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DonInNC
05-28-2007, 05:04 PM
Dr. Kevorkian is a free man on Friday. Love him or hate him, he went to prison for what he believes. Welcome back to "civilization" Dr K.
lleeder
05-28-2007, 05:13 PM
How did he get out? Is it his 80th birthday?
Don Stugots
05-28-2007, 05:16 PM
big ups to DR. K.
Fezticle98
05-28-2007, 05:25 PM
big ups to DR. K.
Isn't he still in jail?
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ChimneyFish
05-28-2007, 05:28 PM
A man of vision.
reeshy
05-28-2007, 06:14 PM
That's my uncle!!!!!!
PapaBear
05-28-2007, 06:15 PM
How did he get out? Is it his 80th birthday?
:clap:
cougarjake13
05-28-2007, 06:27 PM
A man of vision.
so was hitler
Don Stugots
05-28-2007, 06:29 PM
Isn't he still in jail?
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hahahaha
pennington
05-28-2007, 06:56 PM
People who are in constant serious pain or are in the final stages of a terminal illness should have a right to end it if they want. Kevorkian got people discussing this and knew he would be arrested and sent to prison for assisting people commit suicide.
He had his beliefs and he paid the price. He said he's not going to assist again but he will continue to speak about it. May he live another 20 healthy years.
Yerdaddy
05-29-2007, 02:23 AM
In my philosophy I'm more concearned about suffering than death. That applies to myself, fellow humans and animals. In that regards I consider Kevorkian to be a champion of civil rights and his imprisonment to be a national disgrace perperated on by the power of the religious right. Big ups to the creepy crusader of death! I hope he's rememebered fondly in the history books until they're replaced in schools and libraries with the Book of Mormon.
In my philosophy I'm more concearned about suffering than death. That applies to myself, fellow humans and animals. In that regards I consider Kevorkian to be a champion of civil rights and his imprisonment to be a national disgrace perperated on by the power of the religious right. Big ups to the creepy crusader of death! I hope he's rememebered fondly in the history books until they're replaced in schools and libraries with the Book of Mormon.
Agreed.
Crippler
05-29-2007, 07:25 AM
In my philosophy I'm more concearned about suffering than death. That applies to myself, fellow humans and animals. In that regards I consider Kevorkian to be a champion of civil rights and his imprisonment to be a national disgrace perperated on by the power of the religious right. Big ups to the creepy crusader of death! I hope he's rememebered fondly in the history books until they're replaced in schools and libraries with the Book of Mormon.
It's not a popular side of the argument to take, but I totally agree. I was going to just make a joke about being happy to have him back for the purpose of thinning the herd, but I truly believe he's doing good work. There's nothing worse than watching a loved one suffer. If we can put down a sick dog, why can't we help a sick elder who is suffering unbearably & has no realistic chance for recovery & a decent quality of life?
It puts me in a weird spot between my Catholic upbringing & my enjoying of the miracles of modern science (not unlike abortion), but it's another case where I seem to side with science & common sense over religion.
Dougie Brootal
05-29-2007, 08:02 AM
It's not a popular side of the argument to take, but I totally agree. I was going to just make a joke about being happy to have him back for the purpose of thinning the herd, but I truly believe he's doing good work. There's nothing worse than watching a loved one suffer. If we can put down a sick dog, why can't we help a sick elder who is suffering unbearably & has no realistic chance for recovery & a decent quality of life?
It puts me in a weird spot between my Catholic upbringing & my enjoying of the miracles of modern science (not unlike abortion), but it's another case where I seem to side with science & common sense over religion.
it makes me happy to read that. very happy indeed.
SatCam
05-29-2007, 11:21 AM
He had his beliefs and he paid the price. He said he's not going to assist again but he will continue to speak about it. May he live another 20 healthy years.
except for the whole thing where he has hep c and is going to die soon
Mike Teacher
05-29-2007, 01:11 PM
Many are dying to meet him.
pennington
05-29-2007, 02:54 PM
except for the whole thing where he has hep c and is going to die soon
I didn't know he had the hep. Well, when it comes, may the end be quick and painless for him.
