JV and Elvis Fired

[joeynox]

Update on JV & Elvis
- JV & Elvis are still suspended until further notice.
- Next week there will be guest hosts from 9AM-Noon.

Rumored host is DLR

All this because a prank phone call thatw as originally done 1 year ago. GG cbs

[torker]

what?

[epo]

So you expect that Ron & Fez fans are supposed to give one single shit about JV & Elvis?

You JV & Elvis fans have shit all over R&F at times with your fucking "Doghouse" calls and you now want mercy?

Fuck you.

[mdr55]

Damn Nips.

[joeynox]

1. Ive been listening to ron and fez since the dot com days.

2.So what if callers called up and said doghouse.O&A guys called the dh and other shows all the time.

3.You should care because if R7F say something that might offend someone then they could be next. The PC police are out and trying to turn america into the MOTHERLAND.This prank call was done 1 year ago and noone cared then but now because of nappy headed hos and the asian group everything is gonna be under attack.

[DarkHippie]

So you expect that Ron & Fez fans are supposed to give one single shit about JV & Elvis?

You JV & Elvis fans have shit all over R&F at times with your fucking "Doghouse" calls and you now want mercy?

Fuck you.

First they came for Imus, and I said nothing because Imus wasn't funny
Then they came for the Doghouse, and I said nothing because the Doghouse isn't funny
Then they came for Ron and Fez, and there was no one left to speak for teh funny

[TheMojoPin]

Where the hell is "the Motherland?"

[epo]

Where the hell is "the Motherland?"

Is it near big-titted MILF Land?

[cougarjake13]

Is it near big-titted MILF Land?

its about a block away

[King Hippos Bandaid]

we we we we boring

:king:

[Midkiff]

faggotry

[AnnoyedGrunt]

Where the hell is "the Motherland?"

I'm not sure. All I know is that we must never concede control of the motherland for it is… TOGETHER! THAT WE! PREVAIL!

[JPMNICK]

Where the hell is "the Motherland?"

i would guess england or canada

[TheMojoPin]

I'm not sure. All I know is that we must never concede control of the motherland for it is… TOGETHER! THAT WE! PREVAIL!

"VICTORY!!!!"

http://www.hbo.com/entourage/img/episodeguide/season02/ep17_drama_costume.jpg

[BabyLuvWhatley]

So you expect that Ron & Fez fans are supposed to give one single shit about JV & Elvis?

You JV & Elvis fans have shit all over R&F at times with your fucking "Doghouse" calls and you now want mercy?

Fuck you.


The 1 single shit I give is that with a FreeFM lineup shuffle perhaps R&F will move up to afternoon drive, and then somehow make it possible to brodacst the FM show on XM for us stuck in Wisconsin. Someday...

[PapaBear]

I don't care about them in particular, just as I didn't care about Imus. But it's a VERY bad trend. This shit needs to stop.

[waltermitty]

I've never listened to Jv and Elvis, Therefore I can't comment on the quality of the show...
But the fact that they are getting bumped off the air for a stupid bit is outrageous....
The recent attacks on talk radio are the latest hit against our ever eroding right of free speech..
Talk radio hosts are on the air to create a stir... no one would listen to or call a program that was always happy-go-lucky and safe... The job of a talk radio personality is to make us laugh, make us angry, to make us think.....
The firing of Imus, (and apparently JV and Elvis) is a travesty... Everyone on this board is a fan of free talk radio... Ron's jokes or views souldn't be censored...fez's views and joke's shouldn't be censored....The same goes for Imus, JV, and Elvis... I don't wan't the status quo... I don't want the same old crap... I want what america was built on... I want free speech, I want dissenting views....
I also want good comedy and entertainment!!!!

[Koof]

Protest Information

Date: MAY 12TH, 2007
time: 12 NOON
place: Union Square Park, NYC

Email: doghouserights@gmail.com

Meeting Place:
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FYI:
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[mikeyboy]

So you expect that Ron & Fez fans are supposed to give one single shit about JV & Elvis?

You JV & Elvis fans have shit all over R&F at times with your fucking "Doghouse" calls and you now want mercy?

Fuck you.


Ron & Fez fans should care. It's irrelevant whether you find a show funny or not. It's a disturbing as fuck trend that minority interest groups who likely don't normally listen to a radio show can dictate to a corporation who should and should not be on the air based on what said group finds offensive. Step out of the retarded radio war trenches.

[PapaBear]

Exactly. It's already had an obvious negative effect on Ron & Fez and other shows. Everyone is afraid to talk. It's even worse than the Janet Jackson debacle.

[TheMojoPin]

I fully endorse the crackdown on shitty radio.

OK, I'm kidding...kind of. Fight on, you crazy diamonds.

[ppanda]

It all revolves around losing sponsors. Negative publicicty from a minority group = loss of $$. A caller into Cabbie's show today had a good point. Why doesnt the "majority group" meaning the devoted listeners raise a stink and boycot the sponsors? The sponsors would lose more money that way than a complaint from a small minority group who doesnt even listen to the radio shows program.

[TheMojoPin]

It all revolves around losing sponsors. Negative publicicty from a minority group = loss of $$. A caller into Cabbie's show today had a good point. Why doesnt the "majority group" meaning the devoted listeners raise a stink and boycot the sponsors? The sponsors would lose more money that way than a complaint from a small minority group who doesnt even listen to the radio shows program.

