Angry mob kills . . . THE WRONG GUY!

[DolaMight]

A crowd attacked and killed a passenger in a vehicle that had struck and injured a child, police said Wednesday.

Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration when the attack occurred Tuesday night. The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him, authorities said.

The Austin Police Department identified the victim as David Rivas Morales, 40. The child was taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries. (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PSKSDO0&show_article=1)

"Morales", I wonder if this mob of Texans may have delivered the same flash justice for a "Smith".

[A.J.]

Ironically, the celebration was about this:

Juneteenth marks the day Gen. Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston in 1865 to share news of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves two years earlier on Jan. 1, 1863.

"Hey slaves -- you've been free for the last two years!"

[Bulldogcakes]

Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PSKSDO0&show_article=1)

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - A crowd attacked and killed a passenger in a vehicle that had struck and injured a child, police said Wednesday.

Police believe 2,000 to 3,000 people were in the area for a Juneteenth celebration when the attack occurred Tuesday night. The man who was killed had been trying to stop the group from attacking the vehicle's driver when the crowd turned on him, authorities said.

The Austin Police Department identified the victim as David Rivas Morales, 40. The child was taken to a hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

Police spokeswoman Toni Chovonetz said she had no further information, including how many people were involved.

The driver was able to get away is cooperating with investigators, police said.

[Bob Impact]

Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PSKSDO0&show_article=1)

What the fuck happens in Texas

[JPMNICK]

Kennedy and now this

[Judge Smails]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g269/glmr34/Funny%20Pictures/inbeforethelock.gif

Already a thread (http://www.ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61055)

[Bulldogcakes]

Mine's better. Lock the other one.


But I'll settle for a merge.

[lleeder]

Juneteenth always gets crazy yo

[TheMojoPin]

Wait, there was a right guy to beat/tear to death here? Was the driver drunk? Or was it just an accident?

[HBox]

Wait, there was a right guy to beat/tear to death here? Was the driver drunk? Or was it just an accident?

Who cares?


WE DID IT!

[cougarjake13]

Wait, there was a right guy to beat/tear to death here? Was the driver drunk? Or was it just an accident?

i dont know the specifics of the accident but assuming the driver was not intoxicated or under the influence of something

then no one deserved to die or be beaten to death

[FUNKMAN]

I blame the whites

[El Mudo]

Ironically, the celebration was about this:



"Hey slaves -- you've been free for the last two years!"



They still had a war to fight....and the Proclamation didn't free any slaves legally per se...the 13th Amendment did that


It was a well-orchestrated political move to keep Europe out of the war

[Leticia]

Ironically, the celebration was about this:



"Hey slaves -- you've been free for the last two years!"



Fucked up.

[Bulldogcakes]

i dont know the specifics of the accident but assuming the driver was not intoxicated or under the influence of something

then no one deserved to die or be beaten to death

well. . . . . . .

Sorry to sound like a lawyer here, but it depends. If the guy was driving recklessly and/or got out of his car and started yelling at the boy for not riding his bike properly, then I'd probably kill the guy too.

I had something similar happen to me in the city. Some asswipe is riding his bike at full speed on the sidewalk, he crashes into me and then yells at me to "Watch where the fuck I'm walking" I chased him down the block and would have literally strangled him to death if I caught him.

[FUNKMAN]

well. . . . . . .

Sorry to sound like a lawyer here, but it depends. If the guy was driving recklessly and/or got out of his car and started yelling at the boy for not riding his bike properly, then I'd probably kill the guy too.

I had something similar happen to me in the city. Some asswipe is riding his bike at full speed on the sidewalk, he crashes into me and then yells at me to "Watch where the fuck I'm walking" I chased him down the block and would have literally strangled him to death if I caught him.

did you give him one of these?

http://www.grabagaff.com/media/img/fist_rag_mad_icecream.jpg

[Bulldogcakes]

did you give him one of these?

http://www.grabagaff.com/media/img/fist_rag_mad_icecream.jpg


oooohhhh thats nice. With the crazy eyes. I gotta remember to do that next time.

