Drudge lets his political bias create another controversy

[MikeB]

Michael Moore Mocks Indian Anchor's Name During On-Air Tirade Against CNN...
http://drudgereport.com
Moore says "Sanja GUPTA." He said his last name louder than his first, since when is that mocking? Yet no one has a problem when that hateful asian woman fills in for bill o'reilly and when she interviewed an arab person and started doing the "ching chong" version for arabs.

[lleeder]

Is this about the Sopranos?

[DarkHippie]

I doubt Drudge can even name the 50 states. That people listen to him makes my pancreas hurt

[Fat_Sunny]

I doubt Drudge can even name the 50 states. That people listen to him makes my pancreas hurt

Well, If More People Listened To Him, 1,000 Dead People Might Be Alive Today.

On His Sunday Night Radio Show Before Katrina Hit, Drudge Raised The Red Flag Higher And The Alarm Louder Than Anyone Else In The Media. He Kept Telling People Over And Over To Get The Hell Out Of New Orleans ASAP. He Was Almost Shrill In His Message That People Get Out Now!

F_S Will Give Him Credit For Being Right On That One, And It Was A Biggie.

Too Bad More People Weren't Listening, Pancreas Or Not!!

[DolaMight]

I wouldn't call it bais if the man makes no bones about his philosophy. It's not public access where handouts require you to be fair. Like him or not he's good at what he does.

[scottinnj]

Whatever Drudge did, he directed a LOT of people to this video stream, and I got a lot of information on Moore's movie and his counterpoints to the msm then I would have. I still will leave an open mind about Sicko, when I see it I want to make sure my wife is watching it. She is an RN who manages patient cases and insurance claims and all that. I'm sure she would be interested in this.

And Now that I have broken from the administration about their Iraq policy, I'm going to re-watch Farenheight 9/11 again to see if my attitude on that has changed along with my split from my party on foreign policy.

[DarkHippie]

Well, If More People Listened To Him, 1,000 Dead People Might Be Alive Today.

On His Sunday Night Radio Show Before Katrina Hit, Drudge Raised The Red Flag Higher And The Alarm Louder Than Anyone Else In The Media. He Kept Telling People Over And Over To Get The Hell Out Of New Orleans ASAP. He Was Almost Shrill In His Message That People Get Out Now!

F_S Will Give Him Credit For Being Right On That One, And It Was A Biggie.

Too Bad More People Weren't Listening, Pancreas Or Not!!

Everyone and their gramma was saying to get out of New Orleans. Its not like he broke the news that there was a hurricane. Any idiot can look out a window and shout 'oh shit, its raining.' He just happens to have a radio show to shout it on.

[HBox]

Well, If More People Listened To Him, 1,000 Dead People Might Be Alive Today.

On His Sunday Night Radio Show Before Katrina Hit, Drudge Raised The Red Flag Higher And The Alarm Louder Than Anyone Else In The Media. He Kept Telling People Over And Over To Get The Hell Out Of New Orleans ASAP. He Was Almost Shrill In His Message That People Get Out Now!

F_S Will Give Him Credit For Being Right On That One, And It Was A Biggie.

Too Bad More People Weren't Listening, Pancreas Or Not!!

I don't know, I was watching CNN the night before and they were really hyping up the thing too. I just have a hard time believing that we can fault the media for NOT hyping shit up enough.

[scottinnj]

I remember looking at Katrina when she was in the Gulf a couple hours before she hit N.O. and telling my wife, "fuck that's a big storm I hope they get all those people out of there"

You had to be a retard not to be scared of that monster.

[foodcourtdruide]

Well, If More People Listened To Him, 1,000 Dead People Might Be Alive Today.

On His Sunday Night Radio Show Before Katrina Hit, Drudge Raised The Red Flag Higher And The Alarm Louder Than Anyone Else In The Media. He Kept Telling People Over And Over To Get The Hell Out Of New Orleans ASAP. He Was Almost Shrill In His Message That People Get Out Now!

F_S Will Give Him Credit For Being Right On That One, And It Was A Biggie.

Too Bad More People Weren't Listening, Pancreas Or Not!!

