View Full Version : Bernard McGurk on Hannity and Colmes
docgoblin
04-26-2007, 05:40 PM
Did anyone see this appearance? This guy is a true professional. He knew exactly when to bash Sharpton, and he said all the right things. He gave the best testimony as to why no one should have lost their jobs. Both Hannity and Colmes were great also. I can't wait to hear from the I-Man sometime in the future. I'm hoping he will go on with O&A at some point after all the lawyers are finished with their nonsense.
Arch Stanton
04-26-2007, 05:49 PM
Missed it. Replay is at 12:00
Snacks
04-26-2007, 07:50 PM
I agree no one should have been fired but I have never liked Bernard McGurk. He's an asshole and not funny.
Bob Impact
04-26-2007, 07:51 PM
Ah Bernard, ya Jerk. Moby Worm, comin' to get ya!
johnniewalker
04-26-2007, 08:16 PM
It kinda pisses me off, he is a well spoken person. Why the hell wouldn't he go on meet the press or someone else that he frequently had on. Maybe it was so one sided because people like o and a and all the members kept quiet.
docgoblin
04-27-2007, 04:03 PM
He was on Hannitys radio show today and was even more outspoken. i would love to see him go on Russerts TV show Sunday and tear him up. Imus is laying low because hes got the legal eagles working the case. Bernard really has nothing to lose. Russert doesnt have the balls to go toe-to-toe with Bernard on national TV. What a backstabber that guy turned out to be. I cant wait for Imus to get back on the air and tell these assholes to screw themselves when they want to come on and plug their books, TV shows, or political campaigns.
Snacks
04-27-2007, 05:04 PM
He was on Hannitys radio show today and was even more outspoken. i would love to see him go on Russerts TV show Sunday and tear him up. Imus is laying low because hes got the legal eagles working the case. Bernard really has nothing to lose. Russert doesnt have the balls to go toe-to-toe with Bernard on national TV. What a backstabber that guy turned out to be. I cant wait for Imus to get back on the air and tell these assholes to screw themselves when they want to come on and plug their books, TV shows, or political campaigns.
What did Russert do or say?
Tenbatsuzen
04-27-2007, 05:29 PM
What did Russert do or say?
Sold Imus out bigtime on several shows. An equivalent would be Patrice talking shit about O&A on newschannels if they get fired.
Bulldogcakes
04-27-2007, 05:54 PM
Sold Imus out bigtime on several shows. An equivalent would be Patrice talking shit about O&A on newschannels if they get fired.
How so? I've heard this referred to by many people but never got any specifics.
I hope people understand as the head of NBC news, he has to be careful about what he says. But I saw him on Meet The Press do the whole roundtable on Imus, and he kept giving Imus arguments and let people respond to them. Thats about the most he can do, and maintain his credibility as an objective journalist and as the chair (sort of a referee) on that show.
It would be more interesting to see him on "Larry King" where HE'S being interviewed, then he'd be more at liberty to give his personal opinions. But watching Meet the Press I got the impression he was sympathetic to Imus, it just wasn't the right forum to give his personal views.
BTW-Bernie rules, he was always the funniest guy on that show. Sometimes the only funny one.
lleeder
04-27-2007, 06:17 PM
How so? I've heard this referred to by many people but never got any specifics.
I hope people understand as the head of NBC news, he has to be careful about what he says. But I saw him on Meet The Press do the whole roundtable on Imus, and he kept giving Imus arguments and let people respond to them. Thats about the most he can do, and maintain his credibility as an objective journalist and as the chair (sort of a referee) on that show.
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As a guy with pull he could have gotten Imus's back and helped him not get fired. They were friends. Sometimes you have to go to bat for people you're friends with. He chose to let the guy get taken down for nothing. If people with "names" stuck up for the guy then his detractors would have no power
Bulldogcakes
04-27-2007, 06:31 PM
As a guy with pull he could have gotten Imus's back and helped him not get fired. They were friends. Sometimes you have to go to bat for people you're friends with. He chose to let the guy get taken down for nothing. If people with "names" stuck up for the guy then his detractors would have no power
I really dont think that would have helped, it probably would only have hurt Russert's own career. You have to understand that as a bigshot Washington journalist he has to maintain a certain level of objectivity, or else he'll turn off (and lose) many of his viewers. He works for a big company that wont stand for that. Plus, even Imus himself said he couldn't defend what he said.