*DING-DING-DING*

Noble as they are, petitions and rallies don't accomplish squat here. It's all about the moolah. Concerted and widespread public boycotts would really be the most effective tool here...of the stations owned by the companies, TV or radio, and all the sponsors that they have with those outlets.

[PapaBear]

Instead of petitions, maybe the people who really care about this, should start a list of every advertiser that threatens to pull out when this shit happens. Like Mojo said... concentrate the efforts on sending them the same sort of message that the whinny groups do.

The only problem with this concept is, the majority is never as vocal as the minority. When I say "minority", I don't mean actual minorities. I mean the idiots that get all bent out of shape by meaningless little shit comments that are made by radio hosts.

Remember the old slogan from the 80's... The Moral Majority is neither.

Shit like this will never end, if people don't use the same juvenile tactics that they do. I don't really have any faith in this working. Rational people, as a whole, just aren't willing to put the same amount of effort into anything as uptight crybabies are.

[TheMojoPin]

Rational people, as a whole, just aren't willing to put the same amount of effort into anything as uptight crybabies are.

Dude, seriously, getting someone fired over a radio bit may be an overreaction, but I fail to see how any it or how it was done was "irrational."

This kind of mindset is counter-productive. You may disagree with the results, but they didn't do anything wrong in the grand scheme of things. They used the same means available to people who want to organize counter-movements. That's not doing something weird or unusual or irrational.

[PapaBear]

Dude, seriously, getting someone fired over a radio bit may be an overreaction, but I fail to see how any it or how it was done was "irrational."

This kind of mindset is counter-productive. You may disagree with the results, but they didn't do anything wrong in the grand scheme of things. They used the same means available to people who want to organize counter-movements. That's not doing something weird or unusual or irrational.
My point is, it's irrational to try to get people fired for offending you. Yes... everyone else has the same means available, but the offended are the only people willing to put the necessary effort to achieve their goal.

Whenever someone like Imus or JV and Elvis (I think that's their names) gets fired, we hear all these calls for action from "PAC", or whatever. The fact is, the people who see something wrong with "the offended" getting someone fired, never put the same effort into deffending what they see as being right.

It's my opinion that "the offended" are irrational, but I'm actually accusing the "non offended" of not really caring enough to do what it takes to fix what they believe is wrong.

[ppanda]

. Rational people, as a whole, just aren't willing to put the same amount of effort into anything as uptight crybabies are.

actually papabear- this is the exact theme of the week. We meaning the listeners- tend to just accept and move on. Unfortunately the recent event are racially motivated and we know who the audience of said shows are (majority-white-male) There is a white-male guilt complex that prevents the audience from reacting as we/they will be branded as spreading racial intolerance. Yet we are thick skinned enough to put up with jokes about white sterotypes constantly. Im not trying to sound like the KKK but it seems that all races are starting to pull a race card and soon no stereotypes will be a topic of comedy....including the word cracker or honkey.
Like Ron said on tonights show- I know it was in jest but it may come to..."CBS says we can no longer use verbs"

[PapaBear]

I'm a day behind on the XM show, and have don't get to hear the FM show much, but that's pretty much what I figured. The "white guilt" issue is really what I think is the most to blame here. White Guilt is actually leads to racist thought. "White guilt" is actually white people thinking that minorities aren't intelligent enough to recognize the difference between stereotypes and racism. Stereotypes aren't necessarily wrong.

I just keep thinking about when the whole issue of "sports team names being offensive to aboriginal Americans" thing started heating up. I was living in Cherokee country in NC. All these white people were on TV complaining about the Redskins... I knew a LOT of Cherokee down there. They all loved the Redskins. Not a single one complained about the team name.

The only team name they ever stood up against was a high school team. The actual team mascot was something like "Indians" or "Warriors". I'm not exactly sure. Their problem was with what the school called the girls team. They called them the "Squaws". Squaw was a very offensive term. Most people weren't aware of it. When they were made aware, they changed the name. The Cherokee were happy... the whites were happy. Life moved on, and we all sat together to watch the Redskins lose on a weekly basis.

and I ramble... good day.

[thelyonhart]

The real issue now isnt the whiny complainers or white guilt or anything like that, its corporate interest. The people who complain are, and always have been, the most vocal. THats not irrational, if something pisses me off, i'm going to try and take it down. But once upon a time, when a radio station was just a radio station, they werent going to kick off a show that was getting good ratings, because of some complaints, because that was there bread and butter. But now, when a radio station is actually just a very low rung on a huge corporate ladder, no show, no matter how popular, is worth shit to them. Viacom doesnt give a fuck how much money JV and Elvis, or Opie and Anthony, or Ron and Fez make them, because it pales in comparison to almost any other avenue of there business. Radio to a corporationg is just there for a certain level of PR and modest streams of income. Thus, these corporations dont have the time to wait out protests and boycotts that may hurt thier core businesses, they will just send the offending shows packing without a second thought.

When Radio Stations were just Radio stations, They stood up for thier big shows, because that was what made them the money. Now that radio stations are corporate pawns, no matter how big the show, its a drop in the bucket to them, and they arent willing to risk that bucket being tipped over. The solution? get the radio stations back in the hands of the radio stations. How? Pretty much impossible at this point, unless Ronfez.net wants to take up a collection to get a FCC license and get to broadcast? Who's good with business???

