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nate1000
05-29-2007, 12:01 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/national/main2861551.shtml?source=mostpop_story

" Casey did indeed die for nothing" and in the end, with all of your hair pulling and clothes rending, you accomplished nothing.

Don Stugots
05-29-2007, 12:08 PM
i feel bad for her, but i feel the same way everyday of my life.

JPMNICK
05-29-2007, 12:09 PM
why are you calling her opie?

Furtherman
05-29-2007, 12:21 PM
and in the end, with all of your hair pulling and clothes rending, you accomplished nothing.

Did you expect one woman to accomplish something?

At first, all she wanted was to meet with Bush.


There were thousands of Cindy Sheehan's in the 70's that protested the Vietnam War. They actually made a difference.

Now, no one wants to do the leg work. Apathy has robbed most of any ambition.

The woman lost a son. Anyone, who has no idea what that feels like, should even begin to tell her how she should morn.

Her departing comments make a lot of good points. This being a most excellent one:
Sheehan criticized "blind party loyalty" as a danger, no matter which side it involved, and said the current two-party system is "corrupt" and "rapidly descending into with nary a check or balance: a fascist corporate wasteland."

That's what her protests turned into - corporate. And yet those who were so against her were throwing stones in their glass houses. Repeating what their buffoon pundits told them to say (the O'Reilly's and Rush's of our country).

She's going home now, and I hope she can rest peacefully with her children.

waltermitty
05-29-2007, 12:24 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Cindy_Sheehan_VFP.jpg/400px-Cindy_Sheehan_VFP.jpg

http://www.meaus.com/109-cindy-sheehan.JPEG

http://www.antimedia.us/files/ShowLetter.jpg


She does kinda look like Opie....
God I love that last Picture......

cupcakelove
05-29-2007, 12:25 PM
She does kinda look like Opie....


Only much, much, heavier.



I couldn't resist.

epo
05-29-2007, 01:02 PM
Cindy Sheenan is a normal one-issue person. She's no different than an abortion protester or an environmentalist. Now I'm very symphathetic to Cindy Sheenan's pain...as I agree with her than we shouldn't be in Iraq. But I personally don't need her view on "how the parties are doing".

If she thinks that a party that only has the House & a hairstring (read-Lieberman) majority in the Senate is going to fix her issue...that happens to be running against a President who's very stake in history is based on her ONE issue, then she is wrong. If she really wants to help make change happen, support helping the Democrats elect a non-hawk into the White House.

I get her issue, but I also get the fact that this woman has been used by interest groups for the wrong reasons.

lleeder
05-29-2007, 01:05 PM
I completely disagree with this. I see her to be alot more like Peppermint Patty than Opie.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w260/mynameistanya/peppermint-pattyx2.gif

DarkHippie
05-29-2007, 02:23 PM
Poor lady. her son died. her marraige died. and she looks like opie

Bulldogcakes
05-29-2007, 02:40 PM
I cant imagine using my own son's casket as a political soapbox. Disgusting.



and I also no longer support this war, or president.

Gvac
05-29-2007, 02:46 PM
I feel awful for Ms. Sheehan (and anybody who loses a loved one in war) but she turned herself into a caricature when she started wearing hippie shirts and beads and flashing peace signs.

When you look like a reject from 40 years ago it's hard to be taken seriously.

I also get incredibly agitated when people say such moronic things as "violence never solved anything." Oh really? Go read your history books.

I'm not a pro-war hawk, but I'm a logical human being. There's an enormous difference between being a peace lover and being a pussy.

Dudeman
05-29-2007, 02:51 PM
I feel awful for Ms. Sheehan (and anybody who loses a loved one in war) but she turned herself into a caricature when she started wearing hippie shirts and beads and flashing peace signs.

When you look like a reject from 40 years ago it's hard to be taken seriously.


I don't understand why what she wears is in any way relevant. It is the superficial view of issues that allows unintelligent people to become our leaders. The presidential debates are judged by how the candidates smile. And the Bush campaign put so many restricitions on our last debates, they were reduced to 1 minute, rehersed bs speeches. Lets focus on content, not window dressing.

Gvac
05-29-2007, 02:53 PM
It's sad but true, but your appearance is how most people will judge you.

