View Full Version : Is it "Neurotic" to lock your doors at night?
angrymissy
06-28-2007, 03:59 PM
Jeff has just told me that I am neurotic because I insist on locking the doors at night.
I say - normal people lock doors at night.
Are you "living in fear" if you lock your doors at night?
Friday
06-28-2007, 04:01 PM
I like to think of it as.... Living in Reality.
Marc with a c
06-28-2007, 04:02 PM
no.
especially on long island
Fallon
06-28-2007, 04:02 PM
This ain't Canada Jeff!!
Isn't he afraid someone might break in and steal his bacon, egg and mayo sandwich?
Alice S. Fuzzybutt
06-28-2007, 04:02 PM
Where the hell does Jeff live? 1955?
Of COURSE you lock your doors!
angrymissy
06-28-2007, 04:06 PM
He claims that it is not going to stop someone from committing a crime, just because your door is locked.
Fat_Sunny
06-28-2007, 04:06 PM
Jeff has just told me that I am neurotic because I insist on locking the doors at night.
If Your Husband Is Who F_S Thinks He Is, Then He Is Shocked By Your Statement. That Boy Has Demonstrated More Than A Handful Of Neuroses; The Fact That He's Calling You Neurotic For Wanting To Lock Doors At Night, Is, Well Incredible!!
Anway, F_S Lives In The Safest Town In The Safest County In NJ With No Crime. He Leaves The Doors Unlocked All Day, But At Night, It Is Lock-Down Time! It Is Only Common Sense!!
Fallon
06-28-2007, 04:07 PM
He claims that it is not going to stop someone from committing a crime, just because your door is locked.
That's true. If they want to come in, they'll make their way in. But it does stop someone who's trying to be quite and not make noise.
angrymissy
06-28-2007, 04:09 PM
That's true. If they want to come in, they'll make their way in. But it does stop someone who's trying to be quite and not make noise.
This is also my point, they are not going to be able to be quiet about it if the door is locked. At least you would be alerted to the fact that someone was trying to break in.
Hottub
06-28-2007, 04:09 PM
Yes, I lock my doors at night. But sometimes I wonder why.
All you would really need to do is break a small pane of glass, reach in, and undo the deadbolt.
Oh well.
Fallon
06-28-2007, 04:11 PM
Yeah, I don't understand glass doors.
feralBoy
06-28-2007, 04:18 PM
He claims that it is not going to stop someone from committing a crime, just because your door is locked.
My gym teacher used to always say, "lock's don't keep criminals from being criminals, they keep innocent people innocent."
Anyway, it's a deterrent, and if someone does try to break in, you'll probably hear it, or a neighbor may see it/hear it.
JPMNICK
06-28-2007, 04:25 PM
I live in suburbs and I lock my doors at night. And I think it does keep people from breaking in. Unless they cased your house or KNEW of something inside, chances are they picked your house at random. if you door is locked, they might try a few other houses with unlocked doors or windows.
lleeder
06-28-2007, 04:28 PM
My gym teacher used to always say, "lock's don't keep criminals from being criminals, they keep innocent people innocent."
Anyway, it's a deterrent, and if someone does try to break in, you'll probably hear it, or a neighbor may see it/hear it.
I never remembered what my gym teacher said I was too busy getting free money and calculators. Wanna buy a TI-82?
Don Stugots
06-28-2007, 04:31 PM
no, locking your doors normal. i put the deadbolt and chain on. i also never open the window on the fire escape side. best offense is a good defense.
Of course I lock my doors at night.
Does Jeff think it's neurotic to wash your hands before you eat or to put a seat belt on when driving?
It's not an intense, illogical fear that causes me to do these things, it's common sense. If you have the ability to minimize potential harm to yourself, who wouldn't do it?
MadMatt
06-28-2007, 04:33 PM
Only at night? My doors are locked at all times!
If I am in the room I may leave just the screen door exposed so I can get some fresh air, but otherwise those puppies are locked.
Of course I am neurotic & paranoid, so there you go.
Alice S. Fuzzybutt
06-28-2007, 04:35 PM
I admit-- if I'm running to the corner store or throwing out trash, I may not lock my apt door (which is compressed saw dust). I rely on the main door to our apt bldg.
If someone is willing to come up to the third floor, break the door down, and try to kill me, I would hope my neighbors would help. BUT every extra second I get from the dead bolts and crappy chain gives me time to call 911.
Why make it easier for them?
prothunderball
06-28-2007, 04:37 PM
Even if it's not really going to stop something from happening, I just can't think of a reason not to lock you doors at night. It's not like it takes a long time is a hard process to go through, it's a 10 second thing that could potentially prevent something bad from happening.
FMJeff
06-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Ok two things.
1) For those of you from New Jersey, we live in the equivalent of Freehold Township. Not Boro. Township. We live at the very southern tip of the island, on the water. While we are 5-10 minutes from Amityville and Copiague where incidents of home invasion are more prevalent, the area where I live specifically is as quiet as any middle class community in central Monmouth County.
2) A person capable of walking into a stranger's home with the intention of robbing or hurting you will not be deterred by a lock door. More often than not, people do not actively lock their windows or back doors, which he is most likely to try next if he intends on a silent entry. More often than not, people have solid glass sliding doors in the back of thier home that are closed by a simple sliding latch, easily forced. After that, if he wants in, he's getting in regardless. Smash a window, kick the sliding glass door in, cut a screen...whatever. A basic residential home is designed to meet BASIC security standards and is no way effective in repelling an exterior attack.
