Imus Returns...

[Reephdweller]

http://hollywood.outsidethebeltway.com/2007/07/don-imus-returns-to-radio/

That was quick. Don Imus is reportedly returning to WFAN soon, and the DJs are the ones starting the rumors.
Imus buds Mike Francesa and Chris Russo, of “Mike and the Mad Dog,” while celebrating the sports station’s 20th anniversary last Friday, whispered that a deal to bring the talk-radio legend back to the radio station is in the works.
“When we return to our regular schedule this September, I hope the team will once again be complete,” Francesa said.
Imus was fired when he eloquently called the Rutgers women’s basketball team “nappy headed hos.” Since then, Imus has received numerous offers, but he is unable to accept any until he settles with CBS (http://hollywood.outsidethebeltway.com/2007/07/don-imus-returns-to-radio/#). Returning to the radio would avoid a legal battle over his current contract.
I guess with legal battles, it’s pick your poison. Al Sharpton probably already has one in the works.


Great news if this is true! I was just about to run over my transister!

[PapaBear]

I've never listened to his show, but he deserves to get his job back.

[Don Stugots]

i burned my clock radio for nothing?

[JPMNICK]

that would be awesome if it happens. i am sure once CBS crucnhed the numbers and saw how much less money they were bringing in, they realized this might not have been such a great idea.

[Reephdweller]

NY Post article

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07022007/news/regionalnews/talking_up_imus_regionalnews_don_kaplan.htm

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is Francesa technically ripping off Opie with his radio clues?

[AKA]

I never doubted he would find work again or be rehired - radio eats it's own more than any other industry, but it is always hungry for seconds. Personal feelings aside, I'm glad for him and his fans. Everyone on here knows what it's like when your favorite radio show is no longer available.

http://www.bigbtv.com/Images/Survivor/s8/ep6/c5.jpg

Still - personal feelings NOTaside, I think he does a dull, shitty radio - I think less of him than just about anyone in current American media - and I'm reminded of the lovely Sue Hawk from the first Survivor, and while I may not completely agree with the paraphrase: If I saw (him) in the desert, dying of thirst, I would not stop to give (him) a sip of water and that I'd like to see the vultures get (him) - I do not completely disagree either.

[Kevin]

i burned my cock radio for nothing?

To each his own..

[cupcakelove]

This is great news!

[Kevin]

This is great news!

heh heh.. Shut up..you jerk.. meh meh

[Recyclerz]

Well, I will confess to hoping this is true and to being an Imus fan. Maybe it's an old age thing but I enjoy him torturing political types with questions they don't want to answer and I think he put together the best staff that I've ever listened to. Plus I feel I owe him because listening to him enabled me to "discover" O&A and O&A led me to Ron & Fez.

Even if you think he's washed up and been mailing it in (and there were times when that was all too true over the last couple of years) or just not funny, I think we can all agree that living in a Post-Post-Imus world will remove the choke chain from our hero, Mr. Ron Bennington, so prepare for extra hilarity if & when this happens.

[Devo37]

*quack quack*

[cougarjake13]

*quack quack*

shut up mcgirk

[DolaMight]

Well it looks like the return is a go, Sharpton has allowed the I-Man to work again. He's scouting for a black sidekick. I hope he doesn't just put Sid Rosenberg in blackface. That won't work.

More Talk: Imus Coming Back To WFAN - 7/17 - The NY Post reports that Don Imus is coming back to the airwaves in September, according to private eye Bo Dietl, who was a regular on "Imus In The Morning" on WFAN. Dietl said on NY Post State Editor Fred Dicker's Albany radio show, "I'm not supposed to say, but... if he was to be coming back, I would look to September." When Dicker asked if he meant satellite radio, Dietl replied, "Broadcast." Another source says Imus has been scouting comedy clubs looking for a black sidekick who will take the sting out of any future racial cracks like the one that got him booted off the air.....


Al Sharpton OK With An Imus Return
July 17, 2007

There has been recent speculation that Don Imus could return to the radio sooner rather than later. The New York Post's sources say he could be back on terrestrial radio as soon as September. The Rev. Al Sharpton was recently questioned about a potential return for Imus.

"My position is that we never called for him to be permanently barred from being on the air," Sharpton told Radar Online. "We'll see when he comes back, and if he comes back, what are the boundaries and what is the understanding. We'll be monitoring the situation, but we wanted him to pay for being a repeat abuser, and he paid. We never said we didn't want him to make a living."

The Post also reports there have been rumors that Imus is scouting for a black comedian as a new sidekick, to "take the sting out of" any future racially-related humor. However, Sharpton said, "A sidekick is not cover. What he needs to give him cover is his own conscience and whether he'll live up to the apology he gave those Rutgers girls."

[topless_mike]

the black side-kick should let a few good jokes go.

remember: rev al doesnt pursue black on black or black on white hate.

[JPMNICK]

it is laughable when Rev. Al speaks, and even funnier that it will be OK for him to come back as long as he has a black sidekick. that is more racist than what he said.

[Dougie Brootal]

YES! score one for the white man!!!

lemme see thats 987,590,817,577,698,757,647,045,218,786,864,621,50 7,764,892,094,849,834,707,923,401 for the whites

2 for the blacks

yes! take that blacks!

[MobCounty]

http://www.jemeenthet.nl/fabian/images/log/BrokenRadio.gif

[BoondockSaint]

Maybe he could hire Earl.