[cougarjake13]

I'm a day behind on the XM show, and have don't get to hear the FM show much, but that's pretty much what I figured. The "white guilt" issue is really what I think is the most to blame here. White Guilt is actually leads to racist thought. "White guilt" is actually white people thinking that minorities aren't intelligent enough to recognize the difference between stereotypes and racism. Stereotypes aren't necessarily wrong.

I just keep thinking about when the whole issue of "sports team names being offensive to aboriginal Americans" thing started heating up. I was living in Cherokee country in NC. All these white people were on TV complaining about the Redskins... I knew a LOT of Cherokee down there. They all loved the Redskins. Not a single one complained about the team name.

The only team name they ever stood up against was a high school team. The actual team mascot was something like "Indians" or "Warriors". I'm not exactly sure. Their problem was with what the school called the girls team. They called them the "Squaws". Squaw was a very offensive term. Most people weren't aware of it. When they were made aware, they changed the name. The Cherokee were happy... the whites were happy. Life moved on, and we all sat together to watch the Redskins lose on a weekly basis.

and I ramble... good day.

well what about the st. johns redmen ???

ohh im sorry they were forced to change their name to the red storm

and i think the syracuse orangemen are now just the syracuse orange

a year or 2 ago they were trying to get the fla st seminoles to change their name and mascot but the school fought back and actually got consent from the tribe and the issue was dropped

[TheMojoPin]

well what about the st. johns redmen ???

ohh im sorry they were forced to change their name to the red storm

and i think the syracuse orangemen are now just the syracuse orange

a year or 2 ago they were trying to get the fla st seminoles to change their name and mascot but the school fought back and actually got consent from the tribe and the issue was dropped

While I think there's definitely a middle ground when it comes to these kind of names (the Braves, Seminoles, etc.), it shouldn't be surprising when people in certain groups object to names like the "Redmen" or the "Redskins." I mean, come on, that's not too hard to grasp as to why that would be offensive...hell, it boggles my mind that this is still an MLB logo in the 21st Century:

http://www.bearplugs.com/prodimg/hft-BHC408L.gif

I don't agree with the idea that anything Indian or Native American is offensive, but it is pretty easy to see why SOME of it is just ridiculous.

[cougarjake13]

While I think there's definitely a middle ground when it comes to these kind of names (the Braves, Seminoles, etc.), it shouldn't be surprising when people in certain groups object to names like the "Redmen" or the "Redskins." I mean, come on, that's not too hard to grasp as to why that would be offensive...hell, it boggles my mind that this is still an MLB logo in the 21st Century:

http://www.bearplugs.com/prodimg/hft-BHC408L.gif

I don't agree with the idea that anything Indian or Native American is offensive, but it is pretty easy to see why SOME of it is just ridiculous.

plus you have to look at it in context

we are using them as team names that people root for and love, there's no ill will, nothing rascist about, basically we are in a way honoring them

and most of the tribes have come out in defense for the teams so if they are ok with it then why is there still an issue ??

[mdr55]

How bout some foods?

Anyone find this offensive???

http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/crackerjacks.jpg

[TheMojoPin]

plus you have to look at it in context

we are using them as team names that people root for and love, there's no ill will, nothing rascist about, basically we are in a way honoring them

and most of the tribes have come out in defense for the teams so if they are ok with it then why is there still an issue ??

Because there is a line. I'm just sayng that enough people complain about something like the Indians' logo or the Redskins' name, it shouldn't be surprising. If most people are fine with it, hey, great, go for it. But, like I said, if enough people are bothered by it, please don't act surprised or hurt or shocked or whatever that a name like, say, "the Redskins" is going to really offend a lot of people.

While the overall context is positive, yes, they really do represent times in this country when we were, quite frankly, much more stupid and insensitive over racial issues. While I don't think still having them is the end of the world, it shouldn't be a huge deal if we ultimately end up showing that we have progressed socially.

[TheMojoPin]

How bout some foods?

Anyone find this offensive???

http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/crackerjacks.jpg

Boy, you sure showed us. "Cracker Jacks" are clearly named with the same intentions as something like "the Redskins." I guess I was just served.

[mdr55]

Maybe they can call it the Original Crunch and Munch or something.

[Tenbatsuzen]

according to Hannity and Colmes and on the Dentist's website, JV and Elvis are fired, but NOT backedup by the Toothy Tyrant yet.

[Bulldogcakes]

according to Hannity and Colmes and on the Dentist's website, JV and Elvis are fired, but NOT backedup by the Toothy Tyrant yet.

Once it went past 2 weeks, I kinda figured that.

I do like the "House of Wax" show with Larry Wax, but I think he was better in the 9-11pm slot.

[docgoblin]

according to Hannity and Colmes and on the Dentist's website, JV and Elvis are fired, but NOT backedup by the Toothy Tyrant yet.

I heard Hannity mention it last night as well. I haven't seen any confirmation though. They are still on the Free-FM website. Usually when the host(s) of a show get canned they pull every mention off them off the station's site.

[Death Metal Moe]

Once it went past 2 weeks, I kinda figured that.

I do like the "House of Wax" show with Larry Wax, but I think he was better in the 9-11pm slot.

If that douchebag gets a show over NEXT and/or CT & Jivin I'm never listening to Free FM again. Holy shit.

