JV & Elvis suspended for 2 weeks

[stinkbud]

Apparently it is over a prank call made to a Chinese restaurant, and here we go again.

http://www.cctv.com/english/20070423/104459.shtml

http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard/messages/312214.html

This crap just pisses me off!

[sailor]

Apparently it is over a prank call made to a Chinese restaurant, and here we go again.

http://www.cctv.com/english/20070423/104459.shtml

http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard/messages/312214.html

This crap just pisses me off!

without even looking at this, is it just possible they're on vacation like the rest of the free-fm shows? just an odd coincidence.

[Tenbatsuzen]

without even looking at this, is it just possible they're on vacation like the rest of the free-fm shows? just an odd coincidence.

They're still in a book. It's hard enough with O&A and R&F on vacation.

It's very rare that two shows would be on vacation during a book... and most PDs avoid it like the plague. three shows? Forget it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In defense of JV and Elvis, I hope the asian-american community slams them hard, and then JV trots out his wife. That would be awesome.

[sailor]

They're still in a book. It's hard enough with O&A and R&F on vacation.

It's very rare that two shows would be on vacation during a book... and most PDs avoid it like the plague. three shows? Forget it.

regardless, it still is an odd coincidence.

[Furtherman]

What disgusts me most about this is that the calls weren't even funny.

Prank calling a Chinese restaurant? I'm pretty sure that was the second phone call Thomas Edison made.

Hacks.

[Soupy_Dreck]

regardless, it still is an odd coincidence.

I agree. it sounds like a hoaky, hacky radio bit. I thought I heard that the studios were being redone and that's why everyone was scheduled for 2 week vacations.

[Don Stugots]

In defense of JV and Elvis, I hope the asian-american community slams them hard, and then JV trots out his wife. That would be awesome.


that would be great

What disgusts me most about this is that the calls weren't even funny.

Prank calling a Chinese restaurant? I'm pretty sure that was the second phone call Thomas Edison made.

Hacks.
it was the third, the second call was to talk dirty to a woman.

I agree. it sounds like a hoaky, hacky radio bit. I thought I heard that the studios were being redone and that's why everyone was scheduled for 2 week vacations.


that's XM.

maybe they will get canned and thus open the door for Ct & Jivin thus leaving the late night to the Hideout/Next.

[Hottub]

JV's hot wife! (http://www.natashayi.com/)


Natasha Yi.
Get over it, dickheads. It's a joke.

[Death Metal Moe]

In these turbulent times in talk radio I will actually put aside my opinion of their show.

If this isn't some fake suspension stunt, then it's fucking bullshit.

[Skarhead]

Why couldn't they just get canned... God I hate that show.

[sailor]

that's XM.



the xm studio is finally getting redone? that's freakin' sweet.

[Don Stugots]

JV's hot wife! (http://www.natashayi.com/)


Natasha Yi.
Get over it, dickheads. It's a joke.

HOLY SHIT!

In these turbulent times in talk radio I will actually put aside my opinion of their show.

If this isn't some fake suspension stunt, then it's fucking bullshit.

agreed. Opie said it best 2 weeks ago when reading JV quote in the paper in regards to Imus: We are altogether on this.

"In Radio, your friends become your enemies and your enemies become your friends."

[Chip196]

Why couldn't they just get canned... God I hate that show.

As much as I happen to dislike them, I don't think we can have it both ways. They should be able to make their hacky prank calls without fear of being fired.

[reillyluck]

can the phuckers!!! only because they suck. Chinese people rule!

[Don Stugots]

i think i heard Elvis call chinese people "nappy headed Cho's"

[sailor]

agreed. Opie said it best 2 weeks ago when reading JV quote in the paper in regards to Imus: We are altogether on this.

"In Radio, your friends become your enemies and your enemies become your friends."

yeah, at the rally for imus there were fans of r&f, o&a and jv&e all getting along.

[sailor]

i think i heard Elvis call chinese people "nappy headed Cho's"

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[A.J.]

yeah, at the rally for imus there were fans of r&f, o&a and jv&e all getting along.

And remember when Don and Mike and O&A were united against Stern?

[mikeyboy]

the xm studio is finally getting redone? that's freakin' sweet.

