Edwards Is Always Ethical!

[Fat_Sunny]

Edwards Was For Shaking Down Hospitals And Doctors For Millions
Edwards Was Against Justice In The Courtroom

Edwards Was For Collecting Hundreds Of Millions In "Contingency Fees" As A Trial Lawyer
Edwards Was Against Paying His "Fair Share" In Taxes

Edwards Was For Buying A NC Senate Seat
Edwards Was Against Earning A NC Sentate Seat

Edwards Is For Indulging Himself With An 28,000 Sq. Ft. Home
Edwards Is Against Building Homes For Others, Like Jimmy Carter Does With Habitat For Humanity

Edwards Is For $400 Haircuts For Himself
Edwards Is Against $20 Haircuts For Himself, But Not For Everyone Else

Edwards Is For Speaking On Behalf Of Jesus On The Topic Of Iraq
Edwards Is Against Speaking On Behalf Of Jesus On The Topic Of Abortion, Or Living Humbly

Edwards Is For Cutting In Line At Walmart To Demand Special Treatment In Getting A Playstation
Edwards Is Against: WalMart

Edwards Is For Parading Out His Poor Sick Wife As A Political Prop
Edwards Is Against: Dignity

[PapaBear]

I remember when Republicans thought it was OK for people to be filthy stinking rich.

[Kevin]

I remember when Republicans thought it was OK for people to be filthy stinking rich.

Republicans like money...





















WHA WHA WHA WHAAAAAAAAAAAT???

[Judge Smails]

Edwards is pretty (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q)

[PapaBear]

Edwards is pretty (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2AE847UXu3Q)
I thought that chick was going to go down on him.

[Thomas Merton]

Ann Coulter pretty much sums up my feelings about pretty boy. God, I must have her. Smart, opionated, angry and so needy...

[high fly]

I remember when Republicans thought it was OK for people to be filthy stinking rich.


Yes, and they will only discuss the major cases Edwards worked on as a lawyer in the most vague of generalities.

For example, in one of them a swimming pool manufacturer knew of a defect a little piece of plastic costing a few bucks would fix. They knowingly put a faulty product on the market which sucked the bowel and intestines out of a little girl who will have to be fed intravenously the rest of her life.

They also won't address the fact that these cases took place in a very conservative state and the cases were presided over by very conservative judges with no history of giving massive liability awards.
Edwards worked in an arena where the deck was stacked against him and won the cases fair and square on their merits.

[PapaBear]

I don't know much about Edwards, but the kind of attacks that the Republicans use against him and other Dems can be pretty petty and hypocrtical at times. Dems criticize the Republicans on issues, and Reps criticize the Dems on haircuts, heating bills, big houses, etc...

I'm not saying the Dems don't do the same thing at times, but the Reps tend to be much worse. In the end, it's all a bunch of bullshit.

[high fly]

They expect to be taken seriously when they get the vapors at the discovery that a multimillionaire has a large house.

[patsopinion]

really... hes the only dem i quasi support
but if its Mccain/ Guliani the dems can go fuck themselfs

[Midkiff]

Fat_Sunny, I like you, but this is the kind of shit you put out there that makes me vomit.




And I don't even like Edwards, by the way.

[epo]

Ann Coulter pretty much sums up my feelings about pretty boy. God, I must have her. Smart, opionated, angry and so needy...

What are you gonna do when she whips out that cock of hers?

[Dudeman]

Edwards Is For $400 Haircuts For Himself
Edwards Is Against $20 Haircuts For Himself, But Not For Everyone Else

Edwards Is For Cutting In Line At Walmart To Demand Special Treatment In Getting A Playstation
Edwards Is Against: WalMart


this is so typical of republican these days. they are all about slogans and making caricatures of democrats because their leadership has been massively incompetent and corupt. but thats okay because rove et al. know that there are a lot of stupid people out there who only can only make decisions and vote based on simple stupid slogans rather than the details of foreign policy, women's health, environmental science, justice department policies, etc.

[Fat_Sunny]

Um, To Anyone With Their Undies In A Bundle, This Was A Little Parody Of High Fly's Cut And Paste Bush Bash.

Fat Thinks Bush Is A Doofus. Not Dishonest, Not Unethical, But Feckless And An Embarrassingly Bad Public Speaker. Just A Plain Old Goofy, Dopey Doofus.

He Equally Thinks That John Edwards Has A Huge Moral Blind Spot, And Is Incredibly Self-Indulgent And Vain.

Just Callen 'Em As He Sees 'Em!

[Furtherman]

Ann Coulter pretty much sums up my feelings about pretty boy. God, I must have her. Smart, opionated, angry and so needy...

When you say "must have her", do you mean hit her in the face with a shovel? Because I'd be right there with you.

[Freakshow]

I don't know much about Edwards, but the kind of attacks that the Republicans use against him and other Dems can be pretty petty and hypocrtical at times. Dems criticize the Republicans on issues, and Reps criticize the Dems on haircuts, heating bills, big houses, etc...

I'm not saying the Dems don't do the same thing at times, but the Reps tend to be much worse. In the end, it's all a bunch of bullshit.

