Carton and Boomer on WFAN

[Freitag]

So I'm giving the show a listen....

In fairness, I am NOT a huge fan of the Carton and Boomer pairing on paper.

But the formula that seems to work best with Craig is Craig + Nice Guy. Craig and Sid didn't work because they were two antagonists. Craig and Rossi worked because it was Good Cop/Bad Cop. Boomer isn't exactly a "nice guy". He's more of a nice guy than Sid, but he's got more of an edge than Ray.

I like their interview style - Craig asks a question, then Boomer, and they rotate.

So far, it's pretty decent for a first show. It's not as bad as I thought their first show would be, and there seems to be a decent amount of chemistry. They ARE stepping over each other a bit though.

It also seems that Craig has carried over some of his Jersey audience. This is a good thing.

[nevnut]

I think Op just said that Al Dukes went to work for these guys.

[Freitag]

I think Op just said that Al Dukes went to work for these guys.

And Craig just mentioned him on the air. I think both Al and Lou Ruffino are producing the show, but it appears Charles McCord has cut ties with the show. Tracy Burgess is doing news.

[Freitag]

Discussion: Schiano's work at Rutgers, and the potential of Schiano leaving to take over for Paterno at Penn state

Carlin: "You don't want to be the guy that follows The Guy. You want to be the guy AFTER the guy that follows The Guy."

Boomer: "Uh..."

Carton: "Well, you're talking to two guys that followed The Guy..."

I lol'ed.

[Earlshog]

Has Al been on air at all?

[Freitag]

Has Al been on air at all?

He's been mentioned, but not on mic.

[Kris10]

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Craig Carton!!!!! I have a pic of him on my myspace! He also writes for the Gannett sometimes. He knows his shit and calls it like it is.:clap:

[Freitag]

The NYRMB seems to be giving the show positive reviews as well, so I take that as a good sign.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Wow, I think Boomer just set the new radio two-a-day record.

He did a full four-hour morning show this morning and he's currently doing the analysis on Westwood One for the Colts/Saints game.

Which means he's going to do 8 hours of radio over 1000 miles apart.

Marv Albert, who is doing PBP for the game, and whose trademark is just destroying boomer on-the-air, is just ragging on him for being tired. It's funny as hell.

[drjoek]

Boomer will do for sports radio what he did for the NYJets

Which is nothing except take a paycheck

He sucks

[Freitag]

Boomer will do for sports radio what he did for the NYJets

Which is nothing except take a paycheck

He sucks

+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Passing | Rushing |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| 1984 cin | 10 | 51 102 50.0 530 5.2 3 3 | 19 63 2 |
| 1985 cin | 15 | 251 431 58.2 3443 8.0 27 12 | 33 79 1 |
| 1986 cin | 16 | 273 469 58.2 3959 8.4 24 17 | 44 146 1 |
| 1987 cin | 12 | 240 440 54.5 3321 7.5 16 19 | 52 241 0 |
| 1988 cin | 16 | 223 388 57.5 3572 9.2 28 14 | 43 248 1 |
| 1989 cin | 16 | 258 455 56.7 3525 7.7 28 11 | 47 278 0 |
| 1990 cin | 16 | 224 402 55.7 3031 7.5 24 22 | 49 157 0 |
| 1991 cin | 14 | 233 413 56.4 2883 7.0 13 16 | 24 66 0 |
| 1992 cin | 12 | 144 278 51.8 1407 5.1 11 15 | 21 66 0 |
| 1993 nyj | 16 | 288 473 60.9 3421 7.2 16 11 | 45 118 1 |
| 1994 nyj | 15 | 255 440 58.0 2782 6.3 17 13 | 28 59 0 |
| 1995 nyj | 12 | 221 389 56.8 2275 5.8 16 15 | 19 14 0 |
| 1996 ari | 10 | 190 339 56.0 2293 6.8 11 14 | 15 52 1 |
| 1997 cin | 7 | 118 186 63.4 1478 7.9 13 2 | 8 11 0 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+
| TOTAL | 187 | 2969 5205 57.0 37920 7.3 247 184 | 447 1598 7 |
+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+

You were saying?

His 1993 season he was top-10 in pass attempts, completions, yards, and TD's.



Boomer wasn't great on the Jets, but the entire team was horrific. He did what he could.

[Kris10]

I really miss Carton & Rossi :down: Rossi's new side kick sucks ass!

[Freitag]

I really miss Carton & Rossi :down: Rossi's new side kick sucks ass!

You aren't the only one who feels that way. Why they moved forward with Casey without at least trying out a few people is beyond me.

[Kris10]

I turned 101.5 on yesterday and was like this fuckin sucks!!!!! Casey completely dominates the show, Rossi should run the gig now, why he's in the background is beyond me. I've loved Rossi ever since he was on Y107 but I can't get into Casey at all. I can honestly say if they don't dump him I won't be listening much at all.

[Freitag]

I turned 101.5 on yesterday and was like this fuckin sucks!!!!! Casey completely dominates the show, Rossi should run the gig now, why he's in the background is beyond me. I've loved Rossi ever since he was on Y107 but I can't get into Casey at all. I can honestly say if they don't dump him I won't be listening much at all.

I actually created a genius schedule -

Wakeup to 10am - Carton and Boomer.

10a-12p - last half of O&A + best of

12-3 R&F.

3-7 O&A replay.

[Kris10]

I'm ok with that schedule except I can't stand WFAN New Yorkkkkkkk. F'n hate the METS!!!!! And all other NY teams. Carton & Rossi were on at 2 and I would switch back and forth between them and R&F but I no longer have to worry about that so that problem has been solved. I hate listening to replay if I already listened to the show live thats when I surf XM and hit up the country stations.

[Freitag]

Al was on the air this morning.


Shockingly - and I'm not sure if anyone here will be prepared for this turn of the events - the reason he was on the air was because someone threw him under the bus.

Who saw this coming?

[thelyonhart]

Al was on the air this morning.


Shockingly - and I'm not sure if anyone here will be prepared for this turn of the events - the reason he was on the air was because someone threw him under the bus.

Who saw this coming?

That's bizarre, he's usually so good at staying under the radar, and above scrutiny haha

[Judge Smails]

I don't listen that often, and when I do it's only a few minutes at a time. So, I don't know if this is par for the course, but today both Boomer and Carton were breaking Al Dukes' balls big time. It seems like he put through a guy who claimed that he was one of the guys who caught the Bonds ball.

Carton asked "Are we sure that it's the real guy?" The Fabulous Al Dukes responds that he thinks it is because he asked the guy to swear to God that it was him. Everybody starts laughing and calling Al an idiot and the caller chickens out and winds up hanging up. Al's defense was "Well he swore to God, so he now has to answer to a higher power."

The more things change, the more they stay the same. Miss Al Dukes.

[EddieMoscone]

The show is OK. Carton is definately controlling the show with Boomer chiming in. I can see some point down the line Boomer getting tired of the 3am wake up calls and dropping it, leading to Carton and Continent...

[Freitag]

Craig, Boomer, and Al Dukes are on their way down to NOLA for the MNF game tonight.

Al Dukes... a man... alone... in the french quarter.

[Freitag]

Radio Dentist posted some criticism about the show, faulting them for not "focusing" the show.

Didn't he have the same criticism of Ron and Fez?

[EddieMoscone]

Radio Dentist posted some criticism about the show, faulting them for not "focusing" the show.

Pay that man no mind...

At first I said it was "OK", but I have the change that now and said I think this show is Very Good and constantly improving. Boomer and Carton have better chemistry now and Boomer is not as hesitant to get mixed up in coversation he may have stayed away from in the past.

Plus, Al Dukes sings!

I don't even think about turning to Mike and Mike at this point, and only go to O&A if they start talking about A-Rod AGAIN.

[Freitag]

Pay that man no mind...

At first I said it was "OK", but I have the change that now and said I think this show is Very Good and constantly improving. Boomer and Carton have better chemistry now and Boomer is not as hesitant to get mixed up in coversation he may have stayed away from in the past.

Plus, Al Dukes sings!

I don't even think about turning to Mike and Mike at this point, and only go to O&A if they start talking about A-Rod AGAIN.

I don't, it's just the conversation on the NYRMB amused me; there are people on there who wanted the show to be wall-to-wall sports and dissect every single thing that happened during the Giants game.

I think the funniest quote in the entire thread was the claim that Carton was not a "sports guy".

I will say this; although Carton's got an edge, the bitterness in his voice has disappated a LOT since he left 101.5. You can absolutely tell he's loving working at WFAN.

[pennington]

Didn't he have the same criticism of Ron and Fez?

For some reason I can't figure out, that guy HATES Ron & Fez. And don't try disagreeing with him about anything.

[lleeder]

I like the show and always check it out during O&A commercials. It makes sports alittle less tense and more fun. I like the over the top reactions by Carton too.

