Wonder how fast gas prices are going to go up?

[scottinnj]

First tropical storm of season gets stirred up in the Gulf of Mexico. (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_TROPICAL_WEATHER_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US)



So what's the bet? Gas in NJ is 2.91 a gallon. Betting on 3.10 by Wednesday. I'm also calling for the end of 2.00-3.00 a gallon gasoline. The oil companies felt us out pretty well last summer, and that ended the 2.00 and below pricing. I'll predict that the oil companies are going to try to get us used to payin 3.50 to 4.00 a gallon by the end of the summer, so we'll never see gas below 3.00 a gallon ever again.

Blood sucking fuckers.

[riverofpiss]

How many liters go into a gallon? I think it's about 3.7. Right now I am paying $1.35 per liter for gasoline in my area. That means I am paying almost $5 per gallon. Consider yourself lucky to get gas for $3 per gallon.

[Midkiff]

The terrorists have to get their funding from somewhere!

[Crispy123]

How many liters go into a gallon? I think it's about 3.7. Right now I am paying $1.35 per liter for gasoline in my area. That means I am paying almost $5 per gallon. Consider yourself lucky to get gas for $3 per gallon.

We have always paid less than most countries in Europe and Canade, here in the states. You think some of you bastards would come up with another solution than using oil. Looks like we'll have to take the lead on this one too.

:wink:

[AnnoyedGrunt]

$1.35 per liter? I'm in southern Ontario and it's around $1.10.

[bigredd]

I'm paying $3.29/gallon in Arkansas and it's fargin killin me! I'm filling up twice a week and the last one...maybe Tuesday...it was 81 fargin bucks.

[DarkHippie]

This is the best thing that has happened to the alternative energy movement. nOthing motivates like cash

[J.Clints]

I found gas for 2.98 a gallon here. We will never see it for under 2.75 again.

[scottinnj]

Gas went up 3 cents a gallon since I started this thread....about 24 hours. And it will keep climbing. Let's get with the ethanol!

[reeshy]

$5.50 by Thanksgiving!!!!!

[Fat_Sunny]

F_S Heard A Gal On Fox Business Saturday A.M. Say Supplies And Production Were Good, And That There May Be A Little Spike At The 4Th Of July, But After That It Will Go Back Below $3.00 Per Gallon.

She Did Not Seem Credible, And Fat Did Not Believe Her.

[maxx99bx]

I'm starting a carpool. My gas charges are $200 a month to drive 60 miles round trip to and from work. Should save me $1000 a year. Plus the girl who lives in my town is fuggin hot!

[J.Clints]

I guess I am lucky. I work close to home and My wife works from home so we dont spend a lot in gas.

[PapaBear]

It's $2.99 here. The weird thing is, it's the same price at every station. Usually, you have a few that are the lowest price, the majority that are a few cents higher, then the ones by the interstate that are the highest. But they're ALL $2.99 now.

[SatCam]

This is the best thing that has happened to the alternative energy movement. nOthing motivates like cash

yea weve really been hearing about alternative energy lately............................................ ....................................

[epo]

I paid 3.49 yesterday. What's a boy to do...not pay?

Actually I agree with the alternative energy idea thrown around...as nothing motivates creativity like $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[Fat_Sunny]

I paid 3.49 yesterday. What's a boy to do...not pay?

Actually I agree with the alternative energy idea thrown around...as nothing motivates creativity like $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

$3.49. Wow. F_S Filled Up Tonight, In NW NJ, PLUS (Mid-Grade = 89 Octane) Was $3.09; Regular $2.99. And We Don't Have To Pump Our Own!

[bigredd]

My ol lady drives a Benz that they say has to use premium...I don't even want to know what she's paying right now if I'm paying $3.29/gallon.