Sorry F_S, gotta agree with everyone else here. I remember a few nights before Katrina hit CNN had some supermeteorologist/scientist on and they asked him what the chances were that the United States would lose one of its biggest cities in the next 48 hours and he said 60/40. I think everyone was alarmed and fearing the worst... well... everyone except the people that were supposed to send aid to the region.

[foodcourtdruide]

Also... this is such a non-story. This may be the most idiotic and pathetic attempt at a smear campaign I've ever seen.

[Bulldogcakes]

Whatever Drudge did, he directed a LOT of people to this video stream, and I got a lot of information on Moore's movie and his counterpoints to the msm then I would have.

I never get people who attack Drudge. All he does is link to news sites. If anything, attack the news sites.

And this piece, as usual, makes Michael Moore look like exactly what he is. A foaming at the mouth leftist anti-capitalist radical. You couldn't do a better job discrediting him than he does to himself. Everyone who disagrees with him is lying, CNN is too far to the right, anyone who runs commercials cant be trusted. He's a joke. The more he talks, the more he turns people off.

[HBox]

Here's the segment that set Moore off. I have no idea why he got that pissed. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/19160/2/TSR-Gupta-Sicko.mov/)

[Freakshow]

If you were watching CNN or whatever on Monday morning when Katrina hit, when it took a jog to the east and hit the mississippi coast directly--they were using phrases like New Orleans was lucky, they dodged a bullet, the city has been spared. I remember listening to local DC radio on Monday night and they were lighting up all the media royally for freaking out over what they thought was just another Hurricane--like Ivan or Francis or Isabel (not to say those weren't horrible disaster for the people in the path of those storms).

Then the levees started breaking...

[scottinnj]

Here's the segment that set Moore off. I have no idea why he got that pissed. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/19160/2/TSR-Gupta-Sicko.mov/)

Yeah, I don't get it. Even at the end the narrator said "everyone agrees we could do much better"

[MikeB]

I never get people who attack Drudge. All he does is link to news sites. If anything, attack the news sites.

And this piece, as usual, makes Michael Moore look like exactly what he is. A foaming at the mouth leftist anti-capitalist radical. You couldn't do a better job discrediting him than he does to himself. Everyone who disagrees with him is lying, CNN is too far to the right, anyone who runs commercials cant be trusted. He's a joke. The more he talks, the more he turns people off.
Because the site that hosts the video (same one that hosted the O&A comments) seems to be only used by Drudge. He put it in his red text meaning it is the second biggest story and will get bigger. What O&A said is far far far worse than someone saying GUPTA.

Bulldog many of the points you seem to disagree with are the same ones Ronny B makes all the time. Drug companies involvement with the corporations, some sort of social healthcare, cable networks are at least somewhat right leaning because of being owned by big corporations. Do you cringe the same way when Ron talks about similiar issues or just when someone that Fox News hate does..

[MikeB]

Yeah, I don't get it. Even at the end the narrator said "everyone agrees we could do much better"

Yea I am not sure if he watched all of the piece or just heard the lead in. At times though in the piece Gupta seems to be confusing some of the issues. Moores point at times seems to be some health care is better than none. "Fudge the facts" also was an odd choice of words. The piece though was poorly edited.

[Snacks]

Because the site that hosts the video (same one that hosted the O&A comments) seems to be only used by Drudge. He put it in his red text meaning it is the second biggest story and will get bigger. What O&A said is far far far worse than someone saying GUPTA.

Bulldog many of the points you seem to disagree with are the same ones Ronny B makes all the time. Drug companies involvement with the corporations, some sort of social healthcare, cable networks are at least somewhat right leaning because of being owned by big corporations. Do you cringe the same way when Ron talks about similiar issues or just when someone that Fox News hate does..

I was just about to respond to his post with what your wrote. People are such hypocrites, hes not against capitilism hes against people screwing over others to make themselves rich. The right loves to switch stories or change focus on everything. They have been doing this for years and so many stupid people fall for it. Its like in movies when someone is caught red handed and then says "hey, whats that behind you" and when the idiot looks behing themselves the criminal gets away. Stupid and naive.

[scottinnj]

What O&A said is far far far worse than someone saying GUPTA.



Wait a minute, what? Are you talking about the Condoleeza Rice comment spoken by Homeless Charlie?

[scottinnj]

"Fudge the facts" also was an odd choice of words. The piece though was poorly edited.