Except I think they aren't now. That's why they are off one week from the XM Show insread two now.

[ChimneyFish]

the xm studio is finally getting redone? that's freakin' sweet.



Yeah, can't wait to hear Perry's "phone song" for the next 3 moths when the calls drop out.:happy:

[reillyluck]

i think i heard Elvis call chinese people "nappy headed Cho's"

that made me spit my water out!!!! hahahaha! NICE

[Don Stugots]

i think i heard Elvis call chinese people "nappy headed Cho's"

that made me spit my water out!!!! hahahaha! NICE

thhhhhhaaaaaaannnnkkkk you

[JPMNICK]

can the phuckers!!! only because they suck. Chinese people rule!


you just like them because you like to get all squinty eyed

[Don Stugots]

you just like them because you like to get all squinty eyed

when she smokes she looks like lucy lui.

[KnoxHarrington]

And remember when Don and Mike and O&A were united against Stern?

That's one of the things that annoyed me most in the whole Imus thing, that Stern completely missed the larger point of what's going on here, what the stakes are, and instead exhalted in it and gloated like he'd won something.

Kind of funny behavior for a "first amendment warrior". But, then again, everyone but the dwindling fanatic fanbase that followed him to Sirius figured out he's full of shit a long time ago.

[JPMNICK]

This reeks of radio stunt to me.

[Earlshog]

I'd sit in the waiting room of an abortion clinic listening to small talk then that debacle they call a show.

People who enjoy talk radio better stand up and let there voices be heard. It happened to O & A, Imus, its happening to JV and Elvis. Ron and Fez could easily be next.

[reillyluck]

when she smokes she looks like lucy lui.

i actually believe Im lucy Lui when i smoke!

[Earlshog]

This reeks of radio stunt to me.


do you think the OCA is in on the gag?

[JPMNICK]

i actually believe Im lucy Lui when i smoke!

either way, i loved you on the view

[sailor]

Except I think they aren't now. That's why they are off one week from the XM Show insread two now.

xm's a bunch of nickel-and-diming chiselers.

do you think the OCA is in on the gag?

myself, i don't see it as a stunt or gag, but the station may have seen it as a chance to get this out of the way and give them vacation they were already planning for the near future.

[patsopinion]

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purty

[johnniewalker]

"Prank phone calls are considered one of the most controversial parts in their program."

Uh-oh!!!!!

My problem with them getting suspended or worse if it is real I have no confidence in them being capable at defending themselves with any kind of sense and it makes O and A look much worse when they inevitably get lumped together with them in articles.

[Koof]

it seems some of u are missing the point of free speech as a radio broadcaster... you know ron and fez would stand up for jv and elvis in a free speech issue liking the show or not..i hope some of u see the bigger picture....
PLEASE MAKE YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN ON www.jvandelvis.blogspot.com
u dont have to registered

also email Tom and John

tchiusano@923freefm.com

john.mainelli@cbsradio.com

Call Tom
212-314-9231
NO THREATS, SOUND EDUCATED
AGAIN THIS IS NOT AN FCC VIOLATION they are suspended for no reason

lets not have another Imus... i dont want any radio jock to get fired over free speech .... this is america this is what we are founded on
IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE

[ralphbxny]

it seems some of u are missing the point of free speech as a radio broadcaster... you know ron and fez would stand up for jv and elvis in a free speech issue liking the show or not..i hope some of u see the bigger picture....
PLEASE MAKE YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN ON www.jvandelvis.blogspot.com
u dont have to registered

also email Tom and John

tchiusano@923freefm.com

john.mainelli@cbsradio.com

Call Tom
212-314-9231
NO THREATS, SOUND EDUCATED
AGAIN THIS IS NOT AN FCC VIOLATION they are suspended for no reason

lets not have another Imus... i dont want any radio jock to get fired over free speech .... this is america this is what we are founded on
IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE



Is this JV or Elvis?

[reillyluck]

Is this JV or Elvis?

ha!

