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Bulldogcakes
05-09-2007, 05:36 PM
Vegans Sentenced for Starving Their Baby (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P102RO0&show_article=1)
ATLANTA (AP) - A vegan couple were sentenced Wednesday to life in prison for the death of their malnourished 6-week-old baby boy, who was fed a diet largely consisting of soy milk and apple juice.
Superior Court Judge L.A. McConnell imposed the mandatory sentences on Jade Sanders, 27, and Lamont Thomas, 31. Their son, Crown Shakur, weighed just 3 1/2 pounds when he died of starvation on April 25, 2004.
The couple were found guilty May 2 of malice murder, felony murder, involuntary manslaughter and cruelty to children. A jury deliberated about seven hours before returning the guilty verdicts.
Defense lawyers said the first-time parents did the best they could while adhering to the lifestyle of vegans, who typically use no animal products. They said Sanders and Thomas did not realize the baby, who was born at home, was in danger until minutes before he died.
But prosecutors said the couple intentionally neglected their child and refused to take him to the doctor even as the baby's body wasted away.
"No matter how many times they want to say, 'We're vegans, we're vegetarians,' that's not the issue in this case," said prosecutor Chuck Boring. "The child died because he was not fed. Period."
lleeder
05-09-2007, 05:41 PM
This is fucking awful. How can you care more for a cow than you do for your own child? Feed that kid some milk and get over your own beliefs.
cupcakelove
05-09-2007, 05:42 PM
This is fucking awful. How can you care more for a cow than you do for your own child? Feed that kid some hamburger and get over your own beliefs.
http://www.handpen.com/Bio/fat_kid.jpg
Yeah what's their problem?
lleeder
05-09-2007, 05:45 PM
Who said hamburger? The kid is only 6 weeks
Bulldogcakes
05-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Wow. On the one hand, what they did was incredibly stupid. But a life sentence seems excessive, since I really doubt there was any intent or malice involved. Stupidity, but not malice.
DarkHippie
05-09-2007, 05:50 PM
Being a vegan is fine once your ody has developed, but it is dangerous for a child? just give the kid a fucking nipple!
lleeder
05-09-2007, 05:54 PM
Wow. On the one hand, what they did was incredibly stupid. But a life sentence seems excessive, since I really doubt there was any intent or malice involved. Stupidity, but not malice.
Maybe its a life sentance as long as the kids life? That would make it alot shorter.
Midkiff
05-09-2007, 05:54 PM
Wow. On the one hand, what they did was incredibly stupid. But a life sentence seems excessive, since I really doubt there was any intent or malice involved. Stupidity, but not malice.
FUCK that. Death penalty for both of them, I say.
Dad who starved baby complains about jail food
video (http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/law/2007/05/09/wxia.vegan.baby.affl)
johnniewalker
05-09-2007, 05:56 PM
How did baby crown end up with the shakur handle. I'm dying to know what angle they were going with that name.
lleeder
05-09-2007, 05:58 PM
How did baby crown end up with the shakur handle. I'm dying to know what angle they were going with that name.
Tupac Shakur, Westsiiiiiide!!!!
johnniewalker
05-09-2007, 06:00 PM
Wow. On the one hand, what they did was incredibly stupid. But a life sentence seems excessive, since I really doubt there was any intent or malice involved. Stupidity, but not malice.
Yeah that is absolutely insane. Its seems like there has to be more to the story. How the hell did they get felony murder? I guess cruelty to childeren is a felony? It's just insane how they got the charges stacked on them.
Badinia
05-09-2007, 06:02 PM
Re-reading the last sentence:
"No matter how many times they want to say, 'We're vegans, we're vegetarians,' that's not the issue in this case," said prosecutor Chuck Boring. "The child died because he was not fed. Period."
I don't know if a healthy baby can be raised on a vegan diet, I know that most babies are largely vegetarian, I know that a healthy baby can't be raised on nothing. Veganism is incidental, these folks are just regular old abusive parents. Who like patchouli oil.
Midkiff
05-09-2007, 06:07 PM
A baby MUST have mother's milk or baby formula. If not, they are not receiving proper nutrition. Every jug of soymilk I've ever bought says, "not suitable for baby formula," or something to that effect.
smiler grogan
05-09-2007, 06:08 PM
i didnt read the story but as a new dad I can tell you that there is a pretty big market for organic, vegan, baby food so not getting food to match there lifestyle is nonsense.