[Earlshog]

Al Dukessnag a song about the Giants and Lions match up today, it was a parody on the "lion sleeps tonight"... It will be interesting to see if earl comes in with a "giants fans" song today

[Freitag]

Al Dukessnag a song about the Giants and Lions match up today, it was a parody on the "lion sleeps tonight"... It will be interesting to see if earl comes in with a "giants fans" song today

need a win... need a win... need a win... need a win... ted nugent sucks but bob seger had some good songs

[EddieMoscone]

Al Dukes finally tanked with his song parodies today. He did a song about Thomas Jones to "Mr. Jones". I hope he's not running out of steam already. The previosu songs were bad on purpose but funny, this one was just bad.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Al Dukes finally tanked with his song parodies today. He did a song about Thomas Jones to "Mr. Jones". I hope he's not running out of steam already. The previosu songs were bad on purpose but funny, this one was just bad.

"I wish I could block for him" was pretty funny and kind of gay too.

I actually emailed him with a suggestion.

[Doctor Z]

I wonder if Al will ever be taken seriously in radio.

It seems wherever he goes, he ends up the object of ridicule.

[lleeder]

Al Dukessnag a song about the Giants and Lions match up today, it was a parody on the "lion sleeps tonight"... It will be interesting to see if earl comes in with a "giants fans" song today

I enjoyed it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I wonder if Al will ever be taken seriously in radio.

It seems wherever he goes, he ends up the object of ridicule.

I think that's the point. Al's found his niche.

[Earlshog]

I think that's the point. Al's found his niche.

no doubt... he pulled me into Booker and now the Fans morning show... he def found his niche

[Johnny4]

no doubt... he pulled me into Booker and now the Fans morning show... he def found his niche
This is now my favorite morning terrestrial radio show. How has noone thought of doing a local morning sports show in NY on FAN? Because Imus was so popular?They will take some of Mike and Mike's audience away(espnization of sports is total annoying national sports issues are boring) and will hurt what left of O and A's. I remember likeing Sid(crackhead) and Scott(sportsguys!) but they had no shot of stealing an audience at that time in NY radio.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Another thing that will help out the Fan a lot in this situation is that ESPN does not come in AT ALL in Jersey. Add that to the name recognition that Craig has in NJ, and you've got something cooking.

[Johnny4]

Another thing that will help out the Fan a lot in this situation is that ESPN does not come in AT ALL in Jersey. Add that to the name recognition that Craig has in NJ, and you've got something cooking.
Your right. FAN has the strongest signal in the area. I've actually heard Mad Dog goof on ESPN's shitty signal. I've caught FAN while in Lake George and past Trenton in Jersey.

[JimBeam]

Sorry to resurrect this thread but I've just started listening to these guys over the last month or so because I've gotten bored of Mike & Mike.

I dig the chemistry between Boomer and Chris.

Chris is such a straight forward clown/jackass that it makes him seem personable.

Now I'm sure this has been talked about already but it's my understanding that Chris was on one of the old NEW shows but I'm not sure which one.

The " Sports Guys " show or whatever it was called seemed to have a revolving door so at what time was Carton on there and who was his partner ?

[PD]

Sorry to resurrect this thread but I've just started listening to these guys over the last month or so because I've gotten bored of Mike & Mike.

I dig the chemistry between Boomer and Chris.

Chris is such a straight forward clown/jackass that it makes him seem personable.

Now I'm sure this has been talked about already but it's my understanding that Chris was on one of the old NEW shows but I'm not sure which one.

The " Sports Guys " show or whatever it was called seemed to have a revolving door so at what time was Carton on there and who was his partner ?

I think Carton was the 2nd group - the one just before Ferral.

[JimBeam]

Yeah that's been a while so prob why I'm drawning a blank.

I was just curious.

Thanks for the heads-up.

[Doctor Z]

I actually wake up to this show every morning and I must say, I quite enjoy it. But I've noticed, especially today, that Carton ON HIS OWN, is fucking TERRIBLE. I could hardly listen.

[PD]

I actually wake up to this show every morning and I must say, I quite enjoy it. But I've noticed, especially today, that Carton ON HIS OWN, is fucking TERRIBLE. I could hardly listen.

Carton has a bit of Mad Dog Russo in him; he'll throw stuff out there to annoy some and wait for the responses.

Boomer is pretty vanilla - although when he says he knows Football I believe him, as opposed to when Fatso Francessa says it.

I find their show to be pretty good- but like any sports talk show, its all dependent on what has happened the night before.

[JimBeam]

Yeah I think it works best when they are together.

They play off of each other real well.

To be honest I think they are the best team I've personally listened to outside of R&F.

[Freitag]

Sorry to resurrect this thread but I've just started listening to these guys over the last month or so because I've gotten bored of Mike & Mike.

I dig the chemistry between Boomer and Chris.

Chris is such a straight forward clown/jackass that it makes him seem personable.

Now I'm sure this has been talked about already but it's my understanding that Chris was on one of the old NEW shows but I'm not sure which one.

The " Sports Guys " show or whatever it was called seemed to have a revolving door so at what time was Carton on there and who was his partner ?

Ah, see, this is the confusion.

By "Chris", do you mean "Craig"?

Chris CARLIN is the update guy, and the voice of Rutgers football.

Craig CARTON is the former Jersey Guy from 101.5 and former Sports Guy.

(I guess with the similar last names and initials, people get confused.)

Craig was on WNEW back in 2001. He worked with Sid Rosenberg (who went on to IMUS, then had a few drug episodes and ended up getting fired, now clean and sober working on Miami's version of the FAN) and then worked with Blain Ensley. He was on the air and reporting live when 9/11 happened.

[JimBeam]

I'm talking about Carton. Not the fat guy ( although he's mildly humorous ).

[JimBeam]

Wow I didn't even pick up on the fact that he was the guy that was briefly on Imus.

That was totally passed me.

Why would FAN bring him back ?

Didn't he make some questionable comments ?

[JimBeam]

NEVERMIND that last part.

I missed, and had forgotten, that it was Sid that got in trouble on Imus.

So it was Chris and Sid on NEW and they were replaced by who ?

Ferrall and one of the old WPLJ guys no ?

[Doctor Z]

When Carton is by himself, you really notice his general cadence and speech patterns are extremely annoying.

[Freitag]

Wow I didn't even pick up on the fact that he was the guy that was briefly on Imus.

That was totally passed me.

Why would FAN bring him back ?

Didn't he make some questionable comments ?

"briefly?"

Sid was on Imus for years. I would probably say 2002-2005. Sid was edgier than Imus, and Imus and Charles took great lengths to keep him reeled in.

He did make some comments that in a Post-Imus world would have gotten him nailed to the wall. But that was before everything hit the fan.

Sid wasn't fired for content; he was fired because he had major drug problems.

Sid was the same way Craig was - you either loved him or hated him but always listened to him. The problem is, you can't have personalities like Sid and Craig in the same room - it's TOO edgy and unlistenable. That's why the Rossi/Carton and Boomer/Carton pairings work.

Great line today:

Craig: "What do you call it - capicol or gabbagoul?"

Chris: "I call it delicious."

[Freitag]

NEVERMIND that last part.

I missed, and had forgotten, that it was Sid that got in trouble on Imus.

So it was Chris and Sid on NEW and they were replaced by who ?

Ferrall and one of the old WPLJ guys no ?

It was -

Sid and Craig.

Craig & two other guys (Eddie Ifft? Someone was in there)

Craig and Blain Ensley, from Rocky Allen Showgram on PLJ.

Ferrall and Blain.

Ferrall solo.

Ferrall gets fired in the St. Pat's mess, replaced with Richard Neer doing a WFAN-style show on WNEW (they used FAN branding and everything) and then finally, one last guy who I think was simulcast from Atlanta.

[Freitag]

NEVERMIND that last part.

I missed, and had forgotten, that it was Sid that got in trouble on Imus.

So it was Chris and Sid on NEW and they were replaced by who ?

Ferrall and one of the old WPLJ guys no ?

CRAIG

[Freitag]

The Sports Guy Lineup:

Scott Kaplan and Sid Rosenberg (Scott and Sid)
Scott Kaplan, Sid Rosenberg, Eddie Ifft, and John Riggins
Sid Rosenberg and Eddie Ifft
Sid Rosenberg, Craig Carton, and Eddie Ifft
Sid Rosenberg, Craig Carton, and Blain Ensley
Craig Carton and Blain Ensley
Scott Ferrall and Blain Ensley
Scott Ferrall
Chris Dimino
Richard Neer and Harris Allen (WFAN on WNEW)

Sid was on WFAN from 2002-2005 as Imus's update guy and also was co-host of the Mid-Day show with Jody Mac and later, Joe Beningo.

He was dropped from the Imus show after he made some comments about Kylie Minogue in early 2005, and then fired altogether in late 2005 when he missed a Giants pre-game broadcast. He was replaced on the Imus show with Chris Carlin, and on the mid-day show with Evan Roberts.

Ironically, one of the producers of the Sports Guys is now a high-ranking bigwig in Viacom radio.

[JimBeam]

Gotcha.

I went back and re-read what I posted and realized I was screwing myself and you up.

