Future People

[sr71blackbird]

Could people from the future be coming back to this time? If time travel becomes possible in the future, do you think they would come back in time to prevent things or manipulate things that are happening now from fuckin up future events?

http://www.nma.gov.au/shared/libraries/images/temporary_exhibitions/collector_cam_king/slideshow_large/futuristic_toy_car/files/16980/11%20Futuristic%20toy%20car_w480.jpg

[A.J.]

I'm pretty sure The Prime Directive forbids that.

[Don Stugots]

I would go back in time stirctly to observe events.


and maybe one time to kick my dad in the ass.

[SHANEFROMGA]

Isn't Time A Loop? One Thing Has To Happen So That The Other Down The Line Can?
LIKE THING IS FUTURE CAN'T BE CHANGED BECAUSE BY GOING BACK TO THE PAST, YOU MADE THE FUTURE BE THE WAY IT IS ?
SOMETHING LIKE THIS

The grandfather paradox is a paradox of time travel, first described by the science fiction writer René Barjavel in his 1943 book "Le Voyageur Imprudent" ("The Imprudent Traveller").[1] The paradox is this: Suppose a man traveled back in time and killed his biological grandfather before the latter met the traveller's grandmother. As a result, one of the traveller's parents (and by extension, the traveller himself) would never have been conceived. This would imply that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which in turn implies the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived, allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather. Thus each possibility seems to imply its own negation, a type of logical paradox.

[JPMNICK]

from what i understand you will only be able to time travel forward. like you can leave earth, travel in space for say 10 years, and come back here and it will be 2000 years later. i do not think you can leave here and come back in the 1950's.

to go back in time, you would need to be able to travel faster than the speed of light, which as we comprehend it is impossible with the physcics we know, due to the amount of Energy required, which I think would be infinite.

[Reephdweller]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/bonzai_bartender/DocBrown.jpg

Do you know what this means?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I'm pretty sure The Prime Directive forbids that.

Temporal Prime Directive. THE Prime Directive only deals with here and now. Give me your IDIC badge, you're not worthy of it.

[King Hippos Bandaid]

oh Id be making bets aka Back to the Future

mostly in horses because I can make my bets time to time and make huge winning

:king:

[JPMNICK]

Isn't Time A Loop? One Thing Has To Happen So That The Other Down The Line Can?
LIKE THING IS FUTURE CAN'T BE CHANGED BECAUSE BY GOING BACK TO THE PAST, YOU MADE THE FUTURE BE THE WAY IT IS ?
SOMETHING LIKE THIS

The grandfather paradox is a paradox of time travel, first described by the science fiction writer René Barjavel in his 1943 book "Le Voyageur Imprudent" ("The Imprudent Traveller").[1] The paradox is this: Suppose a man traveled back in time and killed his biological grandfather before the latter met the traveller's grandmother. As a result, one of the traveller's parents (and by extension, the traveller himself) would never have been conceived. This would imply that he could not have travelled back in time after all, which in turn implies the grandfather would still be alive, and the traveller would have been conceived, allowing him to travel back in time and kill his grandfather. Thus each possibility seems to imply its own negation, a type of logical paradox.

i think of these scenarios along the same line as Isaac Asimov's Robot Rules. they were both science fiction writers who penned a nice story, but there is no scientific proof for the above statement. and in fact, i think all of asimov's laws have been broken with the robots we have today.

if the grandfather paradox was true, in my mind, it would discount time travel into the past all together, because even one small change would have an affect on something. maybe not the time traveller, but other people in the future. so in that sense, you would be disrupting something. the only explanation might be that when you travelled back in time, you moved to a new, paralell dimension which allows you to interact with your surroundings. string theory might allows this to be true, but in that case you would be allowed to kill your grandfather because he could be living in an infinate other number of dimensions.

[MadBiker]

Ray Bradbury explored this possiblity in the short story "A Sound of Thunder."

Fantastic read. I love Bradbury.