[Death Metal Moe]

it seems some of u are missing the point of free speech as a radio broadcaster... you know ron and fez would stand up for jv and elvis in a free speech issue liking the show or not..i hope some of u see the bigger picture....
PLEASE MAKE YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN ON www.jvandelvis.blogspot.com
u dont have to registered

also email Tom and John

tchiusano@923freefm.com

john.mainelli@cbsradio.com

Call Tom
212-314-9231
NO THREATS, SOUND EDUCATED
AGAIN THIS IS NOT AN FCC VIOLATION they are suspended for no reason

lets not have another Imus... i dont want any radio jock to get fired over free speech .... this is america this is what we are founded on
IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE


I agree with Koof. I may not like JV & Elvis, but we keep forgetting, IT'S OUT SHOW NEXT if we let these fucking racists, facists and opportunists take away unpopular speech.

Don't let a somewhat vocal minority run the dialogue.

[Don Stugots]

i left my comments on the page. FIGHT THE POWER!

[torker]

doghouse

[Death Metal Moe]

doghouse

What?

[Tenbatsuzen]

it seems some of u are missing the point of free speech as a radio broadcaster... you know ron and fez would stand up for jv and elvis in a free speech issue liking the show or not..i hope some of u see the bigger picture....
PLEASE MAKE YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN ON www.jvandelvis.blogspot.com
u dont have to registered

also email Tom and John

tchiusano@923freefm.com

john.mainelli@cbsradio.com

Call Tom
212-314-9231
NO THREATS, SOUND EDUCATED
AGAIN THIS IS NOT AN FCC VIOLATION they are suspended for no reason

lets not have another Imus... i dont want any radio jock to get fired over free speech .... this is america this is what we are founded on
IF YOU DONT LIKE IT LEAVE

To be "another Imus", you need to have a successful 35 year career.

This is not a free speech issue.

This is more of a corporate/political correctness issue.

If anything Doghouse was stupid for REPLAYING racially-motivated humor in the wake of the Imus problem.


If they are fired, then you have an issue. Otherwise, take the suspension like a badge of honor and be lucky that's all that happened.

[Midkiff]

JV's hot wife! (http://www.natashayi.com/)


Natasha Yi.

Holy mother fuck!

[cougarjake13]

JV's hot wife! (http://www.natashayi.com/)


Natasha Yi.
Get over it, dickheads. It's a joke.

god damn !!!!!!!!!!!!

[SPeeDy_Freak]

The only problem with this is the shitty timing and pure stupidity of doing a bit like this so close to the Imus mess.

As for free speech... it's safe to say that the days of "Shock Jockery" are long gone.

[pennington]

It's not a joke and they're taking it seriously over at the DH board. Regardless of what you think about their show, everybody needs to stand with them. Any other show can be next.

The spinelessness of CBS is indescribable.

[led37zep]

This world is fucked. What the hell is happening to radio?

I'm not even a fan of JV & Elvis but the audio isn't even that fucking bad.

New Rule of Radio...don't make a joke or comment about anyone darker than Sheepy.

[Bob Impact]

They should be fired for how terrible that fuckin bit is, but not the content of it.

[BabyLuvWhatley]

Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought prank calls are against the rules. I thought Opie talked about how you have to record the call off air, then get permission to use the audio from the person you talked to. Which means 1 of 3 things:

1: The 'Chinese restaurant' is someone they know faking it.
2: The 'Chinese restaurant' gave permission.
3: They did not get permission, and thus should not have played it.

Regardless, if prank calls are "one of the most controversial parts in their program" who would listen?

[sailor]

This world is fucked. What the hell is happening to radio?

I'm not even a fan of JV & Elvis but the audio isn't even that fucking bad.

New Rule of Radio...don't make a joke or comment about anyone darker than Sheepy.

the sheep-americans announced they're having a press conference tomorrow at noon.

[joeynox]

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[joeynox]

Update

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[johnniewalker]

"apparently unsuspecting employees of a Chinese restaurant are berated by a caller"

I read this in an article, i listened to the clip it was a monotone computerized voice that you had to type things in for it to say. Where is PAC when you need them?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought prank calls are against the rules. I thought Opie talked about how you have to record the call off air, then get permission to use the audio from the person you talked to. Which means 1 of 3 things:

1: The 'Chinese restaurant' is someone they know faking it.
2: The 'Chinese restaurant' gave permission.
3: They did not get permission, and thus should not have played it.

