Josh Hancock Dies

[sailor]

cards reliever, 29, killed in car crash (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/wires/04/29/2010.ap.bbn.cardinals.hancock.killed.1st.ld.writet hru.0321/). tonight's game with cubs postponed. no sunday night game this week. my heart goes out to his family, teammates and all card fans

[johnniewalker]

Hard to believe. Terrible.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Tragic story..Tonights Cardinals game is postponed. definitely the right thing to do. Hopefully the media doesnt speculate like they did with Darryl Kyle. Turned up he had no drugs or alcohol in his system at all, but i wouldnt put it past those douches

[TheMojoPin]

Man, just saw him pitch against the Cubs last night. So strange...what a tragedy. Makes me think of then that Cardinals player died right before a game between them and the Cubs at Wrigley like 5-6 years ago, and Joe Girardi came out and announced it and the cancellation of the game while choking up...a real heartbreaking moment.

[FezPaul]

Man, just saw him pitch against the Cubs last night.

I watched that game too.

[J.Clints]

Very sad story. My herat goes out to his family and friends

[FezPaul]

Makes me think of then that Cardinals player died right before a game between them and the Cubs at Wrigley like 5-6 years ago, and Joe Girardi came out and announced it and the cancellation of the game while choking up...a real heartbreaking moment.

Joe Girardi was doing color last night for the Fox broadcast. Ironic.

[lleeder]

Thats horrible. Seems like pitchers have the worst luck out of all baseball players. They always end up in car accidents.

[Fallon]

Thats horrible. Seems like pitchers have the worst luck out of all baseball players. They always end up in car accidents.
Boats too.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

He was my Age ,29, very scary shit, RIP

He had pitched yesterday 3 innings, damn hates when this happens

:king:

[A.J.]

I had forgotten he was briefly a member of the Red Sox.

On Dec. 15, 2002, Theo dealt righthanded pitcher Josh Hancock to the Phillies for Giambi. In 50 games, Giambi batted only .197 while delaying the emergence of David Ortiz as the team's DH. He was released in Nov. 2003.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Boats too.

Hedge trimmers too.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Tragic story..Tonights Cardinals game is postponed. definitely the right thing to do. Hopefully the media doesnt speculate like they did with Darryl Kyle. Turned up he had no drugs or alcohol in his system at all, but i wouldnt put it past those douches

well... he was driving, alone, at 12:35, and hit another vehicle.

I'm not saying anything, maybe he fell asleep behind the wheel... but...

[AngelAmy]

oh my god thats horrible

i used to work for the trenton thunder when he played for them...his wife is a sweetheart
had a scare one night when he got beamed in the face with a line drive up the middle that broke his jaw and she was so strong for him

just terrible

[ChrisTheCop]

Boats too.

Let's not forget planes.

R.I.P.

[Cleophus James]

Not again. :sad:

[cougarjake13]

Not again. :sad:

man you guys are snake bit

[TheMojoPin]

oh my god thats horrible

i used to work for the trenton thunder when he played for them...his wife is a sweetheart
had a scare one night when he got beamed in the face with a line drive up the middle that broke his jaw and she was so strong for him

just terrible

Is he divorced? All the reports I've read are saying he wasn't married and didn't have any kids.

It's sounding more and more like he was royally sloshed when he got behind the wheel. It's tragic that he died so young, but we're lucky he didn't kill someone else.

[AngelAmy]

Is he divorced? All the reports I've read are saying he wasn't married and didn't have any kids.

It's sounding more and more like he was royally sloshed when he got behind the wheel. It's tragic that he died so young, but we're lucky he didn't kill someone else.

hmm maybe that was just his girlfriend then. i thought it was his wife.

[crabbyjohn]

Then I'm happy he killed only himself....of course if he was not drunk then this was tragic.

[sailor]

hancock was apparently involved in a minor accident (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2854743) 3 days before the fatal crash. it was reportedly inches away from being very serious.