[MikeB]

I wonder if he can bring back bernie? If he does that changes the show a lot. With Bernie you are going to have to have a strong comedian (Patrice) to keep up with it. Chuck Nice would get destroyed with Bernie there.

Seems like DL Hugley would work on the show.

[JPMNICK]

Patrice would be hysterical on that show.

[BeerBandit]

That is absolute bullshit that his position was not to get Imus fired.

"(A person) could be fired, and you're the nicest guy in the world, but you (still) deserve to be fired," Sharpton said." - NBC.com (4/10/07)

As if we needed further proof of Rev. Al's sliminess.

Good for CBSRadio if this is true. I'm sure XM's suspension, not cancellation or firing, of O&A had some sort of bearing in this decision.

[DolaMight]

I wonder if he can bring back bernie? If he does that changes the show a lot. With Bernie you are going to have to have a strong comedian (Patrice) to keep up with it. Chuck Nice would get destroyed with Bernie there.

Seems like DL Hugley would work on the show.

Bernie ll be back and as for a comedian it'll be someone that doesn't have that much goin for them. Patrice and DL Hughley are too strong for that show. They'd have to be an unknown. Maybe Cowboy troy.

[ralphbxny]

Congrats to Mr. Imus!!!

[buzzard]

I welcome back the man!...I hope he regains his passion though!

[Freitag]

That is absolute bullshit that his position was not to get Imus fired.

"(A person) could be fired, and you're the nicest guy in the world, but you (still) deserve to be fired," Sharpton said." - NBC.com (4/10/07)

As if we needed further proof of Rev. Al's sliminess.

Good for CBSRadio if this is true. I'm sure XM's suspension, not cancellation or firing, of O&A had some sort of bearing in this decision.

Not to play Devil's advocate, but re-read Sharpton's statement. Firing is not the same as a permanent removal from the air. It's a word game, but Sharpton said he never wanted Imus "permanently" removed from the air.

[Kevin]

Maybe he could hire Earl.

I will not listen to or take advice from a human parrot.. You jerk.. YEH YEH

[pennington]

Chuck Nice would get destroyed with Bernie there.

Chuck Nice is HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE. Don't even put that out as a thought. Some hack from CBS management might read it.

I think Patrice would be excellent on Imus' show. I doubt control-freak Opie would want him to have success on another show though.

[FANDICK]

Thank god he's coming back. Not a huge fan...for the principle.

Now I hope Al Sharpton gets cancer of the larynx.

[buzzard]

Chuck Nice is HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE. Don't even put that out as a thought. Some hack from CBS management might read it.

I think Patrice would be excellent on Imus' show. I doubt control-freak Opie would want him to have success on another show though.
I beg to differ with you,I don't think Opie would stand in Patrice's way.I think you might have Opie confused with someone else...both the boys treat Imus with a great deal of respect(more than most) as he was majorly helpful to their comeback to terrestrial radio.I dunno that the chemistry would work with Imus/Patrice though Imus is a lil too country-old school Patrice is a lil too hip-hop/no school...they'd need THE Al Dukes on the dump-button and bernie couldn't get within a mile of a microphone:wink:

[cougarjake13]

i thought i remembered seein that boomer esiasion was tabbed for imus' old spot

guess not now

[Bulldogcakes]

I beg to differ with you,I don't think Opie would stand in Patrice's way.I think you might have Opie confused with someone else...both the boys treat Imus with a great deal of respect(more than most) as he was majorly helpful to their comeback to terrestrial radio.I dunno that the chemistry would work with Imus/Patrice though Imus is a lil too country-old school Patrice is a lil too hip-hop/no school...they'd need THE Al Dukes on the dump-button and bernie couldn't get within a mile of a microphone:wink:

Patrice could be very good, and if Bernie's there it would be even better. Imus would dish it out, Bernie would chime in and Patrice would hit both of them back. Imus LOVES anyone who hits back. He LOVED the way O&A used to goof on him all the time, and they were trying as hard as they can to make him look like an irrelevant old fool. He likes when people put him in his place. He knows he dishes it out, and (unlike his critics) he can take it.

[FUNKMAN]

screw Imus, he's not funny and he's a douche behind a mic

he's douchey enough to bend the 'freedom of speech' rule, in my douchey douche opinion...

[DolaMight]

from drudge

IMUS: $20 MILLION MAN

**EXCLUSIVE 10:19 AM ET ** Radio host Don Imus has agreed to settle his contract with CBS for $20 million, and a non disparaging clause, legal sources claim. The move opens the possibility Imus will soon return to the airwaves -- on WABC in New York! [Top radio executive strongly dismisses Imus will be offered WABC slot] Developing...

[DolaMight]

Not too bad and he gets to sign for another overpaid contract

same day wfan closes door on talk of return:

BOOMER ESIASON AND CRAIG CARTON TO HOST MORNING DRIVE ON WFAN-AM IN NEW YORK (http://www.wfan.com/pages/807255.php)

I don't know who could possibly listen to boomer. Unless marino was in there taking no-ring shots he's unlistenable.

[Earlshog]

Not too bad and he gets to sign for another overpaid contract

same day wfan closes door on talk of return:

BOOMER ESIASON AND CRAIG CARTON TO HOST MORNING DRIVE ON WFAN-AM IN NEW YORK (http://www.wfan.com/pages/807255.php)

I don't know who could possibly listen to boomer. Unless marino was in there taking no-ring shots he's unlistenable.

overpaid contract?

did you see how much he bills?