It would be wonderful if the next Presidential debates featured candidates in shitty old sneakers and tattered jeans, but do you honestly think that will ever happen?

Dudeman
05-29-2007, 03:00 PM
It's sad but true, but your appearance is how most people will judge you.

It would be wonderful if the next Presidential debates featured candidates in shitty old sneakers and tattered jeans, but do you honestly think that will ever happen?

You are taking what I wrote and distorting it. With regards to the debates, the real extension of what I wrote would be to have the candidates do a real, old-fashion debate- without short timed answers and allowing the candidates to address themselves. This would promote ideas and substance over superficial methods of complaring the candidates. The silly, illogical extension of what I wrote is to say I want debates with people wearing spiderman costumes (or jeans and a t-shirt).

Do you really think what I wrote was in favor of people wearing whatever they want, or really about judging people on their ideas, not their makeup?

Bulldogcakes
05-29-2007, 03:01 PM
I feel awful for Ms. Sheehan (and anybody who loses a loved one in war) but she turned herself into a caricature when she started wearing hippie shirts and beads and flashing peace signs.


I felt sorry for her at first, too. But at some point, I realized its not about her son at all. Its all about her, her son is just the vehicle for her attention whoring. She shows little to no concern for her son's wishes, her son was a big supporter of the war. The more I learn about the family, I doubt the two of them were very close. Which makes her actions even worse.

Gvac
05-29-2007, 03:08 PM
I don't understand why what she wears is in any way relevant.

Lets focus on content, not window dressing.

Your words.

How did I distort them?

Dudeman
05-29-2007, 03:08 PM
I felt sorry for her at first, too. But at some point, I realized its not about her son at all. Its all about her, her son is just the vehicle for her attention whoring. She shows little to no concern for her son's wishes, her son was a big supporter of the war. The more I learn about the family, I doubt the two of them were very close. Which makes her actions even worse.

to be honest i don't much about her relationship with her son, but when you say he was a supporter of the war when he died in 2004 (or at least when he enrolled), what do you think are the chances he believed sadaam had wmd or supported al queda or help in 9/11. a frightening number of americans believed some of those things. if you were his mom, under those conditions, should the fact that he supported the war discourage or encourage you to protest the war?

Dudeman
05-29-2007, 03:13 PM
Your words.

How did I distort them?

When I write "how does what she wears matters" what do you think that really means?
A) wear anything you want, including a bunny costume
B) don't focus on window dressing, instead focus on the issue at hand
C) pee in Cheney's butt

And don't just quote one sentence- read beyond one line.

Gvac
05-29-2007, 03:16 PM
Dudeman, you're being far too snippy for someone who has a hard time explaining himself.

Expand your vocabulary, not your vitriol.

lleeder
05-29-2007, 03:18 PM
Expand your vocabulary, not your vitriol.

You must have a line writer. CLASSIC

Bulldogcakes
05-29-2007, 03:25 PM
to be honest i don't much about her relationship with her son, but when you say he was a supporter of the war when he died in 2004 (or at least when he enrolled), what do you think are the chances he believed sadaam had wmd or supported al queda or help in 9/11. a frightening number of americans believed some of those things. if you were his mom, under those conditions, should the fact that he supported the war discourage or encourage you to protest the war?

There are over 3,000 war dead. I'm sure many of their parents are Democrats, some Liberal Democrats and some I'm sure are very politically active. Yet you don't hear from them once for every 100 times you hear from Cindy. Dont you suspect there's something else going on here?

Dudeman
05-29-2007, 04:48 PM
There are over 3,000 war dead. I'm sure many of their parents are Democrats, some Liberal Democrats and some I'm sure are very politically active. Yet you don't hear from them once for every 100 times you hear from Cindy. Dont you suspect there's something else going on here?

Here is an article written by Pat Tillman's brother Kevin, who also served in the military.

read it here: here is a quote from Tillman, "Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground. " (http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070527_tillman_and_kovic_on_war_and_sacrifice/)

In other words, there are other families who are against the war. Maybe we should be less worried about shooting down those who disagree with the war (especially if they wear funny shirts), and more worried about those who do support the war.