[TheMojoPin]

hancock was apparently involved in a minor accident (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2854743) 3 days before the fatal crash. it was reportedly inches away from being very serious.

I read that he was very late for practice like a week or so ago and the organization was trying to track him down out of concern as opposed to just "where the hell are you." Sounds like he had some bad habits that finally caught up with him and the ballclub might have been aware of them.

[AgnosticJihad]

Damn you, rain! Knocking out my power while I'm trying to post!

Anyway........

He was drunk. I know that this hasn't been officially determined, but it's pretty obvious at this point. I have heard on local news/radio programs that some of his fellow players were well aware that he had a drinking problem, and that this is the reason they were searching for him out of concern when he was late for practice a week or so earlier. While I am being a "speculating douche", if it is determined that he was not drunk, I will gladly apologize in a future post for what I am about to say.

I have no sympathy for him. He was driving drunk down highway 270 and ran into a tow truck that was stopped along the highway, assisting another vehicle (fortunately no one else was hurt). I drive the same stretch of 270 that he was on everyday, at least twice a day, and often late at night. It easily could've been me and/or my pregnant girlfriend that he hit. I drank every day for three years straight, and in all that time I somehow managed to never drive drunk. While I do feel bad for his wife and kids (if he even had any), but as far as he's concerned the irresponsible cunt got what he deserved. Fuck him.

Also, I'm getting a little sick of hearing people compare this "tragedy" to the death of Darryl Kile. Kile died of a freak heart condition, not due to his own idiocy. It's nowhere near the same thing.

[sailor]

from the way i read it, the tow truck wasn't alongside the road, but actually in a lane. major difference.

[TheMojoPin]

Also, I'm getting a little sick of hearing people compare this "tragedy" to the death of Darryl Kile. Kile died of a freak heart condition, not due to his own idiocy. It's nowhere near the same thing.

The circumstances are totally different, but the scenario of an active Cardinals pitcher dying during a Cubs/Cardinals series has only happened once before, so the comparisons are inevitable. And while I agree that if he was drunk driving he ultimately just brought it upon himself, an active baseball player dying during a season is a pretty rare occurance, so it shouldn't be difficult to see why people would look at it as sad or tragic.

[Cleophus James]

from the way i read it, the tow truck wasn't alongside the road, but actually in a lane. major difference.
I was wondering that. They would say assiting in the left lane. There is a big difference between the sholder and the lane of traffic.

I just hope his bac wasn't too high. Then it will be pile on to the dead guy time. Just let him die.

[Cleophus James]

The circumstances are totally different, but the scenario of an active Cardinals pitcher dying during a Cubs/Cardinals series has only happened once before, so the comparisons are inevitable. And while I agree that if he was drunk driving he ultimately just brought it upon himself, an active baseball player dying during a season is a pretty rare occurance, so it shouldn't be difficult to see why people would look at it as sad or tragic.

You can almost see the difference in the Stl media coverage. They might as well say "this is very sad, but we have been through this before, and it wasn't a starter."

[El Mudo]

Was drunk, and marijuana was also in the car (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2860122)

[crb1]

I was wondering that. They would say assiting in the left lane. There is a big difference between the sholder and the lane of traffic.

I just hope his bac wasn't too high. Then it will be pile on to the dead guy time. Just let him die.

BAC almost twice the legal limit. I doubt it will be "pile on the dead guy," but you can bet there will be a ton of articles urging teams to get rid of the beer available in every clubhouse after games (although the A's got rid of it after Esteban Loiza got nailed for a DUI last season).

[AgnosticJihad]

I was incorrect about him being on the side of the road; he was in the left-hand lane. And the accident was on Highway 40, not 270 (not sure where I got that from). But he was drunk, two times over the legal BAC, so my point still stands: he died due to his own irresponsibility, and he could've killed others.

Here's a link to video of the accident, for all of the morbidly voyueristic:

http://www.kmox.com/pages/406549.php

[TheMojoPin]

Was drunk, and marijuana was also in the car (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2860122)

And he was apparently on the phone at the time, supposedly texting a stripper he knew. How many vices can one guy be doing to cause his death? Early death and all, but what a dick. He could have killed plenty of other people driving like that.