Agreed, "fudge the facts" is becoming editorial in a piece designed to be a newsreport.

[MikeB]

Wait a minute, what? Are you talking about the Condoleeza Rice comment spoken by Homeless Charlie?

I should of rephrased that, what was said on O&A's show was far worse. I have a problem with neither but the guy yelled GUPTA.

[MikeB]

it is now off drudge. From red to off all the way...that is a mea culpa by Matt.

[scottinnj]

I should of rephrased that, what was said on O&A's show was far worse. I have a problem with neither but the guy yelled GUPTA.


Got it. thanks for the reexplain. I sometimes get confused.

[scottinnj]

A story from the AP (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070710/D8Q9EA400.html) regarding Bad News for the President. If this report is true, more and more people will be jumping the Iraqi ship and will be calling for the troops to come home. If not for the administration's post invasion screwups, but for the fact the Iraqi people don't even care about their future, so why give up our kids' lives for that?

Just thought it was an interesting dichotomy to the original Drudge Link in this thread.

[Yerdaddy]

A story from the AP (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070710/D8Q9EA400.html) regarding Bad News for the President. If this report is true, more and more people will be jumping the Iraqi ship and will be calling for the troops to come home. If not for the administration's post invasion screwups, but for the fact the Iraqi people don't even care about their future, so why give up our kids' lives for that?

Just thought it was an interesting dichotomy to the original Drudge Link in this thread.

It's not the Iraqi people - it's the Iraqi politicians. But it will be spun as "the Iraqis" during Operation: Blame The Iraqis And Leave, which should commence shortly.

[Bulldogcakes]

Bulldog many of the points you seem to disagree with are the same ones Ronny B makes all the time. Drug companies involvement with the corporations, some sort of social healthcare, cable networks are at least somewhat right leaning because of being owned by big corporations. Do you cringe the same way when Ron talks about similiar issues or just when someone that Fox News hate does..

First of all, I get most of my news from local NYC public radio. I haven't watched Fox in years. When I want to be informed on a topic I like some depth, not just a bunch of screaming sensationalized headlines. So nice try, but I don't fit your pigeon holed cartoon of what all conservatives do.

Second yes, when Ronnie B talks about how "The big companies are screwing the little guy and always have" in general I do cringe. I figure either he's playing to his audience, that he figures wants to hear these things, or he believes it and just doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Bulldogcakes]

Here's the segment that set Moore off. I have no idea why he got that pissed. (http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/19160/2/TSR-Gupta-Sicko.mov/)

Because somebody had the temerity to disagree with him.

Here is Wolf Blitzer, giving him a forum to
A) Promote his movie
B) Make his case for national health care and maybe garner more public support to advance his political agenda

and he spends the entire time getting sidetracked on the guest he had before him. HEY STUPID! YOU YOU YOU WERE GETTING THE LAST WORD!! YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REFUTE EVERYTHING THE GUY SAID and instead he acts like he's being "set up" because he wants everything to only go his way. No back and forth, no give and take. It all has to go Mike's way or 'everyone's out to get me'. He's a clown, and he preys on people's ignorance on the left every bit as much as someone like Rush Limbaugh on the right does.

Also, the guy on before him was clearly a credentialed expert in the field. Has a PHD, worked in the industry for many years, wrote books on the subject.
Moore has no experience in the field or background education other than his own personal research.

Put it this way. If you were sick and needed an operation, would you want a Doctor with a PHD to operate on you, or Michael Moore who's read a few books on the subject?
If the answer is the Doctor, then why on earth would you trust Michael Moore to redo the ENTIRE health care system?

[spoon]

First of all, I get most of my news from local NYC public radio. I haven't watched Fox in years. When I want to be informed on a topic I like some depth, not just a bunch of screaming sensationalized headlines. So nice try, but I don't fit your pigeon holed cartoon of what all conservatives do.

Second yes, when Ronnie B talks about how "The big companies are screwing the little guy and always have" in general I do cringe. I figure either he's playing to his audience, that he figures wants to hear these things, or he believes it and just doesn't know what he's talking about.

