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hedges

03-09-2007, 09:12 AM

I was originally going to title this best spag. western, but then my favorite western came to mind:

"The Wild Bunch" Sam Peckinpaugh

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 09:31 AM

hedges wrote: I was originally going to title this best spag. western, but then my favorite western came to mind: "The Wild Bunch" Sam Peckinpaugh Did you mean to spell his last name that way?  Because if you did, I tip my cap to you.  That's how his family originally spelled it before they shortened it to "Peckinpah."My favorite is another one of his, Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid.  So unjustly ignored and underrated for decades.  The restored director's cut that they put out a year or so ago based on Sam's notes and writings on the film is a thing of beauty.

hedges

03-09-2007, 10:24 AM

Yeah, MojoPin "Pat Garret and Billy the Kid" with good ole' Bob Dylan as Alias with the knife. They were stories about where the original cut was hidden for awhile I guess.

From what I heard they finally found the complete cut in an abandoned freezer on the property of Peck.'s daughter. Good Flick

Another good Peckinpaugh western "Ride the High Country"

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 10:27 AM

hedges wrote: I was originally going to title this best spag. western, but then my favorite western came to mind: "The Wild Bunch" Sam Peckinpaugh Good choice (though I think "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly" with the great score by Morricone)<img src="http://www.filmreference.com/images/sjff_01_img0534.jpg" border="0" width="519" height="393" />

ralphbxny

03-09-2007, 12:05 PM

MAgnificent 7 !!!but Good bad and ugly is closemost of the clint eastwood movies I love.

Doctor Z

03-09-2007, 12:09 PM

outlawfrank

03-09-2007, 12:12 PM

my favorite would be "The Searchers" or "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance",  Lee Marvin was an animal in that movie

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 12:22 PM

ralphbxny wrote: MAgnificent 7 !!!but Good bad and ugly is closemost of the clint eastwood movies I love.Magnificent 7 is cool, but it was based of a Japanese samurai flick...I think "Ronin."   Nothing wrong with a remake, but I love the one-liners in G,B&U...such as when the left-handed vengenance guy busts into Eli Wallach's bath talking about how he learned for years how to shoot with his left hand after having his right hand blowed offPOW!  Eli Wallach blows him away with a gun hidden under the bathtub suds and says, "If you're going to shoot...shoot...don't talk."<img src="http://www.wildestwesterns.com/images/issue_3_images/eli_wallach.jpg" border="0" width="280" height="360" />

andruwjones

03-09-2007, 12:25 PM

I'm still waiting for "El Topo" on American DVD. Kind of a 'western'.

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 12:57 PM

busybeeman wrote: ralphbxny wrote: MAgnificent 7 !!!but Good bad and ugly is closemost of the clint eastwood movies I love.Magnificent 7 is cool, but it was based of a Japanese samurai flick...I think "Ronin."   Really?

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 01:02 PM

hedges wrote: Yeah, MojoPin "Pat Garret and Billy the Kid" with good ole' Bob Dylan as Alias with the knife. They were stories about where the original cut was hidden for awhile I guess. From what I heard they finally found the complete cut in an abandoned freezer on the property of Peck.'s daughter. Good Flick Another good Peckinpaugh western "Ride the High Country" They've had Peckinpah's personal rough cut for a long time...he would show it to friends a lot.  This newest cut is supposedly almost the theatrical cut that he wanted.  There are some differences from his notes, and as such it's hated by a lot of Peckinpah diehards.  I went into it expecting to hate it, but when I watched it with an open mind it really blew away any version of it I had seen before.  If you buy the latest DVD, it comes with both the newest version and Peckinpah's personal cut, though only the new version is remastered, which is a raw deal.  But I really reccomend the newest version...it's a much tighter film and much more emotionally powerful and direct.  I have a few nitpicks with some things cut out (namely only seeing Garrett's fate at the beginning of the film and not also at the end as a bookend as Peckinpah wanted), but by and large it's a MUCH better film with this new edit, and definitely a true great.