[cougarjake13]

And he was apparently on the phone at the time, supposedly texting a stripper he knew. How many vices can one guy be doing to cause his death? Early death and all, but what a dick. He could have killed plenty of other people driving like that.

man at least he went out as good as he can

[Tenbatsuzen]

Let's not forget planes.

R.I.P.

You're supposed to be immortalized in Cooperstown, not vaporized in Canton!

nothing?

[sailor]

And he was apparently on the phone at the time, supposedly texting a stripper he knew. How many vices can one guy be doing to cause his death? Early death and all, but what a dick. He could have killed plenty of other people driving like that.

i heard he was speaking with a "female acquaintance"

[Cleophus James]

29 single releif pitcher, How else do you kill time?

[Furtherman]

And he was apparently on the phone at the time, supposedly texting a stripper he knew. How many vices can one guy be doing to cause his death? Early death and all, but what a dick. He could have killed plenty of other people driving like that.

I wonder what the text symbol for crash is?


so u @ club 2nite? HS! CRSH!!!!

[cougarjake13]

29 single releif pitcher, How else do you kill time?

ohhhhh

is kill the right word to be using ???

[Cleophus James]

ohhhhh

is kill the right word to be using ???
oopps

[johnniewalker]

And he was apparently on the phone at the time, supposedly texting a stripper he knew. How many vices can one guy be doing to cause his death? Early death and all, but what a dick. He could have killed plenty of other people driving like that.

He could have, but he didn't. Everyone loves to look in hindsight and point their fingers when something bad happens. This time nothing did, so I think we can stop trying to take the moral highground and imagining scenarios where something bad could happen. He fucked up, he had a alcohol problem, and he payed with his life. I'm not pointing this directly at you, but who the hell are people to criticize this kid when you could have fucked up at some point in your life. Get over yourselves and just have common sympathy as a human.

[TheMojoPin]

He could have, but he didn't. Everyone loves to look in hindsight and point their fingers when something bad happens. This time nothing did, so I think we can stop trying to take the moral highground and imagining scenarios where something bad could happen. He fucked up, he had a alcohol problem, and he payed with his life. I'm not pointing this directly at you, but who the hell are people to criticize this kid when you could have fucked up at some point in your life. Get over yourselves and just have common sympathy as a human.

Wait, wait, wait...death isn't some kind of great equalizer where the faults/sins/stupidity/whatever of the dead are just magically erased simply because they died unexpectedly. I LOATHE drunk drivers. They show zero concern for everyone around them by willfully and often repeatedly (definitely repeatedly in Hancock's case) getting hammered and then getting behind a wheel. They are CHOOSING to make themselves a deadly menace to everyone around them, and I have no sympathy for that. Got an alcohol problem? DON'T FUCKING DRIVE. Walk, take a bus, call a cab, hitch a ride...just don't drive! Guys like Hancock making that decision over and over again shows that they're completely uncaring to the people around them, so why are we supposed to suddenly care about them after they die due to their stupid mistakes? And we're supposed to let him off the hook because luckily he didn't hurt or kill anyone else? Screw that.

I don't care if it's a stranger a friend or a family member, I think drunk drivers, especially those that choose to do it again and again, are thoughtless scum who ultimately are going to reep what they sow. I'm not telling his friends and family that they can't grieve for him...I'm not mocking their pain...but I see no reason for ME to have any kind of sympathy outside of a basic "oh, that was unexpected" for someone who repeatedly hits the road tanked to the gills and is a meance to anyone and everyone around him. That's not a moral high ground...that's common sense.

I don't drive drunk. It's not hard to avoid. Yet this guy did it over and over again. He got what was coming to him, bottom line. It sucks that he died young and didn't learn from his mistakes, but he's the one that refused to learn from them in the first place and inisted on CHOOSING to make them again and again. Calling out a repeat drunk driver isn't "hindsight"...it's seeing things for what they are. I don't like being told I can't have a critical opinion of someone who was choosing to break the law repeatedly and luckily avoided killing anyone else.