Now, if you want to invest in motion sensors, glass break sensors, magnetic trip alarms, CCV monitoring and whatever other goodies your local alarm company wants to sell you, maybe I'd agree with you...but you're not going to sell me on a simple, stupid bolt lock on your front door keeps you safe from anybody.
angrymissy
06-28-2007, 04:40 PM
Ok two things.
1) For those of you from New Jersey, we live in the equivalent of Freehold Township. Not Boro. Township. We live at the very southern tip of the island, on the water. While we are 5-10 minutes from Amityville and Copiague where incidents of home invasion are more prevalent, the area where I live specifically is as quiet as any middle class community in central Monmouth County.
2) A person capable of walking into a stranger's home with the intention of robbing or hurting you will not be deterred by a lock door. More often than not, people do not actively lock their windows or back doors, which he is most likely to try next if he intends on a silent entry. More often than not, people have solid glass sliding doors in the back of thier home that are closed by a simple sliding latch, easily forced. After that, if he wants in, he's getting in regardless. Smash a window, kick the sliding glass door in, cut a screen...whatever. A basic residential home is designed to meet BASIC security standards and is no way effective in repelling an exterior attack.
Now, if you want to invest in motion sensors, glass break sensors, magnetic trip alarms, CCV monitoring and whatever other goodies your local alarm company wants to sell you, maybe I'd agree with you...but you're not going to sell me on a simple, stupid bolt lock on your front door keeps you safe from anybody.
Normal people lock their doors. It's not neurotic. At least if someone has to kick the glass door in, its going to make a lot of noise and alert neighbors and anyone inside the house. If it's unlocked they can get in quietly.
FMJeff
06-28-2007, 04:43 PM
I'd also like to think I can live on Long Island in a good neighborhood without wondering who's going to break into my home. If I can't do that, I don't want to live here. I think every time you lock your front door, for that split second, a blip of worry creeps into your soul and I don't think it leaves.
Don't get me wrong. I would NEVER do this if I lived in the city or an apartment. This is the kind of mindset one can only have if you live in a single family home.
King Hippos Bandaid
06-28-2007, 04:44 PM
at my Parents house, the Door is never loacked , which I am cool with
In my Apt. Wifey will Yell at me both Locks arent locked
Do I think its extreme a lil, yeah, but i can understand hey Lets Keep out Strangers and bad People
:king:
angrymissy
06-28-2007, 04:48 PM
I'd also like to think I can live on Long Island in a good neighborhood without wondering who's going to break into my home. If I can't do that, I don't want to live here. I think every time you lock your front door, for that split second, a blip of worry creeps into your soul and I don't think it leaves.
Suffolk county only, even nicer areas (the nicer areas are targeted more often)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22home+invasion%22+%22long+island%22+%2Bsuffolk
FMJeff
06-28-2007, 04:48 PM
Normal people lock their doors. It's not neurotic. At least if someone has to kick the glass door in, its going to make a lot of noise and alert neighbors and anyone inside the house. If it's unlocked they can get in quietly.
You think neighbors care about anything? When's the last time you saw someone running when they heard the "GAH GAH GAH WOOO WOOO EEE EEE" of a car alarm gone crazy?
How about on our OWN street Missy, across the road, where the husband and wife beat the shit out of each other. What do we do? Laugh and call them white trash. (Which they are.)
When I lived in Manalapan, our neighbor's house was broken into by some girl's boyfriend who cheated on him. He ransacked the place. The house alarm was blaring. Nobody lifted a finger.
People don't care. They'll only care when it disturbs their own peace of mind.
You don't think I can enter this house quietly with the doors locked? How about the age old trick of taking a towel or heavy cloth, placing it over the strike area to muffle the noise and smashing it with a hammer? Open window and easy access.
Has a locked door prevented ANY car thief from stealing your car?
Locks are an ILLUSION of safety. The worst kind, really. A determined criminal can circumvent anything....
cupcakelove
06-28-2007, 04:49 PM
No, my door won't stay shut without the bolt locked, so its locked most of the time.
Fat_Sunny
06-28-2007, 04:52 PM
How About This: A Locked Door Is Gonna Mean The Intruder Has To Fiddle Around More And Make More Noise, Which Is Gonna Get Your Dog Barking Earlier To Either Scare Him Off Or Wake You Up In Time?
Jeff, by your logic the United States shouldn't even bother having a military because 9/11 demonstrated that determined terrorists can still wreak havoc.
We should just lay down our weapons because anyone can do whatever they want whenever they want.
I also disagree with your assertion that as soon as you lock your doors a bit of worry creeps in that never goes away. It's second nature to me to lock the doors before I go to bed. I don't even think about it. Same way I don't consciously think about locking my car when I go into a store. It's just something I automatically do.
FMJeff
06-28-2007, 04:58 PM
Jeff, by your logic the United States shouldn't even bother having a military because 9/11 demonstrated that determined terrorists can still wreak havoc.
We should just lay down our weapons because anyone can do whatever they want whenever they want.
I also disagree with your assertion that as soon as you lock your doors a bit of worry creeps in that never goes away. It's second nature to me to lock the doors before I go to bed. I don't even think about it. Same way I don't consciously think about locking my car when I go into a store. It's just something I automatically do.
Well, if you want to expand the debate to that extreme, I think you can agree with me that having a military of our size was certainly no deterrent to the terrorists whatsoever. Actually, it kind of proves my point, that even with our most advanced technology and manpower, a handful of well-funded guerilla fighters took out several of our supreme buildings before our military even knew what was going on.