[mikeyboy]

If that douchebag gets a show over NEXT and/or CT & Jivin I'm never listening to Free FM again. Holy shit.

I'm guessing if that comes to fruition, you'll make an exception for 6-9 pm.

[sailor]

I'm guessing if that comes to fruition, you'll make an exception for 6-9 pm.

nah, he's going to do that whole "cutting off his nose to spite his face" thing.

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm guessing if that comes to fruition, you'll make an exception for 6-9 pm.

Dude. Let me have a few empty threats, OK?!

Of course the fucking scumbags GOT me from 6-9 for Ron and Fez. But it's only a matter of time before Ron and Fez say something that offends some other filthy savages with a couple hundred members and a fancy letterhad and they're off Free FM too.

Or course I'll listen and interact, but I'm not happy with the state of radio.

[Death Metal Moe]

nah, he's going to do that whole "cutting off his nose to spite his face" thing.

I've done that so much I have one of those Michael Jackson "Plastic Door Stop" noses now.

[docgoblin]

I've done that so much I have one of those Michael Jackson "Plastic Door Stop" noses now.

SEXY!

I haven't seen or heard confirmation of Hannity's report either. JV & Elvis are still featured on the FreeFM website as well. Usually when a show is taken off they remove all trace of them from the site immediately.

[sailor]

I've done that so much I have one of those Michael Jackson "Plastic Door Stop" noses now.

hahaha. so i tried to find an image of someone with a door stop for a nose, and this was on the first page of results. i don't get it, but it's better than anything i was hoping to find.

http://bigpinekey.com/Images_06/Aug/bumh00.jpg

[Death Metal Moe]

DAMN! Well, I guess we'll just have to stare at the blond girl's ass instead.

It's gonna be really hard, but I think we can get by.

[docgoblin]

hahaha. so i tried to find an image of someone with a door stop for a nose, and this was on the first page of results. i don't get it, but it's better than anything i was hoping to find.

http://bigpinekey.com/Images_06/Aug/bumh00.jpg

Something tells me that Moe's nose looks nothing like that

[sailor]

DAMN! Well, I guess we'll just have to stare at the blond girl's ass instead.

It's gonna be really hard, but I think we can get by.

the internets are funny things.

[Death Metal Moe]

Something tells me that Moe's nose looks nothing like that

If it did, I'd be sitting with my dick in my nose 24/7.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GUUUUUUUUSH!!! OOOOOOOH!!!!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think if JV and Elvis were model employees, they could have ridden the storm out, but with the personal problems of one of them, it might have something to do with it. Just speculation on my part, nothing more. You can't fire someone for having a drug problem without sending them to rehab, etc. first, but if they have personal issues and then there's something job related, then you can fire them.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Case in point: Ferrall after Sex for Sam. Sure, he might have slammed management on the air, but with some of the stories I heard about him at WNEW, it was just a matter of time.

[sailor]

I think if JV and Elvis were model employees, they could have ridden the storm out, but with the personal problems of one of them, it might have something to do with it. Just speculation on my part, nothing more. You can't fire someone for having a drug problem without sending them to rehab, etc. first, but if they have personal issues and then there's something job related, then you can fire them.

how were their ratings? was that part of it, perhaps?

[Tenbatsuzen]

how were their ratings? was that part of it, perhaps?

No worse than the rest of the station.

[J.Clints]

Asian slurs end shock jocks' show on CBS

By LARRY McSHANE, Associated Press Writer 27 minutes ago

One month after CBS Radio fired radio host Don Imus, it has permanently pulled the plug on a pair of suspended New York shock jocks for a prank phone call rife with offensive Asian stereotypes.

"The Dog House with JV and Elvis," hosted by Jeff Vandergrift and Dan Lay, "will no longer be broadcast," CBS Radio spokeswoman Karen Mateo said Saturday.

The cancellation of the show on WFNY-FM, nearly three weeks after the hosts were suspended, was another indication of the increased scrutiny on radio hosts and the heightened management sensitivity to complaints in the wake of the Imus firing.

CBS Radio dismissed Imus in April for his racist and sexist remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

Vandergrift and Lay broadcast a call to a Chinese restaurant in which the caller, in an exaggerated accent, placed an order for "shrimp flied lice," claimed he was a student of kung fu, and compared menu items to employees' body parts.

The initial airing of the call went unnoticed, but a rebroadcast after Imus's firing prompted an outcry from Asian-American groups. Vandergrift and Lay were initially suspended without pay, but Asian-Americans quickly demanded the same penalty applied to the much higher-profile Imus.

"This is a victory not only for the Asian-American community, but for all communities who find themselves constant targets of racist and sexist programming," said Jeanette Wang, an executive with the Organization of Chinese Americans.

Mateo would not comment on the status of the DJs' contracts or whether they were still on the CBS payroll.

Imus plans a $120 million breach of contract suit against CBS Radio.

[johnniewalker]

I wonder why they suspended them and left their shit up on their website. This wasn't that big of a story either. Makes you really think they had no support of CBS at all.

[mdr55]

Dang! That just bites.


RIP Doghouse.



So when is the station going to change formats to top 40's music? That's safe isn't it?

[JimBeam]

I only started listening to them like a week before they got in trouble.
They weren't that bad and i wish I'd have heard more.

It really is crazy though.

If all of this is offensive shouldnt any corporation that records and distributes the " offensive " material be held accountable ?