[Crippler]

Carton won't last 6 months on the FAN. Although there are a myriad of ways he could go down in flames, I predict he will piss off Francessa somehow & get the boot. He's too much of an asshole to tow the line at a stuffy place like WFAN. And, correct me if I'm wrong, when he was a "SPORTS GUY!" it always felt like he was bored talking about sports...like had somewhere he would rather be.

[Freitag]

Carton won't last 6 months on the FAN. Although there are a myriad of ways he could go down in flames, I predict he will piss off Francessa somehow & get the boot. He's too much of an asshole to tow the line at a stuffy place like WFAN. And, correct me if I'm wrong, when he was a "SPORTS GUY!" it always felt like he was bored talking about sports...like had somewhere he would rather be.

In Craig's defense, he was stuck with a partner he absolutely did not get along with and stuck on a sinking ship of a radio station that got zero promotional support until 3PM in the afternoon.

Personal bias aside, he had a very good show on 101.5... and from personal experience, he is able to get along with some of the most egotistical blowhards I've ever seen.

I actually think the reverse will happen; Esiason won't be able to hack morning radio with all of his other TV and radio commitments, and eventually it'll be Carton by himself in the morning.

[DolaMight]

overpaid contract?

did you see how much he bills?

Yeah and some sources said he made more, some less. Most sources say the show brought in 15-20 Mill a year. After his 10Mil contract, operating expenses, staff and marketing there was very little left. I'm still an Iman fan but nobody in the business gets more than 50% of total revenue.

[Doctor Z]

So, if he goes to WABC, are Curtis & Kuby out of a job?

If WFAN thinks that Boomer/Carton combo is gonna work in morning drive, they have as much sense as the fucktards that put David Lee Roth in for Stern... oh wait... they ARE the same fucktards. Radio is a joke.

[Freitag]

So, if he goes to WABC, are Curtis & Kuby out of a job?

If WFAN thinks that Boomer/Carton combo is gonna work in morning drive, they have as much sense as the fucktards that put David Lee Roth in for Stern... oh wait... they ARE the same fucktards. Radio is a joke.

In fairness, again, Boomer has tons more broadcasting experience than Roth has. Boomer is also not as big of a headcase that Roth was. CBS also didn't pair Roth with a "radio guy". CBS did, with a guy who has sports talk and talk show experience.

[FANDICK]

I'm glad he got at least half of his contract and I'm glad CBS lost out due to bowing to Al Sharpton and his cronies.

They didn't have to and shouldn't have fired him.

[BoondockSaint]

Wait until Craig calls him Norman and Norman breaks Craig's arm. That will be great radio.

[led37zep]

Holy fucking shit. Here is the real attack on free speech, being sued over a joke.
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3479449&page=1

[HBox]

Holy fucking shit. Here is the real attack on free speech, being sued over a joke.
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3479449&page=1

That's just fucking awful. If I were Imus I'd force her to go to trial and make the case that no, she does not have nappy hair and no, she is not a ho. That would be entertaining.

[buzzard]

UN-fuck her! her good name indeed...nobody even knew her name until Imus said NHH!
this litigious society we live in sucks!

[DolaMight]

Holy fucking shit. Here is the real attack on free speech, being sued over a joke.
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3479449&page=1

Holy fucking Wow

"He's come out smelling like quite the rose. But what about these young women? How does Imus' victory affect their self-esteem? Where do they go to get their reputations back?"

Oh Imus smelling like a rose. that's a first, coffin roses and bonesmell maybe.

"The 20-year-old, 6 foot 4 inch New York Native." How can LadyShaq sue over teasing, you'd think the nappy headed hoe would be used to it by now. Sue me.

[DolaMight]

That's just fucking awful. If I were Imus I'd force her to go to trial and make the case that no, she does not have nappy hair and no, she is not a ho. That would be entertaining.

Oh yeah the expert witnesses and the like, barbershop hairstylists and all, defining the word nappy. Fantastic.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Isn't your reputation damaged enough by being a women's basketball player?

This is utterly ridiculous. If anything, Imus' comment gave the team a flush of POSITIVE PR. I can't positive see how it quite possibly could have damaged her reputation.

[rckiller]

I've missed him.....

[Ritalin]

Isn't your reputation damaged enough by being a women's basketball player?

This is utterly ridiculous. If anything, Imus' comment gave the team a flush of POSITIVE PR. I can't positive see how it quite possibly could have damaged her reputation.

Wait. Seriously. Why don't you take 24 hours and see if you can take your head out of your ass on this one.

Your stupidity is embarrasing, dude. Flail away with your weak "First Amendment" arguement, but you don't really mean to say that calling a woman a whore on the radio is POSITIVE, right?

I mean, you're really not THAT stupid, right?

And you other knuckleheads get that Imus' First Amendment rights aren't being violated, right? You get that he isn't being arrested, that he's being sued for slander by a Division I athlete with better prospects than most of you can dream of.

That she didn't call in or reference his show. That out of the blue some hillbilly called her a ho, and because of it she might have problems down the road because in the kind of jobs she aspires to people don't want to bother with any kind of publicity or friction. Do you get that she's going to have to answer questions about being called a whore on national radio because she was a good enough athlete to play Division I basketball, and for NO OTHER REASON?

Yeah, tee hee Ku Klux Klan. Make her take the stand and explain what nappy means. Then I want you waterheads to take the stand and explain what defamation of character means.

Not that you buffoons would need to worry about it.

Fucking idiots.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wait. Seriously. Why don't you take 24 hours and see if you can take your head out of your ass on this one.