Yes. Cause being conservative in this country doesn't automatically get you labeled a: racist nazi, a crazy extremist christian, a gun nut, hayseed redneck, warmongering chickenhawk, etc...

If you think one side does it more than the other you really aren't paying attention.

[Snacks]

Um, To Anyone With Their Undies In A Bundle, This Was A Little Parody Of High Fly's Cut And Paste Bush Bash.

Fat Thinks Bush Is A Doofus. Not Dishonest, Not Unethical, But Feckless And An Embarrassingly Bad Public Speaker. Just A Plain Old Goofy, Dopey Doofus.

He Equally Thinks That John Edwards Has A Huge Moral Blind Spot, And Is Incredibly Self-Indulgent And Vain.

Just Callen 'Em As He Sees 'Em!

Bush is not dishonest, not unethical??? He hasnt lied about why we went to Iraq multiple times? First they had something to do with 9/11. Then it was wmd's, next to create freedom in Iraq and now its to create stability in the region. What about ethics??? He continues to hire his friends that have no clue what they are doing rather then hire others that a re qualified.

Edwards was a lawyer who sued over medical malpractice in which peoples lives have been fucked forever. What should these people have done? Let me guess if it was Fat he would have taken it like a man and just dealt with it. Bullshit you would have sued DR's too if they fucked up while handling you. Dont hate Edwards b/c he actually helped someone win money from a shitty Dr.

By the way vanity isnt a crime. He may care about his looks but he doesnt care about others. He has stayed married to a women who isnt attractive at all. He has lost a child and he wants all people to have the same chances in America. Oh but hes rich and bought a big house so hes bad b/c he doesnt give all his money away.

[K.C.]

Ann Coulter pretty much sums up my feelings about pretty boy. God, I must have her. Smart, opionated, angry and so needy...

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

[badmonkey]

Bush is not dishonest, not unethical??? He hasnt lied about why we went to Iraq multiple times? First they had something to do with 9/11.

I keep hearing that Bush said that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, but I have never seen a single quote that proves it. Even Michael Moore didn't have an audio or video clip of it in F-9/11. I've always thought that surely if it existed, he would have found it. He's used pictures of newspapers in the past for his movies (See: bowling for columbine), why would he skip such a thing in F-9/11? Anybody got a source or cite for this? Just curious.

Badmonkey

[Dudeman]

I keep hearing that Bush said that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, but I have never seen a single quote that proves it. Even Michael Moore didn't have an audio or video clip of it in F-9/11. I've always thought that surely if it existed, he would have found it. He's used pictures of newspapers in the past for his movies (See: bowling for columbine), why would he skip such a thing in F-9/11? Anybody got a source or cite for this? Just curious.

Badmonkey

the de facto preseident cheney, in a infamous appearance on meet the press said:

"We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of ’93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven.

Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack"

he did say he wasnt sure if it was true, but most intelligence officers at the time knew it wasn't, but cheney continued to float it out there.

[Bob Impact]

the de facto preseident cheney, in a infamous appearance on meet the press said:

"We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of ’93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven.

Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack"

he did say he wasnt sure if it was true, but most intelligence officers at the time knew it wasn't, but cheney continued to float it out there.

You're right, that's exactly the same thing as President Bush explicitly stating "Iraq was connected with 9/11."

[Midkiff]

that's right godammit

[Dudeman]

You're right, that's exactly the same thing as President Bush explicitly stating "Iraq was connected with 9/11."

it was enough to get the dumb fucking retards that voted for these idiots to believe it- and thats unfortunately was all rove needed.

[Bob Impact]

it was enough to get the dumb fucking retards that voted for these idiots to believe it- and thats unfortunately was all rove needed.

I voted for Bush, am I a dumb fucking retard?

[Thomas Merton]

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Please...if Britney Spears is hot due to her craziness, Coulter is off the charts wildcat. All that anger and intelligence, if properly channeled after a hard day's work and a few glasses of merlot could produce fantastic, homophobic sexplay.

Crazy blondes gentlemen, are the stuff of strippers and hot pundits

[PapaBear]

Yes. Cause being conservative in this country doesn't automatically get you labeled a: racist nazi, a crazy extremist christian, a gun nut, hayseed redneck, warmongering chickenhawk, etc...

If you think one side does it more than the other you really aren't paying attention.
You must be reading those comments in some pretty far out papers, because I've never seen any left leaning commentators calling all conservatives those things. But I see right leaning commentators bitching about mansions and haircuts all over the place.

[Snacks]

I voted for Bush, am I a dumb fucking retard?

If you voted for him twice or in 2004 then to answer your question, YES

[Bob Impact]

If you voted for him twice or in 2004 then to answer your question, YES

I actually did vote for him in 2000 but not in '04 (I'm not a masochist), I just wanted to see if anyone would back that statement. Shoulda guessed Snacks would. :bye:

[PapaBear]

I actually did vote for him in 2000 but not in '04 (I'm not a masochist), I just wanted to see if anyone would back that statement. Shoulda guessed Snacks would. :bye:
I don't think you're a fucking retard, but I'll call you one if it turns you on. I always aim to please.