I was saying " Chris " but should've been saying " Craig ".

I know the difference but not sure why I was messing that up.

My bad. But you figured it out.

I did like Sid on both the NEW and FAN shows.

[docgoblin]

Gotcha.

I went back and re-read what I posted and realized I was screwing myself and you up.

I was saying " Chris " but should've been saying " Craig ".

I know the difference but not sure why I was messing that up.

My bad. But you figured it out.

I did like Sid on both the NEW and FAN shows.

Chris Carlin and Craig Carton... It's pretty easy to confuse the two. I like the chemistry between Craig and Boomer but when one of them is on vacation the show is not as good. I always thought of Craig and Sid as very similar acts. They both play up the gambling aspect. They both talk about the chicks quite a bit, and try to push the envelope. I don't think Craig has any of the addiction problems that have plagued Sid however. With Craig it's an act. With Sid it was a lifestyle. Ronny talks about days at NEW when Sid would hang around the station for hours after his shift because there were usually guys outside waiting for him. He'd usually slink away under the cover of darkness... Probably to the nearest crap game.

[Freitag]

Two things:

1) Craig re-enacting the end of "An Officer and a Gentleman" with Favre as Mayo and Craig as Winger - HILARITY.

2) Al Dukes' cheapness continues. Al, who was on vacation, called Craig because he was unsure about tipping for the delivery of couches. He only had a 20 and there was two delivery guys. He didn't want to give one of them the 20.

al hughesssss

[PD]

Two things:

1) Craig re-enacting the end of "An Officer and a Gentleman" with Favre as Mayo and Craig as Winger - HILARITY.

2) Al Dukes' cheapness continues. Al, who was on vacation, called Craig because he was unsure about tipping for the delivery of couches. He only had a 20 and there was two delivery guys. He didn't want to give one of them the 20.

al hughesssss

did you catch craig call in to fox news "yes, I am a genius".

He's been on fire today.

[PD]

Sid was on WFAN from 2002-2005 as Imus's update guy and also was co-host of the Mid-Day show with Jody Mac and later, Joe Beningo.

He was dropped from the Imus show after he made some comments about Kylie Minogue in early 2005, and then fired altogether in late 2005 when he missed a Giants pre-game broadcast. He was replaced on the Imus show with Chris Carlin, and on the mid-day show with Evan Roberts..

after Sid was fired, he resurfaced as a WFAN weekend fill in,
and he had "incidents" making comments about the Williams sisters, and about stealing Dish network.

I loved sid, but when Lawrence Taylor has an intervention for you, you have a problem.

[Freitag]

after Sid was fired, he resurfaced as a WFAN weekend fill in,
and he had "incidents" making comments about the Williams sisters, and about stealing Dish network.

I loved sid, but when Lawrence Taylor has an intervention for you, you have a problem.

The incidents about the Williams Sisters and Dish Network happened when he was on IMUS. That led up to him being fired from Imus - the Kylie Minogue thing was the last straw.

He did do weekend work on WFAN, but I think that was basically "auditions" for him to get a new job somewhere else; to prove he was clean and was reliable. They had already given his spots for the mid-day show to Roberts and his Giants pregame spot to Carlin, so it wasn't like they were going to fire them to put Sid back in.

He ended up in Miami and it sounds like he's doing pretty good down there; I guess it's a hard lesson to learn.

[Freitag]

did you catch craig call in to fox news "yes, I am a genius".

He's been on fire today.

Whenever Craig is validated, it makes for awesome radio. I haven't been able to get WFAN's live stream, but he was DESTROYING this morning on the ride in.

[PD]

Whenever Craig is validated, it makes for awesome radio. I haven't been able to get WFAN's live stream, but he was DESTROYING this morning on the ride in.

I dunno if it matters, but lately Ive been using the cbs radio via winamp while at work.

http://208.80.52.46/WFANAM?ext=.flv

[Freitag]

Andrea Pininfarina, head of the company which designs Ferraris, Fiats and the Ford Focus, died in a road crash in the early hours of Thursday near the Italian city of Turin, riding his Vespa scooter.

So much for that matta-cocky design!

[Freitag]

"Absolutely filthy."

[Aqualad]

I had no idea there were so many Sports Guys. I listened during the Craig and Blaine era but quit when stupid Ferrell came in. Hated Craig on Jersey Guys, but I need to check out Carton and Boomer.

[Don Stugots]

The Sports Guy Lineup:

Scott Kaplan and Sid Rosenberg (Scott and Sid)
Ironically, one of the producers of the Sports Guys is now a high-ranking bigwig in Viacom radio.

LOOK AT THE HIND! I enjoyed Scot and Sid, the OG Brooklyn Boys. "IT'S EMBARRASSING!"

Who is The Olive?


I had no idea there were so many Sports Guys. I listened during the Craig and Blaine era but quit when stupid Ferrell came in. Hated Craig on Jersey Guys, but I need to check out Carton and Boomer.

jersey guys was a show I always listened to even though I don't like jersey.

[Tenbatsuzen]

LOOK AT THE HIND! I enjoyed Scot and Sid, the OG Brooklyn Boys. "IT'S EMBARRASSING!"

Who is The Olive?



Matt Olivero, the aforementioned CBS Bigwig.


jersey guys was a show I always listened to even though I don't like jersey.

Rude and rude.

[Don Stugots]

Matt Olivero, the aforementioned CBS Bigwig.



Rude and rude.

I was answering your question Jeopardy style.


Look at the HIND!

[sarsbusdriver]

What a revolving door lineup.
I think Opie called them the Menudo oof radio.

Loved the Sports Guys.
My favorite bit that stands out was the cockfight.
It may have been a work, but made for good radio.


The Sports Guy Lineup:

Scott Kaplan and Sid Rosenberg (Scott and Sid)
Scott Kaplan, Sid Rosenberg, Eddie Ifft, and John Riggins
Sid Rosenberg and Eddie Ifft
Sid Rosenberg, Craig Carton, and Eddie Ifft
Sid Rosenberg, Craig Carton, and Blain Ensley
Craig Carton and Blain Ensley
Scott Ferrall and Blain Ensley
Scott Ferrall
Chris Dimino
Richard Neer and Harris Allen (WFAN on WNEW)

Sid was on WFAN from 2002-2005 as Imus's update guy and also was co-host of the Mid-Day show with Jody Mac and later, Joe Beningo.

He was dropped from the Imus show after he made some comments about Kylie Minogue in early 2005, and then fired altogether in late 2005 when he missed a Giants pre-game broadcast. He was replaced on the Imus show with Chris Carlin, and on the mid-day show with Evan Roberts.

Ironically, one of the producers of the Sports Guys is now a high-ranking bigwig in Viacom radio.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I was answering your question Jeopardy style.


Look at the HIND!

You didn't ring in with "ADIOS COMPADRES!" so you lose points. That's a demerit for Al Dukes.

[Don Stugots]

You didn't ring in with "ADIOS COMPADRES!" so you lose points. That's a demerit for Al Dukes.

How about:

"PEACE! on the streets"

plus, i only listen to the show 6 to 6:30, then I am at work.

[Don Stugots]

the opening break today was funny with Craig calling in from his phone from "the top of the 59th street bridge".

[Tenbatsuzen]

Craig was on Channel 11 for the Jets pre-game tonight.

He did OK. Just needed to know which camera he has to look into.

[barjockey]

Cartons great with boomer but he needs a better partner for TV

[Tenbatsuzen]

Cartons great with boomer but he needs a better partner for TV

Channel 11 doesn't have much. It's either Sal Marchiano, Kaity Tong, or Brownsheets.

[barjockey]

Channel 11 doesn't have much. It's either Sal Marchiano, Kaity Tong, or Brownsheets.

Is Jill Brownsheets?

:lol::lol::tongue:

[Tenbatsuzen]

"won't you die friggin' eagles..."

Al Dukes rules.

BTW, Radio Dentist said Chris Carlin's gone from WFAN, so it looks like Recco is the permanent news guy.

[NewYorkDragons80]

With Sid it was a lifestyle. Ronny talks about days at NEW when Sid would hang around the station for hours after his shift because there were usually guys outside waiting for him. He'd usually slink away under the cover of darkness... Probably to the nearest crap game.

Damn, I've never heard that before. Anybody got a clip? Back when I was interning with the Dragons, Sid was doing play by play for a season or two. He always seemed like he was somewhat aloof and checking over his shoulder. After his demons became public, it all came together.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Al Dukes just became the most hated man in Kansas City.

[Don Stugots]

Well those people should hate themselves for living in Kansas City.

[JimBeam]

Morten Andersen was on this morning and he was a great guest.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Morten Andersen was on this morning and he was a great guest.

He was. That whole segment from incarcerated Bob to Morten was great.

[PD]

Morten Andersen was on this morning and he was a great guest.

is that the half footed kicker?

I listen often, but not this morning.

[Tenbatsuzen]

is that the half footed kicker?

I listen often, but not this morning.

