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thepaulo
07-24-2007, 04:38 AM
nepotism is crazy in hollywood.....it's so pervasive i could write a book...
sean penn son of TV director leo penn
nicolas cage related to the extensive coppola clan
martin sheen begat charlie and emilio....
but i'm probably most interested in the jon voight/angelina jolie situation beacause of her public animosity toward him.....anyway
who's the bigger star....Jon Voight or Angelina Jolie?
it may seem obvious but i'm not so sure....

MadMatt
07-24-2007, 04:47 AM
nepotism is crazy in hollywood.....it's so pervasive i could write a book...
sean penn son of TV director leo penn
nicolas cage related to the extensive coppola clan
martin sheen begat charlie and emilio....
but i'm probably most interested in the jon voight/angelina jolie situation beacause of her public animosity toward him.....anyway
who's the bigger star....Jon Voight or Angelina Jolie?
it may seem obvious but i'm not so sure....

That's a really good question. Of course Angelina is really hot right now (and has been for a few years), but Jon Voight has had a particularly long career with some very punctuating performances.

I think it depends upon perception - If you see a star as someone with acting chops, I think you have to give it to Voight. However, if you are looking at a star as garnering massive public appeal, then Jolie surpasses her father. It's hard to find someone more physically attractive or adored by the media than Angelina Jolie.

JackStraw
07-24-2007, 05:29 AM
It's not just hollywood, it's everywhere, and certainly the only way to get a decent job (unless you really work your ass off but who wants to do that?)
This whole world is about who you know.

thepaulo
07-24-2007, 07:19 AM
don't forget jon voight is kicking butt in the big budget hit transformers

Yerdaddy
07-24-2007, 11:50 AM
I know which one I really want to fuck.

Doctor Z
07-24-2007, 11:55 AM
I know which one I really want to fuck.

http://www.gorila.sk/i/imgs_orig/020/7020.jpg

Damn right.

hurlmon
07-24-2007, 12:40 PM
I think he has the bigger acting career but she has more fame.

thepaulo
07-27-2007, 01:20 PM
jon voight angelina jolie
3 oscar nominations/one win 1 nomination/one win

some notable credits

national treasure 1 and 2 / beowulf
bratz:the movie / a mighty heart
transformers / the good shepard
glory road / mr & mrs smith
super babies 1 & 2 / alexander
the five people you meet in heaven / sky captain and the world of tomorrow
the mancurian candidate / shark tale
holes / taking lives
ali / beyond borders
zoolander / life or something like it
pearl harbor / original sin
lara croft: tomb raider / lara croft: tomb raider 1 & 2
varsity blues / gone in sixty seconds
enemy of the state / girl, interrupted
the general / the bone collector
the rainmaker / pushing tin
most wanted / playing by heart
u turn / gia
anaconda / playing god
rosewood / george wallace
mission impossible / hackers
heat / cyborg 2
return to lonesome dove
runaway train
the champ
coming home
the odessa file
deliverance
catch 22
midnight cowboy
and
(a plotline in a seinfeld episode)

thepaulo
08-24-2007, 09:04 PM
Jon Voight plays the central role in September Dawn.....
and has an expanded pivitol role in National Treasure 2....
He's kicking Angelina Jolie's ass....
actually.....he probably should done a touch of that when she was rebellious youth

PapaBear
08-24-2007, 09:07 PM
It's not just hollywood, it's everywhere, and certainly the only way to get a decent job (unless you really work your ass off but who wants to do that?)
This whole world is about who you know.
Exactly. Just look at the nepotism in NASCAR. Besides... if you grow up around something that consumes your whole lifestyle, you stand a good chance of being in the same field.

thepaulo
10-15-2007, 01:06 AM
Danny Huston has been stealing scenes and whole movie quietly for the last few years....he does it again in 30 Days of Night....

this is probably more a case of good genes than nepotism....
since his grandfather Walter is an Oscar winner
his father John is an Oscar winner
his sister Angelica is an Oscar winner
his brother Tony has an Oscar nomination.....

his range and magnatism is becoming more and more obvious....it's time for his Oscar

Slumbag
10-15-2007, 02:21 AM
I just have this feeling, by the time it's all said and done, Angelina Jolie will hold up longer.
Voight is winning right now, but he's just older. Jolie still has to go through her Elizabeth Taylor phase and all that. I think it's gonna be years before we know the answer to this one.