I can't believe Ronnie wouldn't speak his own fucking mind being the person that he is. Also, he's fucking on the money right. I've seen it, experienced it and dealt with it personally from multiple angles and it's destroying our country day by day. I've never seen you once see things from an non-conservative point of view so I doubt very much your as well versed/read as you claim. If you truly follow facts you wouldn't fall on the same side every fucking time. The only time I saw you buckle is with the support of Bush once he was done for good in the public eye. It was at that time you decided to use the "he's not a true conservative like me" bullshit argument and acted like you weren't in his corner like you were since day one. Funny, if the conservatives can't control themselves, who then can?

[spoon]

Put it this way. If you were sick and needed an operation, would you want a Doctor with a PHD to operate on you, or Michael Moore who's read a few books on the subject?
If the answer is the Doctor, then why on earth would you trust Michael Moore to redo the ENTIRE health care system?

Wow, since you "put it that way", I changed my whole idea about people who care enough to get involved. Fuck them, and let's just ride the corporation, HMO, fucked up healthcare system wave. Nobody ever let's money change their ethics right? This whole damn fucking war is an overt form of war profiteering for crying out loud. Just like NYC under "how'm i doin" boy, people pilfer for their own profits at any public cost. Ask anyone in Canada what's the one thing they wouldn't want to change about their country and they tell you universal healthcare. It's demonized here in the states as a smear campaign to hold it off as a scare tactic, but hell you know better then those living with it right?! And unless your loaded, your not getting the top docs here for surgeries and more either.

[A.J.]

Moore says "Sanja GUPTA." He said his last name louder than his first

"GUPTA!"

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[sailor]

free market be damned!

[Bulldogcakes]

I can't believe Ronnie wouldn't speak his own fucking mind being the person that he is. Also, he's fucking on the money right. I've seen it, experienced it and dealt with it personally from multiple angles and it's destroying our country day by day. I've never seen you once see things from an non-conservative point of view so I doubt very much your as well versed/read as you claim. If you truly follow facts you wouldn't fall on the same side every fucking time. The only time I saw you buckle is with the support of Bush once he was done for good in the public eye. It was at that time you decided to use the "he's not a true conservative like me" bullshit argument and acted like you weren't in his corner like you were since day one. Funny, if the conservatives can't control themselves, who then can?

Then you're not paying attention. If you read my posts you would know that
1) I support stem cell research
2) Opposed his and congress' record on spending
3) Opposed Bush on Terry Schiavo
4) Support Gay marriage
5) Opposed Bush on Harriet Myers SC nomination
6) Opposed his Medicare part D prescription drug plan
7) I'm agnostic on abortion, I don't buy into either side
8) Was happy when the Republicans lost congress
9) Have called the Bush presidency a "failure" many times


If you are actually reading my posts, then you are just just seeing what you want to see. Not what is there.

[high fly]

Drudge?
Matt Drudge?
The same Matt Drudge who falsely reported that Sidney Blumenthal beat his wife?
The same Matt Drudge who told us a year and a half ago that Ariel Sharon was dead?
That Matt Drudge?

[spoon]

Then you're not paying attention. If you read my posts you would know that
1) I support stem cell research
2) Opposed his and congress' record on spending
3) Opposed Bush on Terry Schiavo
4) Support Gay marriage
5) Opposed Bush on Harriet Myers SC nomination
6) Opposed his Medicare part D prescription drug plan
7) I'm agnostic on abortion, I don't buy into either side
8) Was happy when the Republicans lost congress
9) Have called the Bush presidency a "failure" many times


If you are actually reading my posts, then you are just just seeing what you want to see. Not what is there.

1) If you weren't you'd be a complete tart. I really think the right plays this up for votes and votes alone.
2) After the fact of course. Easy to decide something is wrong once it's too late. And just who did you vote in the last election? The last republican congress hardly worked yet managed to spend plenty (record levels) led by it's fearless idiot.
3) Another play for votes. So yes, you did think it was stupid. Still, giving you credit for this is worthless since it's such a non-issue.
4) Oh yah, I forgot about your weekend with Scott McClellan, Carl Rove and that fancy reporter.
http://boozhy.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/mcclellan_thoughts.jpg
5) Another great stand by BDC! Ha!
6) I for one benefitted by this bill and still saw it as a fucking joke. I'm sure it's not for the right reasons either. It's just another way to profit at the expense of the government via ties to big corporations (Big Pharma).
7) So if you don't "buy" into either side, shouldn't you leave it up to the individual? Nobody is asking people to take a side there, just let them make the choice. Choosing pro-life makes the choice for everyone in a "free" society.
8) Effexor for all! You learned the hard way total control is never the answer for any party or society. Seriously, do you think I want total independent or dem control?
9) After voting for him twice and post 2005 when it's so fucking obvious it's painful. Yerdaddy has it down on this topic with his own republicans claiming not to support him once he's done but doing nothing to push their "conservative" spending policy beliefs while he was/is in office. Look at this fucking war in itself and they still won't push for it to end enough.