Regardless, if prank calls are "one of the most controversial parts in their program" who would listen?


Even if it's a "fake bit" - a fake setup call, it may be the racially-motivated content of the bit that got them in trouble.

Again, in the wake of the Imus mess, it wasn't a smart move to play it.

[empulse]

Free Speech means:

I may not agree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

That being said, JV & Elvis are verry unrucky.

[Koof]

UPDATE

CBS RADIO HQ
1515 BROADWAY
NEW YORK, NY
9AM - 12PM
WEDNESDAY APRIL 25th

[torker]

Why isn't management being suspended?

[JustJon]

UPDATE

CBS RADIO HQ
1515 BROADWAY
NEW YORK, NY
9AM - 12PM
WEDNESDAY APRIL 25th

You guys really need to pick one address and stick with it.

[Furtherman]

UPDATE

CBS RADIO HQ
1515 BROADWAY
NEW YORK, NY
9AM - 12PM
WEDNESDAY APRIL 25th


This is the Viacom building. The MTV building. Smack in the middle of Times Square. CBS Radio is located waaaaaaay up top of this 54 story building. No one is broadcast out of here. The suits you want to complain to never enter the front of the building and will never see you. Plus Wednesday is Broadway matinee day. The crowds will be ridiculous and the cops will move you along quickly.

You'd be better off at the 52nd St building.

[JPMNICK]

This is the Viacom building. The MTV building. Smack in the middle of Times Square. CBS Radio is located waaaaaaay up top of this 54 story building. No one is broadcast out of here. The suits you want to complain to never enter the front of the building and will never see you. Plus Wednesday is Broadway matinee day. The crowds will be ridiculous and the cops will move you along quickly.

You'd be better off at the 52nd St building.

your better off just not caring about JV and elvis.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Ok Now Its Time To Show Your Love
We Want To Get The Fans From All Over To Come Protest

Wednesday April 25 2007
9am To 12 Pm
If The Boys Are Not Back On The Show

Please Dont Pussy Out
Lets Make This Happen

40 w 57th ny ny

I wont be able to Attend, I have to Relace my Sneakers

:king:

[Don Stugots]

This is the Viacom building. The MTV building. Smack in the middle of Times Square. CBS Radio is located waaaaaaay up top of this 54 story building. No one is broadcast out of here. The suits you want to complain to never enter the front of the building and will never see you. Plus Wednesday is Broadway matinee day. The crowds will be ridiculous and the cops will move you along quickly.

You'd be better off at the 52nd St building.

100% correct. the suits & celebs used to use the freight entrance right across from carmine's.

[mikeyboy]

your better off just not caring about JV and elvis.

I really don't know JV & Elvis' show. I've only heard it a couple of times in 15-20 minute intervals. I'm not ready to jump into the show because my radio listening card is a little jammed as is, but...

1. An edgy comedy show should have the right to be edgy without having to second guess everything they do and say. That doesn't matter if it's Imus, O&A, R&F or the Doghouse. I haven't listened to the Doghouse calls that got them in trouble, but I'll bet they are no worse than the kinds of things we've heard on radio for years. It's all about who gets targeted, and who is to say that R&F won't get targeted next. They are extremely adept at working both clean and dirty, but who is to say whether R&F might say something on FreeFM that none of us might find offensive, but some vocal group deems that it is. How quickly will an on-edge PD be to shut the door on R&F's show, especially if Imus and the Doghouse have received the axe. This issue bugs me, and it has nothing to do with whether a show is good or not. I never liked Imus' show, but I am greatly bothered by what happened to him.

2. Like it or not, the Doghouse is an important block in the FreeFM programming lineup. Allowing them to be pushed out weakens the WFNY FreeFM programming overall and hurts the chances of the FreeFM format to succeed in NYC.

So, I do support the Doghouse in all of this, although, like furtherman, I question the effectiveness of the current protest plan.

[JPMNICK]

I really don't know JV & Elvis' show. I've only heard it a couple of times in 15-20 minute intervals. I'm not ready to jump into the show because my radio listening card is a little jammed as is, but...