[Bob Impact]

I don't think you're a fucking retard, but I'll call you one if it turns you on. I always aim to please.

You've always been a sweetheart.

[Snacks]

I actually did vote for him in 2000 but not in '04 (I'm not a masochist), I just wanted to see if anyone would back that statement. Shoulda guessed Snacks would. :bye:

Of course I would. I think voting for him in 2000 was someones choice, you cant expect everyone to vote Dem. But everyone I know including my brother and my mother were retarded for voting for him again in 2004. By then everyone knew his track record and what he was doing and how much of a moron he was. For hom to be re-elected in 2004 was just worng. You cant give this guy a 2nd term.

[badmonkey]

I voted for Bush in '04. Surely you didn't expect me to vote for Kerry. He never gave me a reason to. Hell, he didn't even give me a reason to vote against him. It wasn't the swift boat guys, it wasn't the flip flopping, it wasnt any of that. "Look at me! I'm not George W. Bush" wasn't a strong enough platform to get my vote.

Badmonkey

[Yerdaddy]

I voted for Bush in '04. Surely you didn't expect me to vote for Kerry. He never gave me a reason to. Hell, he didn't even give me a reason to vote against him. It wasn't the swift boat guys, it wasn't the flip flopping, it wasnt any of that. "Look at me! I'm not George W. Bush" wasn't a strong enough platform to get my vote.

Badmonkey

That's a cop-out. He had a plan for Iraq in short and long forms on his website, as well as his plans for other issues; there were tons of websites describing his voting history as a Senator; and in the debates he gave real answers about Iraq - what was going wrong and what needed to be done - while Bush repeated "Don't forget Poland" and "It's hard work" about three dozen times. If nothing else, on the main issue that has finally caused Republicans to throw Bush out of the boat, Iraq, Kerry showed himself in that campaign season to know what was going on in Iraq while Bush said nothing substantial to the American people about what was happening in Iraq except to say it was hard work but things were going swimmingly. If you couldn't tell at that time that Kerry would be better at fixing the problems in Iraq at that time then you weren't interested in knowing if Kerry would be better at fixing the problems in Iraq.

[high fly]

Um, To Anyone With Their Undies In A Bundle, This Was A Little Parody Of High Fly's Cut And Paste Bush Bash.



If it was any good, you wouldn't have to explain.
Dopiness like this, plus the adolescent act is why I pretty much ignore you.

[Midkiff]

"Look at me! I'm not George W. Bush" wasn't a strong enough platform to get my vote.

Sounds like more than ample qualification to me!!!

[Fat_Sunny]

If it was any good, you wouldn't have to explain.
Dopiness like this, plus the adolescent act is why I pretty much ignore you.

Yeah, Fat Likes How You Ignore Him.

High Fly: "I Will Never Respond To You Again! Ever".

And Yet Time And Again, Here You Are. Just Can't Resist, Can You?

[Dudeman]

I voted for Bush in '04. Surely you didn't expect me to vote for Kerry. He never gave me a reason to. Hell, he didn't even give me a reason to vote against him. It wasn't the swift boat guys, it wasn't the flip flopping, it wasnt any of that. "Look at me! I'm not George W. Bush" wasn't a strong enough platform to get my vote.

Badmonkey

that's what rove told you to say.

kerry had plans for foreign policy, health care, the environment (which the W was still blowing off in 2004 because it would hurt his business friends), etc.

[BLZBUBBA]

Kerry? Didn't vote for him. He never seemed "all in". And I'll be damned if he didn't have a shitload of money left over AFTER the race. And not all his wife's either...A few ( a really few) bucks were mine. If it had been close in my state I'd have voted for him. But voting in THE red state, Kerry lagging 30 points behind, I voted third party. And why did I throw a few bucks at Kerry? Try living in Texas and listening to these people. Bush is STILL their daddy. STILL see the stupid "W" bumperstickers all over the place.

Edwards? Of the politicians, I'd say he's the best choice for Dems. I hear words like "pretty-boy" and "faggot" from Ann Coulter (gotta sell the books) and oh yeah...he is rich. Rich? Hmmmm. Didn't inherit it. Wasn't born into it. I guess he earned it through the legal system? Okay. I'll give you that. He worked within that system to the benefit of his NOT wealthy clients and himself. And?
He's a lawyer and a damn good one. Knock him if you want. I congratulate him.

If you voted for Bush...How did he attempt to change that fucked up system? He made attempts to change it...in favor of insurance companies and other corporations. Gee. Correct me if I'm wrong but some of those hurricane victims are doing really well. The insurance companies are doing everything they can to get away with not paying legit claims. Do you want corporations deciding how much they should pay you when some product THEY manufacture mangles your kid? Oh yeah...If I'm at work and some accident occurs I want my employer to decide how much THEY should pay me. I think I'd prefer a jury to decide. And I'd want a brilliant lawyer like Edwards representing me in the case.

