Bloomberg No Longer a Republican

[Jujubees2]

Looks like Mayor Bloomberg has left the GOP. As someone who was a life-long Dem before switching parties in order to win the NYC mayoral primary, it was old to see a "Republican" make some of the moves he has made.

I would much rather see this former NYC mayor as President than Rudy.

Mayor Bloomberg Leaves Republican Party (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19317522/)

[Don Stugots]

he still is the Mayor of the city. i said this would happen months ago and people laughed at me and called me stupid.

[Furtherman]

he still is the Mayor of the city. i said this would happen months ago and people laughed at me and called me stupid.

Is that what we were laughing at? Man, that was funny.

[cupcakelove]

he still is the Mayor of the city. i said this would happen months ago and people laughed at me and called me stupid.

No, we were laughing with you Stu, with you.

[lleeder]

[SIZE="2"]Looks like Mayor Bloomberg has left the GOP. As someone who was a life-long Dem before switching parties in order to win the NYC mayoral primary, it was old to see a "Republican" make some of the moves he has made.


How was it old? I didn't find it to be one bit old. Not old at all. Odd maybe but never old.

[HBox]

If this election boils down to some horrible choice like Clinton vs. Giuliani I'd probably vote for Bloomberg.

[spoon]

he still is the Mayor of the city. i said this would happen months ago and people laughed at me and called me stupid.

As if I stopped now!

[spoon]

If this election boils down to some horrible choice like Clinton vs. Giuliani I'd probably vote for Bloomberg.

It's bound to happen, when was the last time we had a good/tough decision bc both candidates had some great qualities?

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Bloomberg is the C.E.O of NYC, I never acknowledged him as a Mayor

:king:

[Bulldogcakes]

If this election boils down to some horrible choice like Clinton vs. Giuliani I'd probably vote for Bloomberg.

Ding ding ding!

Me too. I like Guiliani alot, but I don't think he's presidential material. But hey, I thought the same thing about G.W. Bush (and Al Gore) but that didn't stop either of them from getting the nomination.

[Recyclerz]

Bloomberg fan since Day 1!

Well, as far back as this anyway

http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32230&highlight=Bloomberg

[Fat_Sunny]

If He Runs, It Can Only Hurt The Dems. Who Would He Pull Votes Away From In The North East (NY/NJ/PA)? From Hilary! In A Close Election, F_S Thinks He Would Tilt It To The Republicans.

[TooLowBrow]

If He Runs, It Can Only Hurt The Dems. Who Would He Pull Votes Away From In The North East (NY/NJ/PA)? From Hilary! In A Close Election, F_S Thinks He Would Tilt It To The Republicans.

what a scam

[Fat_Sunny]

what a scam

Why? Do You Think The Republicans Are Putting Bloomberg Up To This?

[Marc with a c]

he still is the Mayor of the city. i said this would happen months ago and people laughed at me and called me stupid.

those are two completely separate issues.

[high fly]

Leaving the party.
Damn.
It's one thing to be in the stampede of those abandoning Bush......

[TooLowBrow]

Why? Do You Think The Republicans Are Putting Bloomberg Up To This?

sure, why not? where is jeb bush in all this?

[pennington]

Bloomberg, much like Fred Thompson, isn't keeping it much of a secret he's running for president.

I'm not a big fan of Bloomberg as smoking and food nanny. But I think he would be a good president. He's got to be better than Hillary and is not a nut case like Perot. Oh, and he has a billion dollars and is willing to spend as much as he needs to win.

It will be interesting.

[Reephdweller]

people laughed at me and called me stupid

Hey I was just laughing at you, I had no idea what drivel you were saying.

[Gvac]

I can't believe how many of you like Bloomberg and say you would vote for him.

The man's got a Napoleon complex and is convinced that his vast wealth has made him a god who should determine how people live their lives.

You want a maniacal billionaire with delusions of grandeur in the White House?



Oh, wait a minute..........

[Kevin]

I can't believe how many of you like Bloomberg and say you would vote for him.

The man's got a Napoleon complex and is convinced that his vast wealth has made him a god who should determine how people live their lives.

You want a maniacal billionaire with delusions of grandeur in the White House?



Oh, wait a minute..........