[scottinnj]

This is the best thing that has happened to the alternative energy movement. nOthing motivates like cash


I think you are right. I hope you are right. The consumers are beginning to speak in the marketplace as well. (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070602/AUTO01/706020375/1148/rss25) The nice thing about this is that Detroit is beginning to come around. The gas crunch of the late 70s had GM and Ford make real shitty cars like the fairmount and the citation. Ugh! Now the cars are cool, and are getting great mileage for non-hybrids. Now we just have to push them to do better.
Mercedes Benz just announced an SUV that is going to get 55 MPG running on their new super efficient diesel. We can do just as good.

[zathrus]

i have 2 gas stations near us and i'm surprised every day that the prices didn't go up from the day before.

[outlawfrank]

In the Detroit area the price is around $3.40 a gallon. I could find it at $3.10 if I went into the hood. The worst part for me is it costs me now $75-$80 to fill up my truck. Oh, and I fill it every 4 days. I put about 600 miles a week on my truck. If the price remained steady it would cost me $6843 every year.

[xample]

Looking around online..

The inflation-adjusted peak price of gas back in 1981 was $3.07 a gallon.

Seeing that its $3.04 across the street, I'm not going to do much complaining.

[PapaBear]

Everything dropped 10 cents today. I still think it's weird that all the stations are the same price.

[thejives]

Everything dropped 10 cents today. I still think it's weird that all the stations are the same price.
I totally agree. Around here, it's the same to the penny. It used to be that gasbuddy or somesuch site could save you a couple bucks here and there. It's like a united front out there now.

[Yerdaddy]

I think you are right. I hope you are right. The consumers are beginning to speak in the marketplace as well. (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070602/AUTO01/706020375/1148/rss25) The nice thing about this is that Detroit is beginning to come around. The gas crunch of the late 70s had GM and Ford make real shitty cars like the fairmount and the citation. Ugh! Now the cars are cool, and are getting great mileage for non-hybrids. Now we just have to push them to do better.
Mercedes Benz just announced an SUV that is going to get 55 MPG running on their new super efficient diesel. We can do just as good.

http://stuartscustoms.freeyellow.com/cars/1979Fairmont.jpg

Fuckin A that brings back memories! In 1980 we paid $5500 for a new Ford Fairmont in Santa Monica and drove it to our new home in Arizona that year. Motherfucker broke down about a dozen times in the desert on the way. I remember saving the say when I got an idea to climb over all our shit to get a coathanger from the front of our U-Haul to hold the muffler on with. By the time we got to Phoenix the whole car was held together with coathangers and Duc Tape. By 1983 that piece of shit was the first rusting corpse in our front yard of our new house in Apache Junction, Az. By the time I left in '86 the house was also being held together with coathangers and Duc Tape. Now that I think about it I'm wondering how the neighbor girls managed to get abortions with all the home and auto repairs in that town. Oddly enough I never felt compelled to read Iacoca's book about his successful life. Thanks, Scott for this little trip down memory lane.

[sailor]

about $3.30 a gallon here. costs us about $40 to fill up the tank, but we mostly use public transport to go into the city, so it's not even one fill-up a week.

[scottinnj]

Looking around online..

The inflation-adjusted peak price of gas back in 1981 was $3.07 a gallon.

Seeing that its $3.04 across the street, I'm not going to do much complaining.