Republicans say lawsuits are the sole reason for health care costs going up? BULLSHIT BULLSHIT...BULL FUCKING SHIT! They're a part, a small part of the rise. Estimates show they result in about 2% of the annual 10% (approx.) rise in costs.
You can't get a track record on Doctors before you go in. They protect their own much like the Catholics were protecting pedophile priests. Their track records are confidential. If a Doctor shows up drunk for surgery, your surgery, and cuts you in half? Yeah. Let's make sure he doesn't have to pay more that $200 thousand. Some more of Bush's bullshit.

If you really want to get into this lawsuit thing? Maybe you would want to look at Republicans.
Bush, Tom Delay, Santorum? All were against lawsuits for the average person when they face a situation, but had no problems with lawsuits when THEIR families had a chance to benefit from suing. I mean. If you really want to look at hypocrites....Let's look at those cases.

I was watching some C-span during the '04 election. Edwards made an appearance at some backwoods restaurant. He walked in and went straight to the kitchen to shake all the cooks and waitresses and busboys hands first while the party and money people waited in the dining room. Maybe it was merely an effort to gain favor with the working class. He had to know the cameras were on him. But it was smart. Smart? That's what I'm looking for in a candidate. And at least he did acknowledge those working for a living.

Edwards? He was born of modest means. He didn't inherit his fortune. He earned his millions through the system. That's the American dream.
So don't attack Edwards if you only dream of Ann Coulter and her adam's apple.

[badmonkey]

Not a cop out, not what Bush told me to say. I did a show one night and took unscreened calls for about an hour trying to give away a "Re-Defeat Bush" umbrella left over from the Hideout. Not one person that called me was voting FOR Kerry. They were all voting against Bush. All they had to do to win the umbrella was tell me why they were voting FOR Kerry rather than AGAINST Bush. This was the week before the election.

I watched the debates and listened to what he was saying and I disagreed with Kerry more than I disagreed with Bush so Bush got my vote. I thought that's how it was supposed to work. You can think for yourself and still vote republican. If you can't, then maybe you're the one that's brainwashed.

Badmonkey

[Yerdaddy]

Not a cop out, not what Bush told me to say. I did a show one night and took unscreened calls for about an hour trying to give away a "Re-Defeat Bush" umbrella left over from the Hideout. Not one person that called me was voting FOR Kerry. They were all voting against Bush. All they had to do to win the umbrella was tell me why they were voting FOR Kerry rather than AGAINST Bush. This was the week before the election.

I watched the debates and listened to what he was saying and I disagreed with Kerry more than I disagreed with Bush so Bush got my vote. I thought that's how it was supposed to work. You can think for yourself and still vote republican. If you can't, then maybe you're the one that's brainwashed.

Badmonkey

I didn't say you were brainwashed. I said your reasoning is a cop out. He gave you plenty of reasons he was running other than not being Bush, you didn't care. You wanted Bush - you voted for Bush. That's fine. Your listeners were voting against Bush. Good. He was losing three wars at the time and I happen to think it's smart to vote against a president who's losing three wars. But Kerry had plenty of substance. It's not his fault you weren't interested in it. Sometimes it's voters who suck more than candidates.

[high fly]

Besides losing 3 wars, Bush has managed to do so much for Iran I wouldn't be surprised if they renamed the airport in Tehran after Bush.

And I'm waiting to hear from any of the right-wingers how they will pay back the $2 trillion+ in red ink they have graciously given the American people since Bush got in office.
The interest on the loans to cover that $ 2 trillion+ are increasing faster than the economy is growing.

And don't forget the party of bankers and bookkeepers started out with a massive surplus.

[badmonkey]

I didn't say you were brainwashed. I said your reasoning is a cop out. He gave you plenty of reasons he was running other than not being Bush, you didn't care. You wanted Bush - you voted for Bush. That's fine. Your listeners were voting against Bush. Good. He was losing three wars at the time and I happen to think it's smart to vote against a president who's losing three wars. But Kerry had plenty of substance. It's not his fault you weren't interested in it. Sometimes it's voters who suck more than candidates.

I was interested. He marketed himself poorly. I didn't see any solid positions on his website when I looked and in either an interview or a debate (can't remember which now), he said he wasn't going to "show his hand". Almost every statement he made on both his website and in debates/interviews was about how Bush fucked it up, but not about how he planned to fix it. You would think that a debates and interviews would be the place to "show his hand". You would think that running for president would be all about showing your hand. I was interested in his positions, but he wasn't interested in giving them. For such a strong leader, he sure has been quiet since he lost the election.

Badmonkey

[epo]

I was interested. He marketed himself poorly. I didn't see any solid positions on his website when I looked and in either an interview or a debate (can't remember which now), he said he wasn't going to "show his hand". Almost every statement he made on both his website and in debates/interviews was about how Bush fucked it up, but not about how he planned to fix it. You would think that a debates and interviews would be the place to "show his hand". You would think that running for president would be all about showing your hand. I was interested in his positions, but he wasn't interested in giving them. For such a strong leader, he sure has been quiet since he lost the election.

Badmonkey

I'm not the greatest Kerry supporter ever, but you are lacking some details in your response. Thru the magic of the internet, here is John Kerry's website on November 2, 2004. Rarely does Kerry (once in the right lower corner of the home page) mention Bush, but his policy ideas are all laid out for you.