So whatever company procuded and distributed, let's say the Jerky Boys cd's for example, be in trouble ?

Also shouldn't the stores that carried these records be in hot water ?

Why is it different ?

if audio material is offensive live why is it less offensive otherwise ?

And the thing that bothers me most, and I'm sure it's been covered a million times since the Imus thing, is that I dont like that people who arent even the intended audience, and who would never be the intended audience, get to have a say in what any other group listens to.

[J.Clints]

I have never liked the show but that is not the point. I hate that there fired over this stupid bull shit.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Fucking Do-Gooders Win Again, Whats next, being fined for Insults and Cursing in your own house. This is Bullshit

:king:

[J.Clints]

Fucking Do-Gooders Win Again, Whats next, being fined for Insults and Cursing in your own house. This is Bullshit

:king:

It would not surprise me if in public you get fined.

[HBox]

At this point you have to wonder why anyone would want to work for CBS radio. Anyone who signs with them from this point out has no excuse. They've proven they have negative loyalty.

[Don Stugots]

At this point you have to wonder why anyone would want to work for CBS radio. Anyone who signs with them from this point out has no excuse. They've proven they have negative loyalty.

Hbox, i feel the same way. A few weeks ago I was getting a demo CD ready to send to Good Ol' AL Dukes and right before I went into the Post Office that same thought hit me. I do not regret it.

[lleeder]

Fucking Do-Gooders Win Again, This is Bullshit

:king:

Your FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :furious:

[burrben]

that blows

[Midkiff]

godammit fuck

[docgoblin]

This is getting insane. Now FreeFm has empty slots from 9a-12p and 9p-12a. Given that and the possibility of O&A going down they may turn their backs on the talk format completely, which will again leave R&F without a commercial outlet... JUST WHEN THEY WERE GETTING A DECENT AUDIENCE!!! Once again CBS should be ashamed of themselves! Did any advertisers even leave or threaten to leave JV & Elvis' show? I didn't hear of any... except possibly Ching Chow frozen entrees....(I'm deeply sorry that I said that).

AND WHY IS THAT FAT PIG ROSIE O'DONNELL STILL ON THE AIR??!?! HER CHINESE SLANG REMARKS WERE FAR WORSE THAN THAT HACKY BIT JV & ELVIS DID!!!!

AAAAAUUUUUUGH!!!!!

[docgoblin]

Sorry for the double post

[cougarjake13]

This is getting insane. Now FreeFm has empty slots from 9a-12p and 9p-12a. Given that and the possibility of O&A going down they may turn their backs on the talk format completely, which will again leave R&F without a commercial outlet... JUST WHEN THEY WERE GETTING A DECENT AUDIENCE!!! Once again CBS should be ashamed of themselves! Did any advertisers even leave or threaten to leave JV & Elvis' show? I didn't hear of any... except possibly Ching Chow frozen entrees....(I'm deeply sorry that I said that).

AND WHY IS THAT FAT PIG ROSIE O'DONNELL STILL ON THE AIR??!?! HER CHINESE SLANG REMARKS WERE FAR WORSE THAN THAT HACKY BIT JV & ELVIS DID!!!!

AAAAAUUUUUUGH!!!!!

b/c if they went after her theyd just say it was sexist

[Tenbatsuzen]

Rosie has a pass because she's fat, she's lesbian, and she's a woman. Thus then, two white guys can't say shit.

[J.Clints]

b/c if they went after her theyd just say it was sexist

And she is gay so everything is on her side.

[sailor]

what??!?

[cougarjake13]

And she is gay so everything is on her side.

yeh that too

[spoon]

At this point you have to wonder why anyone would want to work for CBS radio. Anyone who signs with them from this point out has no excuse. They've proven they have negative loyalty.

The problem is that only four companies own 90% of the radio around and it's only getting worse. Thanks Regan! Thanks for breaking up all those lousy anti-monopoly laws especially those involving the airwaves and media. I for one hated all those choices in music and ideas!

[HBox]

The problem is that only four companies own 90% of the radio around and it's only getting worse. Thanks Regan! Thanks for breaking up all those lousy anti-monopoly laws especially those involving the airwaves and media. I for one hated all those choices in music and ideas!

http://www.funny-business.com/uploads/images/1157/BrianReganWeb.jpg

"What did I do? I was just getting some donuts."

[sailor]

http://www.funny-business.com/uploads/images/1157/BrianReganWeb.jpg

"What did I do? I was just getting some donuts."

i was SO going to post that!

[TheMojoPin]

So when is the station going to change formats to top 40's music? That's safe isn't it?

Make Believe Ballroom 4 EVA'.

[Lillibaby]

FUCK YOU, Jeanette Wang, for thinking that you speak for the entire Asian community!

I am soooooooooo pissed off! As someone of East Asian descent, who listened to JV and Elvis avidly, I can safely say that the outdated and hypersensitive views of people like Jeanette Wang is merely a sign of their age and generation. Old hacks like her simply don't understand 21st century pop culture. And I bet this self-serving bitch is as racist as she claims JV and Elvis to be (even though we all know those two are not...). I bet she had zero objection to Don Imus calling the Rutgers girls the word "nappy." The truly sad thing is, that while JV and Elvis were simply playing on racial stereotypes for a joke, Jeanette Wang probably means it when she describes black people as the N word at her dinner table.