Illusions of security people. The military is a broadsword. A door is a broadsword. It's the same thing.
drjoek
06-28-2007, 05:07 PM
In this day and age locking your doors seems like the least you can do. Alarm on at night while your home may be overdoing it but not locking doors Just my opinion
mdr55
06-28-2007, 05:11 PM
If THOSE people moved in next door........would you change your mind and lock the door?
Fezticle98
06-28-2007, 05:21 PM
I don't accept the premise that a locked door is not a deterrent. I think that criminals will look for targets of opportunity. Home invasions are the most publicized kind of burglary, but are probably the least common. Thieves will go for the easiest target, an unoccupied home, preferrably unlocked. Sure, you can't stop every criminal by locking your door, but why invite in the ones who would be deterred?
Enough of this false sense of freedom bullshit about not locking your doors at night.
sailor
06-28-2007, 05:24 PM
i'm confused by this "at night" nonsense. doors are locked at all times.
MadMatt
06-28-2007, 05:42 PM
FMJeff, AngryMissy:
Look, one of has to change or avatar or one of you has to stop posting. That's all there is to it.
OK - resume your public arguement
**cough**Jeffiswrong**cough**
MadMatt
06-28-2007, 05:43 PM
i'm confused by this "at night" nonsense. doors are locked at all times.
THANK YOU!!! That's what I said!
Fezticle98
06-28-2007, 05:46 PM
My gym teacher used to always say, "lock's don't keep criminals from being criminals, they keep innocent people innocent."
Anyway, it's a deterrent, and if someone does try to break in, you'll probably hear it, or a neighbor may see it/hear it.
My drill sergeant once found my footlocker unlocked and said if it wasn't for dickheads like me, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world.
I showed him.
lleeder
06-28-2007, 05:55 PM
Motherfuckers better know. Lock your windows close ya doors. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=waBdx1mgUaA&mode=related&search=)
SHANEFROMGA
06-28-2007, 05:58 PM
i lock my doors, have an alarm system, 3 dogs, 2 cats, leave toys in the floor to trip up invaders, make my wife wear a chastaty belt and i put i cork in my ass before i go to sleep.
you can never be to safe these days. okay the cork is for my own amusement, but still!!
sailor
06-28-2007, 06:53 PM
THANK YOU!!! That's what I said!
yeah, i didn't have time to read all the posts before. anything other than locked doors at all times is insanity. like, are you too lazy to turn the lock when you walk in? i don't get it.
i have two big dogs, and i'm pretty sure they'd hear someone coming in the door at night. however, i am CERTAIN that they'd hear someone breaking a window or the door, so i def lock it.
in fact, i lock it partially to protect people who could come in (possibly even by accident) from getting bitten
My drill sergeant once found my footlocker unlocked and said if it wasn't for dickheads like me, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world.
I showed him.
http://www.bullwinkleblog.com/wp-content/photos/sadr.jpg
Fallon
06-28-2007, 07:12 PM
If Jeff had his way:
http://arsjerm.net/misc/kramer_door.gif
JPMNICK
06-28-2007, 07:20 PM
Well, if you want to expand the debate to that extreme, I think you can agree with me that having a military of our size was certainly no deterrent to the terrorists whatsoever. Actually, it kind of proves my point, that even with our most advanced technology and manpower, a handful of well-funded guerilla fighters took out several of our supreme buildings before our military even knew what was going on.
Illusions of security people. The military is a broadsword. A door is a broadsword. It's the same thing.
do you lock your car door at the mall?
sailor
06-28-2007, 07:23 PM
so because deterrents aren't fool-proof we shouldn't take any, jeff?
feralBoy
06-28-2007, 07:42 PM
I never remembered what my gym teacher said I was too busy getting free money and calculators. Wanna buy a TI-82?
Stealing a man's money is one thing. Stealing a man's graphing calculator is just lowdown.
PapaBear
06-28-2007, 07:47 PM
I mentioned this in a thread a few weeks ago. About two years ago, a local 14 year old kid stabbed a man to death, and injured his wife, before he was caught. It was in a very safe and rural neighborhood. When asked why he chose that house to break into, he said it was the only one that was unlocked. He quietly walked in, got a knife from the kitchen, and started stabbing. He didn't even know them, or rob them.
Keep in mind... This is an area that has between 5 and 20 murders a year, tops. Almost all of those are domestic in nature.
FMJeff
06-28-2007, 07:50 PM
so because deterrents aren't fool-proof we shouldn't take any, jeff?
You do what you want. I lock my car doors at the mall. It's all context though. Cars are a smaller target. A thief can see inside, they know what to expect, they know what loot they can grab. It's less a danger to the owner and the thief to rob a car.
But walking into someone's home. That's a different animal alltogether. You see someone reaching through an open car window to steal your purse, it's a petty robbery. You see someone rummaging through your house, its an attack on your family, a potentially fatal encounter.
Plus I know my neighborhood. My car goes with me wherever I go.
Look, I know few of you will agree with me. To admit your safety is out of your control and up to the fates to decide makes you feel vulnerable. It's why this country spends more on its national defense than any other in the world. It's why we drive huge cars built like tanks. The big missles don't make us any less vulnerable to danger than the Explorers and the Hummers of the world. If a danger wants in, it's coming in, and ultimately it's out of your hands. That's just how I feel.
Don Stugots
06-28-2007, 07:55 PM
i see Jeff's point but I lock the windows and doors for peace of mind. every night i go to work and regina is home alone and making sure the door is locked with the deadbolt right after i leave is for my benefit more than hers.
SatCam
06-28-2007, 07:59 PM
do you lock your car door at the mall?
green acres mall?
JPMNICK
06-28-2007, 08:01 PM
green acres mall?
I lock my door when I drive past that place
torker
06-28-2007, 08:01 PM
My backdoor is always open.