Link to site here. (http://web.archive.org/web/20041031022518/www.johnkerry.com/index.html)

So either you are full of shit or you are misunderestimating Kerry's site. I'll assume the latter.

[BLZBUBBA]

Here's why I would've voted for Kerry had it been close enough in my state to warrant it. He wanted more money for finding "loose nukes" and to help Russia dismantle their arsenal. Basically more cash for keeping an eye on nukes.
Let's face it. When terrorists get their hands on one it's going to be a whole different ballgame. And Iraq didn't have any. They didn't even have a program. As far as I can tell Bush and Company are the only ones thinking they did. Unless they just said that to sell the war.

[badmonkey]

I'm not the greatest Kerry supporter ever, but you are lacking some details in your response. Thru the magic of the internet, here is John Kerry's website on November 2, 2004. Rarely does Kerry (once in the right lower corner of the home page) mention Bush, but his policy ideas are all laid out for you.

Link to site here. (http://web.archive.org/web/20041031022518/www.johnkerry.com/index.html)

So either you are full of shit or you are misunderestimating Kerry's site. I'll assume the latter.

I suppose these count?

Launch And Lead A New Era Of Alliances
The threat of terrorism demands alliances on a global scale - to utilize every available resource to get the terrorists before they can strike at us. As president, John Kerry will lead a coalition of the able - because no force on earth is more able than the United States and its allies.


Modernize The World's Most Powerful Military To Meet New Threats
John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to transform the world's most powerful military to better address the modern threats of terrorism and proliferation, while ensuring that we have enough properly trained and equipped troops to meet our enduring strategic and regional missions.


Deploy All That Is In America's Arsenal
The war on terror cannot be won by military might alone. As president, John Kerry will deploy all the forces in America's arsenal - our diplomacy, our intelligence system, our economic power, and the appeal of our values and ideas - to make America more secure and prevent a new generation of terrorists from emerging.


Free America From Its Dangerous Dependence On Mideast Oil
To secure our full independence and freedom, we must free America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil. By tapping American ingenuity, we can achieve that goal while growing our economy and protecting our environment

Yeah... I read all that. It says nothing.

Badmonkey

[epo]

Launch And Lead A New Era Of Alliances
The threat of terrorism demands alliances on a global scale - to utilize every available resource to get the terrorists before they can strike at us. As president, John Kerry will lead a coalition of the able - because no force on earth is more able than the United States and its allies.


Modernize The World's Most Powerful Military To Meet New Threats
John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to transform the world's most powerful military to better address the modern threats of terrorism and proliferation, while ensuring that we have enough properly trained and equipped troops to meet our enduring strategic and regional missions.


Deploy All That Is In America's Arsenal
The war on terror cannot be won by military might alone. As president, John Kerry will deploy all the forces in America's arsenal - our diplomacy, our intelligence system, our economic power, and the appeal of our values and ideas - to make America more secure and prevent a new generation of terrorists from emerging.


Free America From Its Dangerous Dependence On Mideast Oil
To secure our full independence and freedom, we must free America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil. By tapping American ingenuity, we can achieve that goal while growing our economy and protecting our environment

Each of those issues were quite obvious when you drew the website/debates together:

New Alliances: Kerry consistently talked of the need for a real coalition which included other countries from the Middle East who understood the cultural & historical issues which we did not understand.

Modernize: Kerry wrote a fucking book in 1998 (http://www.amazon.com/New-War-Threatens-Americas-Security/dp/0684846144/ref=sr_1_12/102-1180933-9139302?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178340032&sr=1-12)that talks about global terror organizations that threaten our nation.

Deploy our forces: Kerry consistently spoke about having a goddamned plan.

Free us from Mideast Oil: This is a point that everyone on the fucking planet except G.W. Bush has made.

My point is this: The information was there. If you voted for Bush, fine you did it. Accept the responsibility, but don't blame Kerry. Sure John wasn't the greatest candidate ever, but he was a solid candidate (albeit boring) who was very qualified for the job.

[high fly]

I suppose these count?



Yeah... I read all that. It says nothing.

Badmonkey


Actually, it says much when we look at what Bush has done.

"Launch And Lead A New Era Of Alliances"
Bush has destroyed the near universal sympathy and support we had from nations around the globe after 9/11. The last remnants of the "Coalition of the Willing" are crumbling.
Countries with better human intelligence than we have in the Middle East and South Asia have been alienated and out director of national intelligence has complained about the lack of cooperation.
It is vital to our national interest that we have cooperation and support from these countries.

"Modernize The World's Most Powerful Military To Meet New Threats"
Despite hundreds of billions in Defense Department budget increases under Bush for a military that is about the same size as when he took office, we sent troops to war in Iraq without the most basic equipment, including proper boots,body armor and goggles.
A few months ago the Washington Post had an article that said over 4,000 vehicles bound for Iraq were lacking up-armor kits and if it wasn't for charity drives, soldiers coming back wounded wouldn't have socks and underwear for Pete's sake!
I recall a photo from last fall of over 500 tanks in one repair depot alone that had not been repaired from damage sustained in Iraq.
Iraq is sapping our military and wearing it out so we are unable to replenish units nor do we have much to meet real threats elsewhere.