They both played for the Saints, but that was Tom Dempsey.

[JimBeam]

A little bit of Morten back when he was w/ the Saints :

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The link to KSK's post :

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2008/12/which-one-of-you-fine-ladies-wants-to-get-with-the-copenhagen-dragon.html

[Friday]

i think i may be enjoying this unauthorized Boomer audio a bit too much. :D

[Enabler]

Pretty much a non-story but Aubrey O'Day hung up on Boomer & Carton on Friday. Another quality booking by "The Faggot of the Opera" Al Dukes.

audio: http://www.wfan.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=3488102

[Tenbatsuzen]

Pretty much a non-story but Aubrey O'Day hung up on Boomer & Carton on Friday. Another quality booking by "The Faggot of the Opera" Al Dukes.

audio: http://www.wfan.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=3488102

To Al's credit, Craig hasn't bashed at all... and Craig had issues with other producers.

My question is this -

Mark Feinsand (sp?) was on Friday... they were telling a story about how someone at WFAN went ballistic because Mark, an intern at the time, ate an unauthorized slice of pizza.

Mark and Eric Spitz (PD of WFAN) both protected who the guilty party was... it's either Russ Salzberg, Russo, or Mike Francesa.

[Enabler]

To Al's credit, Craig hasn't bashed at all... and Craig had issues with other producers.

My question is this -

Mark Feinsand (sp?) was on Friday... they were telling a story about how someone at WFAN went ballistic because Mark, an intern at the time, ate an unauthorized slice of pizza.

Mark and Eric Spitz (PD of WFAN) both protected who the guilty party was... it's either Russ Salzberg, Russo, or Mike Francesa.


No I agree. Al does a good job on that show.

As for your other question...Id sooner starve than try to take food away from Francessa. If pizza is missing he's sure as shit gonna notice.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Johnny I'll Do Ya is the best name EVER.

BTW, did anyway hear the "Pre-Pass" commercial on WFAN this morning? Kinda wigged me out.

[Freitag]

Alyssa Milano was on this morning.

A little cringe... yikes.

Alyssa was not in a good mood and I think Craig picked up on that and wanted to annoy her more.

[NewYorkDragons80]

Mark and Eric Spitz (PD of WFAN) both protected who the guilty party was... it's either Russ Salzberg, Russo, or Mike Francesa.

Hmmm...

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9RuVMobIC4Y/SScshFUAHvI/AAAAAAAAAJY/-7ueGDxYk3Q/medium_giantsCIS%20016-1.JPG

Who...

http://www.topnews.in/files/images/ChrisRusso.jpg

Could...

http://www.hotfootblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/314facesmaddog.jpg

It be???

[Don Stugots]

Great call yesterday with a guy calling craig "chris".

A woman just called to say that tickets at these new ball fields are not as affordable as they once were. Craig said she was nuts and it is.

Craig, no it isn't, sorry. You may have to tow a line since the mets are on WFAN but don't make believe that people are not have hard time right now.

[Freitag]

Great call yesterday with a guy calling craig "chris".

A woman just called to say that tickets at these new ball fields are not as affordable as they once were. Craig said she was nuts and it is.

Craig, no it isn't, sorry. You may have to tow a line since the mets are on WFAN but don't make believe that people are not have hard time right now.

Outside of the "legends" seating, I'm pretty sure that prices have only elevated a little bit. It's the scalpers right now who are making a premium on the newness of both stadiums.

That being said, the Yankees actually REDUCED prices on a lot of food because they run their own concessions now. $6 beer. So in the end, it becomes a wash.

[Don Stugots]

the woman's grip was that the mets did away with the opening day family plan and for most family plan days. craig took the "too bad for them" and "its not that bad" role. just seemed out of touch a bit given the economic state we are all in.

[Freitag]

the woman's grip was that the mets did away with the opening day family plan and for most family plan days. craig took the "too bad for them" and "its not that bad" role. just seemed out of touch a bit given the economic state we are all in.

Craig's been extra "craigy" lately. I don't understand why. it seems they've all been on edge especially with the callers lately.

[Don Stugots]

he keeps mentioning management, maybe they have been getting heat over ratings?

[Bay Ridge Tim]

I recently switched shifts and now I get to listen to Boomer & Carton on the way home. I love it. Their have a great balance. Boomer plays a great straight man. Craig has some really funny lines. I love when they rag on Sterling and Waldman.

I also really enjoy having Al Dukes in my life. Has anyone heard the parody songs he's been pumping out? I love that man.

[JimBeam]

A few days ago I was starting to hate Carton because he can be a whiney b*tch sometimes and it gets old.

But today he was funny again.

He always keeps me guessing.

[JPMNICK]

A few days ago I was starting to hate Carton because he can be a whiney b*tch sometimes and it gets old.

But today he was funny again.

He always keeps me guessing.

i don't think he likes boomer at all anymore. boomer is such fucking annoying to listen to. he is very pretentious and has no clue how to run with a bit

[Freitag]

i don't think he likes boomer at all anymore. boomer is such fucking annoying to listen to. he is very pretentious and has no clue how to run with a bit

I wouldn't go that far. It's definitely a very different dynamic than Craig had with Ray. I will admit that Boomer is very wooden some times, but that's part of the show's uniqueness.

It's not two dorks like Mike and Mike, or a pompous jerk like Francesa.

[Spagett]

I wouldn't go that far. It's definitely a very different dynamic than Craig had with Ray. I will admit that Boomer is very wooden some times, but that's part of the show's uniqueness.

It's not two dorks like Mike and Mike, or a pompous jerk like Francesa.

Did the pot just call the kettle black

[Freitag]

Did the pot just call the kettle black

Depends. Why don't you stop using alts and man up if you're going to talk trash?

[PD]

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[JimBeam]

Those internet chicks don't look all that. I was expecting much better.

Is that Carton's wife in the 3rd pic ?

[PD]

T
Is that Carton's wife in the 3rd pic ?
dunno.
This made local (wnbc-tv) news, but i only caught the end.

[SKANE]

Al Hughes!

[PD]

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local-beat/Radio-Host-Puts-His-Speedo-Where-His-Mouth-Is-81044607.html

[Tenbatsuzen]

Is that Carton's wife in the 3rd pic ?

It does look like her a little bit, but I'm pretty sure it's not. I think that's Reby Sky.

Did Craig say his wife was there?

[JimBeam]

I thought he said earlier in the week that she'd be there.

I just thought it was her based on her proximity to him and that she didn't look like a " character ".

[Freitag]

BTW, a certain Ron and Fez polarizing regular tried calling in this morning before 8am, started his typical rambling schtick, and was immediately hung up upon and led to Craig mocking him and then yelling at Al for not screening the calls.

who could it beeeeeee

[disneyspy]

BTW, a certain Ron and Fez polarizing regular tried calling in this morning before 8am, started his typical rambling schtick, and was immediately hung up upon and led to Craig mocking him and then yelling at Al for not screening the calls.

who could it beeeeeee

was he a heckler?

[Freitag]

was he a heckler?

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[JimBeam]

I was listening a bit this morning and you know sometimes Carton can be such a little b*tch.

It's those times when I want Boomer to slap him.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I was listening a bit this morning and you know sometimes Carton can be such a little b*tch.

It's those times when I want Boomer to slap him.

About what? When I was listening, Craig had Rod Gilbert in to surprise Boomer and he was fucking bowled over.

[JimBeam]

Mostly the calls that were anti-Jets and he was hanging up on them midsentence and then rambling on about how it's great for New York and every New Yorker should love it.

And today he's making bold predictions that the Jets are gonna win, which I'd expect from a fan of the team, but they come off so lame because he's not putting anything up for it.

If the Jets win he'll do an " I told you so " but if they lose he'll pass it off as " Well that was supposed to happen ".

He needs to lock himself into another bet like walking across the bridge and that'd put so emphasis on his pick.

[foodcourtdruide]

I always thought Carton was a MadDog rip off, just talk loud and make outrageous claims. However, he doesn't have nearly the sports knowledge Chris Russo has.

[JimBeam]

Don't get me wrong, 85% of the time I like Carton, but it's that 15% that makes me want to strangle him.

He does have a Russo-like sound at times but to your point Russo usually has a good handle on what the subject and carton goes for a sort of shock value.

Like yeterday he was playing dumb trying to figure out if it was the governor of Indiana or Indianapolis.

[foodcourtdruide]

Don't get me wrong, 85% of the time I like Carton, but it's that 15% that makes me want to strangle him.

He does have a Russo-like sound at times but to your point Russo usually has a good handle on what the subject and carton goes for a sort of shock value.

Like yeterday he was playing dumb trying to figure out if it was the governor of Indiana or Indianapolis.

Yeah, rip off may be too harsh. I don't dislike him either, but I get frustrated the same way. I think he dumbs himself down to be the "home town guy"

[JimBeam]

Did anybody hear those girls on this morning ?

How is it that you could be 23 years old and not know who fought in the Civil War ?

[Earlshog]

Did anybody hear those girls on this morning ?