busybeeman

03-09-2007, 01:14 PM

ralphbxny wrote: MAgnificent 7 !!!but Good bad and ugly is closemost of the clint eastwood movies I love.<h1 class="firstHeading">The Magnificent Seven is a <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/1960_in_film" title="1960 in film">1960</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Western_film" title="Western film">western film</a> directed by <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/John_Sturges" title="John Sturges">John Sturges</a>, essentially an American remake of Shichinin no samurai (<a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Seven_Samurai" title="Seven Samurai">Seven Samurai</a>). Similar to the original film's plot, in it a group of hired gunmen are tasked to protect a Mexican village from bandits.  </h1><h1 class="firstHeading">The Magnificent Seven</h1><div id="bodyContent"><h3 id="siteSub">From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</h3><div class="dablink"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/The_Magnificent_7" title="The Magnificent 7"></a></div><table border="0" cellspacing="2" class="infobox" style="font-size: 90%; width: 20em; text-align: left"><tbody><tr><th colspan="2" style="font-size: 110%; text-align: center">The Magnificent Seven</th></tr><tr><th colspan="2" style="font-size: 90%; text-align: center"><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Image:Magnificent_original.jpg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/Magnificent_original.jpg/200px-Magnificent_original.jpg" border="0" width="200" height="310" /></a></th></tr><tr><th>Directed by</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/John_Sturges" title="John Sturges">John Sturges</a></td></tr><tr><th>Produced by</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/John_Sturges" title="John Sturges">John Sturges</a></td></tr><tr><th>Written by</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/William_Roberts" title="William Roberts">William Roberts</a></td></tr><tr><th>Starring</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Yul_Brynner" title="Yul Brynner">Yul Brynner</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Eli_Wallach" title="Eli Wallach">Eli Wallach</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Steve_McQueen" title="Steve McQueen">Steve McQueen</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Charles_Bronson" title="Charles Bronson">Charles Bronson</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Robert_Vaughn" title="Robert Vaughn">Robert Vaughn</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/James_Coburn" title="James Coburn">James Coburn</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Horst_Buchholz" title="Horst Buchholz">Horst Buchholz</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Brad_Dexter" title="Brad Dexter">Brad Dexter</a></td></tr><tr><th>Distributed by</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/United_Artists" title="United Artists">United Artists</a></td></tr><tr><th>Release date(s)</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/October_23" title="October 23">October 23</a>, <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/1960_in_film" title="1960 in film">1960</a></td></tr><tr><th>Running time</th><td>128 min.</td></tr><tr><th>Country</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/U.S.A." title="U.S.A.">U.S.A.</a></td></tr><tr><th>Language</th><td><a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/English_language" title="English language">English</a></td></tr><tr><th>Budget</th><td>$3,000,000</td></tr><tr><th colspan="2" align="center" style="font-size: 100%"></th></tr></tbody></table><div class="infobox sisterproject"><div class="floatleft"><div style="margin-left: 60px"><div style="margin-left: 10px"><a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Magnificent_Seven" title="wikiquote:The_Magnificent_Seven"></a></div></div>The Magnificent Seven is a <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/1960_in_film" title="1960 in film">1960</a> <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/Western_film" title="Western film">western film</a> directed by <a href="http://www.ronfez.net/wiki/John_Sturges"

BLZBUBBA

03-09-2007, 01:19 PM

I won't go for the obvious choices.  There are certainly better westerns (a whole list) but DJANGO was pretty damn good as far as lesser known spaghetti flicks go.  THE COMPANEROS....A BULLET FOR THE GENERAL...TEXAS ADIOS are great as well.There's another movie...FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE which is kind of a spaghetti western/horror movie...that's really out there. But narrowing it down to one film as being the best?  Can't do it.  I'm 90% on Eastwood starring in it.  But then the others (without Eastwood) you guys have mentioned prevent me from naming a "best".  Eastwood,  for quality and quantity,  is the best western star in my opinion.

Mike Teacher

03-09-2007, 01:57 PM

Mag 7 is the classic.The Outlaw Josey Wales, for me, is Eastwood's best western work.When he meets with Ten Bears? Whoa.

TheMojoPin

03-09-2007, 02:02 PM

<img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0008ENHUS.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="500" />Love, LOVE this movie, and it's criminally overlooked.And I gotta mention Once Upon a Time in the West, if just for the stunning opening sequence.

Stankfoot

03-09-2007, 05:40 PM

Once Upon a Time in the West<img src="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/stankfoot/henryfonda.jpg" border="0" /> [Frank and his gang are standing in front of Timmy McBain, after killing the other family members] Gang member: What are we going to do with this one, Frank? Frank: Now that you've called me by name? [Frank shoots kid]

hedges

03-09-2007, 09:40 PM

Stankfoot nailed that one, "Once Upon a Time in the West" a Sergio Leone movie. Henry Fonda, Jason Robards, and the great Charles Bronson.

I just saw a thread about Johnny Depp dying. Is this for real or what? Either way, he was in an off-beat western called "Dead Man", a Jim Jarmusch film. It was Robert Mitchum's last film and all the music was scored by Neil Young.

Other people to show up in film were Iggy Pop, Billy Bob Thornton, Crispin Glover, Lance Henriksen, John Hurt, and Gabriel Byrne.

My apologies, the thread was "Brad Delp is Dead"

This message was edited by hedges on 3-10-07 @ 1:45 AM

klaus_kinski_Jr

03-10-2007, 03:47 AM

DJANGO - Also has the greatest THEME EVER!

The Wild Bunch - Never gets tired

Once Upon A Time In The West - Henry Fonda as a bad ass

For A Few Dollar More

The Great Silence - This movie has the greatest kick to the balls ending ever!

flavopop

03-10-2007, 03:55 AM

No doubt that the classics all kick ass, Good, Bad, Ugly, Outlaw Josey Wales, Man who shot Liberty Valence, but does anyone have some love for a movie made about 10 years ago, TOMBSTONE? I think Val Kilmers Doc Holliday is his best work ever.  Sam Sheppard and Kurt Russle aint bad either.  I love this flick, its definitely one I cant turn off when I catch it on the tube.  (Hey, that may be a good thread to start)"WHy Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked across your grave"  killer line by Kilmer!

torker

03-10-2007, 04:16 AM

You see 'The Outlaw Josey Wales'? What a flick!        <img src="http://www.robertpicardo.com/filmography/inner3.jpg" border="0" width="162" height="79" />

EffMeBoobs

03-10-2007, 07:09 AM

I just recently got into Westerns by the pushings of my husband.  It was like twisting my arm to get me to sit through a Western.  Growing up I saw my dad and grandfather watch these movies and just passing by the living room I was so turned off and not interested in what they were watching.  Also the fact, that it's mostly a guy's genre.  Out of the few Westerns I've watched my favorites are:  Once Upon A Time in the West and Tombstone.  I saw The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and while I really liked it, I couldn't stand the suspense in the final standoff, I just wanted one of them to shoot already! Lou's favorite Western of all time is Stagecoach.  He's new to Westerns as well, but has watched way more than I have so far.  We're going to watch "For a Few Dollars More" as our next Western.

hedges

03-11-2007, 01:37 PM

Most of my favorites have been mentioned, but I think a couple more deserve consideration:

"Unforgiven" and

"The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean"

K.C.

03-11-2007, 01:51 PM

<img src="http://www.antoniogenna.net/doppiaggio/film/hondo.jpg" border="0" alt="http://www.antoniogenna.net/doppiaggio/film/hondo.jpg" title="http://www.antoniogenna.net/doppiaggio/film/hondo.jpg" width="289" height="422" /> I'll watch it every time it's on. But like Al Bundy once said, they only show it once every 20 years...I really should pick up the DVD.

BoondockSaint

03-11-2007, 02:01 PM

I'm suprised that no on has mentioned Hombre with Paul Newman.  I love that movie.

BoondockSaint

03-29-2007, 03:20 PM

Pretty good article:

Guns and Tequila: The Life and Times of Sam Peckinpah. (http://drunkard.com/issues/03_06/0306_peckinpah.html)

epo

03-29-2007, 03:35 PM

I've got a bunch that I love:

Once Upon a Time in the West
The Searchers
High Noon
The Man who Shot Liberty Valance
Johnny Guitar
Unforgiven

RapistWit

03-29-2007, 03:49 PM

Of the Westerns I've seen I have to go with High Noon. That said, I haven't seen enough Westerns to give a qualified answer.

TheMojoPin

03-29-2007, 04:12 PM

Of the Westerns I've seen I have to go with High Noon. That said, I haven't seen enough Westerns to give a qualified answer.

That's a pretty solid choice right there. I love the genre and have seen a ton of westerns, but HN is still up there in my top 5, maybe top 3.

BoondockSaint

03-29-2007, 04:14 PM

That's a pretty solid choice right there. I love the genre and have seen a ton of westerns, but HN is still up there in my top 5, maybe top 3.