1. An edgy comedy show should have the right to be edgy without having to second guess everything they do and say. That doesn't matter if it's Imus, O&A, R&F or the Doghouse. I haven't listened to the Doghouse calls that got them in trouble, but I'll bet they are no worse than the kinds of things we've heard on radio for years. It's all about who gets targeted, and who is to say that R&F won't get targeted next. They are extremely adept at working both clean and dirty, but who is to say whether R&F might say something on FreeFM that none of us might find offensive, but some vocal group deems that it is. How quickly will an on-edge PD be to shut the door on R&F's show, especially if Imus and the Doghouse have received the axe. This issue bugs me, and it has nothing to do with whether a show is good or not. I never liked Imus' show, but I am greatly bothered by what happened to him.

2. Like it or not, the Doghouse is an important block in the FreeFM programming lineup. Allowing them to be pushed out weakens the WFNY FreeFM programming overall and hurts the chances of the FreeFM format to succeed in NYC.

So, I do support the Doghouse in all of this, although, like furtherman, I question the effectiveness of the current protest plan.


I def agree Mikey, I think the way things are going right now is very dangerous for the entire radio industry. It seems like talk is not the only area getting the pressure, as we have seen a lot of people come out against rap music as well.

I just think JV and Elvis are doing this is an indirect promotional stunt. I think they knew what was going to happen, and wanted to get their names in the papers in order to get their ratings up. This is just my opinion, but when I do listen to their show, it is not something I would put last them. I just find the timing suspect. I think they are worried about a really bad book since they will not have an O&A lead-in 2 out of 3 weeks. I thought this might be their way to stay in NYC a little longer by being able to say "well we were suspended during the ratings book, so those numbers are off"

[StupidGirlllll]

Ok for the most part I do listen to there show while I am in the car.. I must say that usually there antics I can not stand like all the other stupid calls they make with the hill billy voices are sooo stupid & played out, but I did hear this call & honestly I have to say it was the funniest prank call I have heard in a long time.

[Arch Stanton]

Funny how the talent gets in trouble and not anybody in corporate. It happens time and time again.
Say what you will about these guys but they were all over the Imus thing and were reaching out to other shows to show support for Imus. They also knew, as Opie has said, they were next.
That was fast. Gone in what, 2 weeks after Imus? Wow.

The few that are stating that they are damaged by these words heard on the air are not accepting appologies. They want the firings. Not suspension, firings.
Self centered looking for publicity special interest groups.

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Why don't we just drag 'em out into the street and beat them with lead pipes while we're at it? We're slowly reversing the progress made with societal tolerances from the 60's on to the 90's. My one bud whines about how the 90's was this evil decadent age in American history, but that's because he wasn't getting laid in the 90's and he got to listen to his dad complain about Clinton for 8 years. He, and I'm sure many Americans, are fully intent on getting culture to be just as lame and hokey pokey as it was in the 50's.

This ignorant shit pisses me off. Don't listen if you don't like- why do people feel the need to seek out and lynch something they personally don't like when they could just as easily leave it alone and forget about it?

And Mojopin hates Imus, so he thinks it's alright he got fired (correct me if I'm wrong). Other people hate JV and Elvis, so they think it's alright they get fired too. Many people here wouldn't shed a tear if Stern got canned- me included- but it still would be the continuation of a trend that is very bad for this community's interests. As Mr.Cumia put it, this sets a PRECEDENT... just as Sulla marching on Rome set the precedent for Caesar to cross the Rubicon. Just wait till the hammer falls on the buddays. And you know it's going to happen one way or the other.

[pennington]

Don't listen if you don't like- why do people feel the need to seek out and lynch something they personally don't like when they could just as easily leave it alone and forget about it?

The thing is, they didn't hear it. Somebody else told them about it and THEN they were "offended"

[CofyCrakCocaine]

The thing is, they didn't hear it. Somebody else told them about it and THEN they were "offended"

Exactly how this shit works. Friend of mine who was in Columbine was angry at Howard Stern for saying the kids killed in the shootings 'deserved it' and was part of a group of kids from there trying to get Stern off the airwaves in Littleton. She wasn't listening at all to the show, she heard his comments from someone else, some attention-seeker.