Stop it. Just stop it.
The price adjusted for inflation could be 4,000,000,000 dollars a gallon, but it isn't. And it's a moot point. The point is is (god I hate doing that) the price of gasoline per gallon has more then doubled in less then 2 years, hurting a lot of Americans who have no stake in the oil industry and are just trying to get to work or use their trucks to perform services such as deliveries, towing and running equipment and other needs that can only be performed by gasoline/diesel powered motors. Adjusted for inflation makes it sound all nice and neat, like the price finally caught up with the rest of the economy. But the rest of the economy is dependent on the price of gasoline and diesel, and when you are paying more then twice the amount weekly to fill your tank, then all the things you buy have gone up because the price of fuel to deliver the goods have gone up-the price adjusted for inflation is like the professor at school explaining economics in a purely "supply vs. demand" situation. It's bullshit.
The price of a barrel of oil as I type this is 66.21 on the Bloomberg website. The last time gasoline was over 3 dollars a gallon average nationwide was when oil was about 70-72 dollars a barrel. So in reality gasoline should be averaging 2.50 a gallon and going DOWN as the "transition" from winter to summer is now over.
So adjusting for inflation is doublespeak and a way to placate most americans who are too busy to do the research and believe in free markets and the government's role in keeping monopolies from forming.
That OPEC isn't a cartel is a lie. That the oil companies don't control fuel prices is a lie. That speculators don't drive up oil prices with bullshit reasoning is a lie.
And anytime "alternative" energy is discussed, oil companies come out with absolute lies and slander. BP has actually said that ethanol is bad for your car, producing less horsepower and putting more wear on your pistons by predetonation which burns holes into piston heads. BULLSHIT. Any mechanic worth his salt can make ANY internal combustion motor that runs on gasoline run on ethanol and the IRL (Indy Racing League) has had so much success with ethanol that power and speeds are up-and most stunning of all, fuel economy increased so high that they had to reduce the amount the fuel tanks can hold because the mileage went UP so high the cars could stay on the racetrack well past the point the tires would disentegrate. Horsepower UP, fuel mileage UP, and BP will mail you a flyer telling you that ethanol is bad for your car. TOTAL BULLSHIT and the CEO of BP should be jailed.
FUCK THE OIL COMPANIES-THEY ARE LYING TO YOU TO KEEP YOU BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS!
FUCK THE ECONOMISTS-THEY ARE PROFITING OFF OF YOU WITH OIL STOCK DIVIDENDS!
FUCK THE GOVERNMENT-REPUBLICANS ARE IN THE POCKET OF BIG OIL, AND DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE POCKET OF OIL REFINERY WORKER'S UNIONS!

[Fat_Sunny]

Someone's Gonna Explode Soon!!!

[scottinnj]

http://stuartscustoms.freeyellow.com/cars/1979Fairmont.jpg

Fuckin A that brings back memories! In 1980 we paid $5500 for a new Ford Fairmont in Santa Monica and drove it to our new home in Arizona that year. Motherfucker broke down about a dozen times in the desert on the way. I remember saving the say when I got an idea to climb over all our shit to get a coathanger from the front of our U-Haul to hold the muffler on with. By the time we got to Phoenix the whole car was held together with coathangers and Duc Tape. By 1983 that piece of shit was the first rusting corpse in our front yard of our new house in Apache Junction, Az. By the time I left in '86 the house was also being held together with coathangers and Duc Tape. Now that I think about it I'm wondering how the neighbor girls managed to get abortions with all the home and auto repairs in that town. Oddly enough I never felt compelled to read Iacoca's book about his successful life. Thanks, Scott for this little trip down memory lane.

We had a Fairmont WAGON, the biggest tool in Ford's Fleet back then. It was such a piece of shit that I remember throwing gum wrappers through the hole in the floorboard so I could watch it come out from behind the car and get stuck in the radiator of the jerk tailgating us. HEE HEE. I brought up the Citation because the Fairmont wasn't reliable for long trips, so my dad borrowed a Citation one year for our annual trip to Buffalo New York from our home in Linwood, NJ. My sister and I couldn' move because we were wedged in between the Coleman Cooler and the luggage.
A goal of mine is to meet Edsel Ford III, put him in a Fairmont and drive him off a cliff.
God I hate Ford. Chevy redeemed itself with me with the Cavalier, a reliable car with a gas efficient engine that didn't puss out at toll plazas.

[scottinnj]

Someone's Gonna Explode Soon!!!


Nah, jsut polishing off a 40 ounc Bduweiser........

[xample]

Stop it. Just stop it.
FUCK THE OIL COMPANIES-THEY ARE LYING TO YOU TO KEEP YOU BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS!


I'm not much for getting into political arguments, oil or otherwise..

