Senator implicated in DC Madam case

[Fezticle98]

I guess this is news.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/10/vitter.madam/index.html

[DolaMight]

Nope, god forgave him before the story broke so it's non-news. 7 years ago it never really happened.

[foodcourtdruide]

This is totally news because of this:

"A staunch conservative, Vitter disavowed same-sex unions during his 2004 campaign, boasting that he had co-authored and fought for the Federal Marriage Amendment. He further vowed to protect "the sanctity of marriage.""

The more of these hypocrites that are exposed the better. Maybe we'll get our damn country back.

[A.J.]

"This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible," Vitter said. "Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and from my wife in confession and marriage counseling."

Hmmm. Funny how these people always hear God after they fuck up.

How come it wasn't "God told me not to fuck that hooker"?

[Yerdaddy]

http://www.stairstars.com/updatepics/BEST_LITTLE_WHOREHOUSE_IN_TEXAS-23.jpg

"Ooh I love to dance a little sidestep, Now they see me now they don't--I've come and gone And, ooh I love to sweep around the wide step, Cut a little swathe and lead the people on."

I'm guessing three people will get this reference.

[epo]

Don't mess with the Governor!

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[HBox]

Today's fun fact: Larry Flynt was reportedly the one who exposed that Vitter was on that madam's list. Vitter got his start in politics when he was elected to the House of Representatives to replace Bob Livingston who resigned when Larry Flynt exposed his extra-marital affair.

[Bulldogcakes]

I guess this is news.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/10/vitter.madam/index.html

Is it really? Unless there's some hypocrisy that connects to his work as a congressman, I don't care a wit about his personal life.


and sorry but this doesn't qualify. Nice try.

A staunch conservative, Vitter disavowed same-sex unions during his 2004 campaign, boasting that he had co-authored and fought for the Federal Marriage Amendment. He further vowed to protect "the sanctity of marriage."

This is just voyeurism, not news, and I thought CNN had higher standards than this. I personally support allowing gay marriage, but understand the concerns of those who oppose it. He can strive to 'protect' marriage in his view and still have problems in his own marriage without being a hypocrite.

Still none of anyone's business.

[cupcakelove]

Is it really? Unless there's some hypocrisy that connects to his work as a congressman, I don't care a wit about his personal life.


and sorry but this doesn't qualify. Nice try.



This is just voyeurism, not news, and I thought CNN had higher standards than this. I personally support allowing gay marriage, but understand the concerns of those who oppose it. He can strive to 'protect' marriage in his view and still have problems in his own marriage without being a hypocrite.

Still none of anyone's business.

He used the 'sanctity of marriage' argument against same sex marriage, while at the same time he was using an escort service behind his wifes back. That sounds hypocritical to me.

[scottinnj]

I hate people like this. Whatever your views are on marriage, it is tough to maintain with money, work, kids, etc. etc. Guys like this are failures to me. If you want to cheat on your wife, fine. Divorce her first, give her the alimony she deserves, and then fuck away.
Don't give me the "my pussy hurts" excuse that the "relationship is strained." If it's strained, heal it or keep your mouth shut and ride it out, or end it amicably.

It's fuckos like this that pander to us social/economic conservatives with empty rhetoric and expect us to stand with them when they screw up.

We can do better then this. Liberal, Progressive, or Conservative, how you treat your family and spouse is a reflection on how you would treat your constituents when you make promises to them. This dude is a fucko and I hope he is booted out of office next time he is up for re-election.

[Bulldogcakes]

He used the 'sanctity of marriage' argument against same sex marriage, while at the same time he was using an escort service behind his wifes back. That sounds hypocritical to me.

Thats between him and his wife. Unless you know the intimate details of their relationship, I'd steer clear of stuff like this.

Its just a political cheap shot. You can have a good, honest debate about whether Gay Marriage makes sense or not without getting into these personal attacks.

[cupcakelove]

Thats between him and his wife. Unless you know the intimate details of their relationship, I'd steer clear of stuff like this.

Its just a political cheap shot. You can have a good, honest debate about whether Gay Marriage makes sense or not without getting into these personal attacks.

Normally I would agree, but if you're going to use the 'marriage is sacred' argument to trample on a groups civil rights, then you sure as hell better actually believe that what you're preaching. The guy is a hypocritical homophobe and he deserves any bad press he gets.

[FUNKMAN]

Hypocrisy!

nothing new, the country was built on it...

[Ritalin]

RE: gay marriage

I had a very interesting conversation with a gay a couple of weeks ago. He said that he didn't care what you called it, he just wanted the same thing the rest of us get. His solution is that everyone gets a civil union from the government, then if you want to get married, you go to church and get married.

I think that's a perfect solution.

[Landblast]

How come it wasn't "God told me not to fuck that hooker"?

it was, except it was " God it feels good to fuck that hooker"

[Fezticle98]

He used the 'sanctity of marriage' argument against same sex marriage, while at the same time he was using an escort service behind his wifes back. That sounds hypocritical to me.