"Deploy All That Is In America's Arsenal"
Again, Bush's foreign policy has isolated us from allies with resources we do not have and desperately need to fight terrorism.
The end resultis to tie one hand behind our back while strengthening our enemies and giving them encouragement.

"Free America From Its Dangerous Dependence On Mideast Oil"
It was our policies and actions in the Middle east, ostensibly to protect our fuel supply that gave rise to al Qaeda in the first place. They object to our troops on Muslim holy land, our trade policies they feel rob them of their oil wealth, our support of oppressive regimes all fuel the terrorism fire.
We must get off Mideast oil.

[Snacks]

yerdaddy, epo, your not going to convince badmonkey so stop trying. The same way BM is fighting you on how Kerry didnt sell his issues even though you have proven he did just shows that he didnt care to listen in 2004. Every person that watched the 3 debates said Kerry kicked Bush's ass in atleast 2 of them and the 3rd was pretty even. Kerry's problem was he tried to play nice. Rove, the swift boats, the heinz haters and so many others attacked Kerry and Kerry didnt do it back. He should have, he should have went after Bush and beat his ass down with everything he could. At the end of the day, Bush was re-elected b/c people just didnt care.

I didnt love Kerry either. I dont think he was the best choice for the democratic party to nominate. But anything was better then to re-elect Bush. thats just a fact. The bad thing is, if a dem wins in 08 he/she will have so much to fix. From healthcare, taxes, the war, the deficit, the way we are viewed by the world, the budget, paying for the war (not included in the budget or deficit) Helping middle class- poor class to recover from losing ground. The enviroment, gas prices, future power there is so much to fix that in may actually make the dems look very bad. Rove has covered everything with a band-aid that is about to fall off and the winner of 2008 is going to have an infected wound for the country to see.

[Yerdaddy]

I suppose these count?



Yeah... I read all that. It says nothing.

Badmonkey

I just went to the site and it's got all the detailed policy papers they put out in '04. You're just being a dick now. No koolaid for you!

[badmonkey]

I just went to the site and it's got all the detailed policy papers they put out in '04. You're just being a dick now. No koolaid for you!

I'm being a dick? Why should I have to go to his website and look for stuff when I'm watching all the debates and a lot of his interviews? I didn't see the policy papers when I went to his website in '04. I still don't see any details on the archive of his website today. It's nice to say in a broad general statement that you're going to do something, but I want to know a few details on HOW you're going to do it. When you're responses about the details are crap like "I'm not going to show my hand", it just sounds like rhetoric that can't be backed up. I had 4 years of Bush so I already had an idea of how he stood on the issues that were most important to me. If Kerry had given me any real information, he might have gotten my vote. I think Snacks is definately right about one thing tho. Kerry was not the best candidate for the Dems in '04 and I don't think he has a chance for the nomination in '08. Bush won the popular vote in '04 as well as the electoral college but it was a close election. If it had been Lieberman rather than Kerry, I think we would have a new president. I probably would have voted for Lieberman.

Badmonkey

[TooLowBrow]

I probably would have voted for Lieberman.

Badmonkey

EEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!

[Yerdaddy]

I'm being a dick? Why should I have to go to his website and look for stuff when I'm watching all the debates and a lot of his interviews? I didn't see the policy papers when I went to his website in '04. I still don't see any details on the archive of his website today. It's nice to say in a broad general statement that you're going to do something, but I want to know a few details on HOW you're going to do it. When you're responses about the details are crap like "I'm not going to show my hand", it just sounds like rhetoric that can't be backed up. I had 4 years of Bush so I already had an idea of how he stood on the issues that were most important to me. If Kerry had given me any real information, he might have gotten my vote. I think Snacks is definately right about one thing tho. Kerry was not the best candidate for the Dems in '04 and I don't think he has a chance for the nomination in '08. Bush won the popular vote in '04 as well as the electoral college but it was a close election. If it had been Lieberman rather than Kerry, I think we would have a new president. I probably would have voted for Lieberman.

Badmonkey

You're a strange person to argue with. You have great spelling and grammar, you write clearly and concisely, you don't capitalize every word or refer to yourself in the third person, and yet what you say makes no sense whatsoever. It is usually in complete contrast with reality. It's like the colorized negative image used in Sin City when the samurai chick swam into the tar pits to save the guy, or when Bruce Willis shoots himself in the head. I have to tell you I don't think I've ever actually got mad at you. You're just too unique.

[Fat_Sunny]

Fat Wanted To Start A New Thread On This New Ditty, But He Was Afraid That The Always-Itchy Yerdaddy Would Yell At Him, So He Is Resurrecting This Already-Existing Thread.

Well Well Well, Beauty-Boy John Edwards Is At It Again. It Seems He Has Spent The Last Year "Learning About Poverty" By Working For A HEDGE FUND At A Yet-To-Be-Disclosed-Salary. Here Is The Link:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P0DMAG1&show_article=1&catnum=3

Fat Will Tell You AGAIN That This Guy Is The Phoniest, Most Fraudulent, Hypocritical, Smarmy Cancer-Ridden-Wife-Advantage-Taker That Has Ever Walked The Earth.