Your stupidity is embarrasing, dude. Flail away with your weak "First Amendment" arguement, but you don't really mean to say that calling a woman a whore on the radio is POSITIVE, right?

I mean, you're really not THAT stupid, right?

And you other knuckleheads get that Imus' First Amendment rights aren't being violated, right? You get that he isn't being arrested, that he's being sued for slander by a Division I athlete with better prospects than most of you can dream of.

That she didn't call in or reference his show. That out of the blue some hillbilly called her a ho, and because of it she might have problems down the road because in the kind of jobs she aspires to people don't want to bother with any kind of publicity or friction. Do you get that she's going to have to answer questions about being called a whore on national radio because she was a good enough athlete to play Division I basketball, and for NO OTHER REASON?

Yeah, tee hee Ku Klux Klan. Make her take the stand and explain what nappy means. Then I want you waterheads to take the stand and explain what defamation of character means.

Not that you buffoons would need to worry about it.

Fucking idiots.

Hi. First, chill with the personal attacks. You're doing a piss-poor imitation of me and frankly, it makes me look bad.

When did I ever say this was a First Amendment issue?

1) Did Imus identify her specifically by name as a Nappy Headed Ho?

No?

Strike 1. Even as a member of the team, he didn't specifically single her out. So there's the first major weakness in the case.

He didn't specifically defame HER. That's the problem.

2) My point was, the media and everyone else identified the Rutgers team as victims and "brave girls". Imus was portrayed as this massive racist, and the women's team were shown as strong, smart, young women who were willing to forgive a man for his transgressions. Remember, they accepted the apology.

3) She played for the runner-up of the 2007 Women's NCAA Tournament, and gained more positive press from the run and the aftermath than anything Imus could have done to detract from it.




Rutgers basketball player Kia Vaughn doesn't know what Imus meant when he called her and her teammates "nappy-headed hos," but she's sure that she's not one.

"I achieve a lot, and unless they have given this name 'ho' a new definition, then that is not what I am," said Vaughn, the team's sophomore center.



Well then.

She's also a fucking SOPHOMORE. That means she has two years of school left. What job opportunities would be affected by this - do you really think people will remember HER two years down the road? They'll remember the Imus situation, but they won't remember HER.

BTW... show me ANY job interview that would ask her questions about being called a whore, and I'll show you a company that is deserving of being sued.

First amendment or not, this is a weak case, a baseless lawsuit, and it's just someone looking for a payday. Way to be a team distraction, dear.

[Tenbatsuzen]

BTW, Ritalin, I don't see Kia's major listed anywhere. Undeclared going into her junior year? Obviously she's not very career minded.

[Ritalin]

Hi. First, chill with the personal attacks. You're doing a piss-poor imitation of me and frankly, it makes me look bad.

I have no idea who you are, actually, and it doesn't look like you need much help looking bad.

When did I ever say this was a First Amendment issue?

Right. It was that part of my post where it says "And you other knuckleheads..." That means NOT YOU, queerbait. You have to READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU RESPOND, STUPID. Man, you are self centered, aren't you smart boy?

1) Did Imus identify her specifically by name as a Nappy Headed Ho?

No?

Strike 1. Even as a member of the team, he didn't specifically single her out. So there's the first major weakness in the case.

He didn't specifically defame HER. That's the problem.

Like I said, I don't know your situation, so you very well could be a lawyer and correct on this one. But, I took logic in college, and I think it went like this:

A=B
A
therefore B

2) My point was, the media and everyone else identified the Rutgers team as victims and "brave girls". EXCEPT YOU, SMART BOY! YOU THINK THAT THIS WAS A GREAT THING FOR THEM, BEING CALLED WHORES AND ALL. LET'S NEVER LET ANYONE FORGET THAT YOU WERE WAY OUT IN FRONT ON THIS ONE!Imus was portrayed as this massive racist, and the women's team were shown as strong, smart, young women ...OR, WERE THEY ALREADY STRONG SMART YOUNG WOMEN? WAIT..NO...NAPPY HEADED HO'S! IT'S STILL FUNNYwho were willing to forgive a man for his transgressions. Remember, they accepted the apology.AGAIN, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I DON'T THINK ACCEPTING A MAN'S APOLOGY EXEMPTS HIM FROM CIVIL LIABILITY. IN FACT, IF IT WERE MY SUIT, I'D FEEL PRETTY GOOD TELLING A JURY THAT EVEN MR. IMUS HIMSELF MUST FEEL GUILTY, OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T HAVE APOLOGIZED AT ALL. HOW'S THAT, SMART BOY?

3) She played for the runner-up of the 2007 Women's NCAA Tournament, and gained more positive press from the run and the aftermath than anything Imus could have done to detract from it.THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. FOCUS, DIM BULB. FOCUS!

Quote:
Originally Posted by CBS News, April 12, 2007


Rutgers basketball player Kia Vaughn doesn't know what Imus meant when he called her and her teammates "nappy-headed hos," but she's sure that she's not one.

"I achieve a lot, and unless they have given this name 'ho' a new definition, then that is not what I am," said Vaughn, the team's sophomore center.

Well then. Dana Carvey? You're giving me Dana Fucking Carvey? And you think I'm making you look bad?