Not only did he soil the sanctity of his marriage, he also soiled the sanctity of his home!

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[Bulldogcakes]

RE: gay marriage

I had a very interesting conversation with a gay a couple of weeks ago. He said that he didn't care what you called it, he just wanted the same thing the rest of us get. His solution is that everyone gets a civil union from the government, then if you want to get married, you go to church and get married.

I think that's a perfect solution.

I agree. Thats not even a solution or compromise, its all that gay people have actually ever been asking for in the first place.

The reason I think many people oppose Gay marriage is they think their church will be forced to marry gay people. They won't, at least not right away. But that is a VERY realistic fear, because many faith-based charities are funded with Federal dollars. Once gay marriage becomes law, and gains acceptance in society, then gay activists will look to go after the churches for acting "discriminatory" while using public funds. Many will feel pressure to allow gay unions, which their religion forbids.

In order to allow gay unions, you have to protect the churches ability to practice their religion and still operate and exist in a free society. Then you have to figure out how to get that past the Supreme Court. Which has already upheld things like Title 9 which force private schools to offer equal access to men and women in athletics on the same basis, non-descrimination or give up federal funding. That part, I don't think is doable.

[epo]

I agree. Thats not even a solution or compromise, its all that gay people have actually ever been asking for in the first place.

The reason I think many people oppose Gay marriage is they think their church will be forced to marry gay people. They won't, at least not right away. But that is a VERY realistic fear, because many faith-based charities are funded with Federal dollars. Once gay marriage becomes law, and gains acceptance in society, then gay activists will look to go after the churches for acting "discriminatory" while using public funds. Many will feel pressure to allow gay unions, which their religion forbids.

In order to allow gay unions, you have to protect the churches ability to practice their religion and still operate and exist in a free society. Then you have to figure out how to get that past the Supreme Court. Which has already upheld things like Title 9 which force private schools to offer equal access to men and women in athletics on the same basis, non-descrimination or give up federal funding. That part, I don't think is doable.

That statement for me is a real fucking problem. It's a fatted cow that should be cut out of the federal budget.

[Bulldogcakes]

That statement for me is a real fucking problem. It's a fatted cow that should be cut out of the federal budget.

It shouldn't be. They do work that's needed by the Government. Drug treatment programs, distributing food and clothes to the homeless and poor families, etc, etc. The government generally spends its money into the private sector. When they buy a military aircraft, its from a private firm. When they pave the roads, they hire a private contractor. When they need alot of poverty related services, they go to local charities many of which are affiliated with local churches. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Actually, its usually a good deal for the Government. Many of the people who do the work are volunteers, and the taxpayer saves big as a result. Just because a charity is affiliated with some religious group (and most Americans are) doesn't mean they don't get to petition the government for federal funds any less than you or anyone else does.

If you wanted to stop this, you'd basically have to shut down the entire state of Utah.

[scottinnj]

RE: gay marriage

I had a very interesting conversation with a gay a couple of weeks ago. He said that he didn't care what you called it, he just wanted the same thing the rest of us get. His solution is that everyone gets a civil union from the government, then if you want to get married, you go to church and get married.

I think that's a perfect solution.


Whoever that was, tell 'em to write their senator. I've been thinking the same thing.
"Marriage" is essentially a religious term, so in order for the legal part, the "licensing" aspect of it should be secular in nature so it doesn't pander nor offend religious institutions. Then if a couple, gay or straight, wants to be "married" to uphold their religious beliefs, they can go to a church or synagouge to do so. There are plenty of churches now that will marry straight or gay, so why not take the religion out of it? To make it a legally binding document for the equal rights and such, the license should be signed by a judge. Then there should be an optional blank area for a preacher or rabbi to be able to sign for the couple to have a legal document before their God.
Easy Cheesey Lemon Squeasy.

[high fly]

Let's hope this is not just another lie from the Republicans:
Vitter, 46, has been serving in Washington since 1999, when he won a special election for a House seat vacated by Rep. Robert Livingston Jr. who, according to the Newhouse News Service, was expected to succeed Newt Gingrich as House speaker until allegations surfaced that he had extramarital affairs.

Asked in March 2000 if she would be as forgiving as Livingston's wife, Bonnie, or Hillary Clinton if she learned her husband had an affair, Wendy Vitter told Newhouse News Service that she would not.

"I'm a lot more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary," Wendy Vitter said, referring to the woman who cut off her husband's penis after he allegedly raped her. "If he does something like that, I'm walking away with one thing, and it's not alimony -- trust me."

And who knows, maybe we will have a Republican in a sex scandal who actully got laid for a change!

I mean,
* there was that other chap, Randall Tobias who was implicated in the scandal,
* then there was the representative from Florida mashing on underage pages,
* the fella who was married to 6 of 9 on one-a them Star Trek shows,
* Bob Packwood never got any,
* neither did John Tower,
and a number of other Republicans who have been shamed by sex scandals in which they didn't get laid.