Jeff, I agree that a determined thief is going to bypass locks, alarms, whatever to get in. However, locking the doors at night may give you the time you need to call the cops or grab a weapon.
Some defense is better than no defense.
If someone is willing to come up to the third floor, break the door down, and try to kill me, I would hope my neighbors would help. BUT every extra second I get from the dead bolts and crappy chain gives me time to call 911.
The cats will protect you.
FUNKMAN
06-29-2007, 06:58 AM
guess you have to admit you're locking your doors because you're afraid someone may enter and cause you harm , so yes there is the fear factor... but it's no biggie
an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure
sailor
06-29-2007, 07:10 AM
To admit your safety is out of your control and up to the fates to decide makes you feel vulnerable. It's why this country spends more on its national defense than any other in the world.
why would that only apply to us. sounds like you're saying it's human nature.
Some defense is better than no defense.
yeah, that's basically what i was trying to say.
ralphbxny
06-29-2007, 07:58 AM
There is no way you shouldnt lock up at night. I work in Jersey City, Live in Brooklyn and was raised in the Bronx by a Puerto Rican family....because of all of those I have a lock on everything.
FMJeff
06-29-2007, 08:10 AM
Jeff, I agree that a determined thief is going to bypass locks, alarms, whatever to get in. However, locking the doors at night may give you the time you need to call the cops or grab a weapon.
Some defense is better than no defense.
Unless you have a panic room I doubt you'll be able to call anybody. As for grabbing a weapon, that's my point. Here you are forced to defend yourself because your stupid door lock failed.
Some of you actually think the locking process is like activating a force field. You know how easy it is to kick in most doors in a single family home?
I agree some defense is better than no defense but some defense is usually not a defense at all.
angrymissy
06-29-2007, 08:13 AM
The point of this post was that you said I was "neurotic" for locking my doors, and acted like EVERYONE keeps their doors unlocked. Not whether or not you are truly safe if your door is locked.
I think I have proved my point. I'm not "neurotic" or crazy for wanting to keep the doors locked.
My sister sleeps with a fucking machete under her bed AND locks the door. I pity the person that busts into the front door and finds her waiting with a machete
Fat_Sunny
06-29-2007, 08:22 AM
Bottom Line: This Is One Of Those Little Issues That Is Not Worth Fighting About.
It Doesn't Cost You Anything To Lock The Doors, And It Makes The Missus Happy, So You Just Lock The Doors. Save The Arguments For The Big Stuff! IFHO.
FUNKMAN
06-29-2007, 01:26 PM
The point of this post was that you said I was "neurotic" for locking my doors, and acted like EVERYONE keeps their doors unlocked. Not whether or not you are truly safe if your door is locked.
I think I have proved my point. I'm not "neurotic" or crazy for wanting to keep the doors locked.
My sister sleeps with a fucking machete under her bed AND locks the door. I pity the person that busts into the front door and finds her waiting with a machete
when i was a teenager sitting on my stoop in jersey city i looked across the street and there were these two short, drunk, shirtless peurto rican men having a machete fight. one guy swung his machete and didn't even come close to catching the other guy and he almost fell down. he gained his balance, they gave each other a dirty look and one guy started chasing the other guy down the street and as quick as they came they were gone...
sorry, your machete story just brought that memory back. at the time it was a little shocking but now it's just funny as heck...
sailor
06-29-2007, 01:38 PM
Bottom Line: This Is One Of Those Little Issues That Is Not Worth Fighting About.
It Doesn't Cost You Anything To Lock The Doors, And It Makes The Missus Happy, So You Just Lock The Doors. Save The Arguments For The Big Stuff! IFHO.
took me a minute to figure out ifho. damn brilliant.
FMJeff
06-29-2007, 02:49 PM
The point of this post was that you said I was "neurotic" for locking my doors, and acted like EVERYONE keeps their doors unlocked. Not whether or not you are truly safe if your door is locked.
I think I have proved my point. I'm not "neurotic" or crazy for wanting to keep the doors locked.
My sister sleeps with a fucking machete under her bed AND locks the door. I pity the person that busts into the front door and finds her waiting with a machete
I too own a machete, my love. Nobody's touching my chaw without losing a limb first.
Tenbatsuzen
06-29-2007, 03:28 PM
I too own a machete, my love. Nobody's touching my chaw without losing a limb first.
Jeff, I have multiple weapons too, and I lock everything up. I know you live in a relatively peaceful area, but it's crazy not to lock up.
King Hippos Bandaid
06-29-2007, 03:30 PM
Gotta give Jeff Credit
Eating Mayo on His Egg Breakfast Sandwiches while having the Doors Unlocked from the Night before. He beats to his own Drum. Not on the popular end of Polls, but he Sticks by his choices
:king:
MellySmelly
06-29-2007, 03:38 PM
Three locks on the front door, two locks on the back door. I don't lock them during the day, but always before I go to bed.
Hottub
06-29-2007, 03:48 PM
So lock up your daughter
Lock up your wife
Lock up your back door
And run for your life
The Tub is back in town
So don't you mess me 'round
Bulldogcakes
06-29-2007, 04:12 PM
My sister sleeps with a fucking machete under her bed AND locks the door. I pity the person that busts into the front door and finds her waiting with a machete
Unless of course, he has a gun.
I understand Jeff's point that doors only provide minimal protection, and he's right about that. If you're really worried about this you should have layers of protection. A locked door, a noisy pooch, a gun, and a husband more manly than Jeff.