Please, boys, go to XM (although that's obviously not safe anymore, either).

P.S. please fire Leslie Gold and her entire show, too, while you're at it, CBS...and replace her with CT & Jivin!!!

[sailor]

FUCK YOU, Jeanette Wang, for thinking that you speak for the entire Asian community!

I am soooooooooo pissed off! As someone of East Asian descent, who listened to JV and Elvis avidly, I can safely say that the outdated and hypersensitive views of people like Jeanette Wang is merely a sign of their age and generation. Old hacks like her simply don't understand 21st century pop culture. And I bet this self-serving bitch is as racist as she claims JV and Elvis to be (even though we all know those two are not...). I bet she had zero objection to Don Imus calling the Rutgers girls the word "nappy." The truly sad thing is, that while JV and Elvis were simply playing on racial stereotypes for a joke, Jeanette Wang probably means it when she describes black people as the N word at her dinner table.

Please, boys, go to XM (although that's obviously not safe anymore, either).

P.S. please fire Leslie Gold and her entire show, too, while you're at it, CBS...and replace her with CT & Jivin!!!


look at fake lilly getting all riled up. nice! :)

[oh_kee_pa]

we're turning into The Demolition Man movie, when you would have demerits if you cursed in public....

im having nightmares of being surrounded by Rob Schneider and Sandra bullock...
Shoot me now, and make sure im not frozen

[sailor]

we're turning into The Demolition Man movie, when you would have demerits if you cursed in public....

im having nightmares of being surrounded by Rob Schneider and Sandra bullock...
Shoot me now, and make sure im not frozen

2nd person to make that connection (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59832&page=2) today...

[lleeder]

I bet Wesley Snipes will be frozen anyday now.

[cougarjake13]

I bet Wesley Snipes will be frozen anyday now.

and stallone as well

[pennington]

CBS management has hit a new low, even for them. This is bad news for R&F, O&A and Nick DiPaolo.

Good Luck Dog House. I hope you're on the radio again soon.

[MadMatt]

This sucks. I have never heard the guys, but it still sucks.

I hate what our nation has let itself turn into and fear what is yet to come... Curtailed Freedoms and a nation of squeaky wheeled interest groups running all over the Constitution and the rights it quarantees.

F#ck.

[samnyc]

I don't listen to the doghouse but that bit was really tepid compared to a lot of talk radio. Same for the Homeless Charlie comment.

[ralphbxny]

Really stinks!!! RIP Boys. Wasnt a fan of the show but they didnt need to loose it like they did.

[The Jays]

This is such fucking bullshit, and this is the fucking problem with this Imus thing. Now, everytime someone is offended, they are going to pull the Sharpton card and be all "well, you did it to this guy, so why not do it to this guy." People are so fucking afraid to be hypocrites in this world. I would rather have a hypocrite who did the right thing than some arrogant fuck who steadfastly sticks to his guns and refuses to be wrong. That's the number one thing wring with this country, starting with our fuck of a President, and working its way down; dumb fucks too proud of themselves and unwilling to be wrong.


This is bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, BULLSHIT!

[Krodos]

Friday night on his Fox News television show, "Hannity & Colmbs" Sean Hannity reported that New York DJs JV & Elvis had been officially terminated by CBS Radio at approximatly 8:00 P.M. EST. This report is unconfirmed as of yet. More information will follow.

J.V. and Elvis were suspended without pay earlier this month for a replayed segment in which one of the DJs used a fake Asian Accent and placed a prank call to a chineese resturaunt.


NY Times Reports: Sponsor Pulls Out of Opie &Anthony and Nick DePaolo Show

Almost two weeks after CBS Radio fired Don Imus for his racially and sexually demeaning remarks about the Rutgers women’s basketball team, Nick Di Paolo opened his talk show on another CBS station in New York by mocking a manual that, he said, one of his bosses had given him that morning.

The booklet was entitled “Words Hurt and Harm” and, as described by Mr. Di Paolo, it urged him and his brethren to avoid the sort of stereotypes that had not only upended Mr. Imus but had also just gotten two colleagues on WFNY (92.3 FM) suspended for broadcasting a six-minute prank call littered with slurs to a Chinese restaurant.

“Right away, we’re starting with a false premise,” Mr. Di Paolo told his listeners on April 25, just after noon. “Because words don’t hurt.”

He then proceeded to refer to someone in the studio who was apparently of Colombian descent as “a drug dealer,” before using an exercise in the manual as a springboard to the following observations: that “enough” Native Americans drank to make them fair game for a joke; that waiters in Chinese restaurants were “efficient” and “better than most, you know, other ethnic groups as waiters and waitresses”; and that Jewish mothers were “bad cooks and a little hairy.”

The part of the radio spectrum where Mr. Di Paolo holds forth each day — shows in which commentary and entertainment fuse, sometimes under the rubric of a morning or afternoon “zoo” — remains as arguably and insidiously untamed in the days after Mr. Imus’s collapse as it was before, based on a New York Times screening of nearly 250 hours of shock-talk radio broadcast over the last week.

Gay men and lesbians, and women and Muslims, among others, were frequent targets of ridicule; coarse, sexually explicit banter, particularly descriptions of anal and oral sex, proliferated, much of it reminiscent of the routines that once drew Howard Stern heavy penalties; and meanness appeared to be a job prerequisite, whether a host was belittling someone who called in or the unwitting subject of a prank call.