Nice try.

[high fly]

.2) After the fact of course. Easy to decide something is wrong once it's too late.

Are you saying he is admitting to being a fair weather friend?

[spoon]

Are you saying he is admitting to being a fair weather friend?

http://www.asmp.org/images/members/2233/138-lg.jpg

But of course.

[scottinnj]

4) Oh yah, I forgot about your weekend with Scott McClellan, Carl Rove and that fancy reporter.
http://boozhy.typepad.com/my_weblog/images/mcclellan_thoughts.jpg


BOOOOOO!



6) I for one benefitted by this bill and still saw it as a fucking joke. I'm sure it's not for the right reasons either. It's just another way to profit at the expense of the government via ties to big corporations (Big Pharma).

I love these arguments. It's like the families using WIC who are against welfare. If it benefits you, then quite possibly it might benefit others as well. It may not be a perfect thing, and it may be a very poorly run prescription drug plan. But just because you think its a joke doesn't equate to "EVIL REPUBLICANS IN THE POCKETS OF CORPORATE PHARMACY COMPANIES" It may be just a bad plan, but keep getting them pills at the expense of the rest of us while searching for the conspiracy in it all while you can buddy.

Now that that rant is over......
May I have some Grey Poupon too? I like hotdogs!

[spoon]

u gots me all wrong scotty
its my work and my options have surely grown bc of it and more

[scottinnj]

So do I. But not pills, IV. So you should know about the length of time it takes to make the pill, test it and get it approved vs. the amount of time you have to market it before the patent runs out.

Blah blah blah blah blah...I know, I know, I know. We can go around and round, and never change each others minds..........My main thing was that I think you were a bit harsh on Bulldogcakes.

[spoon]

I have no problem with a company charging what it wants for it's products no matter what it is, but basically telling the gov to pay higher/non-negotiated contracts is simply ludicrous. It was a windfall for the industry as a whole and the ties to them are huge in terms of old positions (Lilly / Cheney) and backing (special interest groups/PACs). Don't believe all the hype you're told by these companies. I've lost a ton of faith in the industry of late, but they're half the trouble the HMOs are if not less.

[scottinnj]

Even my guys want to have Medicare negotiate the price of these things, otherwise, the drug cost is too high for Medicare to justify covering, and then we don't get authorization to dipense certain drugs from Medicare to our prospective patients. Every single one of these politicians are in the back pocket of somebody.
I am discouraged for the next election

[Furtherman]

Fuck Drudge.

Ratted out Prince Harry was fighting in Afghanistan.

All other media outfits, amazingly, kept it quiet so the kid to do his tour.

Thanks to Drudge, now his life and his unit lives were in danger. The kid wanted to do something normal, brave and proud, which he won't be able to do the rest of his life, and now he gets pulled out because of Drudge.

Fuck Drudge.

[jauble]

Fuck Drudge.

Ratted out Prince Harry was fighting in Afghanistan.

All other media outfits, amazingly, kept it quiet so the kid to do his tour.

Thanks to Drudge, now his life and his unit lives were in danger. The kid wanted to do something normal, brave and proud, which he won't be able to do the rest of his life, and now he gets pulled out because of Drudge.

Fuck Drudge.

Also he will be a target for the rest of his life no matter where he goes. Finding out that he was serving was really quite a cool thing and I respect him for doing it. He was going to resign from his position if they didn't deploy him because he didn't want to be ceremonial. Good for Harry, eat a dick Drudge.

[Crispy123]

Fuck Drudge.

Ratted out Prince Harry was fighting in Afghanistan.

All other media outfits, amazingly, kept it quiet so the kid to do his tour.