Since you make a statement like the above, then you should stop driving at all. Paying 3 dollars a gallon is awful, but it is a necessary evil at this point in most of our lives. I myself do not have access to a wonderful public transportation system nor would like to bike/walk the 20 miles to work every single day. Sure I could carpool with somebody, but then that just aggravates schedules and causes more headaches in the long run. Hell, if I could afford it, I wouldn't mind buying another car that was better on gas.

Sure the oil companies are lying to us, much like most other big business happens to do. But what do you expect the general public to do about that?

I only made the simple observation about inflation adjustment just to throw something out there, not to justify their actions.

Pay the 3 bucks a gallon and get over it.

[scottinnj]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/1980FordFairmontWagon.jpg


Sexy!

[scottinnj]

[QUOTE=scottinnj;1340643]Stop it. Just stop it.
FUCK THE OIL COMPANIES-THEY ARE LYING TO YOU TO KEEP YOU BUYING THEIR PRODUCTS!
QUOTE]

Since you make a statement like the above, then you should stop driving at all.
Pay the 3 bucks a gallon and get over it.


That is my point altogether....and not personally directed at you with the ending rant, so sorry if you got pissed off-I didn't mean to do that or sound so condescending.

I don't drive my personal car except on the weekends, and now as little as possible, even though it is a fuel efficient vehicle I drive my boss' car to deliver medication to those who can't leave their house. And it costs twice as much now as it less then two years ago. The United States' economy is based on oil and transportation, and a very few have control over what the very many pay for those transportation costs.

[xample]

It's alright man.

You're just more pissed than I am about it I guess..haha.

I started driving back in '99 and have seen it triple since then, so I can sympathize. It's just something were gonna have to live with for the time being.

[scottinnj]

That's why I'll never run for office. I'll be on the floor of the Congress, all tanked up on Budweiser and tequila shots, screaming "Go to hell Mr. President!" on CSPAN.

[midwestjeff]

That's why I'll never run for office. I'll be on the floor of the Congress, all tanked up on Budweiser and tequila shots, screaming "Go to hell Mr. President!" on CSPAN.

I don't usually vote but if that was your campaign slogan, i'd have to.

[Fat_Sunny]

That's why I'll never run for office. I'll be on the floor of the Congress, all tanked up on Budweiser and tequila shots, screaming "Go to hell Mr. President!" on CSPAN.

Sorry, But That Schtick Has Already Been Taken By Teddy Kennedy!

[xample]

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/xample420/pub/4002/scott.JPG

[xample]

Sorry, But That Schtick Has Already Been Taken By Teddy Kennedy!

i was really about to say something about teddy kennedy too.. but then i decided to do the above pic instead! ha

[sailor]

don't we pay a lot less than the rest of the world?

[xample]

don't we pay a lot less than the rest of the world?

i know this data is a bit old but here are some other cities (from May 06) price per gallon!
Caracas Apr-06 $0.12
Kuwait Apr-06 $0.78
Riyadh Apr-06 $0.91
Mexico City May-06 $2.25
Beijing May-06 $2.40
Johannesburg May-06 $3.70
Sydney May-06 $3.76
Tokyo May-06 $4.93
Frankfurt May-06 $6.10
Rome May-06 $6.15
London May-06 $6.36
Oslo May-06 $6.99

[Fat_Sunny]

i know this data is a bit old but here are some other cities (from May 06) price per gallon!
Caracas Apr-06 $0.12
Kuwait Apr-06 $0.78
Riyadh Apr-06 $0.91

Yeah, But If You Are A Woman, You Are Not Even Allowed To Drive In Riyadh, So Screw Them!

Fat's Old Enough To Remember Well The Gas Shortage Of 1979. You Had To Wait In Line For HOURS To Get Even A Few Gallons, And On Many Days Stations Were Just Closed And You Couldn't Get ANY Gas At All!!

F_S LOVES To Drive, And He'd Rather Pay $3 A Gallon For Gas That He Can Get, Then $1 A Gallon For Gas He Can't Get!

[xample]

Yeah, But If You Are A Woman, You Are Not Even Allowed To Drive In Riyadh, So Screw Them!

