
<p>First, it's hard to deal with guilt in a situation like this. You can't blame yourself when it was, as described, an incredibly cheap hit. The person who should be dealing with the guilt is the person who hit him, not you for not picking him up. That's kind of like being a passenger in a car that was hit by a drunken driver, and blaming yourself for not driving because you could have swerved or avoided the drunken driver.</p><p> </p><p>As for your friend, be there for him and hope when the swelling goes down that he'll be able to move. I don't advocate prayer in these situations, but I only say that you should support him as much as he can.</p><p> </p><p> </p>
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 10:25 AM
I am also getting that feeling that Im making it about myself, by worrying if it will happen to me, and I should have done something. I don't wanna be that guy. I just want to see my friend walk
Jujubees2
03-04-2007, 10:31 AM
<p><font size="2">Nova,</font></p><p><font size="2">Go see him ASAP. I'm sure as tough as it is for you, it will be welcome by him. He's probably feeling very alone and scared right now and needs all the support he can get. Also, don't drive yourself carzy thinking about what you could have done to prevent it. It wasn't your fault. Sometimes, bad things happen and there's nothing anyone can do about it.</font> </p>
Tenbatsuzen
03-04-2007, 10:35 AM
<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />I am also getting that feeling that Im making it about myself, by worrying if it will happen to me, and I should have done something. I don't wanna be that guy. I just want to see my friend walk<p> </p><p>You kinda are. It wasn't your fault. Not to be the Club Soda Kenny here, but just because your friend is in the hospital doesn't mean he's stablized. Go see him, let him know you're there for him. If he takes a turn for the worse, then you WILL have guilt to deal with.</p><p> </p>
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 12:12 PM
Just spoke to my friends mom. He is not holding on to well. It is starting to sink in that he may not walk again. I am going in about two hours with some other guys from the team.
<p>All the best to you and your buddy, my friend. </p><p>It's got to be an incredibly trying situation for everyone involved, and I can emphathize with what you're going through. </p><p>Many years ago I had to see a buddy of mine hooked up to all kinds of machines in the hospital. He was in a coma following a motorcycle accident, and his family had decided to take him off the respirator. Seeing him like that and saying goodbye was one of the most difficult things I ever had to do, but I'm glad I did. </p><p>Hang tough. </p>
Bulldogcakes
03-04-2007, 12:31 PM
<p>BN, I know since the guy was your friend you wish you could have done more, but this really isn't your fault in any way, shape or form. Its not like you're the one who hit him, and I'll bet even in his case this was not his intent at all. Dont beat yourself up over this, you didn't cause this. </p><p>Good luck to your friend. </p>
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 12:47 PM
Thanks everyone, I really do appreciate your thoughts. Its so intense thinking about a friend being helpless.
Clutch
03-04-2007, 01:00 PM
I agree with what many have already said .. go see him, let him know you're pulling for him and not to blame yourself. Like you said, you didn't know it was comming. The guilt should be solely on the creep who decided to take his frustrations out on a cheep hit ....
kellermcgee21
03-04-2007, 01:22 PM
If he is stable and awake I would definatly visit him to help lift his spirits. I'm sure he doesn't blame you in anyway and you shouldn't either although I can understand replaying the moment in your head and thinking about how it could have happened differently. As long as your buddy keeps his spirits high amazing things can happen there have been many stories of people suffering horrible injurys and recovering in time. Best of luck to your friend.
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 03:13 PM
Wow, just got back from the hospital. He was sleeping, and Im glad he was. My friends and I couldn't compose ourselves. My friend is paralyzed from the neck down and there is nothing that can be done. the doctor said enough swelling has gone down to tell that movemnet should have occured. visiting hours ended before I got to say anything. I am going back first thing in the morning, I want to be there when he finds out. I think he will need me there, as well as his parents. this is the sadest day I think I have ever been a part of.
