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LordJezo
04-27-2007, 07:32 AM
A boy dies, and a gun debate is reignited (http://www.cleveland.com/concealed/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/117740407596600.xml&coll=2)

Wells drew his and shot one of the boys several times in the chest, police said. Arthur Buford, 15, died after stumbling away and collapsing on a sidewalk near East 134th Street and Kinsman Road.

An angry throng of about 30 youths gathered Monday and set up a memorial at the intersection where Buford, a freshman at John F. Kennedy High School, died.

His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter.

"They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

sailor
04-27-2007, 07:37 AM
His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter.

"They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

um, he and his friend pulled a gun and were robbing this guy, you loon. i feel bad for her and her family, but how can you feel bad for the dead kid?

LordJezo
04-27-2007, 07:41 AM
um, he and his friend pulled a gun and were robbing this guy, you loon. i feel bad for her and her family, but how can you feel bad for the dead kid?

Yeah that's what I am trying to figure out. The two dudes were ready to attack and potentially kill this guy but he fought back. How the hell is there even any kind of debate here? But I suppose in a land where if someone hurts themselves while robbing your house and they can sue, anything can happen.

Dougie Brootal
04-27-2007, 07:45 AM
haha i love jezo's misleading thread titles!! i was all set to come in here guns blazing but i read the article and that punk deserved it hahahaha! fuck that kid!

sailor
04-27-2007, 07:46 AM
haha i love jezo's misleading thread titles!! i was all set to come in here guns blazing but i read the article and that punk deserved it hahahaha! fuck that kid!

yeah, this title was a real screwball.

ScottFromGA
04-27-2007, 07:47 AM
Yeah that's what I am trying to figure out. The two dudes were ready to attack and potentially kill this guy but he fought back. How the hell is there even any kind of debate here? But I suppose in a land where if someone hurts themselves while robbing your house and they can sue, anything can happen.

once again........people wonder why southern white people dont like ignorant B_ _ _ _ s!

Marc with a c
04-27-2007, 07:47 AM
i don't get it. what does this have to do with sheepy?

King Hippos Bandaid
04-27-2007, 07:49 AM
haha i love jezo's misleading thread titles!! i was all set to come in here guns blazing but i read the article and that punk deserved it hahahaha! fuck that kid!

agreed, Dont be upset for your Cousin, he was ready to Mug another Human Being

:king:

sailor
04-27-2007, 07:50 AM
once again........people wonder why southern white people dont like ignorant B_ _ _ _ s!

uncalled for.

sailor
04-27-2007, 07:51 AM
agreed, Dont be upset for your Cousin, he was ready to Mug another Human Being

:king:

i have no problem with her being upset over his death. i just think her righteous indignation in out of place here.

A.J.
04-27-2007, 07:51 AM
i feel bad for her and her family

I don't. I'm glad the herd was thinned a little bit -- and at no cost to the taxpayer.

Friday
04-27-2007, 07:52 AM
WAKE UP!!!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/8/84/SchoolDazeScreenshotWakeUp.jpg

angrymissy
04-27-2007, 08:10 AM
um, he and his friend pulled a gun and were robbing this guy, you loon. i feel bad for her and her family, but how can you feel bad for the dead kid?

Yeah, seriously, WTF - your cousin WAS READY TO SHOOT THE GUY!


His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter.

"They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

AgnosticJihad
04-27-2007, 08:25 AM
haha i love jezo's misleading thread titles!! i was all set to come in here guns blazing but i read the article and that punk deserved it hahahaha! fuck that kid!

My thoughts exactly.

As for the upset relatives, they are probably upset because they can't admit to themselves that their family member was a fucking punk and believe in their hearts that he was innocent, and anti-concealed weapons proponents are seizing the opportunity to expolit this incident for their own gain.

patsopinion
04-27-2007, 08:29 AM
how many people had this kid and his buddies robbed previously at gun point and got away with it.

I guess the argument is if the shooter hadnt had a gun then he would have just been robbed, and everything would be good.

The main problem that i see is that the person who had the gun got away
why did he shoot the kid and then the gun showed up somewhere else?

FUNKMAN
04-27-2007, 08:31 AM
http://www.navs-online.org/fest02/photos/Bernie_Goetz.jpg

TheMojoPin
04-27-2007, 09:09 AM
once again........people wonder why southern white people dont like ignorant B_ _ _ _ s!