She's also a fucking SOPHOMORE. That means she has two years of school left. Perhaps...could be 3 years...maybe she's going to grad school after...what does her class have to do with it? What job opportunities would be affected by this - do you really think people will remember HER two years down the road? Hi, my name is Mr. Moneybags, and I'm a recruiter for Goldman Sachs. I'm just across the river, and I read the papers because I have a fucking brain in my head, and I'm looking at your resume to see what you've done that would make me think that you are a special person. Oh, I see that you played basketball at Rutgers. Were you on the team that Don Imus talked about on the radio?They'll remember the Imus situation, but they won't remember HER.

BTW... show me ANY job interview that would ask her questions about being called a whore, and I'll show you a company that is deserving of being sued.

See above.

First amendment or not, this is a weak case, a baseless lawsuit, and it's just someone looking for a payday. Way to be a team distraction, dear

Yeah, you're right. They probably forgot about it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Right. It was that part of my post where it says "And you other knuckleheads..." That means NOT YOU, queerbait. You have to READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU RESPOND, STUPID. Man, you are self centered, aren't you smart boy?]

Actually, maybe your should re-read your post. You quote my post, mention the first amendment, then start talking about "other people".

[Tenbatsuzen]

Right. It was that part of my post where it says "And you other knuckleheads..." That means NOT YOU, queerbait. You have to READ THE POSTS BEFORE YOU RESPOND, STUPID. Man, you are self centered, aren't you smart boy?



You quoted my post, speaking to me by calling me stupid, and before addressing other people, bring up the first amendment. Using "logic", (which we'll get to in a second), I can only deduce that you were referring to my post about the First. Which, sadly, I never mention.




Like I said, I don't know your situation, so you very well could be a lawyer and correct on this one. But, I took logic in college, and I think it went like this:

A=B
A
therefore B



That's great, but logic and philosophy won't get you far in a courtroom. Imus is being sued for defamation of character. As Kia Vaughn's hair was straight at the time of the incident and Imus didn't specifically mention her by name (which is the crux of the argument that Imus' lawyer will use), there is no SPECIFIC defamation of her character. And even then, as a college athlete who was just nationally featured, she is a public figure, which makes the law even looser on her.



2) My point was, the media and everyone else identified the Rutgers team as victims and "brave girls". EXCEPT YOU, SMART BOY! YOU THINK THAT THIS WAS A GREAT THING FOR THEM, BEING CALLED WHORES AND ALL. LET'S NEVER LET ANYONE FORGET THAT YOU WERE WAY OUT IN FRONT ON THIS ONE!



Huh? I never agreed with Imus' remarks. I disagreed on how CBS handled the situation, because it was shade of how O&A were handled back in 2002.

My point, which you keep missing, is that the National Media really, really pumped up these girls to the point where they were saints. So I really can't see how they were "victims" because Imus ran his mouth. Yes, he spoke wrongly, but do you think anyone - even a FAN of Imus' - took him seriously and believed that the entire team was filled with whores?

Put it in our world - Let's say Anthony did a rant as one of his characters - say Vince McMahon - and said something like "Rachel Nichols is a FILTHY WHORE!" Do you think that even the most brainwashed pest would believe that Ms. Nichols is in fact a whore?


Imus was portrayed as this massive racist, and the women's team were shown as strong, smart, young women ...OR, WERE THEY ALREADY STRONG SMART YOUNG WOMEN? WAIT..NO...NAPPY HEADED HO'S! IT'S STILL FUNNYwho were willing to forgive a man for his transgressions. Remember, they accepted the apology.AGAIN, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I DON'T THINK ACCEPTING A MAN'S APOLOGY EXEMPTS HIM FROM CIVIL LIABILITY. IN FACT, IF IT WERE MY SUIT, I'D FEEL PRETTY GOOD TELLING A JURY THAT EVEN MR. IMUS HIMSELF MUST FEEL GUILTY, OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T HAVE APOLOGIZED AT ALL. HOW'S THAT, SMART BOY?


Guilty of making a stupid remark? Sure. Guilty of intentional and singling our Ms. Vaughn by calling her a "whore" - which isn't what he called her, btw, use the actual terms he used if you want to have a discussion about this, because that's what is going to be admitted in court - probably not and a weak case.


3) She played for the runner-up of the 2007 Women's NCAA Tournament, and gained more positive press from the run and the aftermath than anything Imus could have done to detract from it.THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. FOCUS, DIM BULB. FOCUS!


It has everything to do with what we're talking about. No one will remember who actually won; everyone will remember Rutgers and how "great", "scrappy", and "tough" the team was - a cinderella team, much in the vein of George Mason in the Final Four - and how they handled themselves in the wake of the Don Imus situation.


Quote:
Originally Posted by CBS News, April 12, 2007


Rutgers basketball player Kia Vaughn doesn't know what Imus meant when he called her and her teammates "nappy-headed hos," but she's sure that she's not one.

"I achieve a lot, and unless they have given this name 'ho' a new definition, then that is not what I am," said Vaughn, the team's sophomore center.

Well then. Dana Carvey? You're giving me Dana Fucking Carvey? And you think I'm making you look bad?

It wasn't Dana Carvey. It was just another hit to the case, where Ms. Vaughn is identified as not even knowing what the term means, and assuring herself and the mass media that she's not one. So if she knows for a fact that she's not a ho, where does the embarassment and the defamation come in?


She's also a fucking SOPHOMORE. That means she has two years of school left. Perhaps...could be 3 years...maybe she's going to grad school after...what does her class have to do with it? What job opportunities would be affected by this - do you really think people will remember HER two years down the road? Hi, my name is Mr. Moneybags, and I'm a recruiter for Goldman Sachs. I'm just across the river, and I read the papers because I have a fucking brain in my head, and I'm looking at your resume to see what you've done that would make me think that you are a special person. Oh, I see that you played basketball at Rutgers. Were you on the team that Don Imus talked about on the radio?