Midkiff
05-09-2007, 06:13 PM
i didnt read the story but as a new dad I can tell you that there is a pretty big market for organic, vegan, baby food so not getting food to match there lifestyle is nonsense.
Exactly. There is soy-based formula readily available.
AcolyteAndy
05-09-2007, 07:02 PM
Yes, neglicting your child's basic needs is child abuse and if they die, you can be charged with Murder.
JPMNICK
05-09-2007, 07:55 PM
Yes, neglicting your child's basic needs is child abuse and if they die, you can be charged with Murder.
I agree. a 6 week old needs some real fucking nutrition. this is horrible. why were they not giving this baby breast milk all the time?
PapaBear
05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm no expert on vegans. Are they saying that they couldn't be vegan and still give the baby breast milk? If so, that's insane. Do they go out and knock calves away from cows, when they feed? And yeah... the soy based formulas are fine. What the crap kind of soy product were they giving that child?
My oldest child got mostly breast milk, and also soy formula, and was super healthy. I have to think there's a good chance they really were trying to fuck this kid up. Though nerve racking at times, raising a healthy baby is really quite easy.
Wallower
05-09-2007, 08:12 PM
What a horrible story. Everyone knows you have to fatten a baby up before you can eat it.
I wonder if their lawyer Chuck Boring (perfect name for a movie critic, by the way) will be able to secure them Vegan meals in prison. I hope not.
MrPink
05-10-2007, 12:43 AM
See why I don't like a vegan!
cupcakelove
05-10-2007, 03:27 AM
I'm no expert on vegans. Are they saying that they couldn't be vegan and still give the baby breast milk? If so, that's insane. Do they go out and knock calves away from cows, when they feed? And yeah... the soy based formulas are fine. What the crap kind of soy product were they giving that child?
My oldest child got mostly breast milk, and also soy formula, and was super healthy. I have to think there's a good chance they really were trying to fuck this kid up. Though nerve racking at times, raising a healthy baby is really quite easy.
Feeding your child breast milk fits in with a vegan lifestyle. The article said the were mainly feeding the child soy milk, which as jdmidkiff pointed out, has 'not suitable for baby formula' written on the container.
PapaBear
05-10-2007, 03:42 AM
Feeding your child breast milk fits in with a vegan lifestyle. The article said the were mainly feeding the child soy milk, which as jdmidkiff pointed out, has 'not suitable for baby formula' written on the container.
I didn't see the soy MILK part. No... Soy MILK isn't good for babies. Soy FORMULA is, though. They were idiots.
Superior Court Judge L.A. McConnell imposed the mandatory sentences on Jade Sanders, 27, and Lamont Thomas, 31.
"Lamont, ya big dummy!"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/Redd_Foxx1.jpg/240px-Redd_Foxx1.jpg
furie
05-10-2007, 04:48 AM
are vegan's against breast feeding?
cupcakelove
05-10-2007, 04:49 AM
are vegan's against breast feeding?
No.
furie
05-10-2007, 05:07 AM
then why didn't she? She chose to stick to soy milk.
Justice4all
05-10-2007, 05:50 AM
I qoute Denis Leary: "Eating meat is an instinct, NOT eating meat is a decision"
At least wait until the kid is able to make his mind up on his own to not be or be a vegan.
cupcakelove
05-10-2007, 05:56 AM
I qoute Denis Leary: "Eating meat is an instinct, NOT eating meat is a decision"
At least wait until the kid is able to make his mind up on his own to not be or be a vegan.
They problem wasn't that the parent's were not feeding the kid meat, its that they were retarded. I don't know if giving a six week old baby some ham is the smart the thing to do. Its also a misconception that you have to eat meat as a child to be healthy, there are many societies in the world that never eat meat during any time of their lives, and they do just fine. They should have been at least giving the child breast milk.
WhistlePig
05-10-2007, 06:00 AM
It's hideous these people put their ideology before the health of their child and watched it waste away in front of their eyes! It was only 3 pounds when it died for christ's sake! I'm vegetarinan but I'm not forcing it on my kid. She can make up her own mind when she's older.
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