Ritalin
03-04-2007, 03:35 PM
<p>Man, I'm sorry you're going through that. I literally can't imagine. It is completely not your fault, and it's obvious that you're a good friend to your buddy, and he's going to need it. Be strong. </p><p> </p>
lleeder
03-04-2007, 03:38 PM
<font size="3">That is a horrible story. I feel horrible for you and your friend. I'm sure the next few months will be hell for him. If you have to vent make sure to come here and do it. Good Luck.</font>
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 03:44 PM
Thanks buddays. Im sure Im gonna have to vent. this is a fucked up situation, and I can't controll a thing. I can't even express how I felt when i watched his parents get the awful news that their son would never feel anything below his neck. I just drifted off
FUNKMAN
03-04-2007, 03:51 PM
<p>Sorry to hear the bad news Boss. Let's hope the damage is not permanent and he can make a good recovery. No reason to feel guilty. It is a rough sport and everyone should be aware of the chance to get seriously hurt and I believe they do. He was doing something he loved to do and like all the other players was willing to take the risk.</p><p>If it was a perfect world everyone would play fair. One of the few things I really despise is "dirty play".</p><p> </p>
reillyluck
03-04-2007, 03:51 PM
<p>I am terribly sorry for what happened to your friend, boss. i agree with everyone else. you should see him and give him some hope. regardless of the outcome you have to focus on whats important. His well being and your friendship. sometimes you dont have to say a word and a person knows exactly what you want to say without saying it. you cant beat yourself up for something that isnt your fault. the only thing you can do now is show support and show that you care. be strong for him, his family and yourself. </p><p> </p>
Bossanova
03-04-2007, 04:13 PM
I just got a call from his sister. She told me that he wants to see me tomorrow morning. He still doesn't know his condition, but knows he is in serious condition. I have a feeling I may have to be the one that is there when he gets the news of his paralysis. Good times.
sr71blackbird
03-04-2007, 04:21 PM
Boss, I am very sorry to hear this. Try and be there for the guys parents, let them know you care and he means a lot to you, etc. Dont blame yourself, because you really have no power to stop things like this and it doesnt sound like it could even be your fault. I am sure the guy that tripped him up is probably really feeling like shit. Just be there for his folks and your other team mates.
J.Clints
03-04-2007, 05:21 PM
<p>Sorry boss. I hope everything gets better. I will be praying for you all. Just remember it is about him not you. There is nothing that you could do. I hope you realize that. You know you awalys got the buddays to vent to but you also got the 4 to talk to PM me if you need to.</p><p> </p><p>4life</p>
EffMeBoobs
03-04-2007, 05:43 PM
Boss I am so sorry for what happened to your buddy. It's such a difficult time but in the long run he will appreciate who was there by his side in these trying times. It's super important to be there and be positive around him. I've heard stories where doctors will tell people they are paralyzed and eventually they get feeling and movement back. It could happen, you never know. Think positive, good luck and take care of yourself and your buddy. We're all here for you, keep us updated.
