The Chinese are despicable people sometimes...

[FMJeff]

<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070308/ap_on_re_as/china_dogs_1">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070308/ap_on_re_as/china_dogs_1</a></p><p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14139027/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14139027/</a></p><p><a href="http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/dog.html">http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/dog.html</a>&nbsp;(really intense photos, not for weak stomachs)</p><p>I agree inhumanities like this happen across the world, but in a free society, a dog owner should be allowed the choice of putting thier dog down, not the state. </p><p>For all those who mock our government, mock Bush, keep these atrocities in mind and fight everyday to remind our government what happens when power goes unchecked. </p><p>What bastards. Just fucking bastards. </p>

[Don Stugots]

i hate riding on the train with them.&nbsp; they pick their noses like they're looking for gold.&nbsp;

[Wallower]

<p>I second your opinion Jeff.</p><p>Their treatment of bears is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bile_bear" target="_blank">disgusting</a>.&nbsp;</p>

[PapaBear]

They're doing this crap AGAIN? They did it a few months ago, too. They would actually chase people down, who were walking their dogs, and beat the dog to death with sticks.

[FMJeff]

<p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[PapaBear]

<strong>Wallower</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I second your opinion Jeff.</p><p>Their treatment of bears is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bile_bear" target="_blank">disgusting</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>A hunter friend of mine told me the penalty is pretty severe, here in the states, for selling the gall bladder of hunted bear.</p>

[waltermitty]

<p><font size="2">It's gonna be ugly when we have to fight them...</font></p><p><font size="2">Word War III....</font></p><p><font size="2">1,3 Billion people.... roughly 700 million Males</font></p><p><font size="2">Nukes.... Oh fuck!&nbsp;</font></p>

[HBox]

Of all the incredibly shitty things that China does this is not near the top of the list. Not anywhere close.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;everyone that responded was serious. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>i didnt look at the pics, i cant handle it.&nbsp; They really are a disgusting society of people. &nbsp;&nbsp;</p>

[FezPaul]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewtopics.cfm/Forum/81/page/That_s_Life__The_Forum.htm">http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/viewtopics.cfm/Forum/81/page/That_s_Life__The_Forum.htm</a></p>

[FMJeff]

<p>these fucking people, who hold on to the belief that snakes tooth and tiger's eyes and whatever else stupid fucking animal body parts...its not just the chinese either, it's the whole continent. why is it whenever i see stories of animal torture, the majority come out of china, vietnam, thailand and korea? </p><p>why is that? i'll tell you why...because they are the next big evil. i'm telling you. when this mentality starts to look westward, you'll see. building up your armies are you? 17.8% increase in military spending, roughly 45 billion dollars? </p><p>no citizen, you can't read what we don't want you to read. </p><p>no citizen, your dog's fucking life is not your choosing. its ours. </p><p>no citizen, you are not special or compassionate. you are a drone in the communist machine. </p><p>they dont want us free. they dont want anyone free. its all about the machine. churn up the world, churn up the environment, cheap labor at the expense of human souls, drive the first mammalian species on this planet to extinction and you HAD A FUCKING CHOICE to save it, cull an entire REGION of pet dogs because&nbsp;the joy of a pet has no meaning to you, NO MEANING. HAPPINESS is a WASTE OF TIME. </p><p>Yangtse river so polluted as to not be capable of supporting aquatic life? Your fault. </p><p>Despicable people. Argh i'm so furious. </p>

[keithy_19]

it is disgusting...but is it only disgusting because in america we would never tolerate it?

[FMJeff]

and might i add, kill my dog? you'll have to <strong>kill me</strong> first, and I swear to god im taking as many of you as i can with me.

[JPMNICK]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>never come into chat or your head will explode. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Is what bothers you the treatment of the animals, or th efact that they eat dogs?</p>

[Kevin]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I agree that this type of shit should not be joked about. I always say that no matter what, I always blame the governments of anyone. Muslim Israel America anyone, And this is no different.. The normal person normally has not hand in anything.... But i have to agree with you on the Chinese Gov is a growing problem in the world... They with the Muslim governments are the biggest reason for the genocide in Africa. They have ties with the Saudis and Iranians and help the is is dakfar?? Government kill millions of innocent Africans. China has become a growing problem. A lot bigger than Iran in my book. They Help N Korea and Iran with all of their weapon needs. The Russians also are not clean in this. Bottom line is every government is so despicably corrupt and we are all in trouble...&nbsp; </p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by Kevin on 3-8-07 @ 11:44 PM</span>

[Wallower]