That's just it. If a recruiter brings it up, and saw how Ms. Vaughn and her teammates handled themselves with grace and dignity during the situation, it would leave a positive reinforcement in their minds.

This lawsuit completely and totally undoes that.

Your inability to use the quote function makes my head hurt. The point is, no recruiter in their right mind would assume what Imus said had any basis in fact. If a recruiter would have questions about her sexual history, then 1) it's a really bad recruiter and 2) Ms. Vaughn has an actual target to sue.

[keithy_19]

I agree with Tenbatz fully on this one. It seems in poor taste. It makes her look like someone who just wants money. Emotional damage my ass.

[thelyonhart]

I'm not gonna say she's not emotionally damaged or whatever, cause she could be, Everyone has different emotions and different triggers attached to them, so i cant say she wasnt hurt by it and doesnt feel that this lawsuit is really necessary or is just after money. I will say however, she is pretty misguided if she think the lawsuit will do her any good.

I didn't know her name until She sued him. That's the clearest cut case against her charges of slander. Imus made a blanket statement about a group of people. I am a rapper, and if people said "All rappers are idiots" which people always say, I am not being slandered. Granted a basketball team is a smaller group, but even if it was a pairs tennis team, she was not being specifically slandered as far as the law is concerned. However, by filing this case, she is in a way poking her head out and saying "Hi! It's me! I'm the one he called a ho!" and is relinquishing the anonymity that being one of many afforded her.

If this goes to trial, she will further increase the focus on her as the "accused ho" turning future conversations on this matter from this..

"hey remember when imus called the rutgers lady knights nappy headed hos?"
"yeah. that was crazy."

to this...

"hey remember when imus called the rutgers lady knights nappy headed hos?"
"yeah, and then Kia Vaughn sued him and it was all over TV?"

So yeah, basically, if she's really worried about being remembered for this, she'd probably do best to just stay under the radar where she's been. However you know, if she earnestly wants to take a stand or whatever, and is willing to sacrifice her private name for it, then more power to her. And hell , even if it's just for money, I can't say i wouldnt try and get it to.

[Ritalin]

You know, I got up this morning and reread my exchange with Tenbats, and I'm a little regretful that I got so worked up and provacative about this issue.

Tenbats, I agree to disagree, and you're entitled to your opinion. I don't really care about this whole Imus thing anymore. It's got nothing to do with me.

[FANDICK]

Completely ridiculous.

His remarks were his OPINION and you can't be sued for that. It doesn't fall under the terms of slander and libel refers to defamation and the like in PRINT. This would open the doot for ANYONE to sue ANYBODY for making comments regarding their negative opinions on that particular person.

How does this particular player think that this was personal against her anyway? He didn't mention her specifically and the team ACCEPTED his apoloy for Christ sake.

This lawyer ought to be disbarred and some people in this country ought to be burned at the fucking stake.

[Dougie Brootal]

You quoted my post, speaking to me by calling me stupid, and before addressing other people, bring up the first amendment. Using "logic", (which we'll get to in a second), I can only deduce that you were referring to my post about the First. Which, sadly, I never mention.




That's great, but logic and philosophy won't get you far in a courtroom. Imus is being sued for defamation of character. As Kia Vaughn's hair was straight at the time of the incident and Imus didn't specifically mention her by name (which is the crux of the argument that Imus' lawyer will use), there is no SPECIFIC defamation of her character. And even then, as a college athlete who was just nationally featured, she is a public figure, which makes the law even looser on her.



Huh? I never agreed with Imus' remarks. I disagreed on how CBS handled the situation, because it was shade of how O&A were handled back in 2002.

My point, which you keep missing, is that the National Media really, really pumped up these girls to the point where they were saints. So I really can't see how they were "victims" because Imus ran his mouth. Yes, he spoke wrongly, but do you think anyone - even a FAN of Imus' - took him seriously and believed that the entire team was filled with whores?

Put it in our world - Let's say Anthony did a rant as one of his characters - say Vince McMahon - and said something like "Rachel Nichols is a FILTHY WHORE!" Do you think that even the most brainwashed pest would believe that Ms. Nichols is in fact a whore?



Guilty of making a stupid remark? Sure. Guilty of intentional and singling our Ms. Vaughn by calling her a "whore" - which isn't what he called her, btw, use the actual terms he used if you want to have a discussion about this, because that's what is going to be admitted in court - probably not and a weak case.



It has everything to do with what we're talking about. No one will remember who actually won; everyone will remember Rutgers and how "great", "scrappy", and "tough" the team was - a cinderella team, much in the vein of George Mason in the Final Four - and how they handled themselves in the wake of the Don Imus situation.



It wasn't Dana Carvey. It was just another hit to the case, where Ms. Vaughn is identified as not even knowing what the term means, and assuring herself and the mass media that she's not one. So if she knows for a fact that she's not a ho, where does the embarassment and the defamation come in?




That's just it. If a recruiter brings it up, and saw how Ms. Vaughn and her teammates handled themselves with grace and dignity during the situation, it would leave a positive reinforcement in their minds.

This lawsuit completely and totally undoes that.