Justice4all
03-05-2007, 12:09 PM
<p>Boss, I am really sorry that you are going through this. But the first thing you have to remember is THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT. You play in a sport where these things, sadly, do happen. </p><p>Just be there for your buddy and be a positive influence in his life. Even if you need to lie to his face to keep him smiling you can always come here and vent and we will try to make you feel better. It is a shitty situation and I hope all the best for your friend. I will pray he will walk again sometime soon. See some movement...anything to be positive about.</p><p> I will cross them for him and for you. we are here for ya.</p>
Bossanova
03-05-2007, 02:31 PM
<p>For anyone who has been following or cares, I just got back from seeing my friend. He is still in critical co. and still has no feeling. I have to say, for a guy who was jst to he may never walk again, he seemed somewhat a peace with it. Not too say he wasn;t putting on a front, but he wasn't freaking. Man he is being strong about this whole thing. His mother asked me to wear his number every other game for the rest of the season. I am down, I want him to be somewhat a part of our run at the title. </p><p>I just want to thank everyone for listening to me vent and for all of you support. You all are really amazing when one of our buddays needs a shoulder. Thanks again</p>
<p>Thanks for the update brother. I think it's a fitting tribute for you to wear his number every other game, and I'm glad he's keeping such a brave outlook himself. </p><p>All the best to the family and friends, as well as your buddy himself. </p>
J.Clints
03-05-2007, 02:38 PM
<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Thanks for the update brother. I think it's a fitting tribute for you to wear his number every other game, and I'm glad he's keeping such a brave outlook himself. </p><p>All the best to the family and friends, as well as your buddy himself. </p><p>I agree Gvac</p><p>I am glad you went to see him.Stay strong brother</p>
high fly
03-05-2007, 03:23 PM
<p><font size="2">This is rough.</font></p><p><font size="2">There is a lot of things being done in this area of medical research,so don't be so quick to decide your friend is doomed forever.</font></p><p><font size="2">Be there, now and in the future for your friend.</font></p><p><font size="2">Channel your passion into support for stem cell research.</font></p>
high fly
03-06-2007, 02:16 PM
<p><font size="2">Boss, this one has been on my mind and I wanted to pass something on. I may not have every detail of the story correct, but I think I got the gist of it.</font></p><p><font size="2">In Nebraska, a Father Flanagan started a home for troubled youth called Boys Town. Maybe you've seen the old Spenser Tracy/ Mickey Rooney film. There was a child there who suffered from some debilitating condition, Maybe polio, I don't know. This kid had metal braces on his legs and still had a tough time walking, so the other kids at Boys Town would carry him on their backs. It got to where they would vie to be the one who helped this kid out, and I seem to recall the motto of Boys Town became, "He ain't heavy, Father, he's my brother."</font></p><p><font size="2">There was a statue made and installed there of one of the boys carrying the other kid on his back.</font></p><p><font size="2">This was the inspiration of a fantastic song from around 1970. I forget the performer, but I have a terrific version by Donny Hathaway. Here are the lyrics:</font></p><p><font size="2">He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother <br /><br />The road is long<br />With many a winding turns<br />That leads us to who knows where,<br />Who knows where.<br />But I'm strong,<br />Strong enough to carry him.<br />He ain't heavy, he's my brother.<br /><br />So on we go. <br />His welfare is of my concern.<br />No burden is he to bear,<br />We'll get there.<br />For I know<br />He would not encumber me.<br />He ain't heavy, he's my brother. <br /><br />If I'm laden at all,<br />I'm laden with sadness<br />That everyone's heart<br />Isn't filled with the gladness<br />Of love for one another. <br /><br />It's a long, long road<br />From which there is no return.<br />While we're on the way to there,<br />Why not share?<br />And the load<br />Doesn't weigh me down at all.<br />He ain't heavy, he's my brother. <br /><br />He's my brother.<br />He ain't heavy, he's my brother<br /><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"></font></p><p><font size="2"></font></p>
sr71blackbird
03-06-2007, 02:20 PM
That was nice High Fly!
J.Clints
03-06-2007, 02:27 PM
Very nice High Fly
Bossanova
03-06-2007, 02:29 PM
That was wesome high fly, it actually helps alot. Thanks budday
<p>The original song was done by The Hollies. </p><p>And please keep us up to date with your buddy's progress Bossanova. </p>
Justice4all
03-06-2007, 02:33 PM
I agree High Fly, that was really awsome. nicely done.