Their movement obviously failed, but it makes you wonder why 'nappy headed ho's' gets Imus fired, and the shit that Stern says (which is 100 times more offensive in my opinion) never touches him? The severity of the "crime" and the severity of the punishment are all out of whack in this goddamned country.

And yeah, I hate Stern, but I never think he should be removed from the airwaves for saying something a small group (however sympathetic one may be towards them) finds offensive.

[TheMojoPin]

And Mojopin hates Imus, so he thinks it's alright he got fired (correct me if I'm wrong).

No, simply think it's hysterical that he got fired because I hate him and I love that he got tossed out onto his dusty, boring ass. I think him actually being fired over what he said this time is overkill, but I do think he's said plenty of other things in that past that mertied discipline from his employers or anger from the public.

My main issue is just how people keep referring to Imus or this new mess as being "free speech" issues along the lines of what the 1st Ammendment actually means. They're not. If this was a genuine free speech issue, I'd be furious, my hatred of Imus aside. Since it's not, I have little pity for morons. It's really not all that difficult to not be a racist (of ANY degree) douche in public, contrary to what some may think.

Basically, these guys' job is talking for a living. If they talk "poorly" and there's enough of a public reaction that it's detrimental to their employers, I understand why those employers may discipline them. If you're a banker and you keep fucking up at "banking" and pissing off customers or potential customers, your bosses are going to do something about it. In short, these guys are getting their jobs yanked around because they fucked up doing their job...it just happens their jobs are talking into a microphone and on a much bigger scale than ours that garners them much more attention when they fuck up, so people take it to mean that they're somehow important or it's serious when they get fired.

[mikeyboy]

They're not. Basically, these guys' jobs are talking for a living. If they talk "poorly" and there's enough of a public reaction that it's detrimental to their employers, I understand why those employers may discipline them. If you're a banker and you keep fucking up at "banking" and pissing off customers or potential customers, your bosses are going to do something about it. In short, these guys are getting their jobs yanked around because they fucked up doing their job...it just happens their jobs are talking into a microphone and on a much bigger scale than ours that garners them much more attention when they fuck up, so people take it to mean that they're somehow important or it's serious when they get fired.

It's not a very good anaology, though. These shows are doing just fine for their "customers". It's a vocal minority that likely aren't customers/listeners who make decisions as to what the customers/listeners should be receiving. When you were managing the book store, and there were a tiny group of people calling for your firing because they didn't like the content you were stocking (to the detriment of the majority of your customer base), that would be analogous and another bullshit situation. The problem is that management is listening to this vocal minority right now.

[EffMeBoobs]

I agree with Koof. I may not like JV & Elvis, but we keep forgetting, IT'S OUT SHOW NEXT if we let these fucking racists, facists and opportunists take away unpopular speech.

Don't let a somewhat vocal minority run the dialogue.
I totally agree with Koof and DMM. We must protect our rights to free speech and to listen to what we want on these air waves or sooner or later it's going to become Communist air waves. It's bullshit. It's not just about JV and Elvis, it's about all our boys, the ones we love, RF and OA. Sooner or later if this bullshit keeps up, it'll be them next. So this mean if Ronnie makes fun of Fez for being gay are they going to be fired next? We live in a fucked up country. Go to http://peopleagainstcensorship.com/ register and sign in to support your freedom of speech and be against stupid radio censorship.

[Bulldogcakes]

It's not a very good analogy, though. These shows are doing just fine for their "customers". It's a vocal minority that likely aren't customers/listeners who make decisions as to what the customers/listeners should be receiving. When you were managing the book store, and there were a tiny group of people calling for your firing because they didn't like the content you were stocking (to the detriment of the majority of your customer base), that would be analogous and another bullshit situation. The problem is that management is listening to this vocal minority right now.

Mikey just summarized one of my fundamental problems with the Imus firing.

I will say this, though. I'm not very worked up about this case, nowhere near what I was about Imus. I liked Imus, and I cant stand JV and Elvis. But I dont think thats hypocritical whatsoever on my part. I had no problem with Imus being suspended, it was the firing that made me upset. Firing and suspension are two very different penalties.



BTW- Does this explain the MID BOOK vacations of BOTH Ron and Fez AND O&A? Taking time off and letting things cool down before they come back? I suspect it is.