Thanks to Drudge, now his life and his unit lives were in danger. The kid wanted to do something normal, brave and proud, which he won't be able to do the rest of his life, and now he gets pulled out because of Drudge.

Fuck Drudge.

I agree that Drudge is a douche. But it did create the headline on Yahoo, "Prince Harry Pulls Out".

[Zorro]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/28/wdrudge128.xml

[Furtherman]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/28/wdrudge128.xml

Read carefully... it isn't the Telegraph that is proclaiming it, rather... the man the Telegraph's US editor has described as "the world's most powerful journalist"

Still, Fuck him.

[Zorro]

Wow, since you "put it that way", I changed my whole idea about people who care enough to get involved. Fuck them, and let's just ride the corporation, HMO, fucked up healthcare system wave. Nobody ever let's money change their ethics right? This whole damn fucking war is an overt form of war profiteering for crying out loud. Just like NYC under "how'm i doin" boy, people pilfer for their own profits at any public cost. Ask anyone in Canada what's the one thing they wouldn't want to change about their country and they tell you universal healthcare. It's demonized here in the states as a smear campaign to hold it off as a scare tactic, but hell you know better then those living with it right?! And unless your loaded, your not getting the top docs here for surgeries and more either.

Canadian healthcare is great if you need stitches or break a leg. So, if you're just a regular joe with regular problems it can't be beat. But, when you have something more complicated the system is just overwhelmed. The waiting time for tests and surgery can be interminable.

[badmonkey]

How the Prince Harry blackout was broken (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/28/nharry2128.xml)

Chief of the General Staff Sir Richard Dannatt said he would have to consider whether to pull the third in line to the throne out of Afghanistan immediately now that his cover had been blown.

He said all media outlets in the UK had agreed to a news blackout until Prince Harry returned from operations, an agreement which proved it was "perfectly possible" for the 23-year-old to live as a normal soldier.

But details of his time in combat were published in Australian magazine New Idea and picked up by the US-based website the Drudge Report after 10 weeks on the front line.

New Idea first published its story on its website on January 7 and then in its subsequent magazine edition

German women's magazine "Frau Im Speigel" also ran a story earlier this week entitled "Prince Harry in Iraq?"

Without confirming any deployment, it quoted a anonymous "royal" source, saying"“it is quite conceivable that Harry is serving in Iraq or Afghanistan".

"I am very disappointed that foreign websites have decided to run this story without consulting us," said Sir Richard.

[Yerdaddy]

Hate Matt Drudge if you must, but he didn't break the story first


Because it had been broken by two magazines nobody's ever heard of. And yet, oddly enough, weeks after these stories broke British commanders decided they could still safely keep the prince in the field. Perhaps that's because they could safely assume the Taliban isn't seeking out actionable intelligence from an obscure magazine entitled "Woman in the Mirror" in German?

The way it works, for you zealots out there, is this: leaking classified national security information - whether it's a high-value person in a position to be kidnapped by terrorists, or a covert intelligence officer who's part of a clandestine network gathering WMD intelligence - is DESTRUCTIVE, UNPATRIOTIC, AND PUTS LIVES AND NATIONAL SECURITY (OURS AND OUR ALLIES) IN DANGER - EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST TO OPEN YOUR FUCKING MOUTH ABOUT IT! There are no fucking loopholes for such a thing. If you do it, you should be sodomized by Ebola-infected hyeenas, and not rub-and-tugged by your ideological co-religionists!

What if Prince Boy Band had been captured before he could have been withdrawn after the story had broken? What would Britain have no choice but to pay for his return? Hundreds of millions of dollars to our enemies? A full or partial troop withdrawall? High value al-Qaeda prisoners? Matt Drudge either didn't ask himself this question or he didn't care about the answer and he let the world know this terrorist bonanza was out there, while the entire "mainstream" US and UK media kept it's mouth shut for months. Fuck Drudge. I wish we still lived in a country where genuine traitors were driven from our shores or garrotted in a back alley and pissed on by stray dogs and out-of-work street kids.

And by the way I don't think Little Lord Fancypants should have been there in the first place for this very reason. His presence jepardized the overall mission just so a royal twat can get his props and justify his golden welfare check and free ass for life. Fuck him. He wants to be "just like other people" he can give his castles to charity and get a fucking job. But he shouldn't be allowed to fucking undermine a war mission that's fucked up enough without his dumb ass.