I dunno if he could spend Millions of the countries money winning and dining, and showering expisnive gifts to those crooked Olympic committee who's last thing in their mind was bringing the Olympics to NY.. What a bunch of garbage that was.

[Snacks]

I cant believe how many of you think Guiliani will win the Republican nomination or is a good choice for president. I think people only remember him after 9/11 and what he did that day. He was so hated as a Mayor before he left office and he is the reason so many things were fucked up on 9/11. He chose to put the city emergency "war room" or whatever they call it in WTC. He was told by many people to put it underground in Brooklyn, but smartass didnt listen. He knew the air wasnt safe (he was told about it and told to wear a mask) yet he declared it safe until the day he left office. He had a corrupt police commish and even vouched for him to be head of homeland security.

Talk about flip flopping, have you seen any of the republican debates? He has flip flopped on every issue, especially gay marriage, abortion, faith issues and more. Most of you hated Hillary (for what I have no idea) well could you imagine liking his 3rd wife as a represenative of the white house? She wears more make up then the hookers Guiliani had arrested while mayor.

Alot of my friends and family want him to win just b/c hes Italian. I dont think thats enough reason to vote for him. I hope he doesnt win. Ron Paul should be the Rep party nominee, it would never happen but it should.

As of now Im voting For Obama unless Ron Paul switched to Dems then hes getting my vote.

[Fat_Sunny]

F_S Likes Rudy, But Can See Almost No Scenario Under Which He Cold Actually Win The Presidency. He Just Has Way Too Many Skeletons In His Closet.

It's Too Bad, But That's The Way It Is.

PS: F_S Could Care Less What His Wife Looks Like, ANymore Than He Cares What Ron Paul's Wife Looks Like.

[legroommusic]

Are you guys kidding me? I hope you're not complaining about the patriot act because this guy loves to put his nose into where it does not belong. If you want woman as president, vote hillary, but if you want a mother(not like shaft, I literally mean a maternal figure) as president, vote for Bloomberg. This character likes to change spots just to gain power. Fuck Bloomberg.

[Yerdaddy]

Ding ding ding!

Me too. I like Guiliani alot, but I don't think he's presidential material. But hey, I thought the same thing about G.W. Bush (and Al Gore) but that didn't stop either of them from getting the nomination.

Didn't Bloomberg push through the trans fat ban that was to have hurt your business by banning a product that had no better substitutes? Give me an update on that by the way. What's the dealio? Did you get your fat trannies back?

[Bulldogcakes]

Didn't Bloomberg push through the trans fat ban that was to have hurt your business by banning a product that had no better substitutes? Give me an update on that by the way. What's the dealio? Did you get your fat trannies back?

Yes he did, and its due to go into effect July 1. I've been able to replace the margarine and shortening with butter and lard. It wasn't easy, I still think the ban was alot of aggravation for very little public health benefit (at least in my case).

He's done a bunch of things I don't like one bit. Doubling parking ticket fines, the smoking ban in bars and restaurants, the trans fat ban and now the congestion pricing plan. But overall the city has done well under him, and the surpluses the city has means there's lots to go around for all sorts of services the city needs, and the building boom should keep the gravy train running with real estate taxes and fees. The quality of life in NYC has improved steadily since Guiliani and has continued under Bloomberg. I'm not a one issue voter.

BTW-He couldn't have done any of it unless Rudy laid the groundwork, and he'd be the first to tell you that.

[A.J.]

Matters?

[EliSnow]

Well, if he runs for President, we'll see how bigoted America really is. I mean really, how many Americans will vote for a midget?

[Fat_Sunny]

Well, if he runs for President, we'll see how bigoted America really is. I mean really, how many Americans will vote for a midget?

F_S Has Never Seen Him Lined Up With A Group Of People And Did Not Realize He Is Short. How Tall Is He?

[EliSnow]

Well, if he runs for President, we'll see how bigoted America really is. I mean really, how many Americans will vote for a midget?

F_S Has Never Seen Him Lined Up With A Group Of People And Did Not Realize He Is Short. How Tall Is He?

Apparently, he's 5'6". So he's not real short, but he seem like it.

[Bulldogcakes]

Apparently, he's 5'6". So he's not real short, but he seem like it.