[johnniewalker]

Wait, wait, wait...death isn't some kind of great equalizer where the faults/sins/stupidity/whatever of the dead are just magically erased simply because they died unexpectedly. I LOATHE drunk drivers. They show zero concern for everyone around them by willfully and often repeatedly (definitely repeatedly in Hancock's case) getting hammered and then getting behind a wheel. They are CHOOSING to make themselves a deadly menace to everyone around them, and I have no sympathy for that. Got an alcohol problem? DON'T FUCKING DRIVE. Walk, take a bus, call a cab, hitch a ride...just don't drive! Guys like Hancock making that decision over and over again shows that they're completely uncaring to the people around them, so why are we supposed to suddenly care about them after they die due to their stupid mistakes? And we're supposed to let him off the hook because luckily he didn't hurt or kill anyone else? Screw that.

I don't care if it's a stranger a friend or a family member, I think drunk drivers, especially those that choose to do it again and again, are thoughtless scum who ultimately are going to reep what they sow. I'm not telling his friends and family that they can't grieve for him...I'm not mocking their pain...but I see no reason for ME to have any kind of sympathy outside of a basic "oh, that was unexpected" for someone who repeatedly hits the road tanked to the gills and is a meance to anyone and everyone around him. That's not a moral high ground...that's common sense.

I don't drive drunk. It's not hard to avoid. Yet this guy did it over and over again. He got what was coming to him, bottom line. It sucks that he died young and didn't learn from his mistakes, but he's the one that refused to learn from them in the first place and inisted on CHOOSING to make them again and again. Calling out a repeat drunk driver isn't "hindsight"...it's seeing things for what they are. I don't like being told I can't have a critical opinion of someone who was choosing to break the law repeatedly and luckily avoided killing anyone else.

Loathe drunk driving all you want, but its based on an arbitrary label and its a realistic part of our society as long as we keep allowing it. We don't all live in a place where public transportation is realistic or easy. Personal responsibility is an easy way to look at it, he did it so he's responsible... that doesn't explain why it's so prevelant in our society. DUI's are fairly common. We have stricter and stricter laws yet we do nothing in terms of funding transportation from bars. If we really hated it that much, why would we allow drinking and driving at all? That's what it sounds like you want to free people of their choice b/c people have the capacity of making bad choices. I've never understood this line of thought. We have freedom to make choices and enjoy ourselves, but we utterly can't stand when these freedoms have some bad consequences. In that sense he was a tragedy as a consequence of us being able to enjoy ourselves. We could stop every drunk driver, but we choose not to. It's not up to you and others to simply condemn him saying I don't drink and drive so therefore he is a terrible person.

[TheMojoPin]

Loathe drunk driving all you want, but its based on an arbitrary label and its a realistic part of our society as long as we keep allowing it.

We keep allowing it? We just have to accept it because too many people are going to do it anyway despite the laws and warnings and education against it? No thanks.

We don't all live in a place where public transportation is realistic or easy.

Most of us do. Hancock certainly did. There are very, VERY few places in this country where you can't call a cab. You really have to be in the middle of nowhere for there to be no other options besides driving yourself or walking. That said, it has nothing to do with the circumstances surrounding Hancock's death. If anything, it makes him even worse since he had more options than the average person out for a night on the town. He could have easily arranged a driver through the Cardinals.

Personal responsibility is an easy way to look at it, he did it so he's responsible... that doesn't explain why it's so prevelant in our society. DUI's are fairly common. We have stricter and stricter laws yet we do nothing in terms of funding transportation from bars.

The larger issues are all viable and should be discussed, but I don't like how you're presenting that as if they let Hancock off the hook or as if we should feel bad for him because society "allowed" him to be a adangerous idiot on a regular basis.

