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scottinnj
07-16-2007, 11:55 AM
It isn't the first time he's done this. And it is a political cartoon and nothing more. But sometimes isn't just needed to be said to just leave the soldiers out of the argument? They're doing what they're told, no matter who the Commander in Chief is.

Take a look at it, and form your own opinion. And never let it be said he should not be allowed to print this. I'm glad he did, now I know how his mind works.


http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o217/themarshal/TedRallCartoon.gif

A.J.
07-17-2007, 03:24 AM
He's no Charles Schultz.

Crispy123
07-17-2007, 07:45 AM
After reading his bio (http://www.tedrall.com/about.htm) I'll say he seems like an interesting guy who might have some valid input on the war in the Middle East. On the other hand he obviously has not served in the military and is resentful/jealous of those that do. That can be the only reason I can think of to make fun of the people that are defending this nation from enemies that we had pre 9/11 and the ones we now have post 9/11.

The comic is a poor attempt to get us to "know" the suicide bombers we are facing. They are sons and daughters like the ones we have sent over. The people we have are not mindless religious zealots, though, they are people doing a job. They make a difference and all the people that have done it for the last 230 some odd years did too. This guy is a jerk and Ill defend his right to express himself to the death.

JohnWC
07-17-2007, 07:55 AM
What an asshole.

Basedow
07-17-2007, 07:57 AM
After reading his bio (http://www.tedrall.com/about.htm) I'll say he seems like an interesting guy who might have some valid input on the war in the Middle East. On the other hand he obviously has not served in the military and is resentful/jealous of those that do. That can be the only reason I can think of to make fun of the people that are defending this nation from enemies that we had pre 9/11 and the ones we now have post 9/11.

The comic is a poor attempt to get us to "know" the suicide bombers we are facing. They are sons and daughters like the ones we have sent over. The people we have are not mindless religious zealots, though, they are people doing a job. They make a difference and all the people that have done it for the last 230 some odd years did too. This guy is a jerk and Ill defend his right to express himself to the death.

I disagree.The guy isn't blindly attacking ALL troops he is attacked SOME DUMB troops. Actually i think its more a criticism of American society than of any individuals. I think he is attacking the source of SOME Americans ignorance about why we are fighting and the lack of understanding in American society about what the hell is actually going on with all this. just happens to be using the troops as an example of how the way our society works ends up screwing these guys.

Also I don't really understand what basis you have to claim that he is jealous of those that serve in the military.

Crispy123
07-17-2007, 08:38 AM
I disagree.The guy isn't blindly attacking ALL troops he is attacked SOME DUMB troops. Actually i think its more a criticism of American society than of any individuals. I think he is attacking the source of SOME Americans ignorance about why we are fighting and the lack of understanding in American society about what the hell is actually going on with all this. just happens to be using the troops as an example of how the way our society works ends up screwing these guys.

Also I don't really understand what basis you have to claim that he is jealous of those that serve in the military.

The fact that he is attacking any of the troops without having served in the military himself is the basis of my point. Americans are ignorant; I get it. If he has never served he can't really joke about the reason why others have. On second thought, he actually can joke and that is a great thing.

Basedow
07-17-2007, 09:32 AM
I get it. If he has never served he can't really joke about the reason why others have.

word. i think i can get behind that sentiment a little bit more.

MellySmelly
07-17-2007, 09:46 AM
If I had a cock, I'd slap him with it!

underdog
07-17-2007, 11:30 AM
I don't think he's poking fun at the troops as much as he's poking fun at our views on the "enemy". Americans think they are all these crazy zealots that we have nothing in common with, when maybe we're actually a little closer than people want to realize. We're just on different sides (religions).

DarkHippie
07-17-2007, 04:18 PM
He hasn't served in the military, but he has been over in iraq and afghanistan as a journalist many times. I'm surprised that this is the cartoon tha tpeople jumped on, some of his basically call amercian troops rapists and murderers

Bulldogcakes
07-17-2007, 04:27 PM
I disagree.The guy isn't blindly attacking ALL troops he is attacked SOME DUMB troops.

Really? Where exactly did he make that distinction? I guess I missed it.

Bulldogcakes
07-17-2007, 04:37 PM
I don't think he's poking fun at the troops as much as he's poking fun at our views on the "enemy". Americans think they are all these crazy zealots that we have nothing in common with, when maybe we're actually a little closer than people want to realize. We're just on different sides (religions).

I think you nailed it, but there are better ways to get that point across. He's also obviously trying to provoke a reaction, and he's succeeded.

But the headline of "Suicide Bomber", making a comparison of US troops and insane people who intentionally target civilians of no military value is woefully wrongheaded and ignorance of the realities of the world we live in. It displays either some form of arrested development and immaturity or a lack of curiosity when it comes to military matters on his part.

Thats a long winded way of saying he's a big fart head.

DolaMight
07-17-2007, 04:43 PM
"pokes fun"

Pokes Fun? where'd that expression ever come from? I hated when people poked me. My sister is a total bitch.

FUNKMAN
07-17-2007, 04:46 PM
If I had a cock, I'd slap him with it!

here use mine

http://physik.kfunigraz.ac.at/~pxm/GOSAIKUND/Rooster.jpg

Reephdweller
07-17-2007, 04:59 PM
What an ass. I agree with most of the anti war sentiment, but yeah lets leave the soldiers out of this.

Crispy123
07-17-2007, 05:06 PM
He hasn't served in the military, but he has been over in iraq and afghanistan as a journalist many times. I'm surprised that this is the cartoon tha tpeople jumped on, some of his basically call amercian troops rapists and murderers

Thats why I think he probably has some valid points to make about what is going on in the Mid East, because he went over there and saw what is going on for himself. I think he is probably an interesting guy. He can say US troops did some stuff that wasn't good but the ones we know of are being punished. To imply that he knows what is going on in the soldiers head is bullshit because he has never been in their shoes. To put out something like this cartoon only makes him come off as a cocksucker.

DarkHippie
07-17-2007, 05:12 PM
Thats why I think he probably has some valid points to make about what is going on in the Mid East, because he went over there and saw what is going on for himself. I think he is probably an interesting guy. He can say US troops did some stuff that wasn't good but the ones we know of are being punished. To imply that he knows what is going on in the soldiers head is bullshit because he has never been in their shoes. To put out something like this cartoon only makes him come off as a cocksucker.

Don't get me wrong, he's basically the liberal ann coulter, except that he has actually done reporting before. I feel awful that he has the same ideology as me.

Although i think this cartoon was more to point out that one country's solider is another country's terrorist

scottinnj
07-17-2007, 06:32 PM
Don't get me wrong, he's basically the liberal ann coulter, except that he has actually done reporting before. I feel awful that he has the same ideology as me.

Although i think this cartoon was more to point out that one country's solider is another country's terrorist


Don't you hate that stuff? Since I'm a conservative, Ann Coulter is the conservative Ann Coulter (waka waka) and I'm embarassed to have someone like that agreeing with me.


Edit: I wouldn't feel too bad if I were you. Even though I have some problems with Ted Rall, he is nowhere near as nasty as Ann Coulter.

high fly
07-17-2007, 10:43 PM
Not funny.
Cartoons need to be funny.

Our big, brawny, burly members of the military are able to handle this sort of thing. They've been doing it for quite some time now.


No big deal.