That being said, once he's there, Drudge needs to shut his fucking pie hole or get it reemed by jackals. Fucking traitor.

[scottinnj]

And by the way I don't think Little Lord Fancypants should have been there in the first place for this very reason. His presence jepardized the overall mission just so a royal twat can get his props and justify his golden welfare check and free ass for life. Fuck him. He wants to be "just like other people" he can give his castles to charity and get a fucking job. But he shouldn't be allowed to fucking undermine a war mission that's fucked up enough without his dumb ass.



Hey Hey Hey!!!! Little Lord Fancypants has 30 kills. He can drink from my canteen anytime!

[scottinnj]

Having said that, I find it hypocritical of some to criticize the fact that prince Harry is in Afghanistan while at the same time say "Why doesn't Bush send his daughters to war! It's good enough for the Joe Six Pack to send his kids to war, why not Bush?"

Are we to keep Jim Webb and John McCain's kids out of the theater of combat, just because they are the kids of elected officials?

[mdr55]

And by the way I don't think Little Lord Fancypants should have been there in the first place for this very reason. His presence jepardized the overall mission just so a royal twat can get his props and justify his golden welfare check and free ass for life. Fuck him. He wants to be "just like other people" he can give his castles to charity and get a fucking job. But he shouldn't be allowed to fucking undermine a war mission that's fucked up enough without his dumb ass.


I actually give kudos to Prince Harry for actually serving in his military, at least he doesn't live in a bubble like some of our leaders in charge of our democracy. If George W Bush and Dick Cheney had some actually military experience, maybe they wouldn't have been so Gun Ho to go into Iraq (unless they knew that Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction because we sold it to them to keep Iran in line).

[scottinnj]

I actually give kudos to Prince Harry for actually serving in his military, at least he doesn't live in a bubble like some of our leaders in charge of our democracy. If George W Bush and Dick Cheney had some actually military experience, maybe they wouldn't have been so Gun Ho to go into Iraq (unless they knew that Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction because we sold it to them to keep Iran in line).

That is another point well-taken. Military service does not always equal good foreign policy judgement. Hell, I have military experience, do you want me to be President?

[mdr55]

That is another point well-taken. Military service does not always equal good foreign policy judgement. Hell, I have military experience, do you want me to be President?


Scottinnj for Prez!!!!!!!!

[Yerdaddy]

Having said that, I find it hypocritical of some to criticize the fact that prince Harry is in Afghanistan while at the same time say "Why doesn't Bush send his daughters to war! It's good enough for the Joe Six Pack to send his kids to war, why not Bush?"

Are we to keep Jim Webb and John McCain's kids out of the theater of combat, just because they are the kids of elected officials?

You won't catch me saying that unless it's a joke or a rhetorical point - that the administration is playing fast and loose with other people's children. But ultimately if the presense of high profile political elite on the battlefield comes wth a higher risk to the overall mission than their services provide then of course they shouldn't be sent out there. It's a simple cost/benefit analysis, which these wars could have done with a lot more from the beginning.

While John McCain was being held as a POW his father was appointed to commander of all US forces in Vietnam. As a result, his captors offered to release him for the PR benefits of showing mercy to a well-known figure. McCain refused.

In these wars we cannot expect our enemies to treat high-profile captives the same way. Going back to the era of kidnappings in Lebanon by Hizballah and Islamic Jihad, and the resulting payoffs like Reagan's arms-for-hostages deal, that important hostages can be worth a lot more than some hippie NGO worker. They can get a significant military advantage in return for these people and they know it and we know it, and our commanders have no business putting those people in a place where we could lose them. They can serve on ships, in the Green Zone or in any number of capacities where the risks of capture was low. Harry was spotting air strikes on enemy positions. While I commend his desire to perform that duty, it's stupid of his commanders to allow him to do it.

The Bush daughter's should be serving in USO brothels servicing the troops on shore leave. Their motto should be: "In my rear with your gear, soldier!"

[A.J.]

The Bush daughter's should be serving in USO brothels servicing the troops on shore leave. Their motto should be: "In my rear with your gear, soldier!"

"Hell, I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my daughters."

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