I fully agree that a person's life is their own to do with as they wish, even end it. In the event of a terminal illness which brings pain, suffering, and a loss of dignity, I can't imagine why anyone would be against letting their loved one pass in a peaceful manner.
On the other hand, I can understand the legal argument of not wanting to give the power to be an executioner to doctors.
It's an emotional issue for sure, but I find it very easy to see both sides.
ChimneyFish
05-29-2007, 03:55 PM
In my philosophy I'm more concearned about suffering than death. That applies to myself, fellow humans and animals. In that regards I consider Kevorkian to be a champion of civil rights and his imprisonment to be a national disgrace perperated on by the power of the religious right. Big ups to the creepy crusader of death! I hope he's rememebered fondly in the history books until they're replaced in schools and libraries with the Book of Mormon.
Agreed.
Yeah....I'm really looking forward to the Book of Mormon in public schoools and libraries also.
Yeah....I'm really looking forward to the Book of Mormon in public schoools and libraries also.
It beats those missionaries coming to the house.
On the other hand, I can understand the legal argument of not wanting to give the power to be an executioner to doctors.
I wouldn't use the word "executioner". I mean, does a vet consider himself/herself an "executioner" when putting down a suffering animal? I would consider that doctor to continue to be a "healer" in the sense that he/she is attempting to heal a suffering patient of their pain.
That's just my spin. I don't know if medicos see it that way.
Yerdaddy
05-30-2007, 04:54 AM
It beats those missionaries coming to the house.
I saw two of those short sleeved white button-ups gliding towards me on bikes the other day and I instinctively dove behind a bar sign like the Khmer Rouge was rolling into town. Those fuckers tracked me down at at least a dozen locations in America from West Coast to East Coast and I'm still scared they're going to stalk me across the globe. So they're here in Cambodia and I bet they're miserable - acting like benevolent souls in a place where a sick baby or a pair of missing limbs from a landmine isn't so much a handicap as a trade to be plied for tourist dollars.
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"Hi! Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?"
"Uhh. Excuse me a second."
"Hey Suk! Toss that sick baby on my stumps a second, would ya? Thanks."
"Ok, where were we? Oh yeah. Ooohhhh you rich Mormon boys are here to help me because you love Jesus and Jesus helped the sick and poor. [Mormons look at each other confused. "He did?"] Please give me money that I can buy food for my baby. I have no arms and cannot work. I was hurt by landmine that your country made for my bad government. Or... you want boom boom with my sister? She have very small penis. You fuck from behind - not even notice."
Horrified, the missionaries empty their wallets into the Cambodian man's front pockets. The door slams shut. Cambodian tosses the baby into the cri b, not even waking it up, pops open a can of Angkor Beer with his stumps and says, "Right! Did I hear Liverpool score while I was working those saps just now?"
That's how I hear it works around here. Tons of American missionaries from every goddamn sect just getting fleeced by the locals who are infinitely more shrewed than we give them credit for. What were we talking about again?
I wouldn't use the word "executioner". I mean, does a vet consider himself/herself an "executioner" when putting down a suffering animal? I would consider that doctor to continue to be a "healer" in the sense that he/she is attempting to heal a suffering patient of their pain.
That's just my spin. I don't know if medicos see it that way.
Semantics for sure, brother, but like I said, I can easily see why some would view it as such.
Perhaps the answer is to let terminally ill people have access to potentially lethal amounts of pain killers so it's technically not the doctor administering the lethal dose.
DonInNC
05-30-2007, 06:15 PM
Semantics for sure, brother, but like I said, I can easily see why some would view it as such.
Perhaps the answer is to let terminally ill people have access to potentially lethal amounts of pain killers so it's technically not the doctor administering the lethal dose.
Not a bad idea, but I think maybe making it being a medical procedure takes way some of the stigma normally attached to suicide.
The one reservation I have is that if it becomes widely accepted, its not much of a leap to insuranace companies pushing for it. With that said, I think people should have the ability to end their suffering. Personally, I don't fear death as much as I fear what's going to kill me.
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