Oh, Oh. Plus, she has boobies. :D

drjoek
10-15-2007, 04:39 AM
nepotism is crazy in hollywood.....it's so pervasive i could write a book...
sean penn son of TV director leo penn
nicolas cage related to the extensive coppola clan
martin sheen begat charlie and emilio....
but i'm probably most interested in the jon voight/angelina jolie situation beacause of her public animosity toward him.....anyway
who's the bigger star....Jon Voight or Angelina Jolie?
it may seem obvious but i'm not so sure....


The sun is hot.
Ice is cold
not exactly going out on a limb there

How about all the offspring more recently
Kate hudson
Bruce willis ugly kids
Tom Hanks kids
Enough already

Crispy123
10-15-2007, 04:46 AM
Exactly. Just look at the nepotism in NASCAR. Besides... if you grow up around something that consumes your whole lifestyle, you stand a good chance of being in the same field.

I think you're confusing nepotism and incest. :wink::wink::wink:

thepaulo
11-16-2009, 03:43 AM
Jon Voight is gonna stop saying Angelina Jolie is nuts.

http://www.thecelebritycafe.com/features/35979.html

Jujubees2
11-16-2009, 05:00 AM
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/palm/blog/jalexander_375x375.jpg

I bought Jon Voight's used car.

realmenhatelife
11-17-2009, 11:04 AM
What's the worst thing the Coppola's have done to us? Because that family is responsible for some dirt.

thepaulo
08-29-2011, 03:16 PM
I'm gonna start developing a complete list.
It will probably include thousandsof celebrities
Let's start with the Big ones
Henry, Jane, Peter, Bridget Fonda and Troy Gerrity(Son of Jane and best known for Barbar shop 1 & 2)
Lionel, Ethel, John and Drew Barrymore

Manning, Esq.
08-30-2011, 08:00 AM
My question surrounds whether we can really call this nepotism. The word carries a negative pall, I would say. Were these familial successors unfairly helped into the bus'? Perhaps. I suspect, however, that it's more akin (a-hema) to what others suggested below. That is, how many lawyers beget lawyers? Politicians - politicians. Architects ....

My point is, could it not simply be that the kids of industry folks know the business better than anything else because they're raised in a Hollyhome? Do they not know better what it takes to excel--ie, training, self-promotion, dues-payment, etc.--in entertainment.

Despite all this, I undertstand that without having the famous father, they would very likely never get an "in." Maybe, though, that 'in" isn't worth as much value as nepotism would imply.

Rhah
08-30-2011, 08:17 AM
I think Manning is saying there is nepotism, and then there is Will Smith nepotism! Just buy a movie franchise so your kid can star in it.

Manning, Esq.
08-30-2011, 08:51 AM
I think Manning is saying there is nepotism, and then there is Will Smith nepotism! Just buy a movie franchise so your kid can star in it.

There's an example of nepotism. Thanks, Rhah. At the other end of the spectrum, we'd find "Lost in Translation's" Sophia, for example.

thepaulo
08-30-2011, 11:49 AM
There's an example of nepotism. Thanks, Rhah. At the other end of the spectrum, we'd find "Lost in Translation's" Sophia, for example.

Francis Ford Coppola is a loving nuturing father by all accounts. He put Sophia in Godfather 3 and she was ripped apart.
Years later when her intelligence and sophistication matured, that was forgiven. But much of Sophia's talent bears directly on her access and close proximity to the world her father and other famous realitives inhabited. She livede in a different world than 99%of the rest of us.

Carrie Fischer is another example. She's Princess Laia because she was Hollywood royalty and that kind of snippy superiority came naturally to her. Then she wrote tons of bestsellers about life on the inside.
Her mother is Debbie Reynolds and her father is Eddie Fischer. Let's not mention a string of step moms and dads (like Elizabeth Taylor and Connie Stevens)
Joely Fisher is one of her successful siblings.
Does wacky things like marry Paul Simon for a year then divorce him then date him for another 8 years.

thepaulo
08-31-2011, 08:42 PM
Rosanna, Patricia, David, Alex/Alexia, and Father Lewis and Grand Dad Clifford Arquette


John, Robert, David, Keith Carradine and Half Brother Michael (Crazy Game show dad in Magnolia and Buck the Coma girl pimp in Kill Bill 1) Bowen

Crispy123
09-01-2011, 04:16 AM
http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/jason_sudeikis-horrible_bosses-2.jpg

Jason Sudekeis (SNL, Horribl bosses, hall pass) is the nephew of George Wendt,

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_30-sk8zaaQM/TEh0kzZZ0bI/AAAAAAAAD7Y/CQ0qD8hcysI/s1600/norm3.jpg