<strong>keithy_19</strong> wrote:<br />it is disgusting...but is it only disgusting because in america we would never tolerate it?<p>Moral equivalance? That's also infuriating.<br /> </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>keithy_19</strong> wrote:<br />it is disgusting...but is it only disgusting because in america we would never tolerate it? <p>man devil's advocate sure is fun, isn't it? </p><p>well let me address that. no, it's disgusting because its life, and life shouldn't be tortured, beaten to death, skinned alive, used for food, and treated with such callous disregard. </p><p>By the way, the municipality of Chongqing has a population of 32 million people. 32 MILLION PEOPLE. If 1% of that population owns dogs, that's 320,000 dead dogs, and I'm willing to bet that percentage is a shitload bigger. </p><p>Imagine, 350,000 dead dogs. I don't believe in god, but if i did, id beg him to take a huge hand and palm that country and ground the palm into the earth like putting out a cigarette.</p><p>its fucking genocide, but its dogs, so who cares right? </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[Midkiff]

<font size="4"><u><font size="2"><strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /></font><p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14139027/"><font size="2"></font></a></p><a href="http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/dog.html"><font size="2">http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/dog.html</font></a><font size="2">&nbsp;(really intense photos, not for weak stomachs)</font> <p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p></u></font><p><font size="4"><u>God</u> <u>damn</u> <u>stupid</u> <u>slants</u>. I made it halfway through those pictures and got physically ill. I am truly pissed. We need to be nuking Korea and the Phillipines.</font></p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I agree that this type of shit should not be joked about. I always say that no matter what, I always blame the governments of anyone. Muslim Israel America anyone, And this is no different.. The normal person normally has not hand in anything.... But i have to agree with you on the Chinese Gov is a growing problem in the world... They with the Muslim governments are the biggest reason for the genocide in Africa. They have ties with the Saudis and Iranians and help the is is dakfar?? Government kill millions of innocent Africans. China has become a growing problem. A lot bigger than Iran in my book. They Help N Korea and Iran with all of their weapon needs. The Russians also are not clean in this. Bottom line is every government is so despicably corrupt and we are all in trouble...&nbsp; </p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Kevin on 3-8-07 @ 11:44 PM</span> <p>I disagree. The normal person DOES have a hand here. These people treat animals like pharmacies and walking supermarkets.&nbsp;im not sayign we're better, im not defending the american slaughterhouse industry. its not a matter of american vs chinese superiorirty. I am looking at them as a collection of human beings, a race, that has demonstrated time and again a blatant disregard for animal life and environmental responsibility. </p>

[Kevin]

As far as cruelty to animals. I find it utterly despicable and utterly cowardice.

[Don Stugots]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br />and might i add, kill my dog? you'll have to <strong>kill me</strong> first, and I swear to god im taking as many of you as i can with me.<p>&nbsp;this is how i feel about my dog.&nbsp; I love Vegas more than i will loke a kid.&nbsp; she means the world to regina and me.&nbsp; hours of fun, uncondtional love and loyalty.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p>

[Doctor Z]

Those Arabs can be pretty bad too.

[Kevin]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>Kevin</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I agree that this type of shit should not be joked about. I always say that no matter what, I always blame the governments of anyone. Muslim Israel America anyone, And this is no different.. The normal person normally has not hand in anything.... But i have to agree with you on the Chinese Gov is a growing problem in the world... They with the Muslim governments are the biggest reason for the genocide in Africa. They have ties with the Saudis and Iranians and help the is is dakfar?? Government kill millions of innocent Africans. China has become a growing problem. A lot bigger than Iran in my book. They Help N Korea and Iran with all of their weapon needs. The Russians also are not clean in this. Bottom line is every government is so despicably corrupt and we are all in trouble... </p><span class="post_edited">This message was edited by Kevin on 3-8-07 @ 11:44 PM</span> <p>I disagree. The normal person DOES have a hand here. These people treat animals like pharmacies and walking supermarkets. im not sayign we're better, im not defending the american slaughterhouse industry. its not a matter of american vs chinese superiorirty. I am looking at them as a collection of human beings, a race, that has demonstrated time and again a blatant disregard for animal life and environmental responsibility. </p><p>&nbsp;Yea but most of those people in those places live in such fear of their gov that they really can not do anything about it... I agree that as much as people Bash the US, its still is a far better place to live in than prob 90% of the world. </p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>JPMNICK</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Just once can someone respond to a serious thread without making an awful joke. Just once. </p><p>god dammit its so fucking infuritating...</p><p>CANT WE HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THIS BOARD? EVER? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>never come into chat or your head will explode. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Is what bothers you the treatment of the animals, or th efact that they eat dogs?</p><p>i don't care if they eat dogs. you want to eat dog? fine. thats your culture.&nbsp;i eat pigs. some people have pigs as pets. it would be hypcritical for me to judge them for what they choose to eat. however, if you're going to kill an animal for its&nbsp;meat, do it right,&nbsp;do it cleanly, do it humanely. if an animal has to&nbsp;die so you should live, its life should be free of horror, of pain, of mistreatment. it should walk the planet&nbsp;in peace&nbsp;until&nbsp;his life&nbsp;is taken, painlessly and with respect. </p><p>im a walking hypocrite, i know it. I&nbsp;hate myself for it, i will continue to eat meat, it's just sad.</p><p>but&nbsp;this&nbsp;is not about eating dogs, this is about PETS taken from PEOPLE'S HOMES against thier will because they're too cheap to properly educate and innoculate a population of pet owners.&nbsp;</p><p>this isn't about stopping a rabies epidemic. it's&nbsp;about terrorizing a population&nbsp;and inflicting control by taking away&nbsp;and killing the one thing people love&nbsp;that won't raise the ire of the entire world....thier pets. their killing pets to kill people's spirit. </p><p>its so wrong it kills me so bad inside. &nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>Doctor Z</strong> wrote:<br />Those Arabs can be pretty bad too. <p>ugh why do you exist? </p><p>what the hell does that have to do with anything?????????????</p>