DonInNC
05-29-2007, 05:25 PM
Funny, just yesterday I was wondering what happened to her. I thought she had called it quits months ago. With that said, I admire people who put the common good before themselves rather than just take the path of least resistance. Plus, I like anybody who makes the right go apeshit the way she has. Hope she's able to rebuild her life.

You know Rush is jerking it right now.

high fly
05-29-2007, 05:38 PM
Well, it couldn't go on forever the way it looks like this fiasco of a war will.

Sheehan managed to get a lot of attention for her cause, and that's a pretty good accomplishment.

pennington
05-29-2007, 05:39 PM
I read in an article that she has other children (2, I think) who she hasn't seen in a long time. I hope she goes back to her life and doesn't try to write a book or something to get back into the limelight.

It's sad but she seems to know she was used.

scottinnj
05-29-2007, 06:21 PM
http://www.antimedia.us/files/ShowLetter.jpg


She does kinda look like Opie....
God I love that last Picture......




You don't see it, but she's giving the rev a reach around.

Hand Jobs for Peace, Baby!

epo
05-29-2007, 06:23 PM
You know Rush is jerking it right now.

He must have taken his pills.

scottinnj
05-29-2007, 06:27 PM
Here is an article written by Pat Tillman's brother Kevin, who also served in the military.

read it here: here is a quote from Tillman, "Somehow American leadership, whose only credit is lying to its people and illegally invading a nation, has been allowed to steal the courage, virtue and honor of its soldiers on the ground. " (http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20070527_tillman_and_kovic_on_war_and_sacrifice/)

In other words, there are other families who are against the war. Maybe we should be less worried about shooting down those who disagree with the war (especially if they wear funny shirts), and more worried about those who do support the war.


Kevin is absolutely right. But Cindy is a loon. I always considered her "hands off" out of respect for her dead son (She DID see President Bush-just had a hissy fit when he wouldn't goto her a second time) but when she started calling Hezbollah and Hamas freedom fighters....it was too late for medication at that point, IMHO

patsopinion
05-29-2007, 06:36 PM
good attention grabbing whore
ive been anti iraq before we went into afganistan

if your really tired of war then stop getting your news from orgs that make money off of it like cbs


protest the war at cbs.... hhmmm
it seems to work for everything else

A.J.
05-30-2007, 03:54 AM
It would be wonderful if the next Presidential debates featured candidates in shitty old sneakers and tattered jeans, but do you honestly think that will ever happen?

It's my one chance to get the nomination.

As for Cindy Sheehan's sanity...

"Camp Casey has served its purpose," Sheehan said. "It’s for sale. Anyone want to buy five beautiful acres in Crawford, Texas? I will consider any reasonable offer. I hear George Bush will be moving out soon, too...which makes the property even more valuable."

WHAAAAAAAAAT?

Yerdaddy
05-31-2007, 02:30 AM
We have learned nothing from the Iraq War.

scottinnj
06-01-2007, 07:00 PM
Amen, Yerdaddy. Afuckingmen.

Tenbatsuzen
07-09-2007, 05:12 AM
We have learned nothing from the Iraq War.

Cindy Sheehan has. Like how to lie and to twist your message and your communication to fit your personal needs and goals.

She's back, and now she's taking on Pelosi. Basically saying that if Pelosi doesn't meet her challenge, she'll run against her. She's blaming Pelosi for not leading the charge to impeach Bush.

That retirement lasted quick.

(and yes, I think Bush is an awful president and the Iraq war is worthless)

JPMNICK
07-09-2007, 05:16 AM
i think talking about impeachment is worthless. it is the new boy who cried wolf. i started seeing impeach bush signs like 6 years ago, and the same shit with clinton.

Yerdaddy
07-09-2007, 07:28 AM
Cindy Sheehan has. Like how to lie and to twist your message and your communication to fit your personal needs and goals.

She's back, and now she's taking on Pelosi. Basically saying that if Pelosi doesn't meet her challenge, she'll run against her. She's blaming Pelosi for not leading the charge to impeach Bush.

That retirement lasted quick.

(and yes, I think Bush is an awful president and the Iraq war is worthless)

I thought they were the same person? I gotta stop listening to you guys.