How is it that you could be 23 years old and not know who fought in the Civil War ?

whats so civil about war anyway... (that old gag)

I like Al Dukes Miley Cyrus / Jets Parody... it was funny that they played it for Nick Mangold

[Freitag]

I always thought Carton was a MadDog rip off, just talk loud and make outrageous claims. However, he doesn't have nearly the sports knowledge Chris Russo has.

Russo once asked if the movie "Daredevil" was based on a real story.

Carton is entertaining. If I wanted two sports geeks in the morning, I'd listen to Mike and Mike.

[foodcourtdruide]

Russo once asked if the movie "Daredevil" was based on a real story.

Carton is entertaining. If I wanted two sports geeks in the morning, I'd listen to Mike and Mike.

Russo is like Rainmain. He has an insanely good memory, but has trouble with practical things and he's heckler-like by looking at the past with rose-colored glasses. His opinions on things like music and movies are pretty bad, but his knowledge of sports history is incredibly impressive.

[JimBeam]

Did anybody listen this morning ?

I heard them talking about, but didn't know the backgound surrounding, something that Phil whatever his name is that writes about tv/radio for the Daily News wrote about Boomer.

Had something to do with his name because Boomer was explaining that he's had the name since before he was born.

Boomer also took a nice shot at Chris Berman and his use of the name.

Any ideas on what the issue was ?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Did anybody listen this morning ?

I heard them talking about, but didn't know the backgound surrounding, something that Phil whatever his name is that writes about tv/radio for the Daily News wrote about Boomer.

Had something to do with his name because Boomer was explaining that he's had the name since before he was born.

Boomer also took a nice shot at Chris Berman and his use of the name.

Any ideas on what the issue was ?

Mushnick.

This was his quote -


What's worse, WFAN's Craig Carton's cruel references to that young, unhinged ESPN go-fer who was played by Steve Phillips -- Carton repeatedly called her "a pig" -- or Boomer Esiason's indulgence of it? By the way, at 48, isn't it time Esiason went with something a tad more adult than Boomer -- maybe Corky or Biff?

Never mind the fact that he's been known as Boomer his entire playing career and it's basically his brand.

[JimBeam]

Thanks for the info.

I haven't read that guy's stuff in forever but based on what I hear about him, mostly on Boomer & Carton, he seems to have an issue w/ them and any sports talk that's not G-rated or better yet boring.

I guess he's just a bit jealous that he's not impotant enough to warrant a nickname.

I don't know it for sure but I bet he loves Francesca.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Thanks for the info.

I haven't read that guy's stuff in forever but based on what I hear about him, mostly on Boomer & Carton, he seems to have an issue w/ them and any sports talk that's not G-rated or better yet boring.

I guess he's just a bit jealous that he's not impotant enough to warrant a nickname.

I don't know it for sure but I bet he loves Francesca.

Mushnick is just an asshole who writes for shock value.

[Zorro]

Don't have XM at home so I listen to Boomer and Carton getting ready for work. Oddly enough there really good.

[Bob Impact]

I listened this morning while i was running some errands only to hear them debating whether or not Al Dukes would get hit on if he dressed as a woman, I nostalia'd so hard I almost drove into a tree.

[JimBeam]

I saw that Muschnick douche on some special about Tiger Woods.

I was totally thinking of another person when I heard his name.

I was thinking of that guy in the Daily News that writes about sports on tv and radio.

Bob Raisman maybe ?

[Doctor Z]

Does anybody know what the context or origin of that "SAANDWICHES" sound clip is? I don't get it.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Does anybody know what the context or origin of that "SAANDWICHES" sound clip is? I don't get it.

I've heard it before too... why not friend All Dukes on Facebook and ask him?

[Zorro]

Does anybody know what the context or origin of that "SAANDWICHES" sound clip is? I don't get it.

It comes from the Mets pathetic season last year when one of the broadcasters let his kid do an inning. The kid uses the sandwhich as an analogy

[JimBeam]

I'm taking a break from them while they do their stupid " Tournament Of Babes ".

That's such a tired bit that every website, magazine and half-a$$ed radio show does.

When you're doing things that Maxim did 5 years ago you're not really being cutting edge.

Plus it doesn't work while you're driving.

[JimBeam]

I caught a little of the Dino Costa show on Sirius ( not a fan but was flipping channels ) tonight and he was $hitting all over Carton.

Compared his voice to that of Joan Rivers and said it could " pierce a cinder block that was 100 feet thick ".

I know Carton can be annoying but I think that was a little harsh.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I caught a little of the Dino Costa show on Sirius ( not a fan but was flipping channels ) tonight and he was $hitting all over Carton.

Compared his voice to that of Joan Rivers and said it could " pierce a cinder block that was 100 feet thick ".

I know Carton can be annoying but I think that was a little harsh.

...who?

I've heard a lot of sports radio and I've NEVER heard of this guy.

[JimBeam]

He comes on after Mad Dog on that channel.

He mentioned that he's been back in NY for a few months but I think I've heard him say that he was doing radio in Philadelphia before this.

[Tenbatsuzen]

He comes on after Mad Dog on that channel.

He mentioned that he's been back in NY for a few months but I think I've heard him say that he was doing radio in Philadelphia before this.

again, who? Is this like some new jock taking shots at Howard and/or O&A? Is this the gimmick now?

nobody fucking listens to Mad Dog radio. Nobody.

[JimBeam]

Well when your choices are Bonnie Bernstein ( 1050 ), Mets baseball ( WFAN ), Freddie Coleman going over hightlights you've just heard ( ESPN Radio ), Jimbo Fisher going over this week's FSU gameplan ( Rivals ) or hearing again about Reggie Bush giving up his Heisman ( ESPN News ) I guess you do find your way to other stations.

Or at least I do.

[torker]

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[Sinestro]

They're on vacation. What are you talking about???

[Kris10]

I'd fuck Carton in a heartbeat.

[Snacks]

how about we change the name of this thread to Boomer and Carton? for some reason its fucking with my head reading it in the wrong order!

[Zorro]

how about we change the name of this thread to Boomer and Carton? for some reason its fucking with my head reading it in the wrong order!

Maybe it's right and you're just reading i backwards...

[Tenbatsuzen]

Watching the MSG Simulcast... is that a green screen or an actual, real, physical studio? I'm not sure.

[Snacks]

Watching the MSG Simulcast... is that a green screen or an actual, real, physical studio? I'm not sure.

im not watching it yet today but if its the same studio they are always in and not on location somewhere, then yes its a real studio! Its new and they moved into it about 4 - 6 weeks ago.

[Gutter]

They were pretty funny on Blue Mountain State last week. that show is a riot.

[Tenbatsuzen]

im not watching it yet today but if its the same studio they are always in and not on location somewhere, then yes its a real studio! Its new and they moved into it about 4 - 6 weeks ago.

I saw shadows and stuff so now I know it's "real" but just the way it looks, so new and clean in the high def, I coulda sworn it was green screen or faked somehow.

[Snacks]

I saw shadows and stuff so now I know it's "real" but just the way it looks, so new and clean in the high def, I coulda sworn it was green screen or faked somehow.

seriously, nothing about their studio looks like it is a green screen. I cant even understand how you can say that.

[Zorro]

I saw shadows and stuff so now I know it's "real" but just the way it looks, so new and clean in the high def, I coulda sworn it was green screen or faked somehow.

the studio is real Boomer and Carton are fake

[PapaBear]

A true spamming work of art!:clap:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Jay Mohr was just on the show and just spent 15 minutes just absolutely fucking BRUTALIZING Sterling and Waldman. Vicious. He killed Joe Buck too... just fantastic stuff.

[JimBeam]

I used to hate Jay Mohr but the last time I heard him on R&F he was great and this morning on B&C he was fantastic.

I actually got out of the car before the Sterling & Waldman stuff.

Him taking shots at the Yankees was pretty funny.

He does tend to lose me when he insists on going back to his Christopher Walken bit.

He's so much better than that and shouldn't have to default to it.

[Snacks]

He was funny today but every time hes on a talk show all he does is kiss the ass of his wife. I understand she used to be smoking hot (before she destroyed herself with plastic surgery and starvation). But how whipped is he that he took her last name, legally? Who does that?

[Tenbatsuzen]

I love the fact that JUST TODAY Fez slams us for being negative again and then I have to read that Snacks post. Snacks, I know you took some time off from the board, but you do recall Jay did post here and shit like that is what drove im off, right?

[Snacks]

I love the fact that JUST TODAY Fez slams us for being negative again and then I have to read that Snacks post. Snacks, I know you took some time off from the board, but you do recall Jay did post here and shit like that is what drove im off, right?

And I should care why? So what if Jay Mohr used to come on here and now doesnt. Im not supposed to speak my opinion in fear that I might scare off someone who barely comes on this site? Even if he was a regular, I dont give 2 shits. Im just giving my opinion about what he has put out there and about his wifes awful surgery. Does he not speak his mind or make fun of things?