Leeder, I'm really looking for something specific that shows me where he "sold out" Imus. I'm not being argumentative, I'd really like to see it.
For the people who wanted Russert to defend Imus more, I think they just don't get the nature of his job.
TheMojoPin
04-27-2007, 07:29 PM
As a guy with pull he could have gotten Imus's back and helped him not get fired. They were friends. Sometimes you have to go to bat for people you're friends with. He chose to let the guy get taken down for nothing. If people with "names" stuck up for the guy then his detractors would have no power
Do you really think the face of NBC news is going to step out for a dusty old shock jock past his prime over the issue of a racially insulting comment? That's never going to happen in a million years, friends or not. And that's hardly "selling him out."
There was more to the firing from MSNBC. I read an article that said he was a complete asshole to everyone who worked at MSNBC. Imus would berate workers off-air and bad mouth them on-air. It got to the point where the head of MSNBC had to tell female interns to stay away from Imus. He couldn't have been surprised when the employees there revolted against him. You can't treat people like shit and then expect their support.
Tenbatsuzen
04-27-2007, 08:00 PM
There was more to the firing from MSNBC. I read an article that said he was a complete asshole to everyone who worked at MSNBC. Imus would berate workers off-air and bad mouth them on-air. It got to the point where the head of MSNBC had to tell female interns to stay away from Imus. He couldn't have been surprised when the employees there revolted against him. You can't treat people like shit and then expect their support.
the same could be said of a lot of radio personalities.
docgoblin
04-28-2007, 05:52 AM
There was more to the firing from MSNBC. I read an article that said he was a complete asshole to everyone who worked at MSNBC. Imus would berate workers off-air and bad mouth them on-air. It got to the point where the head of MSNBC had to tell female interns to stay away from Imus. He couldn't have been surprised when the employees there revolted against him. You can't treat people like shit and then expect their support.
The same can be said for 90% of the entertainment industry. It doesn't mean they deserve to be fired for hurting someone's feelings.
I love Bernard's term for Sharpton, "The Bully with the Bullhorn."
JimBeam
04-28-2007, 09:25 AM
I always liked Bernard ( except his Mayor Nagin bit which was always kinda redundant ).
I'm still not sure why he got fired.
John Kerry's a well known face and he had no problems saying he though that Imus being fired was wrong.
Don't tell me Russert's job is more important to him than Kerry's aspirations of ever running for President again.
TheMojoPin
04-28-2007, 09:56 AM
The same can be said for 90% of the entertainment industry. It doesn't mean they deserve to be fired for hurting someone's feelings.
You're twisting this. You're the one that brought up people "selling out" Imus...Hbox and I have both pointed out not only was he not really "sold out" by Russert, but it's pretty hard to expect people to rally to your aid when you've been a flaming ass for decades. No, that's not saying he should be fired...but don't be shocked when people don't feel like sticking their necks out for an ass.
docgoblin
04-28-2007, 06:15 PM
You're twisting this. You're the one that brought up people "selling out" Imus...Hbox and I have both pointed out not only was he not really "sold out" by Russert, but it's pretty hard to expect people to rally to your aid when you've been a flaming ass for decades. No, that's not saying he should be fired...but don't be shocked when people don't feel like sticking their necks out for an ass.
Mojo,
The previous post about Kerry is a very good point. Kerry, McCain and Giuliani have far more to lose than Tim Russert, yet they all backed Imus (as well as did Senator Lieberman I believe). McCain and Giuliani are both considered top contenders for the '08 presidency and they both had the balls to stand up for free speech regarding the Imus situation, whereas the pussy Russert (whom Imus sold many books for) could not. Your argument is not valid.
Snacks
04-29-2007, 03:28 AM
Mojo,
The previous post about Kerry is a very good point. Kerry, McCain and Giuliani have far more to lose than Tim Russert, yet they all backed Imus (as well as did Senator Lieberman I believe). McCain and Giuliani are both considered top contenders for the '08 presidency and they both had the balls to stand up for free speech regarding the Imus situation, whereas the pussy Russert (whom Imus sold many books for) could not. Your argument is not valid.