See also Chaos Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory) for an interesting look at the way mathematicians and physicists analyze this philosophical ponderance.

[Reephdweller]

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/d/images/donnie-darko-8.jpg

Two Donnie Darko time travel posts in minutes by Reephy....can he go back and change things?

Why is he posting in third person?


Am I really F_S?

[A.J.]

Temporal Prime Directive. THE Prime Directive only deals with here and now. Give me your IDIC badge, you're not worthy of it.

You know what I meant! "From Hell's heart I stab at thee!!"

[Fat_Sunny]

F_S Has A Suspicion That People From The Future Are Already Back Here, Scoping Things Out. Maybe They Fit Right In, But Maybe They Don't. Maybe They Have Super-Sophistication, Or Maybe They're Just As Goofy As The Rest Of You People.

Maybe They Speak And Write Differently In The Future, And Maybe They're Already Here!

They Would Probably Be Pretty Clever, So How Would You People Know?

[suggums]

ever look into the whole john titor thing?

[sr71blackbird]

I used to "make pretend" that my future self would travel back in time and was observing me, and about to prevent me from making a life changing decision.


I wonder if we could hold the future for ransom?

[Reephdweller]

Speaking of Back to the Future. One of the quandaries I've always had with the trilogy is this...

If Bif from the future went back to the 50's to give young Bif the Gray's Sports Almanac to make himself a rich success - it would mean then that he altered the future which would stop future Bif from ever getting the almanac in the first place and having access to the Delorean/time machine thus preventing him from going back in time!!!!!

discuss....

http://www.movievillains.com/images/bifftannen.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Stargate/8653/biff851.jpg

http://www.apocprod.com/images/Props/grayssportsalmanac.jpg

[sr71blackbird]

Right! How can he modify his past without it destroying his "present" that is enabling him to go make the decision to go back and modify his past?

[LiddyRules]

Seriously, why would they come back to this time? The only thing that is even mildly cool about today is the technology and if you can go back in time, you'd scoff at a fucking Ipod Nano. "Oooo I can do Excel on the go!!!! 2007 is awesome."

I don't mean to sound like Blowhard but really, overall, culturally and people-wise any other decade (early 90s more so than late 90s) would be so much more interesting.

[Judge Smails]

I happened to watch the entire BTTF trilogy On Demand yesterday (I'm immobile with a possibly broken ankle and heavily medicated - I feel like Jimmy Stewart in Rear Window)

Anywho - the Doc explains it off by saying that when Biff gave himself the almanac in the past he created an alternate timeline which skewed off at that point and created an alternate reality. This is bogus because when Marty and the Doc return back to 1985 from 2015 they should have stayed on the same timelineas the one they left from. Instead they inexplicably jumped to the other timeline where Biff ran everything.

Just keep telling yourself: "It's only a movie."

[Reephdweller]

I happened to watch the entire BTTF trilogy On Demand yesterday (I'm immobile with a possibly broken ankle and heavily medicated - I feel like Jimmy Stewart in Rear Window)

Anywho - the Doc explains it off by saying that when Biff gave himself the almanac in the past he created an alternate timeline which skewed off at that point and created an alternate reality. This is bogus because when Marty and the Doc return back to 1985 from 2015 they should have stayed on the same timelineas the one they left from. Instead they inexplicably jumped to the other timeline where Biff ran everything.

Just keep telling yourself: "It's only a movie."


That's exactly the contradiction for me.

[sr71blackbird]

Im now wondering if it would have been the "same" Marty and Doc!??

[JPMNICK]

Im now wondering if it would have been the "same" Marty and Doc!??

it's amazing someone like you has a brother as cool as Reef

[cougarjake13]

Ray Bradbury explored this possiblity in the short story "A Sound of Thunder."

Fantastic read. I love Bradbury.

See also Chaos Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory) for an interesting look at the way mathematicians and physicists analyze this philosophical ponderance.

i didnt read it but i saw the movie

it was a good movie that i didnt even know got made, maybe it went straight to dvd