Tell him to sit on his wallet, then we'll see who's the biggest man in the room.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Well, if he runs for President, we'll see how bigoted America really is. I mean really, how many Americans will vote for a midget?

how many will vote for a Jew?

[Fat_Sunny]

F_S Heard Republican Pollster Frank Luntz Interviewed Tonight. This Guy Is Usually Dead On, So Fat Listens To What He Says, And What He Said Stunned Him:

If Bloomberg Runs:

1. He Will Start With 16-18% Of The Vote
2. Unlike Perot, He Will Gladly Burn Money...(The Figure $800 Million Was Mentioned)!!
3. Because The Dems Are So Pissed Off, Their Base Is More Solid, So Bloomberg Would Pull More From The REPS!!
4. If Bloomberg Went All Out, He Could Pull Up to 30% Of The Vote!!!

Those Numbers Could Send A Few States Bloombergs Way. Luntz Didn't Say This, But Imagine If Bloomberg Picked Up Say ME, MN, NH And DE. His Electors Would Hold The Balance Of Power And He Could Have Quite A List Of Demands!!

Then D'Amato Was Interviewed. He Just Endorsed Fred Thompson, And He Said The Strongest Republican Ticket Would Be Thompson-Giuliani.

This Election May Get Interesting After All!

[scottinnj]

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[GordonGekko]

This really isn't a suprise, the only reason he went to the GOP is he wouldn't get through the Democratic Primary of NYC.

[EliSnow]

Well, if he runs for President, we'll see how bigoted America really is. I mean really, how many Americans will vote for a midget?

how many will vote for a Jew?

That was my joke. I first talk about whether Americans would be bigoted against Bloomberg, and everyone thinks I mean Jewish, but then I go for the short angle.

[JimBeam]

I'm not sure what that pollster was thinking but I dount he'd get very many votes at all.

Firstly a Jewish candidate would face the same problems a Catholic candidate would in that people would see their religion as being subservient to another entity. In fact I think a Jewish candidate would be looked at much more harshly as Israel is in fact a nation and for the most part the Catholic church is an entity. Add into that the thoughts in the Arab/Muslim communities abouta Jewish president and you'd have quite an uphill battle.

Plus he's a New Yorker who's been less than loyal now to 2 parties and that won't go over well with many voters on either side of the political spectrum, at least in the middle states where the elections are now won.

In his defense I think the smoking ban was either first brought on by the state and or was also adopted by the state so he wouldn't have been able to do anything about that anyway.

[Ritalin]

Since he left the party, I think he owes those of us who live in New York an apology for hosting the Republican Convention in 04. What a fucking embarrasment that was for the city. People were literally rounded up, detained and let go after the convention. There was no protest allowed, and those assholes were allowed to parade around and go on and on about 9/11.

It was the equivalent of having to throw your worst enemy a birthday party in your house. Yuck.

[JimBeam]

Ritalin you say that as if all NYers are Democrats.

Sorry but NY isn't " your house ".

[Bulldogcakes]

Since he left the party, I think he owes those of us who live in New York an apology for hosting the Republican Convention in 04. What a fucking embarrasment that was for the city. People were literally rounded up, detained and let go after the convention. There was no protest allowed, and those assholes were allowed to parade around and go on and on about 9/11.

It was the equivalent of having to throw your worst enemy a birthday party in your house. Yuck.

He owes you nothing, and would turn off reasonable people if he was to apologize for doing something that was good for the city. It was held the last week of August if I remember correctly, which is the slowest time of the year for the city. It brought alot of extra $$ to the city, money used for much needed programs and services so there's nothing to be "embarassed' about.

There was plenty of protests allowed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Republican_National_Convention_protest_activi ty), people who got arrested were the generally ones who broke the law by either disobeying police or who tried to protest outside of their permitted areas. With of course a few exceptions who got swept up in a crowd. For those who got swept up in a crowd, the unlawful protesters are more to blame IMO than the police who are just doing their jobs trying to maintain some order dealing with crowds that approached 800,000 people. Also, engaging in "civil disobedience" is begging the police to arrest you, so you can make a martyr of yourself. Many protesters wanted to be arrested, that was their plan.