[sr71blackbird]

They still had a war to fight....and the Proclamation didn't free any slaves legally per se...the 13th Amendment did that


It was a well-orchestrated political move to keep Europe out of the war

I am not a big history guy, so how did this keep Europe out of the war, and why was it desirable to keep them out?

[Fezticle98]

Texas Crowd Kills Man After Car Hits Kid

Is there anything in the world dumber than a Texas crowd?

[DarkHippie]

I am not a big history guy, so how did this keep Europe out of the war, and why was it desirable to keep them out?

Europe had abolished slavery much earlier. The emancipation was the tipping point to keep them from lending aid to the south

[TheMojoPin]

Europe had abolished slavery much earlier. The emancipation was the tipping point to keep them from lending aid to the south

Right. Britain and France were very likely to aid the south because of the south's exports.

[FezPaul]

I blame the whites

I blame the blacks.

[sr71blackbird]

So it is almost like we were smarter then then we are now..

[FUNKMAN]

I blame the whites

I blame the blacks.

how come the Peurto Ricans always get a free pass?

[johnniewalker]

It went well in milwaukee too.

Milwaukee Juneteenth Celebrations End in Violence (http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=:ePkh8BM9E0LYwQq0w4AVRJUAKbA9QHYqhI1qk5HAo81M4s 1NV0vFe9hSg_feaQAAcJwPAg/1-0&fp=46796161881e5a63&ei=bOp5Rp-FIZC4pQKuqrgo&url=http%3A//www.myfoxmilwaukee.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail%3FcontentId%3D3550211%26version%3D1%26local e%3DEN-US%26layoutCode%3DTSTY%26pageId%3D3.2.1&cid=0&sig2=YP2cIF-b_LRCLyfGPH67eA)

"A large group leaving the area after the festival ended around 6 p.m. attacked at least two cars, and one of the drivers was pulled from his vehicle and beaten, she said.

Schwartz said a large fight started in the area about the same time between groups of girls and then grew larger as more people got involved.

Police in riot gear attempted to disperse the crowd, Schwartz said.

An officer wearing a face shield who tried to break up the fight was hit in the face, the shield shattered and the officer was cut by the shards, requiring stitches, Schwartz said."

video (http://www.breitbart.tv/html/1962.html)

[Judge Smails]

I consider myself to be a reasonably well educated individual. I have a Masters Degree (la di da) and everything. I swear to Christ, I never heard of Juneteenth until today. I thought it was a gag until I looked it up. When did this all happen and where have I been?

[Fezticle98]

how come the Peurto Ricans always get a free pass?

Ehh, they count under the blacks category.

[A.J.]

Ironically, the celebration was about this:

Juneteenth marks the day Gen. Gordon Granger arrived in Galveston in 1865 to share news of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed slaves two years earlier on Jan. 1, 1863.

"Hey slaves -- you've been free for the last two years!"

Fucked up.

I agree. If I was a slave I'd be a tad upset to hear about my emancipation TWO YEARS after it had happened.

Is that something that really should be celebrated?

[nate1000]

"Morales", I wonder if this mob of Texans may have delivered the same flash justice for a "Smith".

Definitely not for a "Jackson"

[EliSnow]

Right. Britain and France were very likely to aid the south because of the south's exports.

Actually, I read that Britain and France were not likely to send aid in any event. First with regard to the south's exports, at first Europe had a cotton suprlus, and then when they faced a shortage, it was temporary and was provided by cotton from Egypt and India.

Second, grain exports from the North were also important to Britain because of crop failures in 1860-62.

The Proclamation was the last straw, but it was one straw on several others.

[TheMojoPin]

The Proclamation was the last straw, but it was one straw on several others.

Indeed.

[JimBeam]

But if Europe was ant-slavery, as they had abolished it earlier, why would they then fight on the side that was trying to continue slavery ?

On a purely economic basis ?

[EliSnow]

But if Europe was ant-slavery, as they had abolished it earlier, why would they then fight on the side that was trying to continue slavery ?

On a purely economic basis ?

Well, the Civil War wasn't really about abolishing slavery until after the Proclamation had been made. The Civil War occurred because the South seceded from the Union. While slavery was an issue to the South's secession, it's not like they seceded because the North abolished slavery.