If we really hated it that much, why would we allow drinking and driving at all? That's what it sounds like you want to free people of their choice b/c people have the capacity of making bad choices. I've never understood this line of thought. We have freedom to make choices and enjoy ourselves, but we utterly can't stand when these freedoms have some bad consequences.

You're spinning waaaaaaay off here. Nobody is depriving anyone of any freedom here. People who go out and get drunk still have plenty of choices...choosing to drive themselves home is the wrong one because it makes them not only a threat to themselves but to others. There is no "right" or "freedom" to drive drunk, legally or socially. You're essentially trying to frame it as it efforts to curb drunk driving is somehow infringing on our rights as Americans..

In that sense he was a tragedy as a consequence of us being able to enjoy ourselves. We could stop every drunk driver, but we choose not to. It's not up to you and others to simply condemn him saying I don't drink and drive so therefore he is a terrible person.

The hell it isn't. I can make the same choices that Hancock could. I make the right ones. I can say that with 1000000% certainty. My choices with alcohol and driving do not endanger myself or others and don't break the law. I can condemn him because there's simply no excuse for what he did, not just once, but at least several times. He was completely in the wrong. There's no way around that, larger social issues/questions or otherwise. I have synpathy for his family for losing a loved one and on the basic level that someone died so young, but not sympathy for the choices he made. To put it bluntly, he chose to kill himself. He's lucky he didn't kill anyone else. In that context, I have zero sympathy for him.

[Cleophus James]

Do I have the ability to control myself or a car above the "Legal Limit" with out risk to others? YES. That's a mistake in legislation, but a .175... wow.

[Jujubees2]

Jesus, this guy was legally drunk, on his cell phone and didn't have a seat belt on and now his father is suing everyone involved because it was all THEIR faults! Maybe I can see a problem with the person who served him too much, but the tow truck operater?

Hancock's father sues, claims son was overserved (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2881602)

[midwestjeff]

Jesus, this guy was legally drunk, on his cell phone and didn't have a seat belt on and now his father is suing everyone involved because it was all THEIR faults! Maybe I can see a problem with the person who served him too much, but the tow truck operater?

Hancock's father sues, claims son was overserved (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2881602)

fucking stupid. a 29 year-old man that drinks too much is completely responsible for whatever shit follows. i'm embarrassed for the organization that this asshole is trying to take this situation in this direction. fucking cunt. i'm glad your son is dead. well, not really, but you're still a cunt.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Fucking Dram Shop Laws, Their Son Dies from Breaking the Law, now its time to Cash in, Only in America

:king:

[AgnosticJihad]

Jesus, this guy was legally drunk, on his cell phone and didn't have a seat belt on and now his father is suing everyone involved because it was all THEIR faults! Maybe I can see a problem with the person who served him too much, but the tow truck operater?

Hancock's father sues, claims son was overserved (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2881602)

I just saw this shit on the fucking news minutes ago. Of course, it's everyone's fault but Hancock's. Fucking disgusting. Not only do they blame the bar and the tow truck driver, but the person who's car stalled?!?!?!?! I've no doubt this suit will ultimately be thrown out, but it pisses me off the courts even have to deal with this load of shit. I've had no sympathy for Hancock since the day he died, but did feel for his family, but not anymore. Fuck 'em.

[Friday]

The family members who are allowing this law suit to go forth should be ASHAMED.
Their son, aside from driving drunk, also had drugs in his car and was on his cell... these are all personal choices and the responsibility is his ALONE.

How would the restaurant employees know that he was even driving... and unless he was being beligerent, it can be very tough to tell when a person has gone beyond their personal limit. And don't even get me started on blaming the person who is broken down on the side of the road.

This lawsuit is the vehicular equivalent of suing McDonalds because YOU spilled your coffee on your lap and burned yourself.

FOR SHAME!

[Fallon]

His father has no case. That should be thrown out of court.

[crb1]

His father has no case. That should be thrown out of court.

Agree 100%. And it most likely will be tossed, especially the suit against the tow truck company and the driver with the broke down car.