[Tenbatsuzen]

And I should care why? So what if Jay Mohr used to come on here and now doesnt. Im not supposed to speak my opinion in fear that I might scare off someone who barely comes on this site? Even if he was a regular, I dont give 2 shits. Im just giving my opinion about what he has put out there and about his wifes awful surgery. Does he not speak his mind or make fun of things?

It's because your post makes you sound like a fucking asshole. First, Jay was in there for about 30-40 minutes and maybe 5 minutes of that was discussing Nikki. Secondly, either Boomer or Craig brought up Nikki and wanted the backstory on how they met. Don't forget, we as O&A/R&F fans have heard Jay's stories for years, but this was Jay's 3rd of 4th appearance on WFAN so they may not know.

You're just being a passive aggressive twat, "you know, I know she USED to be attractive..." whenever Jay is asked about Nikki, he ALWAYS SAYS - ALWAYS - how she makes him laugh. To some people, that's important. And also, I haven't seen a recent pic of Nikki in a few years. So maybe her look has changed. The pic they showed on WFAN was better than I've seen.

[Snacks]

It's because your post makes you sound like a fucking asshole. First, Jay was in there for about 30-40 minutes and maybe 5 minutes of that was discussing Nikki. Secondly, either Boomer or Craig brought up Nikki and wanted the backstory on how they met. Don't forget, we as O&A/R&F fans have heard Jay's stories for years, but this was Jay's 3rd of 4th appearance on WFAN so they may not know.

You're just being a passive aggressive twat, "you know, I know she USED to be attractive..." whenever Jay is asked about Nikki, he ALWAYS SAYS - ALWAYS - how she makes him laugh. To some people, that's important. And also, I haven't seen a recent pic of Nikki in a few years. So maybe her look has changed. The pic they showed on WFAN was better than I've seen.

I dont care if people know the back story or not. I do not know their back story and even if I did it wouldnt take away from the fact that he legally changed his name to Cox Mohr.

Why do you have such a problem with someone giving their opinion here? You do it about everything but Mohr is off limits? Why because you like him? Do you think hes your friend because he has come on here before? Defend away!

[Tenbatsuzen]

I dont care if people know the back story or not. I do not know their back story and even if I did it wouldnt take away from the fact that he legally changed his name to Cox Mohr.

Why do you have such a problem with someone giving their opinion here? You do it about everything but Mohr is off limits? Why because you like him? Do you think hes your friend because he has come on here before? Defend away!

So he changes his name. Big deal. Maybe he hates his family.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Why do you have such a problem with someone giving their opinion here?

give your opinion. Just don't sound like a misinformed buffoon.

[Judge Smails]

I haven't seen a recent pic of Nikki in a few years. So maybe her look has changed.

I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nikki-cox-plastic-surgery-victim.jpg

[Snacks]

give your opinion. Just don't sound like a misinformed buffoon.

What did I say that was misinformed? Thats your problem you are trying to create a big deal out of my opinion. I didnt post something that isnt true. I didnt post something he didnt say and I didnt make stuff up so how and I misinformed? Sounds like you are kissing ass just to kiss ass. His wife is terrible looking now. I added that. I never said anything about why or why not to love her. I gave my opinion on her looks and that he is whipped.

As for his name change, come on that is a pussy move!

[Snacks]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nikki-cox-plastic-surgery-victim.jpg

She was so beautiful and now she is one of the ugliest women in hollywood! Good job sweetie!

[Sinestro]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/nikki-cox-plastic-surgery-victim.jpg

Any pics with her hair down? and facing the camera?

[Judge Smails]

Any pics with her hair down? and facing the camera?

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/photos/dr_pix/admiral_ackbar.jpg

[Tenbatsuzen]

As a reminder, Craig and Booms are judging on a new episode of Iron Chef tonight on Food Network. This will be their second time judging.

[NickyL0885]

As a reminder, Craig and Booms are judging on a new episode of Iron Chef tonight on Food Network. This will be their second time judging.

I think they taped it months ago though. I remember them talking about it a few weeks ago. They wondered why it was taking long to air.

[Tenbatsuzen]

I think they taped it months ago though. I remember them talking about it a few weeks ago. They wondered why it was taking long to air.

apparently, it takes FOREVER for these episodes to air. It's like a year from shooting to airing.

[cougarjake13]

I used to hate Jay Mohr but the last time I heard him on R&F he was great and this morning on B&C he was fantastic.

I actually got out of the car before the Sterling & Waldman stuff.

Him taking shots at the Yankees was pretty funny.

He does tend to lose me when he insists on going back to his Christopher Walken bit.

He's so much better than that and shouldn't have to default to it.



have you ever heard jay when he fills in for jim rome ??

in my opinion he does great and i wouldnt mind if he had his own show

[JimBeam]

I was skeptical about 2 of their interviews this week when I first heard about them.

The Leyrtiz one and Jenn Sterger.

I thought they'd avoid the negtaivity of Leyritz but that's essentially all they talked about which I thought was good.

With Sterger I thought they'd again avoid conflict but Carton was all over here even referring to her as a " skank " when he was saying what was coming up in the show.

I was watching it on MSG and you could see how uncomfortbale she was.

A few times she called Carton rude in a snotty way.

It was good stuff.

[Misteriosa]

http://www.dependablerenegade.com/photos/dr_pix/admiral_ackbar.jpg

this made tears stream down my face. bravo, sir. bravo. :clap:

[Snacks]

Im watching the Jenn Sterger interview now on MSG and I must admit its a pretty good interview. She looks hot because shes not overly done up. I also give her credit for sitting there and talking about this and taking on everything (for the most part). Carton is doing a good job of asking the questions that others wouldnt ask even though hes a little over the top!

The best thing that came out of this interview is that SHE NEVER MET BRETT FAVRE EVER! So Favre was texting her purely because he saw a picture of her or seen her on the sidelines etc. He has bigger balls then expected. Dont you have to at least have spoken to someone before you email your junk to the person?

[JimBeam]

I don't know if I believed anything she said.

Her saying that she told the Deadspin guy " in confidence " seemed fishy.

The fact that she kept trying to sell it as sexual harassment was also silly.

[JimBeam]

I love that Dominique is break from a lot of the stuff and she's fairly entertaining on air but her voice annoys the crap out of me.

She talks like a deaf person.

[Snacks]

I love that Dominique is break from a lot of the stuff and she's fairly entertaining on air but her voice annoys the crap out of me.

She talks like a deaf person.

who is 40 and smokes a carton of cigarettes a day!

[JimBeam]

Did any of you guys see it last week when Boomer got pissed that Carton was trying to touch him when doing a bit.

You could really see it in his face that he was annoyed by it.

[cougarjake13]

I love that Dominique is break from a lot of the stuff and she's fairly entertaining on air but her voice annoys the crap out of me.

She talks like a deaf person.

pics ??

[JimBeam]

Here are a few ( none all that great ) :

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dominiquew-bc.jpg

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/dominique-fredwilpon.jpg?w=620&h=465

Not sure if she has any on here :

https://twitter.com/#!/DominiqueMakeUp

[cougarjake13]

not bad

[JimBeam]

They had an interview with Ryan Leaf this morning that went well.

I thought it would get out of hand but Carton was suprisingly not so douchey.

[Snoogans]

you listen to boomer and carton AND mike and mike? do you hate yourself

[JimBeam]

I bounce around. My Sirius is busted and i haven't gotten it fixed/replaced.

I actually enjoy B&C.

M&M is usually reserved for commercials.

I actually even put on Imus now and again. Ouch.

[Snoogans]

I bounce around. My Sirius is busted and i haven't gotten it fixed/replaced.

I actually enjoy B&C.

M&M is usually reserved for commercials.

I actually even put on Imus now and again. Ouch.

i havent really heard him in like 8 years but i used to like imus. when he had carlin doin sports and the whole cast of clowns, that shit actually would crack me the fuck up. i dont know why cause imus is sucha fuckin tool, but the show killed me

[JimBeam]

Yeah to me the stupid Rob Bartlet gimmicks are worse than Imus being so out of touch.

That and his dumb wife coming on like she knows everything.

[cougarjake13]

They had an interview with Ryan Leaf this morning that went well.

I thought it would get out of hand but Carton was suprisingly not so douchey.

I imagine they were talking to him about tebow ??


otherwise id have no fucking clue why theyd talk to him

[JimBeam]

He has a book coming out and that's why they had him on.

They did mention Tebow and all the struggles he's going through and how Leaf can relate.

Leaf said that Tebw has a much stronger head on his shoulders than he himself had so that should prevent him from making the same mistakes.

[Tenbatsuzen]

He has a book coming out and that's why they had him on.

They did mention Tebow and all the struggles he's going through and how Leaf can relate.

Leaf said that Tebw has a much stronger head on his shoulders than he himself had so that should prevent him from making the same mistakes.

The thing is, Leaf had all the physical attributes to be a great QB but not the brain.

Tebow has the brain but not the physical qualities.

[Snacks]

The thing is, Leaf had all the physical attributes to be a great QB but not the brain.

