Todays Rap is like 80's hair metal

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Everything what rap wasnt supposed to be has turned into pre processed cookie cutter crap. Every song is the same thing, how much money they make, how much jewelry they wear, how many ho's they have. What a far reach from the street poetry from its beginnings. Seems like every new "star" has a Li'l or Yung in its name. Its just like those 80's hair metal groups where image is everything and there is no substance.

[jetdog]

Dude!



Seriously, I agree though, it's awful. I don't understand how music can become so cookie-cutter, it happens to every genre and it it's successful! Amazingly succesful! It's very disapointing to think what has become of country music, hip-hop, punk, metal, it's all so awful nowadays!
Their are good bands out there, but they don't get any major airplay. Maybe that's for the best though? I don't know, wherever you go in the world, it sems you have to look deep to find the good music.

[LOAF]

I agree 100%

I have nothing more to add to this thread

[FezPaul]

Hottub loves rap?!?!?

[Thomas Merton]

What was once shocking and taboo quickly becomes mainstream due to the corporate interests constantly looking for the "new thing" to market.

Think about how the Beatles quickly went from scary long hairs who would corrupt our youth to their songs being played in church to rappers like Ice Cube or Tea, cant remember which, who went from Cop Killers to PG crappy movies that the entire family can enjoy.

Marylin Manson has gone from the devil to irrelavant in a very short period of time.

Other than racial remarks and kid touching, I dont know whats taboo anymore.

[tbonesteak]

You guys couldn't be more wrong. There is great rap still coming out. You're just not listening to the right music. You're picking on the "mainstream" songs that represent the worst of what rap has to offer. The Young Jeezy shit. The Lil ____ shit. I agree, a lotof the crap you hear on the radio is terrible. But artists like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Common are still making great records along with some of the more mainstream artists like Kanye, Jay-z, Luda, Eminem and Cam'ron. Cam's last album was great. So was Twista's. Even Akon has become a guilty pleasure of mine.

Hip hop is still very much alive.

[PigShitIrish]

Great analogy! Although there still is some original stuff out there, just about anything that sells or is played on the radio is garbage. No matter how hard or tough they want to sound, it's basically douchey pop music.

[cupcakelove]

I have thought this for years. Yes there is still good rap coming out, but its hard to find. Rap has become more about the way you dress, and the image you have than the actually music, it is exactly what happened with metal in the 80s.

[jetdog]

You guys couldn't be more wrong. There is great rap still coming out. You're just not listening to the right music. You're picking on the "mainstream" songs that represent the worst of what rap has to offer. The Young Jeezy shit. The Lil ____ shit. I agree, a lotof the crap you hear on the radio is terrible. But artists like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Common are still making great records along with some of the more mainstream artists like Kanye, Jay-z, Luda, Eminem and Cam'ron. Cam's last album was great. So was Twista's. Even Akon has become a guilty pleasure of mine.

Hip hop is still very much alive.

I completely get that and I love the Roots and Mos Def, but my point at least is that the garbage is getting the airplay and making the money, as with any genre of music, and it seems to happen over and over again, the corporately composed musci still, somehow, against all sense, gets the most airplay and makes the most money. Is it really that simple, no matter how bad something is, as long as you expose it to the masses it sells!?

[IamFogHat]

Who will be rap's Nirvana?
Those corporate, cookie cutter douche bags. Ice Cube must be rolling in his grave...oh wait...he's in...that...film...

[Don Stugots]

I miss the East Coast/West Coast feud.

[jetdog]

Who will be rap's Nirvana?
Those corporate, cookie cutter douche bags. Eazy must be rolling in his grave...
fixed it for ya..

[IamFogHat]

fixed it for ya..

Haha, good call.

[Swannee]

Who will be rap's Nirvana?
Those corporate, cookie cutter douche bags. Ice Cube must be rolling in his grave...oh wait...he's in...that...film...

That is exactly what i was thinking. I cannot wait until someone can come out and just make rap irrelevant the way that Cobain made hair metal go away

[Gvac]

We need another Tupac album to energize things.

[lleeder]

We need another Tupac album to energize things.

:lol: Gvac mentioned Tupac 2 days in a row, I wonder if he can make it 3 tomorrow.

[IamFogHat]

We need another Tupac album to energize things.

If by your quote you mean we need another brother born in the suburbs who was raised by a non oppressed, militant black woman whose husband left her then yeah! Let's go for it! Or, we could be real and look for someone authentic.
Don't believe the 2pac hype. read Have Gun Will Travel if you want definitive proof that goes beyond you know, like, a wikki search. Seriously. TuPac? What century is this. BIG is the real master here.

[patsopinion]

and soon a purist who is not image conscious will come along and take back the music

that boy will be sheepy

[SinA]

I said the same (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1239075&postcount=253) thing... in the 3/22 XM Listening thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1239075#post1239075)...
<p>my chick says that hip-hop is blowing out like hair bands did 15 years ago.&nbsp; it's gotten surreal and silly, and the exaggerated images are trumping the music.</p><p>she's smart.</p>


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[sithlord]

I never thought about it but I think you may be on to something. Hopefully rap will disappear just as quickly as those bad 80's hair bands.

[AKA]

You guys couldn't be more wrong. There is great rap still coming out. You're just not listening to the right music. You're picking on the "mainstream" songs that represent the worst of what rap has to offer. The Young Jeezy shit. The Lil ____ shit. I agree, a lotof the crap you hear on the radio is terrible. But artists like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Common are still making great records along with some of the more mainstream artists like Kanye, Jay-z, Luda, Eminem and Cam'ron. Cam's last album was great. So was Twista's. Even Akon has become a guilty pleasure of mine.

Hip hop is still very much alive.

Same exact thing could be said (was said) by the metal apologists in the 1980s - there was good metal out there - not everything was hair metal (and not even all hair metal was bad) - but the people were "just not listening to the right music."