In a sense, the hosts of these shows are juggling live grenades each day, putting the companies that broadcast and sponsor them at the greatest risk of collateral damage, particularly as the smoke clears from the Imus affair.

After being told of Mr. Di Paolo’s comments, for example, officials of the New York State Lottery said they had decided to discontinue all advertising on his show. They also said they would no longer sponsor “Opie and Anthony,” a morning show on the same station, after being apprised of a line uttered by a comedian who is a regular guest. “Would it be possible, could you whistle ‘Singin’ in the Rain’ while I rape a girl?” the comedian had asked another guest, a professional whistler, in an old interview replayed on April 25.

All told, The Times listened to a dozen prominent shows on so-called terrestrial radio for five weekdays in a row. Some, like “Mancow’s Morning Madhouse,” out of Chicago, and “El Vacilón de la Mañana,” a Spanish-language program originating in New York, draw tens of thousands of listeners each day on multiple stations across the country. Others tend to reach a more regional audience, including “The Jersey Guys,” an afternoon talk show that is among the most popular in New Jersey, and “Steve and D.C.,” which has similar reach in St. Louis.

In one respect, Mr. Imus and the hole he dug for himself were unique: a nationally syndicated radio host who interviewed the powerful used his bully pulpit, not just on radio but also on a cable news network, to make a racially charged aside about largely defenseless victims.

And yet, in the weeks after his firing, the nation’s AM and FM airwaves have continued to crackle with the kind of crude remarks, off-color bits and unfiltered rage that might well run afoul of the standards that Mr. Imus was said by his employers, and critics, to have violated.

One morning late last month, for example, Mancow, the syndicated talk show host whose real name is Erich Muller and whose audience was estimated at 1.5 million by Talkers magazine as recently as last fall, could be heard dismissing a caller as a “brain-dead fetus” and a “late-term abortion that somehow crawled out of the Dumpster” after the man’s phone connection gave out.

Mr. Muller — whose show is heard prominently on AM talk radio in South Florida (the station call letters are WMEN, a nod to its format), as well as in Houston, Indianapolis and San Francisco — also suggested on the same broadcast that “radical Muslims” would not stop until they had flattened American religion like a steamroller.




I'm really just sick of this fucking bullshit. I am so sick of this "Soccer Mom Society"

http://www.peopleagainstcensorship.org/

[Don Stugots]

there are already two other threads about this, please use them.

[MadMatt]

Awwww, c'mon! I wanted to start one too!

[Fallon]

Triple Merge!

[Reephdweller]

I never cared for their show, but that is absolute bullshit. Radio and freedom of speech truly is dead.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Triple Merge!

Is that like DP with two black guys with a rotisserie?

[Don Stugots]

FUCK YOU, Jeanette Wang, for thinking that you speak for the entire Asian community!

I am soooooooooo pissed off! As someone of East Asian descent, who listened to JV and Elvis avidly, I can safely say that the outdated and hypersensitive views of people like Jeanette Wang is merely a sign of their age and generation. Old hacks like her simply don't understand 21st century pop culture. And I bet this self-serving bitch is as racist as she claims JV and Elvis to be (even though we all know those two are not...). I bet she had zero objection to Don Imus calling the Rutgers girls the word "nappy." The truly sad thing is, that while JV and Elvis were simply playing on racial stereotypes for a joke, Jeanette Wang probably means it when she describes black people as the N word at her dinner table.

Please, boys, go to XM (although that's obviously not safe anymore, either).

P.S. please fire Leslie Gold and her entire show, too, while you're at it, CBS...and replace her with CT & Jivin!!!


look at fake lilly getting all riled up. nice! :)

i wonder if Phake Lilly is just as hot as Real lilly when she is angry. Also, I agree with giving CT & Jivin the show before Ron & Fez.

[docgoblin]

One morning late last month, for example, Mancow, the syndicated talk show host whose real name is Erich Muller and whose audience was estimated at 1.5 million by Talkers magazine as recently as last fall, could be heard dismissing a caller as a “brain-dead fetus” and a “late-term abortion that somehow crawled out of the Dumpster” after the man’s phone connection gave out.

Mr. Muller — whose show is heard prominently on AM talk radio in South Florida (the station call letters are WMEN, a nod to its format), as well as in Houston, Indianapolis and San Francisco — also suggested on the same broadcast that “radical Muslims” would not stop until they had flattened American religion like a steamroller.


Did that hypocrite Mancow really say these things!?!!? If so, given the current state of affairs, he should be fired immediately!

[J.Clints]

Did that hypocrite Mancow really say these things!?!!? If so, given the current state of affairs, he should be fired immediately!

yea and I just reminded him of it.

mancow@mancow.com

[TheMojoPin]

All told, The Times listened to a dozen prominent shows on so-called terrestrial radio for five weekdays in a row. Some, like “Mancow’s Morning Madhouse,” out of Chicago

Mancow no longer broadcasts in our out of Chicago. Clearly the sign of a well researched piece.

[mdr55]

Doghouse!!!!

[sailor]

Mancow no longer broadcasts in our out of Chicago. Clearly the sign of a well researched piece.

even though he's not heard there, isn't that where he broadcasts out of still? i checked his web site and could not find info, but he still identifies himself with your fair city.

[Don Stugots]

Sharpton's show is out of NYC even though he isnt on the air here.