Tebow has the brain but not the physical qualities.

What makes you think he has the brains? Because hes a good guy and religious? He actually has incredible physical talents to me its his brains that are the problem. His brain wont allow him to listen and learn. Not to mention its also his brain that has allowed him to be fooled by religion as much as he has been! Maybe he is too stupid? There is no question he is an incredible athlete so it has to be the brain!

[Tenbatsuzen]

What makes you think he has the brains? Because hes a good guy and religious?

Uh, no. 2 national titles and the Heisman may figure into the fact that he has a brain for football but not the physical tools to play in the NFL.

[Snacks]

Uh, no. 2 national titles and the Heisman may figure into the fact that he has a brain for football but not the physical tools to play in the NFL.

Didnt know brains win you a national title. I guess Cam Newton, Mark Ingram, Chris Leak, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush etc are all rocket scientist or could all get their PHD's?!

[danlaroe]

Lienart and bush no longer have their title

<--- once tweeted by @iamcolinquinn

[JimBeam]

Didnt know brains win you a national title. I guess Cam Newton, Mark Ingram, Chris Leak, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush etc are all rocket scientist or could all get their PHD's?!

He never said that he was a rocket scientist. He said he had a brain.

He also was making the point, I believe, that you'd have to be fairly intelligent to be good enough to lead a team to a title and by doing so win awards.

The point Leaf was making, again in my opinion, is that he has a good head on his shoulders to where he's not gonna get caught up in nonsense and things off the field. Not that he was gonna cure cancer or disect complicated defenses.

And how the hell do you know how smart any of those other guys you mentioned are ?

Have you spent anytime with them ? Seen their test scores ? Know if they read books ?

Aside from Young and his awful score on the Wunderlik ( sp ?? ) I've never heard anything with regards to the intelligence of those guys you mentioned.

So in your world you're only intelligent if you have your PhD ?

That makes what, like 1%, maybe , of the world intelligent ?

[Snacks]

He never said that he was a rocket scientist. He said he had a brain.

He also was making the point, I believe, that you'd have to be fairly intelligent to be good enough to lead a team to a title and by doing so win awards.

The point Leaf was making, again in my opinion, is that he has a good head on his shoulders to where he's not gonna get caught up in nonsense and things off the field. Not that he was gonna cure cancer or disect complicated defenses.

And how the hell do you know how smart any of those other guys you mentioned are ?

Have you spent anytime with them ? Seen their test scores ? Know if they read books ?

Aside from Young and his awful score on the Wunderlik ( sp ?? ) I've never heard anything with regards to the intelligence of those guys you mentioned.

So in your world you're only intelligent if you have your PhD ?

That makes what, like 1%, maybe , of the world intelligent ?

No I don't think only PHD's are intelligent or that any of these players are smart or not! My point was that it doesn't take brains or smarts to win a college national championship it takes athletic ability and talent. Tebow is known by many to have incredible athleticism. Just like we do not know if any of those other players I mentioned are geniuses or idiots the same goes for Tebow. We have no proof of his intelligence and to make the point that he has brains is silly. Its because he is a nice guy and overly religious that many people make that assumption.

I believe someone doesn't go from a great athlete to shit from 1 level to another. To me its more about their mental or their willingness to learn. So I was saying that maybe just maybe Tebow isn't as smart as some are saying. Maybe he cant comprehend or understand what he is being told or maybe he just doesn't want to listen or believe that their is another way to do something. I used his religion as an example because he has such blind, unwavering faith that it could be that he is closed minded and wont allow his brain to be broadened.

[Snoogans]

Uh, no. 2 national titles and the Heisman may figure into the fact that he has a brain for football but not the physical tools to play in the NFL.

i highly disagree with this statement. First of all, he was on the most talented team in the country. that helps. ALOT

2, college is a different game. Alot of guys who fail in the NFL that were good in college fail because they werent smart enough to understand the NFL. Thats why they try to move guys to TE or WR or whatever, cause most DO have the physical tools to play. Just not the brain.

You are aware that NFL offense and defense is a hell of a lot more complicated than college, right? Well, the reason most guys dont succeed in the NFL is cause of that. Not cause they werent fast enough

[JimBeam]

I don't think Tebow's letting his religion influence whether or not he can take snap from under center.

To Snoogans point he ran a different offense in college, and while I think it takes some level of intelligence to be able to comprehend play callins/audibles and the like, the NFL is a whole other level.

Tebow failing would be no more different than any of the QB's from the late 80's that ran option type offenses.

He was just given more of a chance than any of those guys because people like him for reasons only they know.

[Snoogans]

I don't think Tebow's letting his religion influence whether or not he can take snap from under center.

To Snoogans point he ran a different offense in college, and while I think it takes some level of intelligence to be able to comprehend play callins/audibles and the like, the NFL is a whole other level.

Tebow failing would be no more different than any of the QB's from the late 80's that ran option type offenses.

He was just given more of a chance than any of those guys because people like him for reasons only they know.
not just a different offense. Urban Meyer built that shit for 3 years around tebow. Everything was called to only use tebows abilities and expose his flaws as little as possible. And it worked amazing. And i agree, i dont think tebow is a stupid guy. I think what snacks means by tebow not having the brains is, he doesnt think quickly enough to ever be able to run an NFL offense, and 2 seems too stubborn to do some things he needs to do to have a chance to be successful.

Not loadin up to throw like you are tryin to nail a runner at home from LF would be a good start. most people think thats a physical tool but thats a mental thing. he can throw a fuckin ball without winding up like hideo nomo, but he cant make his brain tell him to do it in the moment. He always reverts back to his natural thing.

[JimBeam]

We all know it's going to be a failed experiment but it is silly to see so many people want him to fail.

I mean it's not like he comes off as a douche, at least to me, and it's the hype that was built around him, through no fault of his own, that's making him so polarizing.

I'm falling into that trap myself w/ all of the talk around Luck.

I mean we're already talking about the possibilty of this guy automatically replacing an all time great QB.

[Snoogans]

We all know it's going to be a failed experiment but it is silly to see so many people want him to fail.

I mean it's not like he comes off as a douche, at least to me, and it's the hype that was built around him, through no fault of his own, that's making him so polarizing.

I'm falling into that trap myself w/ all of the talk around Luck.

I mean we're already talking about the possibilty of this guy automatically replacing an all time great QB.

to be honest, at this point, i dont think it even has anything to do with Tebow. I think it has to do with all the great fluff BS we had to listen to about him for 5 fuckin years, everyone tryin to tell us how amazing it was while we watched him be terrible.

People just got sick of it. Its alot like favre. Obviously people in GB and a few other places have reasons to hate favre, but for the most part, what the fuck does the avg NFL fan care? Im a giants fan, favre didnt really mean shit to me. But everyone hates him cause ESPN and the like forced us to listen to everything about favre all the fuckin time. thats what happened with tebow. He just became the straw that broke the camels back

[Snacks]

not just a different offense. Urban Meyer built that shit for 3 years around tebow. Everything was called to only use tebows abilities and expose his flaws as little as possible. And it worked amazing. And i agree, i dont think tebow is a stupid guy. I think what snacks means by tebow not having the brains is, he doesnt think quickly enough to ever be able to run an NFL offense, and 2 seems too stubborn to do some things he needs to do to have a chance to be successful.

Not loadin up to throw like you are tryin to nail a runner at home from LF would be a good start. most people think thats a physical tool but thats a mental thing. he can throw a fuckin ball without winding up like hideo nomo, but he cant make his brain tell him to do it in the moment. He always reverts back to his natural thing.

Exactly my point.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Exactly my point.

No it wasn't. You specifically brought up his religion when it wasn't even mentioned, wasn't even part of the conversation.

[Snacks]

No it wasn't. You specifically brought up his religion when it wasn't even mentioned, wasn't even part of the conversation.

but yes it was. my point about religion was 2 parts. 1 people think he smart and my question is what makes people (you) think that is it because hes a nice guy and religious? so that was about religion and the 2nd part about religion is that those who are so stupid to blindly follow it aren't as smart as you want to believe because if they were they wouldn't be so blinded by faith!

you are the only one who seems to think he is smart yet not physically gifted.

how can you tell me my point when I made it and obviously someone else got it?

do you ever think that you might be the problem maybe its the way you look at things or how you try to tell others about their opinion yet you cant handle when its done to you? any self personal awareness?