The Clintons Make F_S Gag, But He Will Say This Here And Now And One Time And One Time Only: Fat_Sunny Would Sooner Sit In A Beauty Salon And Weave Hillary Clinton's Pubes Into Corn-Rolls While Sucking Bill Clinton's Hideous Reyes Syndrome Backward-Curved Dick Than To Ever, EVER Vote For The Phony Fraud John Edwards!!!!

[TheMojoPin]

Fat Wanted To Start A New Thread On This New Ditty, But He Was Afraid That The Always-Itchy Yerdaddy Would Yell At Him, So He Is Resurrecting This Already-Existing Thread.

Don't worry about Yerdaddy...as your friendly neighborhood forum mod, I'm here to tell you that our policies on excessive duplicate threads are nothing new, and your swipe at Yerdaddy was totally unecessary. If you wanted to start a new thread over this specific story, great, go for it. But if you wanted to just start another thread against Edwwards in general without it being over a specific story, it's likely going to be merged with a pre-existing thread. We're just trying to keep the clutter to a dull war. TheMojoPin appreciates your cooperation.

[Yerdaddy]

Don't worry about Yerdaddy...as your friendly neighborhood forum mod, I'm here to tell you that our policies on excessive duplicate threads are nothing new, and your swipe at Yerdaddy was totally unecessary. If you wanted to start a new thread over this specific story, great, go for it. But if you wanted to just start another thread against Edwwards in general without it being over a specific story, it's likely going to be merged with a pre-existing thread. We're just trying to keep the clutter to a dull war. TheMojoPin appreciates your cooperation.

Actually Mojo, he's right. I'm back in Bangkok during a rainy season and you know better than anyone wth these fucking mosquitoes I'm the itchiest motherfucker on this board. Also it's hard to get your feelings hurt by someone talking smack in third person capitals. I find it adorable. Like the 8 year-old kid in my white trash neighborhood in Apache Junction, Az that I had to babysit once who did nothing but run around the house flipping me the bird and jacking off the whole night. It's not offensive until the drunk mom comes home and when you try to explain his behavior she shows you her hairy hatchet-wound through the leg of her terrycloth hot pants and asks you (at age 15) if you want to stick around and get drunk with her and... do whatever?

It's like that.

[A.J.]

It's not offensive until the drunk mom comes home and when you try to explain his behavior she shows you her hairy hatchet-wound through the leg of her terrycloth hot pants and asks you (at age 15) if you want to stick around and get drunk with her and... do whatever?

Where's this place again?

[scottinnj]

Edwards? Of the politicians, I'd say he's the best choice for Dems. I hear words like "pretty-boy" and "faggot" from Ann Coulter (gotta sell the books) and oh yeah...he is rich. Rich? Hmmmm. Didn't inherit it. Wasn't born into it. I guess he earned it through the legal system? Okay. I'll give you that. He worked within that system to the benefit of his NOT wealthy clients and himself. And?
He's a lawyer and a damn good one. Knock him if you want. I congratulate him.


I really can't disagree with you more. Even if Edwards gets the nomination, he'll never win the general election. No Chance. Not with all his supporters who are so wacky left, they threaten his campaign contributions whenever he appears on a conservative's program on the cable news channels. In order to keep the money coming in, he'll tow the liberal line, keep talking about the "two Americas" from the porch of his 34,000 square foot house and really turn off a lot of independent voters with that garbage.

You dems have got to get together and nominate Governor Bill Richardson. TOTALLY QUALIFIED! Has executive experience running New Mexico, has foreign policy experience as an envoy to Iraq, North Korea and as ambassador to the United Nations.

VOTE FOR THIS MAN! He won re-election in New Mexico by over 65% of the vote, which means he got a shitload of Republican voters. He'd get mine if you guys nominate him. Swear to God he would.

[Yerdaddy]

I really can't disagree with you more. Even if Edwards gets the nomination, he'll never win the general election. No Chance. Not with all his supporters who are so wacky left, they threaten his campaign contributions whenever he appears on a conservative's program on the cable news channels. In order to keep the money coming in, he'll tow the liberal line, keep talking about the "two Americas" from the porch of his 34,000 square foot house and really turn off a lot of independent voters with that garbage.

You dems have got to get together and nominate Governor Bill Richardson. TOTALLY QUALIFIED! Has executive experience running New Mexico, has foreign policy experience as an envoy to Iraq, North Korea and as ambassador to the United Nations.

VOTE FOR THIS MAN! He won re-election in New Mexico by over 65% of the vote, which means he got a shitload of Republican voters. He'd get mine if you guys nominate him. Swear to God he would.

He's probably the most qualified candidate, but he's got no shot. He's not particularly charismatic and he's not a party insider. He's a good choice for VP if an inexpereinced candidate gets the nomination - Obama or Edwards, but I don't see that happening either. Probably he'll get a variety of cabinet position offers. He'll be a part of any administration as a guy who can get shit done. But electoral politics is too stupid for a guy like Richardson. If qualifications were more important to us voters than hair then he'd be on the short list. As it is, he's lucky to beat Kucinich.