[BoondockSaint]

I feel like we are stuck in one of those South Park episodes where the town starts overeacting to everything and the kids are the only ones making sense. Rabble rabble!!!!

[docgoblin]

yea and I just reminded him of it.

mancow@mancow.com

I just sent Mancow a nice little e-mail as well (okay, maybe it wasn't little, but it was quite eloquent).

[sailor]

I just sent Mancow a nice little e-mail as well (okay, maybe it wasn't little, but it was quite eloquent).

i actually wrote a short and sweet email to him telling him he's a fool if he doesn't see himself in the same boat as these other dj's, no matter what his personal opinion of them is.

[Dash77]

I didn't care for JV and Elvis but them getting canned is bullshit...The station brass have shown were they stand and there a bunch of pussys, it's very sad to see the station not stand behind the talent...

[JimBeam]

I guess I'm seeing what Imus did and what JV & Elvis did as 2 different things.

While I don't believe that either should've been fired I can more see how what Imus said was more personal, although I dont believe he meant it that way by any means, because it referenced a distinct group ( Rutgers women's basketball ).

The JV & Elvis bit was a mock-Asian bit that's been used for years by hundreds of comedians, tv shows and movies.

You could argue it was " aimed " at a particular race but isnt all humor aimed at somebody in one way or another ?

[cougarjake13]

I feel like we are stuck in one of those South Park episodes where the town starts overeacting to everything and the kids are the only ones making sense. Rabble rabble!!!!

best analogy so far

[IMSlacker]

Doghouse!!!!

What???

[TheMojoPin]

even though he's not heard there, isn't that where he broadcasts out of still? i checked his web site and could not find info, but he still identifies himself with your fair city.

I had always heard that he was now broadcasting somewhere in Florida.

God, I fucking hope he's still not here.

[Krodos]

I'm a fan of both the Dog House and JV and Elvis. I can't stand it. I really can't stand it. Tom Chiasano (if that's how you spell his name) is a spineless pussbag of shit. If he had any balls, he'd tell those people that have nothing better to do than bitch to go to hell. Rush Limbaugh gets away with everything because Clear Channel has big shiny balls.

What really boggles my mind is that the station is trying to clean up it's act so called "racey" programming, yet they have strip and gentleman's clubs as sponsors. I'm fucking livid about this because this is complete bullshit. Fucking hypocrites is what CBS is.

I can't stand this Soccer Mom Society. Allow me to Clarify.

Soccer Mom Society, meaning a place where everything is cute and non offensive. Where entertainment is dumbed down to the level of a 4 year old. It's already happening. Just look at the sh*t that is on TV. It's kid friendly for even 9pm at night. It's also happening on the airwaves. Take a look at what happened to XM recently. XM radio, I.E. a service you pay for. What's next, getting rid of playboy TV?

I like my offensive material. It's funny. If you don't like, either ignore it or change the channel.

Thanks to "sensative people", the entertainment industry is ruined. Even satellite radio is getting yelled at by people who have nothing better to do but bitch and make the populations life a living hell. When all is quiet and peaceful, these douchebags come out of the woodwork, and rabble rouse housewives, activist groups, and uneducated minorities.

This soccer mom mentality Disneyfies everything, making media and art cute and 50's era funny. However, the soccer mom infection does not hit entertainment. It also hits stores, resturants, libraries, schools, etc, etc, etc,. A Soccer Mom thought up American Idol.

Dear minivan driving mothers of the world,

The world does not revolve around you, your "special" kid, van, or schedule. I say special because only you think it is. Your kid is probably a dumbass, but it's mommies little angel to you. Although, deep down it's mommies broken condom. Just because you have a kid, doesn't mean you have to make our lives suck.

If you don't like something, ignore it. If you don't like what your hearing, change the channel or turn it off. Thanks to you, Imus, JV and Elvis, and possibly other acts in entertainment will be destroyed because you didn't like something.



Anybody else agree with me on this?

[VioletHorizon]

I agree! Alright, I'm a mother or 2 boys (ages 1&3). I listen to O&A and R&F. sometimes even JV & Elvis, although I'm not particularly a fan. I also wasnt a fan of IMUS, but all of this is wrong. If I dont want my kids to hear it, I turn the channel and listen to it when they are not around. Its BS. This whole topic of regulating our speech in a free speech society pisses me off. We can't listen to some guy say nappy headed hos, or some prank calls, or a homeless man talking on a subscription only radio channel - but we can watch crazy people wave guns and see bloodied bodies on a regular basis on the news.

I've had enough.

[torker]

I feel like we are stuck in one of those South Park episodes where the town starts overeacting to everything and the kids are the only ones making sense. Rabble rabble!!!!
best analogy so far

But where are the angry villagers? I don't see a real public outcry.

http://lilt.ilstu.edu/smexpos/cinergia/spirit9.jpg

[VioletHorizon]

Just because you drive a minivan and have 2 kids doesn't make someone a soccer mom. My kids sing and dance to the Ron&Fez song on free FM, and get so upset when its the weekend and they don't hear it.

If I dont want my kids to hear it, I turn it off. I like my radio.

The way I see it - is ESPECIALLY on XM - its like watching a racist comedian on HBO. A SUBSCRIPTION channel, just like XM. You pay for it, and its rated "R" or "XL". THeres no excuse for their suspension. I'm pissed. Can you tell?