[JimBeam]

Back to the topic of the thread I cant believe this happened in 2 places.

The one in Milwakee baffles me.

Why do you just jump on random cars for no reason ?

At least there was some " rationale " to the other one, the accident, but the 2nd attack was plain animal like.

Strange that these things never occur in certain neighborhoods.

Can;t put my finger on the differing factors though.

[Ritalin]

When I read the title, I thought this was going to be another thread about ronfez.net and Earl.

[TheMojoPin]

Back to the topic of the thread I cant believe this happened in 2 places.

The one in Milwakee baffles me.

Why do you just jump on random cars for no reason ?

At least there was some " rationale " to the other one, the accident, but the 2nd attack was plain animal like.

Strange that these things never occur in certain neighborhoods.

Can;t put my finger on the differing factors though.

Yeah, me neither.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2000/playoffs/news/2000/06/19/la_violence_ap/lg_riots_ap_01.jpg

http://safetinspector.com/pix/riot.jpg

[S0S]

Juneteenth Celebrations Turn Violent (http://www.kpho.com/news/13544260/detail.html)

Man killed by crowd outside Juneteenth festivities (http://www.news8austin.com/content/your_news/default.asp?ArID=186495)

[Dougie Brootal]

already a thread

[Freakshow]

Did you wait until this was one post off the front page?
http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61067

locky
http://www.399animeshop.com/nana-key-lock-necklace.jpg

[Dougie Brootal]

http://myweb.kingnet.com.tw/kenshamrock/img/22731.jpg

[JPMNICK]

I think there are like 2 other threads on this.

[Bob Impact]

Did you wait until this was one post off the front page?
http://ronfez.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61067

locky
http://www.399animeshop.com/nana-key-lock-necklace.jpg

He waited till he heard it on the O&A replay.

[Bulldogcakes]

Well, the Civil War wasn't really about abolishing slavery until after the Proclamation had been made. The Civil War occurred because the South seceded from the Union. While slavery was an issue to the South's secession, it's not like they seceded because the North abolished slavery.

Sort of. Most of the tensions between the North and South that led to secession were over slavery issues. Lets not act like the Missouri Compromise was incidental in U.S. history. The final straw was Lincoln's election, who southerners saw as an abolitionist. So slavery was the foremost issue between the two that led to the Civil War.

I think a more fair way to put it is secession was the final straw for both sides, the issue that caused it was slavery.



The Proclamation was the last straw, but it was one straw on several others.

True, but there are always issues between states, even till today. Are you saying that even if slavery was not an issue, they still would have seceded? I don't think thats true at all.

[SatCam]

did someone say angry mob?

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/GregoryPeck_Mockingbird.jpg

[El Mudo]

Actually, I read that Britain and France were not likely to send aid in any event. First with regard to the south's exports, at first Europe had a cotton suprlus, and then when they faced a shortage, it was temporary and was provided by cotton from Egypt and India.

Second, grain exports from the North were also important to Britain because of crop failures in 1860-62.

The Proclamation was the last straw, but it was one straw on several others.




There was a LOT of loyalty to the South in Britain...especially after the Trent affair (where the US Navy illegally boarded a British steamer to arrest two confederate diplomats, James Mason and John Slidell, who were on board...you can read up on that here
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Affair) ). And there were other issues in the mid 19th century that hadn't really endeared the US Government to a lot of the British people (see "54-40 or Fight" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_boundary_dispute))


Also, as terribly as the war went for the Federals during the first two/two and a half years, could you really blame Britain for not wanting to back a loser? Plus, it would probably be more beneficial for the British economically to have two countries to trade with rather than one. The British even went so far as to harbor and even build ships for the Confederacy (like the Shenandoah and the Alabama), which led to a settlement being paid after the war by the British government for lost shipping suffered by the US, and that's a big reason why a lot of people think the US would have invaded Canada and fought the British if they had ended up losing the war


Most people believe the French were just waiting for Britain to make one move one way or the other, although it would have been beneficial for the French to have a southern victory, as it would have helped them in their designs on the Southwest (they conquered Mexico in 1863, and may have ended up going a lot farther)