[keithy_19]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>keithy_19</strong> wrote:<br />it is disgusting...but is it only disgusting because in america we would never tolerate it? <p>man devil's advocate sure is fun, isn't it? </p><p>well let me address that. no, it's disgusting because its life, and life shouldn't be tortured, beaten to death, skinned alive, used for food, and treated with such callous disregard. </p><p>By the way, the municipality of Chongqing has a population of 32 million people. 32 MILLION PEOPLE. If 1% of that population owns dogs, that's 320,000 dead dogs, and I'm willing to bet that percentage is a shitload bigger. </p><p>Imagine, 350,000 dead dogs. I don't believe in god, but if i did, id beg him to take a huge hand and palm that country and ground the palm into the earth like putting out a cigarette.</p><p>its fucking genocide, but its dogs, so who cares right? </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Devils advocate is fun. But it sucks too when you think what you're trying to defend is absolutely horrific. I totally agree with all your sentiments. If anyone tried to kill my dog Max, I would gladly kill them. </p>

[FMJeff]

<p>its just really personal to me i guess. </p><p>i guess when i imagine the reality of what this is, i think of mine</p><p><img src="http://mediastorage.petsunlimited.com/photo/pet_portfolio/1106602_01092007_5057.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="333" /></p><p>and imagine 320,000+ people who in about a week are going to watch theirs beaten to death by poles by thier own lazy selfish oppressive government. </p><p>so so awful. </p>

[JPMNICK]

<p>I agree Jeff 100%. If they want to raise dogs for food that is fine, but to kidnap a pet and kill it for food is disgusting</p>

[Fez4PrezN2008]

<strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I don't believe in god, but if i did, id beg him to <u>take a huge hand and palm that country and ground the palm into the earth like putting out a cigarette.</u></p><p>I just want to point out -&nbsp;wouldn't that also (ironically) kill all the dogs too? </p><p><font color="#ffffff">glances up, then puts nose immediately back in Mao's little red book...</font></p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>Fez4PrezN2008</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I don't believe in god, but if i did, id beg him to <u>take a huge hand and palm that country and ground the palm into the earth like putting out a cigarette.</u></p><p>I just want to point out -&nbsp;wouldn't that also (ironically) kill all the dogs too? </p><p><font color="#ffffff">glances up, then puts nose immediately back in Mao's little red book...</font></p><p>least it be quick, which is more than what they usually get. </p>

[HBox]

Why are there no posts about Darfur raising this kind of outrage?

[keithy_19]

<strong>Fez4PrezN2008</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>FMJeff</strong> wrote:<br /><p>I don't believe in god, but if i did, id beg him to <u>take a huge hand and palm that country and ground the palm into the earth like putting out a cigarette.</u></p><p>I just want to point out -&nbsp;wouldn't that also (ironically) kill all the dogs too? </p><p><font color="#ffffff">glances up, then puts nose immediately back in Mao's little red book...</font></p><p>No. God is crafty in matters like this. </p>

[FMJeff]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><font color="#000080"><font size="2">Why are there no posts about Darfur raising this kind of outrage?</font></font> <p>because this isnt a fucking darfur thread and stop using it to point out a lack of indignation on the board's part.</p><p>you want a darfur thread go post one. </p>

[Wallower]

<strong>HBox</strong> wrote:<br /><font color="Navy"><font size="2">Why are there no posts about Darfur raising this kind of outrage?</font></font><p>Because to the common man, Darfur is some foreign sounding word they hear once a month on the news. </p><p>Dogs are easier to relate to.&nbsp; Not fair, but true.</p>

[FMJeff]

<p>you know what mods you can just lock this thread because its one of those where most will agree killing animals en masse is terrible and im just going to get more upset as people start to twist the thread into conversations&nbsp;they're interested in. </p>