Bossanova
03-06-2007, 02:40 PM
<strong>Gvac</strong> wrote: <p>And please keep us up to date with your buddy's progress Bossanova. </p><p>You got it brother, not much has changed as of today, should hear more later tonight. Thanks for you thoughts</p>
Bossanova
03-06-2007, 04:24 PM
<p>Damn. Just got a call from my boys mom. Still no progress, but he has taken a turn for the worse emotionally. I think its finally setting in that this may be his fate. As of now, he would be a quadro. He needs a tube to breathe, although the doc said that could change. I am blowin off work tomorrow to go see him. Sounds like he really needs me.</p><p> </p><p> </p><span class="post_edited"></span>
<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Bossanova on 3-6-07 @ 9:36 PM</span>
Bossanova
03-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Tomorrow night will be the first time Im wearing his number. The first time I won't be wearing #3 in 15 years. It will be strange, but a very proud moment
Justice4all
03-06-2007, 11:06 PM
Good luck Boss....I hope your team kicks ass in honor of your friend.
Bossanova
03-07-2007, 07:32 PM
<p>Well, I wore the number 4 for my friend. Its like it was a story book going on. I scored and had an assist. Being a defenseman/enforcer I don't touch the puck that much. It was like something came over me. The minute I told my friend, he started to cry. What a touching night.</p><p> </p><p>Side note, not much news to report on my friends staus. Still the same as yesterday</p>
<p>Wow.</p><p>Nice to hear you took your game to another level for your bro. </p><p>You don't know how much I'm pulling for him. </p>
Bossanova
03-07-2007, 07:41 PM
Knowing that you played, I know that you experience this hockey brotherhood thing. I appreciate it a lot Gvac. And yes, it was like I was a foward tonight. No idea where it came from.
high fly
03-10-2007, 11:48 PM
<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />That was wesome high fly, it actually helps alot. Thanks budday <p>No sweat, man. This is such a tough, tough situation. It takes a hell of a friend to commit to hanging in there for the long haul with a friend who is paralyzed. In this case, hopefully successful treatment and recovery is in the future. No matter what anyone says,don't give up hope.</p><p>Yes, some cases of recovery in some circumstances are uncommon or even rare, but percentages are for gamblers and you ain't betting on anything. If it's such a case, well, <em>someone</em> makes up those uncommon cases, so maybe your friend will be one of them.</p><p>We never really know and ruling anything out accomplishes <em>nothing.</em></p><p> </p><p>Be the best friend you can be, boss. It'll help your friend, it will make you a better person and you may inspire someone else who faces a similar challenge down the road.</p><p> </p><p> </p>
Bossanova
03-11-2007, 04:38 PM
Just kinda wanted to give an update for the ones who have been following. My friend is still in critical conditon, and has not gotten any feeling back from the neck down. He is going into some observation tomorrow and I think they are trying to try to get responses from some nerve endings. Im not positive, his mom was pretty shaken up when I spoke to her. I do know that the doctor has not given up hpe and they plan on doing anything possible for him. He has come to grips that he may never walk again, and is just trying to deal. I have been going to see him on a regular basis, and i thinks it has helped him. I just wanted to thank everyone again for their support.
Bossanova
03-11-2007, 05:45 PM
Sorry to post again. On a happier note. My friends girlfriend just asked him to marry her. She wanted him to know that she would be with him for ever. I just broke down and cried.