But it happens less often than you might realize, and usually when the owners aren't home. Often times they are "inside jobs" so never tell your neighbor if you're going on vacation. Even if you trust her, she blabs to somebody you don't know and the next thing you know your house is sacked.
Thebazile78
06-29-2007, 04:48 PM
Jeff has just told me that I am neurotic because I insist on locking the doors at night.
I say - normal people lock doors at night.
Are you "living in fear" if you lock your doors at night?
Jeff has obviously never lived in New Brunswick.
Or driven through Paterson.
Or lived in Little Falls, which is right near Paterson.
Or commuted to Newark.
Even when I visit at Dad's, which is in the middle of fucking nowhere with deer and bears and woods, I lock my car doors. Dad, on the other hand, doesn't.
Andomray
06-29-2007, 05:48 PM
Due to living in Newark and having my car stolen, my level of paranoia has raised to a disturbingly high level. I lock every door wherever I go, and check the doorknob/car door handle after knowing that I've locked the doors.
The question is...if your house was broken into, would you continue to keep the doors unlocked, or would you really even notice at all if the thief was neat about the job?
Don Stugots
06-29-2007, 05:59 PM
Jeff has obviously never lived in New Brunswick.
Or driven through Paterson.
Or lived in Little Falls, which is right near Paterson.
Or commuted to Newark.
Even when I visit at Dad's, which is in the middle of fucking nowhere with deer and bears and woods, I lock my car doors. Dad, on the other hand, doesn't.
my sister in PA leaves the keys to car in the ignition and they never lock the doors or windows. granted no one is comeing in but a deer and bear might. weird.
sailor
06-29-2007, 06:17 PM
Three locks on the front door, two locks on the back door. I don't lock them during the day, but always before I go to bed.
what's the reasoning behind not locking the doors during the day? does it take too long to open when you want to go out? not being sarcastic, i'm just really curious as i know a lot of the folks are like that.
Due to living in Newark and having my car stolen, my level of paranoia has raised to a disturbingly high level. I lock every door wherever I go, and check the doorknob/car door handle after knowing that I've locked the doors.
just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you (couldn't help myself)
grlNIN
06-29-2007, 06:19 PM
Oh baby, lock three times before you go to beeeeeeed.
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/999/n26tx4.jpg
Andomray
06-29-2007, 06:22 PM
just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you (couldn't help myself)
Guess who isn't sleeping tonight!
FMJeff
06-29-2007, 07:17 PM
Jeff has obviously never lived in New Brunswick.
Or driven through Paterson.
Or lived in Little Falls, which is right near Paterson.
Or commuted to Newark.
Even when I visit at Dad's, which is in the middle of fucking nowhere with deer and bears and woods, I lock my car doors. Dad, on the other hand, doesn't.
I had two clients in Paterson and Neward whom I visited frequently, worked in Jersey City, taught public school in Perth Amboy and grew up with friends in Staten Island and Brooklyn.
I know where I can lock my doors and where I can't. I'm not that fucking stupid.
Don Stugots
06-29-2007, 07:22 PM
why you hatin' on Brooklyn fo'?
FMJeff
06-29-2007, 07:22 PM
Due to living in Newark and having my car stolen, my level of paranoia has raised to a disturbingly high level. I lock every door wherever I go, and check the doorknob/car door handle after knowing that I've locked the doors.
The question is...if your house was broken into, would you continue to keep the doors unlocked, or would you really even notice at all if the thief was neat about the job?
I know where everything is in my house. The only thing of value are my computers and my televisions. My taste in clothes are pathetic, my wife's shoes are easily replaceable. We have no jewelry between us of any value. There are no keepsakes, mementos, or antiques. I hate clutter, uni-taskers and generally unnecessary items around my house and tend to live a very minimalist lifestyle.
There's nothing I couldn't buy at Target again if I had to and my house insurance would cover pretty much anything of value that would sting the wallet.
The only thing that means anything to me in this house is the Pronto, and I would search the ends of the earth until I found him, going mad in the process.
FMJeff
06-29-2007, 07:25 PM
what's the reasoning behind not locking the doors during the day? does it take too long to open when you want to go out? not being sarcastic, i'm just really curious as i know a lot of the folks are like that.
just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you (couldn't help myself)
Again, no "practical" reason for it. It's really a matter of principle. I'd like to think there's at least SOME areas in this country where I can go to sleep not worrying about someone entering my house illegally. Otherwise, I have to live in fear everywhere, and I'm not willing to do that. I think I earned that right, through hard work, not to have to deal with the anxiety those in Paterson, Perth Amboy, and Newark feel, to quote the cities of an earlier poster.
CofyCrakCocaine
06-29-2007, 07:43 PM
Perhaps the neurosis here is that you lock the door and then lie down thinking about who is going to break into your house.
I always keep a bat near my bed. But it's more in case of zombie apocalypses than it is intended for home invaders. The undead don't wield guns that make my bat primitive and ineffective. Go Mets!
sailor
06-30-2007, 03:43 AM
There's nothing I couldn't buy at Target again if I had to and my house insurance would cover pretty much anything of value that would sting the wallet.
would your insurance policy cover if you left the doors unlocked? might want to look into that. they might say it was your fault.
Again, no "practical" reason for it. It's really a matter of principle. I'd like to think there's at least SOME areas in this country where I can go to sleep not worrying about someone entering my house illegally. Otherwise, I have to live in fear everywhere, and I'm not willing to do that. I think I earned that right, through hard work, not to have to deal with the anxiety those in Paterson, Perth Amboy, and Newark feel, to quote the cities of an earlier poster.
actually, my question wasn't directed at you, but rather the folks who leave the doors unlocked during the day and lock them at night. that's more insane to me than your policy of always leaving them unlocked.