Fat's Old Enough To Remember Well The Gas Shortage Of 1979. You Had To Wait In Line For HOURS To Get Even A Few Gallons, And On Many Days Stations Were Just Closed And You Couldn't Get ANY Gas At All!!

F_S LOVES To Drive, And He'd Rather Pay $3 A Gallon For Gas That He Can Get, Then $1 A Gallon For Gas He Can't Get!

haha Rock on F_S!

[scottinnj]

i know this data is a bit old but here are some other cities (from May 06) price per gallon!
Caracas Apr-06 $0.12
Kuwait Apr-06 $0.78
Riyadh Apr-06 $0.91
Mexico City May-06 $2.25
Beijing May-06 $2.40
Johannesburg May-06 $3.70
Sydney May-06 $3.76
Tokyo May-06 $4.93
Frankfurt May-06 $6.10
Rome May-06 $6.15
London May-06 $6.36
Oslo May-06 $6.99

Most of that money in the European countries is for taxes, but the side benefit is what you were talking about before: Superior Public Transportation and ultra-fuel efficient cars.

[scottinnj]

F_S LOVES To Drive, And He'd Rather Pay $3 A Gallon For Gas That He Can Get, Then $1 A Gallon For Gas He Can't Get!


I remember that too, and I also remember a guy from Romainia who told me that is was great to have bread at 10 cents a loaf because of government price controls....except that there was never any bread to buy at 10 cents a loaf.

[scottinnj]

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/xample420/pub/4002/scott.JPG

Pssst! Wanna be a VP?

[xample]

Pssst! Wanna be a VP?

just as long as I have a bottle of Jack in my hand at every press-conference

[scottinnj]

just as long as I have a bottle of Jack in my hand at every press-conference

My kind of statesman.....Jeffersonian if I do say so.




"bonk bonk bonk" That was my skull dude.......I'm so wasted!

Budweiser...The cause of, and answer to, all of life's problems!

[xample]

wasted??

then it's time to get out and address the public!

[bigredd]

That's why I'll never run for office. I'll be on the floor of the Congress, all tanked up on Budweiser and tequila shots, screaming "Go to hell Mr. President!" on CSPAN.

I'll never run for office because of all the drinking, drugs and good times. They tend to harp on that shit. Maybe I could get the kids' vote.

[Fat_Sunny]

I'll never run for office because of all the drinking, drugs and good times. They tend to harp on that shit. Maybe I could get the kids' vote.

Yeah, Fat Has Always Loved Politics And Would Have Loved To Run For Office, But He's Got More Skeletons In His Closet Than The Catacombs Of Paris!

It Really Is A Shame; There Are Thousands Of People, No, Hundreds Of Thousands, Who Would Make Great Office-Holders, But Who Just Can't Risk The Embarassment Of Having The Crap Disclosed!

[Justice4all]

I thought it would be a good idea, with the summer coming and gas prices that will most likely start to soar again, we could post the best prices in whichever area you live in.

It might help to keep the cost of filling your tank up a little lower.

Anyone know the cheapest gas in the area? The lowest I saw was 2.95 at the Gulf station on Rt. 46 East in Little Falls.

[Knowledged_one]

try newyorkgasprices.com or newjerseygasprices.com

both are good for local prices

I am paying $.25 less a gallon then everyone else because i have the money flex fuel car that can take the E85

[Furtherman]

It's up to $4 in some places.

Truckers might go on strike.

Stock up the bunker now!!

[TooLowBrow]

I thought it would be a good idea, with the summer coming and gas prices that will most likely start to soar again, we could post the best prices in whichever area you live in.

It might help to keep the cost of filling your tank up a little lower.

Anyone know the cheapest gas in the area? The lowest I saw was 2.95 at the Gulf station on Rt. 46 East in Little Falls.

mac has a widget that shows where the cheapest gas is in your area.
on the queens border in long island its $3.33 gulf, hillside ave, new hyde park

[topless_mike]

i have the money flex fuel car that can take the E85

thanks.
you are using up our food supply.