[ChimneyFish]

I just love, that when I quckly took a look at the topic, it read:

" JV & Elvis suspended for....
Bulldogcakes"


Sounds saucy.:tongue:

[mikeyboy]

Mikey just summarized one of my fundamental problems with the Imus firing.

I will say this, though. I'm not very worked up about this case, nowhere near what I was about Imus. I liked Imus, and I cant stand JV and Elvis. But I dont think thats hypocritical whatsoever on my part. I had no problem with Imus being suspended, it was the firing that made me upset. Firing and suspension are two very different penalties.


You're absolutely right. I may be looking too far ahead. I've seen different reports. Has the suspension been announced as two weekw or indefinite? Also, given the climate following the Imus situation, it's very clear that a suspension could be the pre-cursor to a firing, just as it was with Imus. Don't forget also that O&A were suspended before Infinity decided to pull the plug on their show. A mere suspension is completely different from a firing (and a much more reasonable response by the company), but I fear that we're looking at more given the last couple of weeks.

[mikeyboy]

BTW- Does this explain the MID BOOK vacations of BOTH Ron and Fez AND O&A? Taking time off and letting things cool down before they come back? I suspect it is.

I should have made this point in my last post but didn't want to re-edit the quote box -- I'm nearly positive that R&F's vacation was scheduled prior to the Imus backlash. I believe it was scheduled for both shows initially to allow XM to redo their studio (which I guess isn't happening now).

[oh_kee_pa]

if it's true, my guess is JV & Elvis tried to get fired...
i.e. o & a in boston...

they dont want to be doing 9-12... prob. have an offer in chicago, or california to do a 6-10 show and need to get fired.... just my guess

[Bulldogcakes]

You're absolutely right. I may be looking too far ahead. I've seen different reports. Has the suspension been announced as two weekw or indefinite? Also, given the climate following the Imus situation, it's very clear that a suspension could be the pre-cursor to a firing, just as it was with Imus. Don't forget also that O&A were suspended before Infinity decided to pull the plug on their show. A mere suspension is completely different from a firing (and a much more reasonable response by the company), but I fear that we're looking at more given the last couple of weeks.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. You're not making any big, unfounded leap of logic considering whats happened recently. Remember it was announced that Imus was suspended before he was fired. There are some differences here, though. That got HUGE national attention, Imus didn't serve his suspension immediately (which would have took some of the steam away from the outrage) and the people opposed to Imus were very well organized and took it to the top of CBS to get him fired. Also, the line was blurred on whether Imus was doing comedy or politics due to his many political guests. So I dont see any similarities there.
Imus was really a perfect storm of events. I dont know how that translates to other shows, but we'll soon find out.

[Bulldogcakes]

I should have made this point in my last post but didn't want to re-edit the quote box -- I'm nearly positive that R&F's vacation was scheduled prior to the Imus backlash. I believe it was scheduled for both shows initially to allow XM to redo their studio (which I guess isn't happening now).

Hmmmm so you're part of the conspiracy too? :annoyed:

[mikeyboy]

Hmmmm so you're part of the conspiracy too? :annoyed:

Follow the money

[Gvac]

Did anybody actually try to listen to the bit?

I think I made it through 30 seconds before I had to shut it off. It was embarrassingly awful.

[Fat_Sunny]

Follow the money

Follow A Lawyer And That Will Lead You To The Money!

[cougarjake13]

Did anybody actually try to listen to the bit?

I think I made it through 30 seconds before I had to shut it off. It was embarrassingly awful.

i didnt even try b/c so many people said it was just awful

just bad form

[TheMojoPin]

It's not a very good anaology, though. These shows are doing just fine for their "customers". It's a vocal minority that likely aren't customers/listeners who make decisions as to what the customers/listeners should be receiving. When you were managing the book store, and there were a tiny group of people calling for your firing because they didn't like the content you were stocking (to the detriment of the majority of your customer base), that would be analogous and another bullshit situation. The problem is that management is listening to this vocal minority right now.