I did not know this, thanks.
I did know that Obama said he should be fired or something like that. He had my vote but now I have been thinking is he only going defend blacks and not all. Is he going to honor the constitution for everyone or use it only when it benifits him? I hope this was just a bad political mistake. What did Hillary say?
docgoblin
04-29-2007, 04:34 AM
I did not know this, thanks.
I did know that Obama said he should be fired or something like that. He had my vote but now I have been thinking is he only going defend blacks and not all. Is he going to honor the constitution for everyone or use it only when it benifits him? I hope this was just a bad political mistake. What did Hillary say?
Hillary basically was non-commital. Imus trashed her savagely over the past several years, so I'm sure she was glad he got fired. She just kinda said that she'd never go on his show but didn't say much beyond that. She was actually less condeming than Obama and some others. She knows how to play the political game, you gotta give her that. The bottom line is that Imus pissed many people off over the years and I guess some of them feel some measure of satisfaction since he got fired. Harold Ford Jr. is an intersting case. I'm a little surprised that he didn't show a little loyalty given that Imus went all out trying to get him elected to the Senate. I'm sure Imus will be back on radio by the end of the year if he really wants to be. If he comes back it'll be interesting to see how he handles the people that he may feel were not very supportive. He may just take the high road, knowing that in some cases people were afraid they'd damage their careers (like Ford and Russert) if they defended him. I think it's obvious now that no one cares who stood up for him. It hasn't hurt McCain or Giuliani at all. Not to mention several others.
TheMojoPin
04-29-2007, 08:38 AM
Mojo,
The previous post about Kerry is a very good point. Kerry, McCain and Giuliani have far more to lose than Tim Russert, yet they all backed Imus (as well as did Senator Lieberman I believe). McCain and Giuliani are both considered top contenders for the '08 presidency and they both had the balls to stand up for free speech regarding the Imus situation, whereas the pussy Russert (whom Imus sold many books for) could not. Your argument is not valid.
That's still not "selling him out." And it's not a free speech issue. Russert has no obligation to back up Imus. Nobody does.
JimBeam
04-29-2007, 09:20 AM
Sure Russert didnt have an obligation to support Imus but again he had no problem putting up with the nonsense whne he was pushing his books and droning on about his relationaships with his father and son.
As for Ford here's a guy who couldnt get elected with the support of a major radio personality. How well will he do without all that extra publicity ?
I've never been a fan of Kerry's but I will give him credit for speaking up.
He wasn't a coward like some others.
JohnWC
04-29-2007, 05:57 PM
Here is the video if you missed it:
Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mH_nDP0RM&mode=related&search=)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czmpdNPkM0k&mode=related&search=)
Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh9CpZuxd94&mode=related&search=)
DolaMight
04-30-2007, 10:37 AM
Bernie was the glue that kept the show goin even with Imus' dementia. Guy's as quick as anyone on the radio short of Mr. B. Correct, his Ray Nagan was awful right from the getgo but everything else he did was brilliant, but just mainly shooting the shit, he's the best.
I think he would have been great out there defending Imus but he clearly didn't speak until now because Imus asked him to wait.
Imus would never work on XM or Sirius, because satellite draws no guests and that's Imus' whole gimick but Bernie seriously is someone I would love to hear untethered.
If Imus doesn't get a new NY/Washington FM gig (which i think he won't) I believe there's an opportunity for a Bernie and Sid show.
They'd need a 1st mic because neither of them can pull off an interview. When Imus was frequently off sick on life support, it was unsustainable because Charles, Lou, Bernie, Sid and Chris were painfully awkward talking to guests.
Pantywagger
05-11-2007, 07:43 AM
The I-man is/was loved because of his cantankerous attitude. He has a heart of gold and if anybody got upset over the way he acted, they didn't understand him. He could dish it out but he could also take it. When some of the MSNBC staff started to give it back to him, he loved it and made fun of himself right along with them. An example was when Imus was doing the show remotely for a few weeks from his ranch in New Mexico (the kids with cancer were at the ranch so he did a remote show), one of the MSNBC staff members put up a huge sign in the studio with a daily countdown that said "Free From Imus". It was hilarious and Imus loved it.
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