Rueters: Gonzales resigns as attorney general

[Crispy123]

Story (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2732383720070827)

Good riddance. This guy was involved in the illegal wiretapping and terror detainee fiasco, not to mention he can't remember what he had for breakfast when he is testifying before Congress. This guy is a douche and helped GWB try and rob America of democracy.He should be in prison for crimes against the United States of America.

[Midkiff]

Story (http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2732383720070827)

Good riddance. This guy was involved in the illegal wiretapping and terror detainee fiasco, not to mention he can't remember what he had for breakfast when he is testifying before Congress. This guy is a douche and helped GWB try and rob America of democracy.He should be in prison for crimes against the United States of America.

Thank God. Fuck that douche.

Then again, if he ever gets in trouble, Bush will just pardon him. That's probably why he resigned now, so he can go ahead and get indicted and pardoned before Bush leaves office.

Cunts.

[cupcakelove]

This would be good news if it actually mattered at this point.

[Yerdaddy]

He wants to spend more time waterboarding with his family.

[Recyclerz]

Two down (Gonzo & Rove), all the rest to go. :flush:

[SinA]

Poor Gonzalez. After this horrendous ordeal he's ruined for life, doomed to be nothing more than a CEO of a Fortune-500 company or a president of some private university. Luckily, no long term injustices have been perpetrated from which the American people might never recover.

Oh wait...

[WRESTLINGFAN]

I wonder if she's available for the job

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/350000/images/_352737_reno150.jpg

[scottinnj]

Yaaay!

[PapaBear]

Poor Gonzalez. After this horrendous ordeal he's ruined for life, doomed to be nothing more than a CEO of a Fortune-500 company or a president of some private university. Luckily, no long term injustices have been perpetrated from which the American people might never recover.

Oh wait...
He's also going to have to endure the humiliation of lecturing law students for mass sums of money.

[A.J.]

Rumor is that Chertoff will leave Homeland Security to become AG.

God help us if Bush nominates Fran Townsend (http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/townsend-bio.html)to be Homeland Security chief.

[led37zep]

I never followed this story...honestly.

I don't think most of America really gives a shit about this story. I've had one person in the last year bring this up to me. If what he's being accused of is really the case its kinda shocking that it hasn't been mentioned more in everyday life.

I guess it comes down to the whole "its a recession when your neighbor gets laid off, its a depression when it happens to you" mantra. If it doesn't effect me, it doesn't matter. America has become silly in this way.

[scottinnj]

I never followed this story...honestly.

I don't think most of America really gives a shit about this story. I've had one person in the last year bring this up to me. If what he's being accused of is really the case its kinda shocking that it hasn't been mentioned more in everyday life.

I guess it comes down to the whole "its a recession when your neighbor gets laid off, its a depression when it happens to you" mantra. If it doesn't effect me, it doesn't matter. America has become silly in this way.


Instead of just coming out and saying "we fired these guys because we could so go screw" Gonzales looked like a total douche before the Senate. All the hemming and hawing he did up there made everything else being done in the Justice Department look suspect. All the crying about "illegal wiretaps" was solved when the courts balanced out the Administrations' efforts to try to keep us safe. No civil rights were threatened, and the government is not trying to shred the constitution. The simple fact this messageboard exists even though people believe Bush has taken over the country and is crushing dissent proves that free speech is alive and well in America despite peoples' fears that some Fascist wave has swept over us and we should all live in fear.

Gonzales was an incompetent boob, and I say good riddance to him. Hopefully Orin Hatch will get nominated so we'll get a respectable conservative presence back at the helm of the Justice Department.

[spoon]

Marc with A C loved his hair though!

"Pert perky" he called it. And does anything else matter?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/law/jan-june06/0123_gon_ag4.jpg

[foodcourtdruide]

Instead of just coming out and saying "we fired these guys because we could so go screw" Gonzales looked like a total douche before the Senate. All the hemming and hawing he did up there made everything else being done in the Justice Department look suspect. All the crying about "illegal wiretaps" was solved when the courts balanced out the Administrations' efforts to try to keep us safe. No civil rights were threatened, and the government is not trying to shred the constitution. The simple fact this messageboard exists even though people believe Bush has taken over the country and is crushing dissent proves that free speech is alive and well in America despite peoples' fears that some Fascist wave has swept over us and we should all live in fear.

Gonzales was an incompetent boob, and I say good riddance to him. Hopefully Orin Hatch will get nominated so we'll get a respectable conservative presence back at the helm of the Justice Department.

It's funny how two people could follow the same story and come to completely different conclusions. You are not bothered at all that Alberto Gonzales and Andrew Card COMPLETELY tried to step over the acting Attorney General James Comey by visiting an ill John Ashcroft in the hospital and trying to get him to approve something? Then in front of congress Alberto Gonzales skirted around the issue, lied and embarrassed himself and this country. And you don't see this as our government trying to shred the constitution?

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by the courts balancing out the wiretapping issue. The issue I mentioned above was about a classified wiretapping program. We don't know what it entailed, there has only been speculation. It must have been pretty crazy though, considering the guys behind the Patriot Act deemed it illegal.

This issue is still very much in the air regarding legal ramifications.

[Yerdaddy]

Rumor is that Chertoff will leave Homeland Security to become AG.

God help us if Bush nominates Fran Townsend (http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/townsend-bio.html)to be Homeland Security chief.

Frankly I think we've had enough of God's help with White House decisions in the last 6 years.

Besides, my money is on Ted Nugent for the job.

[A.J.]

He's not leaving Tedquarters in Michigan.

[Yerdaddy]

I never followed this story...honestly.

I don't think most of America really gives a shit about this story. I've had one person in the last year bring this up to me. If what he's being accused of is really the case its kinda shocking that it hasn't been mentioned more in everyday life.

I guess it comes down to the whole "its a recession when your neighbor gets laid off, its a depression when it happens to you" mantra. If it doesn't effect me, it doesn't matter. America has become silly in this way.

I've been following the story. I think the issues it encompasses are hugely important to the country:

1. He's obviously lied under oath to Congress on numerous occasions. (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/opinion/29sun1.html?_r=1&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print)

Mr. Gonzales has now told Congress twice that there was no dissent in the government about Mr. Bush’s decision to authorize the National Security Agency to spy on Americans’ international calls and e-mails without obtaining the legally required warrant. Mr. Mueller and James Comey, a former deputy attorney general, say that is not true. Not only was there disagreement, but they also say that they almost resigned over the dispute.

Both men say that in March 2004 — when Mr. Gonzales was still the White House counsel — the Justice Department refused to endorse a continuation of the wiretapping program because it was illegal. (Mr. Comey was running the department temporarily because Attorney General John Ashcroft had emergency surgery.) Unwilling to accept that conclusion, Vice President Dick Cheney sent Mr. Gonzales and another official to Mr. Ashcroft’s hospital room to get him to approve the wiretapping.

Mr. Comey and Mr. Mueller intercepted the White House team, and they say they watched as a groggy Mr. Ashcroft refused to sign off on the wiretapping and told the White House officials to leave. Mr. Comey said the White House later modified the eavesdropping program enough for the Justice Department to sign off.

Last week, Mr. Gonzales denied that account. He told the Senate Judiciary Committee the dispute was not about the wiretapping operation but was over “other intelligence activities.” He declined to say what those were.

Lawmakers who have been briefed on the administration’s activities said the dispute was about the one eavesdropping program that has been disclosed. So did Mr. Comey. And so did Mr. Mueller, most recently on Thursday in a House hearing. He said he had kept notes.

That was plain enough. It confirmed what most people long ago concluded: that Mr. Gonzales is more concerned about doing political-damage control for Mr. Bush — in this case insisting that there was never a Justice Department objection to a clearly illegal program — than in doing his duty. But the White House continued to defend him.

Also see: Documents contradict Gonzales' testimony (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/congress_gonzales_13&printer=1;_ylt=AnSFmInNHoKMpB6GKbZpvk2WwvIE)

2. The dismissal of US attorneys was clearly an attempt to politicize the Justice Department by removing those who weren't carrying out the White House's political agenda - including opening investigations of Democratic voter fraud cases and ignoring Republican ones to influence elections.

An old friend just arrived. To be continued... maybe...

[A.J.]

An old friend just arrived. To be continued... maybe...

Are you having him for dinner?

http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/oscar2001/history/silence-of-the-lambs.jpg

[Crispy123]

An old friend just arrived. To be continued... maybe...

Old Friends http://www.stjohnlutheranoc.org/images/logos/music%20notes.gif Old Friends

[Midkiff]

I think he did a disservice not only to this country, but to his race. We finally get a Hispanic person at the very highest levels of leadership in this nation, and he blows it for everybody by being a greasy sycophant with no regard for law or justice. I disown him from La Raza! He's not welcome here anymore. He's now officially an old white douchebag.

[spoon]

I think he did a disservice not only to this country, but to his race. We finally get a Hispanic person at the very highest levels of leadership in this nation, and he blows it for everybody by being a greasy sycophant with no regard for law or justice. I disown him from La Raza! He's not welcome here anymore. He's now officially an old white douchebag.

Well it's usually a good bet that any hispanic or african-american republican is insane just by simple logic. What's spanish for uncle tom?

[Fat_Sunny]

What's spanish for uncle tom?

The Term You Are Looking For Is La Bill Richardson !

[Midkiff]

Well it's usually a good bet that any hispanic or african-american republican is insane just by simple logic. What's spanish for uncle tom?

Truer words were never spoken!

The Term You Are Looking For Is La Bill Richardson !

:lol: