A happy ending for a Bill O'Reilly story

[scottinnj]

Story here...clickety clack! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292950,00.html)


I know a lot of you despise O'Reilly altogether, but even with his flaws, I do support him going after these kid touchers. And the beauty of this is the guests who photgraphed a kid are now dead, saving us taxpayers the expense of a trial and jail time.

YAAAY! Old Billy boy did good this time!

[DarkHippie]

I guess now we'll never know if they were guilty.

[DolaMight]

I guess now we'll never know if they were guilty.

Even if they weren't guilty I bet they did something else bad.

[HBox]

Even if they weren't guilty I bet they did something else bad.

They had to have done something bad. Otherwise God wouldn't have let them die.

[scottinnj]

I guess now we'll never know if they were guilty.


I think the guilt from the murder suicide and the photographs of the kid, plus finding the kid later solves your dilemna.


Dead kidtouchers make me happy.

[DarkHippie]

I think the guilt from the murder suicide and the photographs of the kid, plus finding the kid later solves your dilemna.


Dead kidtouchers make me happy.

If I was accused of being a pedophile on national tv, i would kill myself too. And what photographs of the kid? did they have them on them? In the house? was there any proof other than o'reily's words?

They may have been proof, but it doesn't matter now. This was a new twist on an old-fashioned lynching. And if you think I'm exaggerating, look up Leo Frank.

[scottinnj]

If I was accused of being a pedophile on national tv, i would kill myself too. And what photographs of the kid? did they have them on them? In the house? was there any proof other than o'reily's words?

They may have been proof, but it doesn't matter now. This was a new twist on an old-fashioned lynching. And if you think I'm exaggerating, look up Leo Frank.


All due respect, you can call it a lynching, and it just makes me happier. Finally a lynching for a good thing....taking kid touchers out.

Once these cats confess to the cops, they should be taken out back behind the station and have 3 .22's drilled into the back of their heads. Lights out, and done much more humanely then they would do to the kids.

I will never waver on this one. Kid Toucher need the Death Penalty.

[WRESTLINGFAN]

Im sure Olbermann will find a way to name Bill O, worst person in the world

[TheMojoPin]

All due respect, you can call it a lynching, and it just makes me happier. Finally a lynching for a good thing....taking kid touchers out.

Once these cats confess to the cops, they should be taken out back behind the station and have 3 .22's drilled into the back of their heads. Lights out, and done much more humanely then they would do to the kids.

I will never waver on this one. Kid Toucher need the Death Penalty.

I was just surprised to read a really good and kind of scary article about stories like this, especially To Catch a Predator, in, of all places, the lastest issue of Rolling Stone.

These popular "catch a kid toucher"-type shows and groups aren't nearly as cut and dry as we think. A lot of times they're essentially making their own criminals out of these guys.

Worst of all, these types of shows and reports are typical media fear-mongering that completely make up facts and stats just to scare viewers. Apparently the vast majority of child sexual molestation cases are done by someone that the child knows, usually a family friend or family member, so when Dateline throws out something like "there's at any given time 50,000 sexual predators online," they're essentially lying with a completely made up figure to scare you. The article also pointed out that sexual offenders are actually the least likely of "major" criminals to have to be re-arrested again for similar crimes once they've been released.

I'm not trying to let kid touchers off the hoook...the ones who really are are complete scum, but there are a LOT of fucked up issues with this new media "crusade" going on.

[prothunderball]

I was just surprised to read a really good and kind of scary article about stories like this, especially To Catch a Predator, in, of all places, the lastest issue of Rolling Stone.

There's another really good article about To Cactch a Predator in this months Esquire, it's about the DA in Texas that shot himself when Dateline made the local cops call out the fucking SWAT team to arresst one guy alone in his house.

I can't say I'm happy these people are dead, it's just another case of the media acting as judge and jurry before the facts of the case can all be found out.

[IamFogHat]

I don't think O'Reilly can have a happy ending without one of these
http://greenasathistle.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/pouf.jpg

[MikeB]

Fed Ex better watch out.

[PapaBear]

He's just another fake Reilly.

[TheMojoPin]

There's another really good article about To Cactch a Predator in this months Esquire, it's about the DA in Texas that shot himself when Dateline made the local cops call out the fucking SWAT team to arresst one guy alone in his house.

I can't say I'm happy these people are dead, it's just another case of the media acting as judge and jurry before the facts of the case can all be found out.

One of the really fucked up part about the RS article is how they talk about how they use the decoy to call and set up the meeting and egg the guys on to show up if they talk about wanting to call it off...basically insulting them and pushing them into showing up. Now again, just the fact that it got to that point is a huge warning sign with these guys, but if they're trying to call the whole thing off and then they're basically goaded into it, that seems like a really shady gray area.

And then the stuff about the capabailites, practices and attitudes of the Perverted Justice online team is absolutely terrifying.

It's a tough issue since on the surface "kid touching" is such vile thing...but do we really want the 21st century version of frontier posse justice taking the law out of the hands of the authorities?

[HBox]

What's with you people? When has angry mob justice ever gone wrong?

[pennington]

These popular "catch a kid toucher"-type shows and groups aren't nearly as cut and dry as we think. A lot of times they're essentially making their own criminals out of these guys.

I've wondered about this for a while.

Say I take your car and fix it so your speedometer says you're going 65 mph when you're really going 55 mph. A cop then pulls you over and gives you a speeding ticket for going 10 mph over the speed limit. Your defense would be "I wasn't speeding (regardless of what my speedometer said), I was only going 55 mph".

They set-up these "predators" for trying to have sex with a 15 year old girl. But they're really only E-mailing and IMing a 40 year old male detective. So who's the victim here? Nobody's really hurt.

[PapaBear]

If that were true, then they could never charge someone who tries to buy drugs from an undercover cop, or tries to hire an undercover cop to murder someone.

[FUNKMAN]

as soon as the decoy states he/she is underage then the predator should cease at that very moment to continue the exchange. on to catch a predator they are claiming to be 13(if i'm not mistaken)

in the real world there are kids starving for attention so they're not gonna let the attention go so easily. it's ALL on the adult to back away. the decoys are simulating to some extent what may happen in a real exchange

the problem is there are too many underage kids claiming to be older and if they claim to be of legal age then there should be a case for the defendant. it's a tough call because some actually look older than they are but there are others who look their age or younger. you think everyone should be able to tell by someone's appearance what age they are or are close to but it's not the case... then you have to determine what was the predators state of mind, did he think she was younger and didn't care or did he really think she was of age?

[EliSnow]

There's another really good article about To Cactch a Predator in this months Esquire, it's about the DA in Texas that shot himself when Dateline made the local cops call out the fucking SWAT team to arresst one guy alone in his house.



I agree. It was a very good article. One of the things that pissed me off about the article was the fact that, when they were in Texas, none of the guys "caught" were indicted, simply because in the efforts to do the arrest on television, the cops essentially made illegal arrests and the cases had to be thrown out.

[EliSnow]

I've wondered about this for a while.

Say I take your car and fix it so your speedometer says you're going 65 mph when you're really going 55 mph. A cop then pulls you over and gives you a speeding ticket for going 10 mph over the speed limit. Your defense would be "I wasn't speeding (regardless of what my speedometer said), I was only going 55 mph".

They set-up these "predators" for trying to have sex with a 15 year old girl. But they're really only E-mailing and IMing a 40 year old male detective. So who's the victim here? Nobody's really hurt.

Wait, the cops can tell what your speedometer is saying now? Here I thought they used radar to see what speed you actually were going. Technology is so incredible.

First, as the Esquire article states, at least in Texas, it's a crime to have an online sexual conversation with someone who is or represents himself or herself to be a minor.

Second, have you ever heard of someone who is guilty of attempting to commit a crime?

[pennington]

Wait, the cops can tell what your speedometer is saying now? Here I thought they used radar to see what speed you actually were going. Technology is so incredible.

Relax. It was just a hypothetical (that means a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences). See, it worked.

[EliSnow]

Relax. It was just a hypothetical (that means a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test its logical or empirical consequences). See, it worked.

After four years of Ivy League education, and three years of law school, I know what a hypothetical is. I was pointing out that it was a very poor hypothetical.

[pennington]

After four years of Ivy League education, and three years of law school, I know what a hypothetical is. I was pointing out that it was a very poor hypothetical.

Eh. C'est la vie...

[scottinnj]

After four years of Ivy League education, and three years of law school, I know what a hypothetical is. I was pointing out that it was a very poor hypothetical.


But a funny hypothetical. I laughed and laughed.