[JackStraw]

Didn't the restaurant manager repeatedly offer to call the man a cab? His family should be ashamed.

[Iamnotatool]

This lawsuit is the vehicular equivalent of suing McDonalds because YOU spilled your coffee on your lap and burned yourself.


dingdingding

that one worked, why not?

[Cleophus James]

I hope this is just from the emotion of losing a child. They can't be serious.

[IMSlacker]

This lawsuit is the vehicular equivalent of suing McDonalds because YOU spilled your coffee on your lap and burned yourself.

The McDonalds case actually had a lot more merit than this one. This is just sillyness.

[crb1]

I hope this is just from the emotion of losing a child. They can't be serious.

Either that or some ambulance-chasing lawyer talked him into this bs suit.

[A.J.]

I hope this is just from the emotion of losing a meal ticket. They can't be serious.

Fixed that for you.

[TheMojoPin]

The McDonalds case actually had a lot more merit than this one. This is just sillyness.

Agreed. It's pretty dumb that the original coffee lawsuit was "joked" into something that it was not. The woman behind that case originally sued simply because she wanted McDonald's to pay for the medical bills she built up getting treatment for the third degree burns she suffered. Let me repeat that...THIRD DEGREE BURNS. People need to realize that there's such a huge difference between "usually" being burned by hot coffee and receiving burns that are essentially burning the skin and tissue off of your bones. Serving anything that can casue that kind of damage is retarded.

[oh_kee_pa]

Who told you to put the baum on? Did i tell you to put the baum on? I didnt tell you to put the baum on!

We will offer you free coffe for life....

I'll take it!

[Yerdaddy]

I'll miss his beautiful signatures.

[PapaBear]

I'll miss his beautiful signatures.
Dude... Joss is a GIRL!
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/jo/joss-stone-hand-signed-colour-photo-mounted-14.jpg


Oh, and... Stupid, stupid lawsuit. Really... stupid.

[Yerdaddy]

Loathe drunk driving all you want, but its based on an arbitrary label and its a realistic part of our society as long as we keep allowing it. We don't all live in a place where public transportation is realistic or easy. Personal responsibility is an easy way to look at it, he did it so he's responsible... that doesn't explain why it's so prevelant in our society. DUI's are fairly common. We have stricter and stricter laws yet we do nothing in terms of funding transportation from bars. If we really hated it that much, why would we allow drinking and driving at all? That's what it sounds like you want to free people of their choice b/c people have the capacity of making bad choices. I've never understood this line of thought. We have freedom to make choices and enjoy ourselves, but we utterly can't stand when these freedoms have some bad consequences. In that sense he was a tragedy as a consequence of us being able to enjoy ourselves. We could stop every drunk driver, but we choose not to. It's not up to you and others to simply condemn him saying I don't drink and drive so therefore he is a terrible person.

My BAC was .19 when I got my DUI. And guess what? I was a fucking cock every time I drove drunk. And I should have been told so even though I and most of my friends were aware that I had the "disease" of alcoholism. Most people laughed it off or gave me gentle reminders when I drove drunk and I did it all the time. The kid gloves treatment only facilitated my irresponsible behavior - or at least made it a less unatractive choice by removing social stigma to the risks of getting behind the wheel drunk. Instead, I got more concearn from friends and family when I went into recovery, some of whom acted like I was joining some kind of cult or admitting weakness and possibly reflecting an image of their own problems with alcohol. The people who laughed off my drunk driving but busted my balls when I went to meetings weren't doing me or anyone else any favors. They had it backwards. Access to public transportation, public laws, even alcoholism itself have little to do with it when you're making your choices that lead to drunk driving - ultimately if you do it it's the wrong choice and fuck you for it.

I do have some sympathy for this guy because he probably died of the same disease I have. I know as well as anyone that this could have been me. But I also know it could have been worse. And I know that he knew this. I know it's also often harder for celebrities to get sober becuase everyone wants to kiss your ass and sobering up requires sometimes brutal honesty. But it doesn't help the rest of the people struggling with alcoholism or their victims to candy-ass them. Public scorn for bad behavior is an important part of a healthy society.