People like you are whats wrong with politics. Demonizing people who disagree with you, which shows you make no effort to listen to them or understand them. Grown ups know there are usually legitimate arguments to be made on both sides of any issue, radicals never learn this basic lesson of politics. Believe it or not, you can disagree with someone without hating them.

[GordonGekko]

It's actually people like you who ruin politics, the previous poster was only putting thier opinion, that everyone is entitled to. After you made the point of the convention bringing in money and such, that should of been it. That was a real point and the reason for the convention not to mention site's for national convention are choosen years in advance, it's not like it was as suprise. City's like NYC bid for conventions like this, they bring in thousands of people and venders, and all these people and venders, need to eat and sleep, very few live within and are willing to drive in and out every day.

So please think first, type later, do not accuse people of ruining politics for expressing thier opinion, people can have a opinion even if it is wrong. I am sure also they are not the only one who feels that way.

[Ritalin]

He owes you nothing, and would turn off reasonable people if he was to apologize for doing something that was good for the city. It was held the last week of August if I remember correctly, which is the slowest time of the year for the city. It brought alot of extra $$ to the city, money used for much needed programs and services so there's nothing to be "embarassed' about.

There was plenty of protests allowed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Republican_National_Convention_protest_activi ty), people who got arrested were the generally ones who broke the law by either disobeying police or who tried to protest outside of their permitted areas. With of course a few exceptions who got swept up in a crowd. For those who got swept up in a crowd, the unlawful protesters are more to blame IMO than the police who are just doing their jobs trying to maintain some order dealing with crowds that approached 800,000 people. Also, engaging in "civil disobedience" is begging the police to arrest you, so you can make a martyr of yourself. Many protesters wanted to be arrested, that was their plan.

People like you are whats wrong with politics. Demonizing people who disagree with you, which shows you make no effort to listen to them or understand them. Grown ups know there are usually legitimate arguments to be made on both sides of any issue, radicals never learn this basic lesson of politics. Believe it or not, you can disagree with someone without hating them.

It's actually people like you who ruin politics, the previous poster was only putting thier opinion, that everyone is entitled to. After you made the point of the convention bringing in money and such, that should of been it. That was a real point and the reason for the convention not to mention site's for national convention are choosen years in advance, it's not like it was as suprise. City's like NYC bid for conventions like this, they bring in thousands of people and venders, and all these people and venders, need to eat and sleep, very few live within and are willing to drive in and out every day.

So please think first, type later, do not accuse people of ruining politics for expressing thier opinion, people can have a opinion even if it is wrong. I am sure also they are not the only one who feels that way.

Yes, I know. People like me ruin politics, and I wish a were an adult. Some day. Some day.

The decision to hold the convention in New York was made in January of 2003, not years earlier. (wikipedia) I personally believe that this decision was made as a cynical attempt to capitalize on a national tragedy. Given what we've learned about this Administration at this point, I don't find that to be a far fetched notion for most adults.

Over 1000 people were arrested, held until the Convention was over and released without having been charged. A Justice Department investigation is ongoing. (wikipedia) I look at the political landscape today and can see more than a few Republicans, retired and active duty Officers and returning Iraq War vets who agree with the positions of those protesters.

It would be my contention that the gross gain to the NYC economy would be greatly offset by increased security costs, time lost by traffic and mass transit slowdowns, and abscenteeism. Additionally, tourism in the city has been booming for sometime now, due to (ironically) 9/11, and the weak dollar. New York is one of the top tourist destinations in the world.

Finally, I believe that Bloomberg's conversion to the Republican Party was a simple matter of electoral convenience, something he had shrewdly been building for years prior to the election. In the same vein, I think that Bloomberg courted the Republican Convention in 2004 to increase his personal exposure, and score points with the party if and when he decided on a 2008 run. The party no longer serves his purpose anymore, and so he's left them.

So, yeah, I think that the Republicans USED New York for their own form of pseudo-patriotism, which I think makes them assholes. And I think Bloomberg let them, so I think he has some expaining to do.

Does that make me a flaming yahoo? I don't think so.

[Recyclerz]

Believe it or not, you can disagree with someone without hating them.

Sure, you CAN, but I choose not to.

:wink: