I think I might buy a Hummer or maybe a Scion

[nevnut]

<p>Let's see if the enviromentalists can explaian this one.&nbsp; </p><p><a href="http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/print_item.asp?NewsID=188">http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/editorial/print_item.asp?NewsID=188</a></p><p>Through a study by CNW Marketing called &ldquo;Dust to Dust,&rdquo; the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid. </p><p>The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it. </p><p>They should be in Ontario raising shit about this!</p>

[KnoxHarrington]

300,000 miles out of a Hummer?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

And the editorial in the link is from 2002. The "premium price" for a Prius or other hybrid cars has sharply declined since then.

[cupcakelove]

This 'study' has been ripped apart by so many other web sites I'm not going to even bother going into too many details.&nbsp; Its a BS fluff piece with screwed numbers written by a pro oil group.&nbsp; The biggest problem with their calculations is in your post, that the Hummer will last you over 300,000 miles and the Prius will only last 100,000 (this has been proven very wrong in the real world).&nbsp; Also, even if the cost figure were acurate, just because a car is cheaper does not make it more environmentally friendly.&nbsp; This study is based on so many bad assumptions.

[nevnut]

<strong>KnoxHarrington</strong> wrote:<br />300,000 miles out of a Hummer? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA And the editorial in the link is from 2002. The &quot;premium price&quot; for a Prius or other hybrid cars has sharply declined since then. <p>We're getting between 200,000 and 300,000 miles out of our work trucks, so why wouldn't you get 300,000 out of a Hummer if you properly maintain it?</p><p>The date I saw on the article was March 7, 2007.</p>

[cupcakelove]

<strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>KnoxHarrington</strong> wrote:<br />300,000 miles out of a Hummer? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA And the editorial in the link is from 2002. The &quot;premium price&quot; for a Prius or other hybrid cars has sharply declined since then. <p>We're getting between 200,000 and 300,000 miles out of our work trucks, so why wouldn't you get 300,000 out of a Hummer if you properly maintain it?</p><p>The date I saw on the article was March 7, 2007.</p><p>This article was originally published in 2006, and republished on the 7th with zero changes to it.&nbsp; If you want to give the hummer the over 300,000 mileage, then you gotta give an over estimation to the other cars in the study too.&nbsp; It uses made up numbers to come up with the lifetime cost of the car.&nbsp; I can make up a study saying a gremlin lasts 1,000,000 miles and is therefore the most cost friendly car ever made, but it doesn't make it true. </p>

[nevnut]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>KnoxHarrington</strong> wrote:<br />300,000 miles out of a Hummer? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA And the editorial in the link is from 2002. The &quot;premium price&quot; for a Prius or other hybrid cars has sharply declined since then. <p>We're getting between 200,000 and 300,000 miles out of our work trucks, so why wouldn't you get 300,000 out of a Hummer if you properly maintain it?</p><p>The date I saw on the article was March 7, 2007.</p><p>This article was originally published in 2006, and republished on the 7th with zero changes to it.&nbsp; If you want to give the hummer the over 300,000 mileage, then you gotta give an over estimation to the other cars in the study too.&nbsp; It uses made up numbers to come up with the lifetime cost of the car.&nbsp; I can make up a study saying a gremlin lasts 1,000,000 miles and is therefore the most cost friendly car ever made, but it doesn't make it true. </p><p>300,000 miles is not that un-realistic.</p><p>We have one work truck with 350,000 miles and has never had any major repairs.&nbsp; Another truck had 250,000 miles and shit the bed.</p><p>My personal truck had 199,000 when i sold it to my brother-in-law and he has used it&nbsp;as a work truck for over a year now with no major repairs.</p><p>Yeah, I know they're not Hummers but they are full-size trucks,&nbsp;get drove hard and maintained regularly so I think the comparison is fair.</p><p>&nbsp;</p>

<span class=post_edited>This message was edited by nevnut on 3-22-07 @ 8:30 AM</span>

[AKA]

<p>The number is not based on anything but an assumption.</p><p>An argument built on that foundation is then irrelevent. </p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<p>I don't know why anyone would take this article seriously. </p><p>There are no sources or anything. The writer is making some very scientific points, very unscientifically :)</p><p>This is the worst part of the internet, incorrect information. </p>

[Marc with a c]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This is the worst part of the internet, incorrect information. </p><p>right behind that is the peds.</p>

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>Marc with a c</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><p>This is the worst part of the internet, incorrect information. </p><p>right behind that is the peds.</p><p>lol fine, the second worst part of the internet is incorrect information.</p>

[Jujubees2]

<font size="2">If anyone really believes that it would be better for the environment to drive a Hummer than a Prius, then you probably don't believe in global warming and think Bush is doing a great job.</font>

[King Imp]

<p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[badmonkey]

<strong>cupcakelove</strong> wrote:<br />This 'study' has been ripped apart by so many other web sites I'm not going to even bother going into too many details.&nbsp; Its a BS fluff piece with screwed numbers written by a pro oil group.&nbsp; The biggest problem with their calculations is in your post, that the Hummer will last you over 300,000 miles and the Prius will only last 100,000 (this has been proven very wrong in the real world).&nbsp; Also, even if the cost figure were acurate, just because a car is cheaper does not make it more environmentally friendly.&nbsp; This study is based on so many bad assumptions. <p>How fast is the Hummer going when it hits the Prius?</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Badmonkey</p>

[epo]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Mainly because of two factors:&nbsp; He has a big house &amp; he voluntarily pays a higher rate for energy to use &quot;green&quot; energy only.&nbsp;&nbsp; Numbers are very funny how they can be bastardized.</p><p>Now back to the hybrid/Hummer discussion.&nbsp; Anybody who thinks a Hummer is somehow good for the environment is a crazy person.</p>

[Bob Impact]

I work on car every day and I have for ten years.&nbsp; To assume that a Hummer would last 300,000 miles is absolutely 100% completely fucking insane.

[foodcourtdruide]

<strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Keep listening to Hannity!</p>

[King Imp]

<strong>foodcourtdruide</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Keep listening to Hannity!</p><p>It was actually just meant to be a joke. I could care less what type of energy Gore uses or how much his bills are. </p><p>&nbsp;</p>

[patsopinion]

<p>glad i read this</p><p>people debating on shity article's ability to be shitty</p>

[nevnut]

<strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Mainly because of two factors:&nbsp; He has a big house &amp; he voluntarily pays a higher rate for energy to use &quot;green&quot; energy only.&nbsp;&nbsp; Numbers are very funny how they can be bastardized.</p><p>Now back to the hybrid/Hummer discussion.&nbsp; <font style="background-color: #ffff00">Anybody who thinks a Hummer is somehow good for the environment is a crazy person.</font></p><p>I never said that a Hummer&nbsp;was good for the enviroment,&nbsp;I just don't think that the Prius is as good for the enviroment as we are led to believe.</p>

[Snoogans]

<strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Mainly because of two factors: He has a big house &amp; he voluntarily pays a higher rate for energy to use &quot;green&quot; energy only. Numbers are very funny how they can be bastardized.</p><p>Now back to the hybrid/Hummer discussion. <font style="background-color: #ffff00">Anybody who thinks a Hummer is somehow good for the environment is a crazy person.</font></p><p>I never said that a Hummer was good for the enviroment, I just don't think that the Prius is as good for the enviroment as we are led to believe.</p><p>&nbsp;the only car that's as good for the environment as a prius would be would be another car that gets the same MPG. Whether its 45 or 60 it's still better then pretty much any other car.</p><p>I drive Prius' at work rarely, but I have. They are definately cleaner and more efficient.&nbsp;</p>

[Freakshow]

<strong>nevnut</strong> wrote:<br><strong>epo</strong> wrote:<br /><strong>King Imp</strong> wrote:<br /><p>Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month. </p><p>ÿ</p><p>Mainly because of two factors:ÿ He has a big house & he voluntarily pays a higher rate for energy to use "green" energy only.ÿÿ Numbers are very funny how they can be bastardized.</p><p>Now back to the hybrid/Hummer discussion.ÿ <font style="background-color: #ffff00">Anybody who thinks a Hummer is somehow good for the environment is a crazy person.</font></p><p>I never said that a Hummerÿwas good for the enviroment,ÿI just don't think that the Prius is as good for the enviroment as we are led to believe.</p><p></p>

Nonsense. A vehicle that runs primarily on gasoline is going to prevent global warming, in fact it sucks up the bad stuff other cars produce. Hollywood celebrities driving them to award shows more than makes up for the fact they jet around the world making movies and adopting babies. <br>
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Aren't the new Diesels (particularly biodiesels) going to kick the ass of hybrids when they start rolling out, anyway?

[Yerdaddy]

I think what most people here are trying to explain to you Nevnut is:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6787/shitsa9.jpg

Understand now?

[RogerPodacter]

Maybe we can ask Al Gore what he thinks about this study while he's paying his $1500 electric bill and $1000 gas bill this month.




Here's irony. George W Bush's house is the most environmentally friendly house out there. It is completely "off the grid" using ZERO power from and coal/oil/or nuclear power sources. It uses geo-thermal heating/cooling from the earth. All water (toilet, shower, etc) is recycled and filtered to be re-used. It uses 25% of a normal standard house's energy consumption off the grid. Think he has some inside info about the oil industry? I do.

Meanwhile Al Gore is gobbling up hydrocarbons like there's no tomorrow.

[Chigworthy]

Tipper left Al for Guy Compton.