A quick related anecdote: my meetings were full of people of all addictions and many of my fellow addicts and alcoholics had been homeless at one time or another. A couple times the subject of giving to beggars came up. Everyone who had been homeless said they do not give money to beggars. They would give them advice or cards with locations of different recovery programs or help them, but never money. That's because they said the ability to beg for cash financed their addiction and kept them in it longer, and they couldn't do anything that enabled someone else's addiction.

Bottom line is: there is no excuse for willfully endangering the lives of others. It's morally wrong and that fact should never be ignored.

[I think I've got more bottom lines than a hooker at Ron Bennington's bachelor party.]

[Yerdaddy]

Dude... Joss is a GIRL!
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/jo/joss-stone-hand-signed-colour-photo-mounted-14.jpg


Oh, and... Stupid, stupid lawsuit. Really... stupid.

Dude! She's an incredible singer and smoking hot to boot, but that's the kind of signature you find on the bottom of a Sanjaya fan letter.

Only they usually read: "U R hella bitchin' n have a rad bod. I want to kiss yor purdy mouth. XXXOOO, Reeshy"

[JimBeam]

This will probably make the father's bullshit lawsuit a no go :

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2921319

I still don't understand how he's suing the towtruck driver.

His son, while drunk and talking on the phone, rammed into the car standing still.

How about putting the blame where it belongs.

[sailor]

This will probably make the father's bullshit lawsuit a no go :

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2921319

I still don't understand how he's suing the towtruck driver.

His son, while drunk and talking on the phone, rammed into the car standing still.

How about putting the blame where it belongs.

not justifying it, but there may be generally accepted safety practices for tow-truck drivers that he didn't follow.

[JimBeam]

I had though about that too but I think the guy's just grasping at straws.

He's actually suing the person who's car broke down.

I know nothing about this guy, and I feel bad for his loss, but fuck him.

[Don Stugots]

in NY and NJ, the beacons on the truck should be on from the time you pull up to the scene till you drop the car off, that includes while transporting. Except in Long Island, then you are not allowed to have the beacons on. You might get a ticket. That is how it was 10 years ago, i doubt it has changed.

[sailor]

in NY and NJ, the beacons on the truck should be on from the time you pull up to the scene till you drop the car off, that includes while transporting. Except in Long Island, then you are not allowed to have the beacons on. You might get a ticket. That is how it was 10 years ago, i doubt it has changed.

from what i recall the truck had all lights off. i could have just been high, tho'

[JimBeam]

I find it hard to believe that they were on a road with at least some sort of consistent traffic and they weren't illuiminated in any way.

Still how does the jackass come off suing the person who's car stalled ?

They should've broken down in a more convenient place ?

[sailor]

I find it hard to believe that they were on a road with at least some sort of consistent traffic and they weren't illuiminated in any way.

Still how does the jackass come off suing the person who's car stalled ?

They should've broken down in a more convenient place ?

that's more silly, but his son died and it doesn't affect me who he's suing. cut the guy an ounce of slack.

[JimBeam]

I refuse to give him slack.

Maybe if his son had died doing something valiant and he wanted to lash out and sue to heal some pain I might consdier it.

But again his son died driving drunk and could've killed the tow truck driver ( doing his job ) and the person who had broken down ( innocent person ).

While whomever this guy sues doesnt directly inpact either you or I it's this kinda ridiculous suing that makes the leagal system a joke.

Resources and money will now be wasted to pursue something that could've been avoided if this guy hadn't hit the tow truck.

In a ridiculous countr-suit both the tow truck driver and the person w/ the broken down car should sue Hancock's estate which hopefully is this father.

[J.Clints]

I am going to sue Jim Beam for posting in this thread

[Tenbatsuzen]

If the person who broke down didn't have their hazards on either, that's why they are getting sued too.