Tenbatsuzen
06-30-2007, 04:30 AM
The only thing that means anything to me in this house is the Pronto, and I would search the ends of the earth until I found him, going mad in the process.
Missy, comment?
DonInNC
06-30-2007, 04:44 AM
I hate being behind locked doors, but I lock up at night because my wife feels safer that way. I don't lock the door to the garage, and the garage door itself is technically not locked, so I can deal.
Fat_Sunny
06-30-2007, 08:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FMJeff
The only thing that means anything to me in this house is the Pronto, and I would search the ends of the earth until I found him, going mad in the process.
TBS: Missy, comment?
Others Noticed That As Well, But Were Too Tactful Too Say Anything.:D
cougarjake13
06-30-2007, 11:04 AM
i say no its not nuerotic
you just might have some wacko who walks around trying doors and seeing if they're open and creating a crime of opportunity
Tenbatsuzen
06-30-2007, 02:38 PM
Others Noticed That As Well, But Were Too Tactful Too Say Anything.:D
"TBS"? That's a new one.
And in the five years of me posting on this board, people should know that tact and subtlety are not my strong points.
angrymissy
09-10-2008, 05:45 PM
After a week of random home invasions on S. LI, a house was hit, on the water, 5 or 6 streets to the West of us. THEY GOT IN THROUGH AN UNLOCKED DOOR.
GreatAmericanZero
09-10-2008, 05:50 PM
i think doors should be locked, and i try to always keep my door locked
but i forget sometimes. and i feel bad about it
so you should lock your doors, but i dont think its healthy to fear missing a night or two
KatPw
09-10-2008, 05:50 PM
After a week of random home invasions on S. LI, a house was hit, on the water, 5 or 6 streets to the West of us. THEY GOT IN THROUGH AN UNLOCKED DOOR.
I just saw that on Newsday. Fucked up. My boss said that it's because the economy is getting worse, who knows.
PapaBear
09-10-2008, 05:50 PM
After a week of random home invasions on S. LI, a house was hit, on the water, 5 or 6 streets to the West of us. THEY GOT IN THROUGH AN UNLOCKED DOOR.
That's just like what happened in my other post in this thread. The kid killed a guy with the victim's own kitchen knife. When the cops asked the kid why he chose that house, he said he had tried a couple of other houses, and this was the first one that had an unlocked door.
Marc with a c
09-10-2008, 05:51 PM
jeff needs to stop shirking his responsibilities
Friday
09-10-2008, 05:51 PM
UGH.
the new neighbors upstairs have kids and they all leave the front door unlocked.
the FRONT DOOR.
granted, we live in a very safe neighborhood and even have our own police station for a town that is just one mile squared.
but that does not make me more comfortable with the fact that i come home at night (or the morning) to an unlocked front door.
:sad:
TheMojoPin
09-10-2008, 05:52 PM
Jeff is mentally unstable.
He might be trying to set you up for some kind of diabolical revenge in the off chance the marriage goes south and he's kicked out.
God forbid.
Marc with a c
09-10-2008, 05:53 PM
why should jeff lock the doors, when you never leave the house?
angrymissy
09-10-2008, 06:04 PM
I've now received the ok for a security system. NO ONE IS TAKING MY VIDEO GAMES DAMMIT.
Devo37
09-10-2008, 06:11 PM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/Devo37/pyle-hartman.jpg
HARTMAN: Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that, don't you?
PYLE: Sir, yes, sir!
HARTMAN: If it wasn't for dickheads like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?
PYLE: Sir, no, sir!
Locking the door is silly.
Friday
09-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Locking the door is silly.
:wallbash:
TheMojoPin
09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Note to self: ROB EPO.
angrymissy
09-10-2008, 06:29 PM
Locking the door is silly.
Location: Wisconsin
TheMojoPin
09-10-2008, 06:33 PM
Note to self: ROB WISCONSIN.
RoseBlood
09-10-2008, 06:34 PM
Note to Mojo: There are cops on this board
Note to self: ROB WISCONSIN.
Note to Mojo: There are cops on this board
http://foros.eluniversal.com.mx/blogs/imagenes/Nelson_Muntz_rie2.jpg
TheMojoPin
09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
Note to cops: FUCK THE POLICE.
RoseBlood
09-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Note to cops: FUCK ME PLEASE.
That's what you really meant to say.
TheMojoPin
09-10-2008, 06:39 PM
Hot cops only.
Nobody on this board apply.
BURN.
nukinfuts
09-10-2008, 06:45 PM
He claims that it is not going to stop someone from committing a crime, just because your door is locked.
I truly believe that if you are not home then yes they are going to get in no matter what. My house was broken into about 8 years ago and they tore the door off of the frame kicking in the back door only for my neighbors to call the police and they caught the little asses that did it. They had broken into about 10 houses in my neighborhood so at least I got my stuff back but it was still creepy and of course what can you do about the fact your sense of security is gone after that happen. I do think if you lock your doors at night then at least you have a better chance of hearing someone coming in then if they sneak in and then you find them standing over you.
Space Edge
09-10-2008, 07:21 PM
Locking your doors at night is normal. My brother in law will lock all the doors in his house even when there are people in it in the middle of the day. For some reason he is extremely paranoid and dosen't realize that if someone were going to break into his house they would just break a window.
jennysmurf
09-10-2008, 07:59 PM
My car was "broken into" a few years ago, but since I had left the passenger side door unlocked accidentally, the police didn't even make a report. Would the same kind of thing apply if the door was unlocked with a house break in? I mean, would your insurance take that into account?
razorboy
09-10-2008, 09:48 PM
My back french doors are double-paned security glass and all of my doors are double key deadbolted, and I check all of them each night. I even lock my bedroom door. It might have to do with my living on a relatively busy street, it might have to do with my living alone in a relatively large house and it might have to do with my house being broken into twice (once by a thief while I was at home and asleep, and the other time while I was away, albeit by an ex-girlfriend of mine), but I don't think locking and double-checking your doors is neurotic at all.