Fair enough. Re-reading it, I can see how my analogy is off. Bottom line, I still look at it as actions between employers and employees. I understand why people are frustrated, but the employers of these shows can ultimately decide what they're going to tolerate from their employees or the public reactions that these employees generate. I've been annoyed in the past when management has cracked down on shows I like, but ultimately it's what I said...actions between employers and employees. I understand how it can be really hypocritical since most of these guys are hired because they're "edgy," but no matter how edgy they are they still answer to their bosses, and it's ultimately it's those bosses call as to what they'll tolerate it. I'm not saying people can't disagree with that and get pissed and want these companies to know they're pissed...I just totally disagree with how there's this constant sense of over-importance in terms of "battling for free speech."

[ChoppedLiver]

What disgusts me most about this is that the calls weren't even funny.

Prank calling a Chinese restaurant? I'm pretty sure that was the second phone call Thomas Edison made.

Hacks.


Edison ?? :blink:

[docgoblin]

The real issue is that we're all gonna lose the entertainment that helps get us through the day. It doesn't matter if you hate Imus or consider JV & Elvis hacks. If they can be fired for making a joke that may have offended some racial activists (not the majority of the race in question), then edgy radio, and comedy in general, are truly doomed. When did we get so fucking sensitive?!?! It's disgusting! And don't forget... If JV & Elvis follow Imus to the unemployment line, can O&A or R&F be far behind? How long before they slip up? Even if they don't do themselves in, how long will it be, given the current climate, that commercial radio decides that it's too risky to have edgy talk shows on the air anymore? There won't be room for everyone on one satellite platform... And remember one thing... It's not all about money. Imus was 25% of WFAN's ad revenue, and they cast him out as soon as there was a hint of pressure from a very small group. Even though all the online polls overwhelmingly said that Imus should not have been fired. We are treading on dangerous ground in this country. Soon we'll be listening to our comedy CDs and "offensive" music under the covers so the censorship police don't get us... "Farenheit 451" and "1984" HERE WE COME!!!!

[AcolyteAndy]

Well, At least we still got Nick DiPaolo and and the Radio Chick(Sorry but I really like her show, when I get to listen)..Dick and Skibba suck! At least Larry Wachs is somewhat interesting, esp when he get mad and yells at the callers. His sister scares me thou

Jv and Elvis are just bad Jr High Jokes. Prank Calls? Did that in 7th Grade, guys. The Jerky Boys they are not!

[TheMojoPin]

We are treading on dangerous ground in this country. Soon we'll be listening to our comedy CDs and "offensive" music under the covers so the censorship police don't get us... "Farenheit 451" and "1984" HERE WE COME!!!!

That's funnier than anything JV & Elvis and Imus have ever thought up.

[Don Stugots]

Ok, i am kind of late on this, but CCTV and Peopleagainstcensorship.com is reporting that JV & Elvis were fired for the bit. We keep falling back and losing ground, seriously, soon we will be living in a country that burns books and albums that it feels does not conform or is "offensive." It would turn into that town from "Footloose" before we know it.

[TheMojoPin]

It would turn into that town from "Footloose" before we know it.

But Kenny Loggins' power of ROCK saved them all, so we'll be fine.

[Don Stugots]

But Kenny Loggins' power of ROCK saved them all, so we'll be fine.

true.

[Furtherman]

It would turn into that town from "Footloose" before we know it.

Well then I'll challenge you to the first game of tractor chicken.



*cue Bonnie Tyler music*

[AcolyteAndy]

***** Earlier today this article stated that JV&Elvis had been fired by CBS radio. That information was believed to have come from a reliable source, however it has since then proved to be false. I sincerly appologize to both Jv&Elvis and their fans for the confusion. It is a mistake that shall not be repeated. - S.M. Reid

from Peopleagainstcensorship.com

[Marc with a c]

are we sure they actually were off this week?

[pennington]

According to the NRMB, JV & Elvis have officially been suspended "indefinitely". There will be substitute hosts in their time slot starting Monday.

My opinion of CBS management can not possibly be any lower.

[JPMNICK]

According to the NRMB, JV & Elvis have officially been suspended "indefinitely". There will be substitute hosts in their time slot starting Monday.

My opinion of CBS management can not possibly be any lower.

so i guess this was def not a bit

[Mr.Pants]

I finally got around to listening to the bit. It's pretty tame. These guys probably should be defended with more vigor even if they're not your cup of tea.