[epo]

It shouldn't be. They do work that's needed by the Government. Drug treatment programs, distributing food and clothes to the homeless and poor families, etc, etc. The government generally spends its money into the private sector. When they buy a military aircraft, its from a private firm. When they pave the roads, they hire a private contractor. When they need alot of poverty related services, they go to local charities many of which are affiliated with local churches. Nothing wrong with that whatsoever. Actually, its usually a good deal for the Government. Many of the people who do the work are volunteers, and the taxpayer saves big as a result. Just because a charity is affiliated with some religious group (and most Americans are) doesn't mean they don't get to petition the government for federal funds any less than you or anyone else does.

If you wanted to stop this, you'd basically have to shut down the entire state of Utah.

Find me an example of a non-Christian charity that gets federal government dollars. Can't....sorry the practice is a little theocratic for my taste. Where's the Establishment Clause when you need it?

Fuck Utah.

[Bulldogcakes]

Find me an example of a non-Christian charity that gets federal government dollars. Can't....sorry the practice is a little theocratic for my taste. Where's the Establishment Clause when you need it?

Fuck Utah.

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Roughly 4 billion a year.

[scottinnj]

Find me an example of a non-Christian charity that gets federal government dollars. Can't....sorry the practice is a little theocratic for my taste. Where's the Establishment Clause when you need it?

Fuck Utah.


The United Way.

[prothunderball]

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Roughly 4 billion a year.

Roughly a country not a charity. I know one could say that "aid" is a form of charity, but to say that it is the same is as a giving money to a church handing out hot lunches in inner city Detroit is at best hyperbole and to me it just comes off as either ignorant or unnecessarily sarcastic.

[Bulldogcakes]

That was a joke.


and a good one.

[prothunderball]

That was a joke.


and a good one.

apparently, I can never tell if people are joking or just stupid, it seems to be an even split most of the time, I just figure it's better to err on the side of stupid.

[Bulldogcakes]

Oops wrong thread

[HBox]

The United Way.

They're Unitarians.

[scottinnj]

Wait, what, really?

Never knew that.


Okay................................how about............................................. .


.................................................. .....March of dimes?

[scottinnj]

apparently, I can never tell if people are joking or just stupid, it seems to be an even split most of the time, I just figure it's better to err on the side of stupid.
Now that's a joke, and it's funny too!

[HBox]

Wait, what, really?

Never knew that.


Okay................................how about............................................. .


.................................................. .....March of dimes?

No, not really.

[Yerdaddy]

Campaigning and voting to keep gay Americans from being able to choose who they marry on the basis of the "sanctity" of marriage while your fucking whores behind your wife's back is fucking news. It's something his electorate has a right to know. It's also a crime. Until all Americans can choose who they can and can't marry there is no sanctity in marriage. It's republicans who've made it a political tool to punish a minority for their own political gain, and it's usually republicans who are shitting all over that supposed sacred institution.

[Fat_Sunny]

and it's usually republicans who are shitting all over that supposed sacred institution.

What Is Your Source To Support This Accusation? Without A Study Or Statistics To Back This Claim, It Is Just More Lunatic Ranting. Statistics, Please!

[Yerdaddy]

What Is Your Source To Support This Accusation? Without A Study Or Statistics To Back This Claim, It Is Just More Lunatic Ranting. Statistics, Please!

You made me laugh on that one. Thank you.

[high fly]

Campaigning and voting to keep gay Americans from being able to choose who they marry on the basis of the "sanctity" of marriage while your fucking whores behind your wife's back is fucking news. It's something his electorate has a right to know. It's also a crime. Until all Americans can choose who they can and can't marry there is no sanctity in marriage. It's republicans who've made it a political tool to punish a minority for their own political gain, and it's usually republicans who are shitting all over that supposed sacred institution.


Yeah, all his "family values" rhetoric is coming back to haunt him.
Alan Colmes has a nice selection he has been reading on his radio show.
Stuff like protecting the family being the most important issue in America.

In one particularly juicy one, Vitter called on President Clinton to resign and get the whole Lewinsky mess behind him.

[high fly]

Let's hope this is not just another lie from the Republicans:


And who knows, maybe we will have a Republican in a sex scandal who actully got laid for a change!

I mean,
* there was that other chap, Randall Tobias who was implicated in the scandal,
* then there was the representative from Florida mashing on underage pages,
* the fella who was married to 6 of 9 on one-a them Star Trek shows,
* Bob Packwood never got any,
* neither did John Tower,
and a number of other Republicans who have been shamed by sex scandals in which they didn't get laid!

The Florida chap was Mark Foley and let's not forget Tom Delay.

So the revised list of Republicans who got into sex scandals without having sex is:

* Randall Tobias

* Mark Foley

* Bob Packwood

* Tom Delay

* John Tower

* The chap who was married to the babe on Star Trek



Anyone else seeing a pattern here?




.

[A.J.]

The Florida chap was Mark Foley and let's not forget Tom Delay.

I must have forgotten -- when was Tom DeLay involved in a sex scandal?