Bob Impact
09-11-2008, 01:10 AM
No, I lock doors and set the alarm.
ScottFromGA
09-11-2008, 02:55 AM
won't stop them from stealing, but it sure makes a lot of noise when trying to bust through the door.
its kinda like my Dad and watching the news and skies when Tornado Warnings are out....he says," Why is everyone so paranoid, if its gonna hit you its gonna hit you."
Like I say, "At least I know its coming so I have a chance.....I'm not gonna let something just come and hit me cause of the "its gonna happen if it wants to" theory."
My chick makes fun of me sometimes because I lock everything. All my windows are locked and secured, balcony door sealed and locked (in case Spider-man wants to rob me), the front door I lock the deadbolt and put the chain on however I leave the doorknob unlocked so I can hear if someone is trying to get in. I live in one of the safest towns in the US, but it only takes one time.
Ritalin
09-11-2008, 03:48 AM
I used to have a weird OCD-ish thing where I would get up and check the lock on the door like 5 times a night. Sometimes I would sleep on the couch. It was pretty bad.
Then we got a dog and it went away.
"I keep the door open to encourage intruders"
http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/seinfeld_episode049_337x233_040420061508(1).jpg
After a week of random home invasions on S. LI, a house was hit, on the water, 5 or 6 streets to the West of us. THEY GOT IN THROUGH AN UNLOCKED DOOR.
Protect Jeff and Missy Pronto!
I lock the doors in case I'm attacked.
http://www.top40db.net/images/Artists/J/Joe%20Walsh.jpg
nukinfuts
09-11-2008, 03:28 PM
My car was "broken into" a few years ago, but since I had left the passenger side door unlocked accidentally, the police didn't even make a report. Would the same kind of thing apply if the door was unlocked with a house break in? I mean, would your insurance take that into account?
You have to check your insurance policy, my homeowner's policy states it will cover forced entry.I can't believe they wouldn't do a report because the passenger side was unlocked. That's bs...obviously they were going to break into your car either way.that's like saying a girl that dresses like a skank deserved to get raped.
britneypablo
09-11-2008, 05:05 PM
#1 i am a mean girl, and i live alone with my dog.....i can def see someone hating me and planning some sort of attack....my dog is literally to lazy to be a "pitbull" therefore she is not a good method of safety or in addition she is not even slightly an alert dog...
#2 the other day some girl accidently walked into my apartment when my door was unlocked and her 2 dogs came flying in going nuts....so i keep my door locked at all times now due to the fact i might have been jacking off which would have been more embarrassing then the way she felt for accidently walking in here.....
on second thought....i may keep them open during masturbation bc it could lead to something more interesting
but i do live in Cary NC and im not sure but there might be a black person who lives nearby so i probably should keep my doors locked because they might break in and steal my tv
TheMojoPin
09-11-2008, 05:12 PM
#2 the other day some girl accidently walked into my apartment when my door was unlocked and her 2 dogs came flying in going nuts....so i keep my door locked at all times now due to the fact i might have been jacking off which would have been more embarrassing then the way she felt for accidently walking in here.....
You're such a dude.
RoseBlood
09-11-2008, 05:15 PM
She once confessed she had a very big clit, so maybe she was able to jack- off :huh::blink::wacko:
britneypablo
09-11-2008, 05:20 PM
You're such a dude.
one of these days im going to show up to an event and you are all going to be surprised that it is not a penis that i have, it is just an overactive clit....and then while i say "I told you so" you will buy me drinks and also you will try to buy sex from me, but im a slut so i dont accept money and i will once again be insulted
until then
i will continue to lock my doors to keep the robbers and pervs out.....sometimes i could not remember if i locked my doors or not and i would make my boyfriend go double check....but now that im single again, i have to get up myself and check....what a drag
mikeyboy
09-11-2008, 05:22 PM
one of these days im going to show up to an event and you are all going to be surprised that it is not a penis that i have, it is just an overactive clit....and then while i say "I told you so" you will buy me drinks and also you will try to buy sex from me, but im a slut so i dont accept money and i will once again be insulted
Don't take it personally. No one on this board has ever seen Mojo in person. We're not even sure he's human.
britneypablo
09-11-2008, 05:26 PM
Don't take it personally. No one on this board has ever seen Mojo in person. We're not even sure he's human.
i only defend my womanhood because he is only one of the many (not the few) who call me a man every time i post....
so im tryin to somehow prove im female without naked pics....
sr71blackbird
09-11-2008, 05:32 PM
I lock and block the door
mikeyboy
09-11-2008, 05:37 PM
i only defend my womanhood because he is only one of the many (not the few) who call me a man every time i post....
so im tryin to somehow prove im female without naked pics....
If you posted a picture of yourself holding a sign that says "MOJO IS A TINY-DICKED MISANTHROPE WHO SECRETLY LOVES 80S HAIR METAL", that might be enough for most people.
TheMojoPin
09-11-2008, 05:38 PM
If you posted a picture of yourself holding a sign that says "MOJO IS A TINY-DICKED MISANTHROPE WHO SECRETLY LOVES 80S HAIR METAL", that might be enough for most people.
Don't make me ban you, Strong Island.