[TheMojoPin]

He's probably the most qualified candidate, but he's got no shot. He's not particularly charismatic and he's not a party insider. He's a good choice for VP if an inexpereinced candidate gets the nomination - Obama or Edwards, but I don't see that happening either. Probably he'll get a variety of cabinet position offers. He'll be a part of any administration as a guy who can get shit done. But electoral politics is too stupid for a guy like Richardson. If qualifications were more important to us voters than hair then he'd be on the short list. As it is, he's lucky to beat Kucinich.

Couldn't agree more with you guys about Richardson. In terms of qualifications, he's the man for the job, by far.

[A.J.]

I think I said somewhere before that I would not be unhappy if Richardson was elected President.

[Yerdaddy]

I think I said somewhere before that I would not be unhappy if Richardson was elected President.

You know, we libs were all set to elect Lieberman until you Republicans started saying you'd vote for him. We all love the little Elmer Fudd, but we can't tell you that now. For the love of god stop endorsing all of our good candidates!

[Dude!]

i wouldnt have voted for edwards this year but i did not hate him

but bill o'reilly did a segment on edwards tonight that was really severe

o'reilly laid out the history of the guy and it seems like he really was an evil dude
even before the current problem

[booster11373]

Fuck Fox news major goings on in Russia/Georgia, Middle East, Domestic Olympics you name it, and they spend there time focusing on a former senator, Journalism at its best truly serving the public good Fox news is

In the world of Tit for Tat didnt Newt Gingrich divorce his wife while she was dieing of cancer oh wait he is a Republican so that doesnt count

Its just stupid and has no value as news that needs to be covered around the clock

[booster11373]

One more thing

I let Fox speak for its self

Fox News Host Refuses To Talk About Russia-Georgia War, Insists On Covering Edwards’ Affair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to35KSemVbs&eurl=http://thinkprogress.org/

[Zorro]

One more thing

I let Fox speak for its self

Fox News Host Refuses To Talk About Russia-Georgia War, Insists On Covering Edwards’ Affair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to35KSemVbs&eurl=http://thinkprogress.org/

I understand that Fox bashing is all the rage, but apparently you have not been watching CNN or MSNBC...

[Midkiff]

If only we had seen the insight and wisdom of Fat_Sunny while he was still with us.

[mendyweiss]

If only we had seen the insight and wisdom of Fat_Sunny while he was still with us.

What Makes You Think He's Not ?

[Midkiff]

What Makes You Think He's Not ?

I see what you did there.... :lol:

I wish he were..... or the real person behind the character would come forward....

[AKA]

I understand that Fox bashing is all the rage, but apparently you have not been watching CNN or MSNBC...

Actually, from the fact that he was linking to a Fox News report he has actually been watching Fox News.

[Zorro]

Actually, from the fact that he was linking to a Fox News report he has actually been watching Fox News.

:smile:

[Drunky McBetidont]

If only we had seen the insight and wisdom of Fat_Sunny while he was still with us.

he thought this site was ron in fez, but alas he found out this wasn't a shriner site.

http://www.horowitzphoto.com/images/shriners%20duo.jpg

[Dude!]

wow...
apprently there is an
Edwards-Hunter sex tape

how could a politcian be
so stupid as to do that!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0129102rielle1.html

[SonOfSmeagol]

Maybe now those stubborn few will finally scrape that Kerry Edwards bumper sticker off.

You know who you are.

[A.J.]

Maybe now those stubborn few will finally scrape that Kerry Edwards bumper sticker off.

You know who you are.

Along with the "1-20-2009" stickers.

[Dudeman]

Maybe now those stubborn few will finally scrape that Kerry Edwards bumper sticker off.

You know who you are.

still better than a bush-cheney sticker....

[disneyspy]

or WOW,it never works on these cold january days up here in northern michigan

[SonOfSmeagol]

Gotta keep the WOW! There will always be warmer days ahead.

[Stankfoot]

well... he did hire her as his campaign "videographer"

[epo]

Bill Clinton really was his hero.....

[Dude!]

Edwards to be indicted!

pretty-boy will do just fine
in prison

who's your daddy!

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/grand_jury_indictment_john_edwards_hunter_coverup/celebrity/68250

[Bob Impact]

Edwards to be indicted!

pretty-boy will do just fine
in prison

who's your daddy!

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/grand_jury_indictment_john_edwards_hunter_coverup/celebrity/68250

nationalenquirer.com I'll believe it when theres a real source that doesn't just report the story as "The National Enquirer says"

[Dan 'Hampton]

They've been pretty spot on with this story.

[StanUpshaw]

They're the ones who broke it initially.

[Serpico1103]

They're the ones who broke it initially.

Drudge and National Enquirer the shining lights of journalism.
Sad state of affairs.

[tanless1]

I like drudge, but you are correct, it is sad that we we are unable to trust the traditional press to fulfill their claimed obligation.