Once again, nobody wonders why we don't give a flying fuck about "southern white people."

Jesus, Jezo, can your threads ever NOT be as inaccurate as possible? It's like 30 people pissed that their idiot friend/family member got killed robbing people. That's not "reigniting the gun control debate."

PapaBear
04-27-2007, 09:44 AM
We had a case here, where a guy was jumped by five other guys. He pulled out a knife and killed one, and injured two. He wasn't arrested (as he shouldn't have been), but his family is raising the same kind of stink. They are outraged that he wasn't charged with murder. HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF!!!



BTW... These people were all white.

EliSnow
04-27-2007, 09:47 AM
We had a case here, where a guy was jumped by five other guys. He pulled out a knife and killed one, and injured two. He wasn't arrested (as he shouldn't have been), but his family is raising the same kind of stink. They are outraged that he wasn't charged with murder. HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF!!!


The only issue is whether the force used was above what was reasonably necessary to defend himself against the force against him. If the five other guys were just trying to give him a wedgie (I'm assuming it was more than that), and he took out a knife and used it, then self-defense is not a defense.

PapaBear
04-27-2007, 09:49 AM
They were pounding the shit out of him. I'm guessing that's why he wasn't arrested. He was handcuffed, questioned, then let go.

Justice4all
04-27-2007, 09:56 AM
Don't blame LJ...it was not him. He was quoting the title of the article. If anything, blame the idiot that named the damn thing in the newspaper.

EliSnow
04-27-2007, 09:58 AM
They were pounding the shit out of him. I'm guessing that's why he wasn't arrested. He was handcuffed, questioned, then let go.

I figured as much, but it has to be considered.

ScottFromGA
04-27-2007, 01:29 PM
Once again, nobody wonders why we don't give a flying fuck about "southern white people."

Jesus, Jezo, can your threads ever NOT be as inaccurate as possible? It's like 30 people pissed that their idiot friend/family member got killed robbing people. That's not "reigniting the gun control debate."

people dont give a flying fuck about "southern white people" ??!??!!

GET OUT!! I thought everyone thought about the "southern white people"!

im astounded, i really thought everyone thought about us!!

jeez....ill go alert the media....:wink: :laugh: :thumbup:

TheMojoPin
04-27-2007, 01:31 PM
people dont give a flying fuck about "southern white people" ??!??!!

GET OUT!! I thought everyone thought about the "southern white people"!

im astounded, i really thought everyone thought about us!!

jeez....ill go alert the media....:wink: :laugh: :thumbup:

Hurry, the last express mule leaves before 6!

I know I'm going for the cheap shot, but come on...you've played this "picked upon white people in the south" thing a few times now. Nobody's buying it. That shit was old before it was new.

Wallower
04-27-2007, 01:59 PM
A boy dies, and a gun debate is reignited (http://www.cleveland.com/concealed/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/117740407596600.xml&coll=2)

Wells drew his and shot one of the boys several times in the chest, police said. Arthur Buford, 15, died after stumbling away and collapsing on a sidewalk near East 134th Street and Kinsman Road.

An angry throng of about 30 youths gathered Monday and set up a memorial at the intersection where Buford, a freshman at John F. Kennedy High School, died.

His cousin, Tameka Foster, 21, questioned why police did not punish Buford's shooter.

"They let that man run out freely," Foster said. "My cousin is dead."

Back, and to the left.
Back, and to the left.
Back...
and to the left.

epo
04-27-2007, 02:08 PM
people dont give a flying fuck about "southern white people" ??!??!!

GET OUT!! I thought everyone thought about the "southern white people"!

im astounded, i really thought everyone thought about us!!

jeez....ill go alert the media....:wink: :laugh: :thumbup:

Don't worry, I'm not thinking about southern white people at all. The only times I think about your existence is whenever I see George W. Bush. Thanks alot assholes.

sailor
04-27-2007, 02:11 PM
Don't worry, I'm not thinking about southern white people at all. The only times I think about your existence is whenever I see George W. Bush. Thanks alot assholes.

what, mr new haven, ct makes you think of the south?

AcolyteAndy
04-27-2007, 02:45 PM
Sounds like self-defense to me.

FREE BERNIE GEOTZ!!

Opps. just had another '80s flashback.

A.J.
04-28-2007, 11:49 AM
what, mr new haven, ct makes you think of the south?

Skynard, Man!!!!!!!