<strong>Bossanova</strong> wrote:<br />Sorry to post again. On a happier note. My friends girlfriend just asked him to marry her. She wanted him to know that she would be with him for ever. I just broke down and cried.<p>That's incredible. </p><p>There are some amazingly beautiful people in this world, and to have them in your life is a blessing indeed. </p><p>What a great story. Thanks so much for sharing that brother. </p>
Bossanova
03-11-2007, 06:08 PM
Please. Its my pleasure to be able to share this with my board friends. Im just happy I have people to share it with
<p>I don't know if it'll help you at all Bossanova, but there's an ancient Chinese tale that cautions us against labeling events in our lives as "blessings" or "curses" impulsively. It's something I try to keep in mind during tough times - </p><p> </p><p> </p><hr width="100%" size="2" />A poor farmer's horse ran off into the country of the barbarians. All of his neighbors offered their condolences but his father said "How do you know that this isn't a blessing?"<p> </p><p>A few months later the horse returned with a barbarian horse of excellent stock. All of his neighbors offered their congratulations but his father said "How do you know that this isn't a curse?"</p><p>The two horses bred, and soon the farmer's family became rich in fine horses. The farmer's son became an excellent rider, but one day fell off and broke his hip and leg. All of his neighbors offered their condolences but his father said "How do you know that this isn't a blessing?"</p><p>Another year passed and the barbarians invaded the farmlands. All the able-bodied young men were drafted into service, but the farmer's son was crippled and could not fight. 90% of them were killed in the war. </p><hr width="100%" size="2" /><p> </p><p> </p>
Bossanova
03-11-2007, 06:51 PM
Gvac, it can only help. I of course at first said this was fucked and he was cursed,but I have had time and seeing his chick come through has made me think. Though I'm not ready to rule it a blessing, I am willing to wait to put any judgement on this situation
Aggie
03-12-2007, 06:47 AM
<p>I haven't posted in the thread yet but I've been keeping up with the story and updates. I can't imagine how you're feeling, but we as humans have an amazing ability to deal and triumph terrible circumstances even if we think we're not strong enough sometimes.</p><p>I agree with Gvac, we can't see the big picture so don't label it as good or bad (love that proverb by the way). </p><p>I just wanted to comment on how amazing his girlfriend is for doing that. That has to be the best feeling in the world...unconditional love is what everyone searches for and he's found it through this situation. Wow. </p><p>Thanks for the updates and we're glad to listen because it must help to just get it out. </p>
Bossanova
04-05-2007, 06:43 PM
For those that have followed this thread, I figured I would give a brief update. Since March 3rd my friend has been hospitalized and has had no movement in his limbs. Yesterday his doctor said that most of the swelling if not all has gone down and his spine is still really damaged. He was sort of optimistic that with surgery and many procedures that my boy could possibly get feeling back. Following many circumstances it is possible that at the very least he could get use of his arms. Considering what happened and how it looked, this is big news. Any good news has been amazing for him. He and his girlfriend?fiance are great and are hammering out a wedding date. So much for being short. Thanks everyone
Bossanova
06-26-2007, 04:19 PM
For those that have kept up with my friends progress and for the others that left some really great posts I just wanted to give a promising update on my friend. On Sunday he moved his pinky ever so slightly, and today he moved his ring finger. Not so much that we are saying he is going to walk again, but it certainly caught the dr's attention. I don't know, I just wanted to share with my net buddays. Thanks again for being so caring about my friend
Don Stugots
06-26-2007, 04:21 PM
any progress is good news.
lleeder
06-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Thats great to hear. Hope its a sign of things to come.
Mike Teacher
06-26-2007, 04:40 PM
On Sunday he moved his pinky ever so slightly, and today he moved his ring finger. Not so much that we are saying he is going to walk again, but it certainly caught the dr's attention. I don't know, I just wanted to share with my net buddays. Thanks again for being so caring about my friend
I am loathe to even reply to this, I feel everything I say will be wrong, or so obvious as to come off as insulting, as if I actually had any friggin idea of the situation...
Movement of the finger is superb wonderful news, and the medical equivalent of your friend climbing Mt. Everest. And a great harbinger for future progress. Huge.
I'll venture to say this: Next time I'm in a bad mood, or in traffic, and about to get pissed off at something, I'm gonna remember your friend, and him moving that finger, and realize that my bad mood is a self-inflicted bunch of crap; we should all be dancing with joy that we can perform the miraculous, amazing, glorious act of grasping an apple, or walking across a room, coz there are people who would give anything, I mean Anything, to be able to do these things that we don't even think about.
Ugh. Sorry.
Bossanova
06-26-2007, 04:44 PM
I am loathe to even reply to this, I feel everything I say will be wrong, or so obvious as to come off as insulting, as if I actually had any friggin idea of the situation...