Your inability to use the quote function makes my head hurt. The point is, no recruiter in their right mind would assume what Imus said had any basis in fact. If a recruiter would have questions about her sexual history, then 1) it's a really bad recruiter and 2) Ms. Vaughn has an actual target to sue.




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[Death Metal Moe]

Fuck those whores. They didn't even hear it, someone else did and told them to be offended. No one cares what they think or how they feel. They can eat a dick.

Imus rules, he got fucked. I hope he comes back stronger than ever and gets paid 4 times what CBS paid him.

[dragon]

I agree this lawsuit is baseless, but there are plenty of opportunistic clowns (lawyers) who are looking for an easy buck and some press.
Anyone who ever listened to Imus knows he was (is) an entertainer who gets paid for what he does. Entertains.
As far as insulting people, that's his job.
Sharpy sharpton, and jackson are nothing more than racist opportunistic leaches.
Where are they when ANYONE else disrespects someone using race or religion?
They are FRAUDS, and I cannot believe some people follow them like mindless lemmings.

[Doctor Z]

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IS HE BACK YET?!

[dragon]

AMEN !


Completely ridiculous.

His remarks were his OPINION and you can't be sued for that. It doesn't fall under the terms of slander and libel refers to defamation and the like in PRINT. This would open the doot for ANYONE to sue ANYBODY for making comments regarding their negative opinions on that particular person.

How does this particular player think that this was personal against her anyway? He didn't mention her specifically and the team ACCEPTED his apoloy for Christ sake.

This lawyer ought to be disbarred and some people in this country ought to be burned at the fucking stake.
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[scottinnj]

i burned my clock radio for nothing?


No Don, you didn't. It's still Terrestrial Radio.

Because when Monkey House rocks he rocks a fat Inno.

[Judge Smails]

Rutgers player drops her lawsuit against Imus to concentrate on her education and basketball. (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ixeR-PBHXoY6gn_n7yZ1qU4iL81g)

[led37zep]

Rutgers player drops her lawsuit against Imus to concentrate on her education and basketball. (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ixeR-PBHXoY6gn_n7yZ1qU4iL81g)

I guess thats a good thing to say when you have NO FUCKING CASE at all.

[MikeB]

Which happens first? Tom dies or Imus returns?

[JPMNICK]

Which happens first? Tom dies or Imus returns?

they sound like the same person to me

[Earlshog]

Posted by Allan Sniffen on October 02, 2007 at 12:59:33:

I'm hearing that Citadel and Imus are close... very close. Bernie will likely be back but in a non speaking capacity (for now). McCord also to be part of it.

Don't treat this as fact just yet... but... If I were going to place a bet...

[MadMatt]

Posted by Allan Sniffen on October 02, 2007 at 12:59:33:

I'm hearing that Citadel and Imus are close... very close. Bernie will likely be back but in a non speaking capacity (for now). McCord also to be part of it.

Don't treat this as fact just yet... but... If I were going to place a bet...

Cool! There are times when I think Sniffen is a douche, but he does get some good inside dirt every once in a while. I hope this pans out for Imus.

Plus, it may help improve Citadel's stock so O&A might get closer to breaking even :lol:

[Doctor Z]

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-spimus1003,0,799288,print.story

Here's what I don't get. Are they just gonna SHOVE Curtis & Kuby off into No Job Town to make room for Imus? I thought they had a reasonably successful show, and they're both very high profile names, so I feel like it'd be tough for WABC to just say "Take a hike".

[Freitag]

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-spimus1003,0,799288,print.story

Here's what I don't get. Are they just gonna SHOVE Curtis & Kuby off into No Job Town to make room for Imus? I thought they had a reasonably successful show, and they're both very high profile names, so I feel like it'd be tough for WABC to just say "Take a hike".

Syndication. Curtis and Kuby are just in NYC, I believe. Imus can be syndicated and has national recognition.

[Doctor Z]

Yeah, but I'm saying, what do they do with Curtis & Kuby? Curtis & Kuby have brought reasonably good ratings and have been long tied to the WABC family. Do they at least move them and let them keep their jobs? Or do they literally just hand them their pink slips and say "fuck off"?

[RAAMONE]

its official...Imus is back dec. 3rd on WABC!

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashir.htm

[drjoek]

Does anyone really care. I for one never missed that he wasn't on the air. He will return and still won't make a difference in my life. Jimmy Norton went on and on in his HBO thing about it and I realized i couldn't care less. I get the whole free speech and PAC stuff but apathy is where I stand on this. Funny to think that PAC went all out for this guy who would have stepped over you laying on the street to get into hit G5 lear jet

[DolaMight]

Does anyone really care. I for one never missed that he wasn't on the air. He will return and still won't make a difference in my life. Jimmy Norton went on and on in his HBO thing about it and I realized i couldn't care less. I get the whole free speech and PAC stuff but apathy is where I stand on this. Funny to think that PAC went all out for this guy who would have stepped over you laying on the street to get into hit G5 lear jet

I'm looking forward to it, and I think he'll be a bigger draw when he comes back.

Now that he's on WABC he won't be forced to talk about sports so much, the show didn't belong on WFAN anymore. He and most of his audience never really cared about sports for at least the last half decade.

Now I got my daily schedule back, I-man, R&F then O&A replay.

Another plus is I think this will help get John McCain back in the 08 race.