[Zorro]

try newyorkgasprices.com or newjerseygasprices.com

both are good for local prices

I am paying $.25 less a gallon then everyone else because i have the money flex fuel car that can take the E85

...doesn't E85 get less mpg than regular?

[~Katja~]

try http://www.gasbuddy.com/

it's updated daily

PA is now way over 3 bucks but on my way to work I still get prices in the 2.90's... really strange when you think that there is not even self serve allowed... how do they pay their employees? From snacks and candy sold?

[topless_mike]

how do they pay their employees? From snacks and candy sold?

they are making their share. dont let that fool you.

[~Katja~]

I am just wondering how PA can be 30 cents higher and they don't have to have the poor fool who has to pump your gas in all kinds of weather conditions...

[TooLowBrow]

I am just wondering how PA can be 30 cents higher and they don't have to have the poor fool who has to pump your gas in all kinds of weather conditions...

becuse pa doesnt have toll roads

[keithy_19]

I got gas for 2.94 today.

[~Katja~]

becuse pa doesnt have toll roads

how about the PA turnpike... just to name one...

[ScottFromGA]

i got gas for 3.04 with the Kroger card discount of 10 cents.


still fucking outrageous considering the south normally gets better prices for fuel.

mark my words, (and others...) people are gonna start turning against this bullshit and people will die eventually cause of the prices.....theres more poor than rich in this country.

[angrymissy]

Due in part to gas prices going sky high, freaking groceries have shot WAY up in the past month. I guess they have to recoup the extra $$$ on gas somewhere. Of course my salary will not go up.

[JPMNICK]

Due in part to gas prices going sky high, freaking groceries have shot WAY up in the past month. I guess they have to recoup the extra $$$ on gas somewhere. Of course my salary will not go up.

certain items are up 50% in the past 2-3 years. salaries are not keeping up with all of this. housing and food are up so much while salaries are basically flat over the same period

[Zorro]

Due in part to gas prices going sky high, freaking groceries have shot WAY up in the past month. I guess they have to recoup the extra $$$ on gas somewhere. Of course my salary will not go up.

They're either raising prices or shrinking the packages... The organinc oatmeal I buy has always been $3.79, but the box has gone from 16oz to 12.4....

[epo]

Stagflation!

[Zorro]

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Chas4604/180px-Win_button.jpg

[foodcourtdruide]

I don't know why anyone would needlessly buy an SUV or minivan. Maybe if you have 2+ kids or some sort of business that requires it, but why drive a car that will require 20+ dollars extra everytime you fill up the gas tank?

[angrymissy]

I bought a mid sized SUV I guess, a Honda CRV, but I get 30MPG. I had to trade in my Civic after it got totaled in a flood. I needed something a bit higher off the ground.

Every time I see someone driving around in a fucking Hummer, I immediately assume they are an asshole

[Tenbatsuzen]

Here's the thing that REALLY sucks...

There's a "halo" of houses we can afford in different communities around NJ.

Problem?

They're all about 45 minutes away from work.

I floated the idea of working from home if I moved far away - it was immediately shot down.

[scottinnj]

...doesn't E85 get less mpg than regular?

Not that I know of. IRL (Indy Racing League) runs straight ethanol in the race cars, and the mileage is so good, the rules committee determined that the fuel tanks have to be smaller to be able to equalize fuel consumption and tire wear. In other words, instead of having drivers staying on the race course past the wear points of the tires in order to gain track position, now they will pit for fuel at the same time they will be needing to change tires.

[scottinnj]

I am just wondering how PA can be 30 cents higher and they don't have to have the poor fool who has to pump your gas in all kinds of weather conditions...

Fuel Taxes. I just got back from a vacation in Orlando, and the difference in taxes from state to state really shows.

NJ 2.97 a gallon
DE 3.10 a gallon
MD 3.20 a gallon
VA 3.25 a gallon
NC 3.25 a gallon
SC 3.05 a gallon
GA 3.20 a gallon
FL 3.35 a gallon