Hey Mojo I put up a link on page 1 with an article about Peckinpah. I tried to PM it to you but you box is filled.

redbri

03-29-2007, 04:24 PM

Outlaw Josey Wales is my all time favorite but I have a hard time turning off "Silverado"

IamFogHat

03-29-2007, 04:29 PM

Tombstone
Unforgiven
Outlaw Josie Whales
Magnificent Seven

TheMojoPin

03-29-2007, 04:34 PM

Hey Mojo I put up a link on page 1 with an article about Peckinpah. I tried to PM it to you but you box is filled.

Dammit. I guess the new board carried over all those old messages.

El Mudo

03-29-2007, 06:09 PM

I really liked Open Range....it was filmed beautifully. Even though everyone always talks about the final gun battle, there were a LOT of great scenes in that movie. Dances With Wolves was okay...even though it got a little preachy.

I actually like Cavalry movies more than I like Westerns...even though theyre pretty much the same thing. I could watch John Ford's Cavalry trilogy (Fort Apache, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon and Rio Grande) all day. The Geronimo movie they did a few years ago too with Jason Patric and Matt Damon was a good Cavalry picture too. Nothing looks cooler and more awesome to me than a troop of blue coated Cavalry moving in column of twos...it stirs the soul.

I also like

My Darling Clementine
The Searchers
High Noon

among others

El Mudo

03-29-2007, 06:10 PM

And if you can overlook the fact that Gary Cole is playing Custer, Son of the Morning Star isn't bad either

pittphantoms

03-29-2007, 08:39 PM

I would have to say my favorite western is Lonesome Dove... but Im not sure that counts since it was for TV first...

I also love Outlaw Josey Wales - Unforgiven - Good Bad Ugly - Tombstone...

I just started getting back into the Western movie genre... it is some great stuff. Im thrilled this thread exists because I needed some recomendations badly...

hedges

03-31-2007, 12:14 AM

Pretty good article:

Guns and Tequila: The Life and Times of Sam Peckinpah. (http://drunkard.com/issues/03_06/0306_peckinpah.html)

Nice article. What I found interesting was the description of the editing process of the day, and how Peckinpah fit in; "The Wild Bunch" had 3,200+ cuts when most movies of that era averaged 600 or fewer.

Coach

03-31-2007, 12:43 AM

Tombstone
Magnificent Seven
Young Guns
Fistful of Dollars

TheMojoPin

03-31-2007, 08:41 AM

Nice article. What I found interesting was the description of the editing process of the day, and how Peckinpah fit in; "The Wild Bunch" had 3,200+ cuts when most movies of that era averaged 600 or fewer.

Yeah, thanks for posting that, Boondock. Very cool. The bio Bloody Sam that came out a few years ago is a great read for anyone interested in Peckinpah.

Don Stugots

03-31-2007, 08:48 AM

tombstone
Hang em high
Unforgiven
Pale Rider

KC2OSO

03-31-2007, 09:57 AM

http://www.bestwestern.com/images/logo-bestwestern.gif
Huh, I thought this was going to be a thread about a hotel chain.

pennington

03-31-2007, 01:06 PM

I'll add "True Grit". Some of the dialog in that movie is great.

Contra

04-03-2007, 06:45 AM

Tomestone is my favorite of all! Love the acting, the locations, the story arcs, but most of all the relationship between Doc and Earp. The directors cut put some good scenes with Doc back in.

high fly

04-14-2007, 10:30 PM

Hard to pick a best western, but here are my faves (in no particular order):
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly,
Unforgiven,
How the West Was Won,
Blazing Saddles

burrben

04-14-2007, 10:39 PM

stankfoot said it, it was on tv on thursday, without a doubt

once upon a time in the west

barjockey

04-14-2007, 10:40 PM

Treasure of the Sierra Madre
http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Mptv/1083/th-5610-0038.jpg

Furtherman

09-27-2007, 01:43 PM

Cinematical Seven: Best Westerns Since 'Unforgiven' (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/09/24/cinematical-seven-best-westerns-since-unforgiven/)

Good article with a couple movies I've put on the top of my Netflix list.

Haven't seen, nor heard of, The Ballad Of Little Jo. And The Three Burials Of Melquiades Estrada is one I wanted to see but it was in and out of theaters in a flash.

danner1515

09-27-2007, 02:21 PM

Someone already mentioned it, but El Topo is a pretty wacked-out little western. I don't usually get into westerns, but boy is that one... different.

drjoek

09-27-2007, 02:58 PM

The only movies i watch at Best Western are Spank-o-vision