SatCam
09-11-2008, 05:51 PM
I lock and block the door
a loaded 12 gauge helps too
CofyCrakCocaine
09-11-2008, 06:16 PM
This thread makes me miss Fat_Sunny. Any of you fucks remember him? He had a name. Fuck if I know it- but ...fuck.
angrymissy
09-15-2008, 09:59 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-liinva135841166sep13,0,3788547.story
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer declined to reveal how police linked the suspects to the crimes, but he did say the burglars followed a distinct pattern: They targeted homes that had open windows or unlocked doors, struck in predawn hours and used masks and guns. They confronted victims in their bedrooms and tied them up before ransacking the homes.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-liinva135841166sep13,0,3788547.story
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer declined to reveal how police linked the suspects to the crimes, but he did say the burglars followed a distinct pattern: They targeted homes that had open windows or unlocked doors, struck in predawn hours and used masks and guns. They confronted victims in their bedrooms and tied them up before ransacking the homes.
I think you should leave a printed copy of this story on Jeff's pillow.
RAAMONE
09-15-2008, 10:06 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-liinva135841166sep13,0,3788547.story
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer declined to reveal how police linked the suspects to the crimes, but he did say the burglars followed a distinct pattern: They targeted homes that had open windows or unlocked doors, struck in predawn hours and used masks and guns. They confronted victims in their bedrooms and tied them up before ransacking the homes.
i find it funny that this is news
they're letting us know that:
burglars target unlocked houses
did it at night
disguised themselves
and used weapons
sr71blackbird
09-15-2008, 02:17 PM
It used to be that robbers never were armed and would not go into an occupied home. They feared that if caught, the sentence would be worse. Now it seems that these guys are going the complete opposite. I wonder why? Is it a terror kick?
ahhdurr
09-15-2008, 03:23 PM
Where does Jeff live again?
Gmann
09-15-2008, 03:55 PM
Dibs on the flatscreen in the living room.
CofyCrakCocaine
09-15-2008, 04:26 PM
I don't know I think maybe you should set up some red barrels full of something that explodes when hit by bullets at random spots throughout your house, just in case you need to inflict some splash damage on the 'truders
that's how i'd sleep at night
PapaBear
09-15-2008, 04:29 PM
It used to be that robbers never were armed and would not go into an occupied home. They feared that if caught, the sentence would be worse. Now it seems that these guys are going the complete opposite. I wonder why? Is it a terror kick?
With people there, you can intimidate them into telling you where stuff is and what pin codes are to ATMs.
Westley
09-15-2008, 04:34 PM
u r stupid if you DO NOT lock ur doors, everyone shoud have guns too
Snoogans
09-15-2008, 04:35 PM
u r stupid if you DO NOT lock ur doors, everyone shoud have guns too
i like this guy
and this poll is a tight one. Gonna go down to the wire
hydee
09-15-2008, 04:48 PM
Missy,
I answered no to your poll, but I have to admit I never lock my door. I even keep our back patio door open 3 seasons a year. Our cats enjoy the freedom. I live in Montreal, yes I know that Michael Moore painted an amazing picture of Canada but crime does happen.
I think locking your doors is something you have to do for you. Its 12 seconds of your time to feel safer and live happier so I don't think means you are living in fear. It means you just want to have your doors locked at night.
razorboy
09-15-2008, 05:38 PM
Missy,
I answered no to your poll, but I have to admit I never lock my door. I even keep our back patio door open 3 seasons a year. Our cats enjoy the freedom. I live in Montreal, yes I know that Michael Moore painted an amazing picture of Canada but crime does happen.
I think locking your doors is something you have to do for you. Its 12 seconds of your time to feel safer and live happier so I don't think means you are living in fear. It means you just want to have your doors locked at night.
But those Canadians are so damn polite while they are robbing you.
brettmojo
09-15-2008, 05:43 PM
So what are the locks for if we're not supposed to lock them?
Devo37
09-15-2008, 05:47 PM
Missy,
I answered no to your poll, but I have to admit I never lock my door. I even keep our back patio door open 3 seasons a year. Our cats enjoy the freedom. I live in Montreal, yes I know that Michael Moore painted an amazing picture of Canada but crime does happen.
I think locking your doors is something you have to do for you. Its 12 seconds of your time to feel safer and live happier so I don't think means you are living in fear. It means you just want to have your doors locked at night.
it takes you 12 seconds to lock your door?!? that must be some elaborate setup you got there!
Leticia
09-15-2008, 10:01 PM
After a week of random home invasions on S. LI, a house was hit, on the water, 5 or 6 streets to the West of us. THEY GOT IN THROUGH AN UNLOCKED DOOR.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/suffolk/ny-liinva135841166sep13,0,3788547.story
Suffolk County Police Commissioner Richard Dormer declined to reveal how police linked the suspects to the crimes, but he did say the burglars followed a distinct pattern: They targeted homes that had open windows or unlocked doors, struck in predawn hours and used masks and guns. They confronted victims in their bedrooms and tied them up before ransacking the homes.
They should have read this thread a year ago!!!!!!!
Missy was right the whoooooooooole time!!
I'm just glad you guys weren't one of the robbed. :ohmy:
By the way, we live in Nyc... there's no question as to whether we lock our doors... I don't even leave my door unlocked when I check the mail... in the same building! (this might also be because it locks sorta when I close it, but I don't leave it slightly open either)
Sue_Bender
09-15-2008, 10:04 PM
I'm practically shitting dicks!!
Leticia
09-15-2008, 10:04 PM
it takes you 12 seconds to lock your door?!? that must be some elaborate setup you got there!
:lol::lol::lol:
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