[buzzard]

Does anyone really care. I for one never missed that he wasn't on the air. He will return and still won't make a difference in my life. Jimmy Norton went on and on in his HBO thing about it and I realized i couldn't care less. I get the whole free speech and PAC stuff but apathy is where I stand on this. Funny to think that PAC went all out for this guy who would have stepped over you laying on the street to get into hit G5 lear jet

You sure have become bitter/angry/somewhat mean spirited lately Doc,Imus certainly isn't what I'd call "edgy" anymore...he does still have an audience though.:wink:

[SPeeDy_Freak]

Does anyone really care. I for one never missed that he wasn't on the air. He will return and still won't make a difference in my life. Jimmy Norton went on and on in his HBO thing about it and I realized i couldn't care less. I get the whole free speech and PAC stuff but apathy is where I stand on this. Funny to think that PAC went all out for this guy who would have stepped over you laying on the street to get into hit G5 lear jet

I care. In fact I was listening to him instead of O&A on XM/FreeFM.

[Bay Ridge Tim]

Is Imus replacing Curtis and Kuby? What a load of horseshit. That decrepit old fart sucks. Now, I don't wake up until 11:30 am anyway, but on those rare occasions when I do get up (or, if I finally get a new job), I'll have nothing to listen to.

WABC is suck a lame station now. Everyone with an actual personality was kicked out.

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm very happy Imus is getting back on radio but I'll probably never listen to a minute of it.

Just happy those racist pieces of shit couldn't keep him from working.

[ralphbxny]

Good luck Mr. Imus!! Beware....the nappy headed hoes will be listening!!

[JPMNICK]

I'm very happy Imus is getting back on radio but I'll probably never listen to a minute of it.

Just happy those racist pieces of shit couldn't keep him from working.

i am in the same boat. glad he gets to work, but i doubt i will ever listen

[King Hippos Bandaid]

Not a fan of Imus, but good to see that he is coming back

now the 40-65 yr olds can have something to listen too

Quack Quack

:king:

[PapaBear]

I've been intentionally ignoring this crap, because its, well... crap.

That said, I hope a few of you saw Al Sharpton on The Today Show about 15 minutes ago. AGHHHHH!!!!!

He basically said he'd be fine with Imus being able to work again, if his employers were willing to have watch guards on anything he might say in the future. Anyone who says that this type of shit isn't really "censorship" is WAY behind the times. Grow up, people. The definition of "censorship" has changed.

[Ritalin]

Papa Bear, I don't think that it's censorship if the government isn't somehow involved. I'm not sure that is the "legal" definition of the word, but in this instance it was the marketplace that shut the door on Imus.

Al Sharpton is an idiot, but he obviously has someone listening to him, because it was the threat of boycotts - I guess - that made advertisers run away from Imus. As far as I know, there weren't any governmental agencies that got involved in any way.

And I don't think that anyone seriously suggested that Imus didn't have a legal right to say what he said, so it isn't a first amendment issue. Nobody is infringing on Imus' right to free speech. He can stand on a street corner and call black women whatever he wants to, but the marketplace says - or at least it did in this case - that he won't get paid for it for a while.

(and not for nothin, but isn't it interesting that he ends up on a station with Rush, Hannity, Ingram and their ilk? Looks like water finds it's own level, eh?)

[capper-this]

It's about time the I-Man back he cool and Oppie dad I think!

[buzzard]

I understand "they" are expecting Imus to come back with his guns blazing toward Hillary cuz of her remarks re: the Rutgers girls..and the fact that she felt she had to "honor" them with her presence mainly for a photo op.:thumbup: Go for it I-Man!

[PapaBear]

Papa Bear, I don't think that it's censorship if the government isn't somehow involved. I'm not sure that is the "legal" definition of the word, but in this instance it was the marketplace that shut the door on Imus.

Al Sharpton is an idiot, but he obviously has someone listening to him, because it was the threat of boycotts - I guess - that made advertisers run away from Imus. As far as I know, there weren't any governmental agencies that got involved in any way.

And I don't think that anyone seriously suggested that Imus didn't have a legal right to say what he said, so it isn't a first amendment issue. Nobody is infringing on Imus' right to free speech. He can stand on a street corner and call black women whatever he wants to, but the marketplace says - or at least it did in this case - that he won't get paid for it for a while.

(and not for nothin, but isn't it interesting that he ends up on a station with Rush, Hannity, Ingram and their ilk? Looks like water finds it's own level, eh?)
It's not censorship in the traditional sense of the word. What I'm saying is that censorship is being totally redefined. It doesn't matter that it's not coming from the government anymore.

[Ritalin]

It's not censorship in the traditional sense of the word. What I'm saying is that censorship is being totally redefined. It doesn't matter that it's not coming from the government anymore.

I disagree. Censorship isn't being redefined. Imus wasn't censored.

[PapaBear]

Imus wasn't censored. I agree. But if you saw the interview that I first mentioned, it came off as censorship. He basically said that he'd have no problem with Imus returning, if he could be monitored, to make sure he doesn't say anything that would offend.

[MikeB]

"We signed for 5 years for a reason...It will take that long to get even with everyone"

Talking about mormons: "Do they believe in Jesus? Who is there guy?"
Bartlett: "Donnie Osmand"

[MikeB]

Karith Foster's air is interesting

[pennington]

Opie and Anthony made an unscheduled appearance on Imus' show today during the 9-10am hour.

(Paraphrasing)

Imus: Aren't you guys supposed to be on XM now?

Opie: We ditched it to come here. We threw on some crappy best-of.

Anthony: Yeah, we put on an old Imus bit.

[djjd]

listening to the show now, more out of curiosity than anything else, i sure couldn't listen to it day in and day out