Movement of the finger is superb wonderful news, and the medical equivalent of your friend climbing Mt. Everest. And a great harbinger for future progress. Huge.
I'll venture to say this: Next time I'm in a bad mood, or in traffic, and about to get pissed off at something, I'm gonna remember your friend, and him moving that finger, and realize that my bad mood is a self-inflicted bunch of crap; we should all be dancing with joy that we can perform the miraculous, amazing, glorious act of grasping an apple, or walking across a room, coz there are people who would give anything, I mean Anything, to be able to do these things that we don't even think about.
Ugh. Sorry.
Not at all man. You are right, it sucks yes, but we all do have to appreciate things more. my friend has no ill will at the situation or me (I missed the block). He has accepted his fate and is praying for the best. I know what you mean/saying and could never hold that against you. Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I show him this thread and it helps his progress.
I'll venture to say this: Next time I'm in a bad mood, or in traffic, and about to get pissed off at something, I'm gonna remember your friend, and him moving that finger, and realize that my bad mood is a self-inflicted bunch of crap; we should all be dancing with joy that we can perform the miraculous, amazing, glorious act of grasping an apple, or walking across a room, coz there are people who would give anything, I mean Anything, to be able to do these things that we don't even think about.
Ugh. Sorry.
That's the absolute truth Mike. If I live to be a hundred, I'll never forget this one day in my life about 15 years ago. I was coming home from work on a particularly bad day and I was fucking miserable. I don't know if I was ever in a nastier mood. I had just broken up with my girlfriend, my job sucked, and I was headed home to a shit hole apartment that I was living in at the time. I was bitching out loud to myself the entire ride home and I was seething with rage and self-pity.
I got a few blocks from my house and at an intersection there was a young girl, probably 13 or 14 years old, trying to cross the street. She was waiting patiently, and when I waved to her to go ahead and cross she thanked me with a wave and a huge smile. Not much of a story, except that this adorable little girl was in a wheelchair. It broke my heart and slapped me in the face all at the same time. I was so pissed off at myself for wallowing in self-pity when there are people out there hundreds of times less fortunate than me.
Bossanova, I hope with all my might that your buddy regains some semblance of "normalcy" in his life and with a little luck, maybe even more than that. All my love to you and your friend.
J.Clints
06-26-2007, 04:54 PM
The truley sad point here is..............................This could have all been avoided is Bossanove picks up the block
Love ya boss. I am glad to here the great news.
Bossanova
06-26-2007, 04:56 PM
The truley sad point here is..............................This could have all been avoided is Bossanove picks up the block
Love ya boss. I am glad to here the great news.
Son of a bitch!!!!! I know your playing. And I love ya too
Bossanova
06-26-2007, 04:56 PM
That's the absolute truth Mike. If I live to be a hundred, I'll never forget this one day in my life about 15 years ago. I was coming home from work on a particularly bad day and I was fucking miserable. I don't know if I was ever in a nastier mood. I had just broken up with my girlfriend, my job sucked, and I was headed home to a shit hole apartment that I was living in at the time. I was bitching out loud to myself the entire ride home and I was seething with rage and self-pity.
I got a few blocks from my house and at an intersection there was a young girl, probably 13 or 14 years old, trying to cross the street. She was waiting patiently, and when I waved to her to go ahead and cross she thanked me with a wave and a huge smile. Not much of a story, except that this adorable little girl was in a wheelchair. It broke my heart and slapped me in the face all at the same time. I was so pissed off at myself for wallowing in self-pity when there are people out there hundreds of times less fortunate than me.
Bossanova, I hope with all my might that your buddy regains some semblance of "normalcy" in his life and with a little luck, maybe even more than that. All my love to you and your friend.
This is why my man crush on Gvac continues to grow and grow and grow
Friday
06-26-2007, 05:46 PM
Phags.
All of you.
:wink:
Bossanova
06-26-2007, 05:48 PM
Phags.
All of you.
:wink:
Thats why I luff her
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