[Snoogans]

but yes it was. my point about religion was 2 parts. 1 people think he smart and my question is what makes people (you) think that is it because hes a nice guy and religious? so that was about religion and the 2nd part about religion is that those who are so stupid to blindly follow it aren't as smart as you want to believe because if they were they wouldn't be so blinded by faith!

you are the only one who seems to think he is smart yet not physically gifted.

how can you tell me my point when I made it and obviously someone else got it?

do you ever think that you might be the problem maybe its the way you look at things or how you try to tell others about their opinion yet you cant handle when its done to you? any self personal awareness?

i argue with snacks alot. but he has you here, matty. If that wasnt what he was sayin, im not sure how i perfectly understood what he was tryin to say

[Tenbatsuzen]

but yes it was. my point about religion was 2 parts. 1 people think he smart and my question is what makes people (you) think that is it because hes a nice guy and religious? so that was about religion and the 2nd part about religion is that those who are so stupid to blindly follow it aren't as smart as you want to believe because if they were they wouldn't be so blinded by faith!

you are the only one who seems to think he is smart yet not physically gifted.

how can you tell me my point when I made it and obviously someone else got it?

do you ever think that you might be the problem maybe its the way you look at things or how you try to tell others about their opinion yet you cant handle when its done to you? any self personal awareness?


First, fuck you. I'm probably one of the most brutally self-aware people on this board, at least, what's left of it.

Secondly, go back and re-read what I said. I'm not denying Tebow is an athlete. What I said he doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB.

I think he could be a tight end or a fullback, or possibly even an undersized speed linebacker. But we don't know this. What we've seen from Tebow is five or six starts, the first being in a shitty failed system and the second attempt in a failing team and is unwanted by his coach and GM.

I mean, seriously. How is Tebow supposed to succeed when those who run the team have given him ZERO support?

I would like him to succeed, mainly because I think professional athletes in general should be more like Tebow. And that's not even about the religious thing, I couldn't give a shit about what he believes in.

If you think religion makes you dumb and you can't succeed as a QB because of being highly religious, let me introduce you to two guys: Steve Young and Kurt Warner. Religion has absolutely NOTHING to do with succeeding on the field.

It's possible to understand the game but be shitty on the field playing it. That's why Dilfer's an analyst now.

I mean, the defense here is that Urban Meyer built the offense around his QB. Forgive me if I'm wrong... BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO!?

[Snacks]

First, fuck you. I'm probably one of the most brutally self-aware people on this board, at least, what's left of it.

Secondly, go back and re-read what I said. I'm not denying Tebow is an athlete. What I said he doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB.

I think he could be a tight end or a fullback, or possibly even an undersized speed linebacker. But we don't know this. What we've seen from Tebow is five or six starts, the first being in a shitty failed system and the second attempt in a failing team and is unwanted by his coach and GM.

I mean, seriously. How is Tebow supposed to succeed when those who run the team have given him ZERO support?

I would like him to succeed, mainly because I think professional athletes in general should be more like Tebow. And that's not even about the religious thing, I couldn't give a shit about what he believes in.

If you think religion makes you dumb and you can't succeed as a QB because of being highly religious, let me introduce you to two guys: Steve Young and Kurt Warner. Religion has absolutely NOTHING to do with succeeding on the field.

It's possible to understand the game but be shitty on the field playing it. That's why Dilfer's an analyst now.

I mean, the defense here is that Urban Meyer built the offense around his QB. Forgive me if I'm wrong... BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO!?

No, the NFL usually doesnt build its team or offense around a QB they draft or create their QB to succeed in their offense. The only coach to ever do this that I can think of in the NFL was Shula.

Why should most NFL players be more like Tebow? No one needs to be anything they dont want to be. Everyone should be good but thats not the case. Parents should be their kids role models, if you want athletes to be good, top notch citizens then you will have a long wait. Most athletes come from tough back grounds. Plus sports in general are meant to bring out the fight in you. Many cant turn it on when on the field and off when off. Not saying some cant but many cant. The difference is who you surround yourself with and what gets reported to or by the media.

I want my athletes to be animals on the field and if they are good off thats a plus but means nothing to me because they are meant to entertain not raise my family, or my friends families or society in general. Thats what parents, teachers, family friends and communities are for.

[Snoogans]

First, fuck you. I'm probably one of the most brutally self-aware people on this board, at least, what's left of it.

Secondly, go back and re-read what I said. I'm not denying Tebow is an athlete. What I said he doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB.

I think he could be a tight end or a fullback, or possibly even an undersized speed linebacker. But we don't know this. What we've seen from Tebow is five or six starts, the first being in a shitty failed system and the second attempt in a failing team and is unwanted by his coach and GM.

I mean, seriously. How is Tebow supposed to succeed when those who run the team have given him ZERO support?

I would like him to succeed, mainly because I think professional athletes in general should be more like Tebow. And that's not even about the religious thing, I couldn't give a shit about what he believes in.

If you think religion makes you dumb and you can't succeed as a QB because of being highly religious, let me introduce you to two guys: Steve Young and Kurt Warner. Religion has absolutely NOTHING to do with succeeding on the field.


It's possible to understand the game but be shitty on the field playing it. That's why Dilfer's an analyst now.

I mean, the defense here is that Urban Meyer built the offense around his QB. Forgive me if I'm wrong... BUT ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO!?

Wait, if its not about religion, what way should QBs be more like tebow? Goin around grandstanding about some shit thats supposed to be private?

id like to inform you that tim tebow isnt religious how most people you know are religious. He worships in an evangelical crazy fuckin christian church. If you ever actually read about the shit his church does and the fuckin sham that they are, you will realize why snacks called it stupid.

Steve Young and Warner were religious. But they werent crazy, and for the most part, they werent shoving it down everyones throat and tryin to tell them what to believe.

I think, personally, that tim tebow and his stupid mom and all the other people who are in that church are really all about themselves. Thats why tebow does all this public grandstanding.

if you havent read it yet matty, go to deadspin and read this:

http://deadspin.com/5856237/the-stupid-moral-panic-over-mocking-tim-tebow-or-what-would-jesus-do-about-tebowing

and keep this part in mind:

And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

Mathew 6:5-6

[Sinestro]

Tebow 3:16

Abstinence 24:7

[Sinestro]

Do they have any pics of what everyone was dressed up in halloween?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Steve Young and Warner were religious. But they werent crazy, and for the most part, they werent shoving it down everyones throat and tryin to tell them what to believe.


Young was quiet about his religion, but Warner most definitely was NOT, and I think Warner was more over the top with his religion than Tebow was.

And besides, Tebowing isn't even Tebowing, it was Bavaroing first, and Bavaro added crossing himself to the mix.

[Snoogans]

Young was quiet about his religion, but Warner most definitely was NOT, and I think Warner was more over the top with his religion than Tebow was.

And besides, Tebowing isn't even Tebowing, it was Bavaroing first, and Bavaro added crossing himself to the mix.

warner talked an awful lot about his faith. and his wife was a bitch. but he never came off, to me at least, as acting as if people were wrong who werent that way. warner never seemed better than people.

There is something to tebow that makes him seem he thinks that, but even still, its not even about tebow. tebow is just caught in it. its about everyone being sick of how the media talked about him. thats why he is gettin all this. its not about him.

as far as football, he just really sucks. and for football, he is a fuckin DOLT. he doesnt have any brains. maybe he used them all up visualizing jesus riding on a fuckin dinosaur. cause thats the type of shit he believes.

thats the reason snacks brought up his religion and said he is a dummy. not cause he is religious, cause he believes nonsense

[Tenbatsuzen]

I just don't think you can condemn Tebow completely until he's in a system that works for him. That's all.

[Judge Smails]

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[Snacks]

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He doesnt even make the sign of cross correctly. If I remember from my many years being forced/raised Catholic you are supposed to go head, chest, left then right. He went head, chest, right and then left. Not that big of a deal but if you are so religious and all maybe you should know what you are doing?!

[Snacks]

He doesnt even make the sign of cross correctly. If I remember from my many years being forced/raised Catholic you are supposed to go head, chest, left then right. He went head, chest, right and then left. Not that big of a deal but if you are so religious and all maybe you should know what you are doing?!

Looked it up and yep Mr B fucked up! Good job knowing your own religion! Maybe if there was more meaning behind it rather then show these fake religious assholes would know what they are doing?!

The Sign of the Cross
The MOST BASIC CATHOLIC PRAYER!

http://catholicism.about.com/od/prayers/qt/Sign_of_Cross.htm

Since we make the Sign of the Cross before and after our prayers, many Catholics don't realize that the Sign of the Cross is a prayer itself. It should be said with reverence; we shouldn't rush through it on the way to the next prayer.

Using your right hand, you should touch your forehead at the mention of the Father; the lower middle of your chest at the mention of the Son; and the left shoulder on the word "Holy" and the right shoulder on the word "Spirit."

The Sign of the Cross

"In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen."

[Snoogans]

I just don't think you can condemn Tebow completely until he's in a system that works for him. That's all.

thats the point, thats not goin to happen. In florida, they built a system that worked for him. they arent gonna do that in the NFL. its never going to work

[Snacks]

thats the point, thats not goin to happen. In florida, they built a system that worked for him. they arent gonna do that in the NFL. its never going to work

Come on snoogs whats so hard about trading and cutting 52 other players that make millions all to help 1 guy who isnt smart enough to pick up an NFL offense? I see nothing wrong with that idea!!!:dry:

[Tenbatsuzen]

Come on snoogs whats so hard about trading and cutting 52 other players that make millions all to help 1 guy who isnt smart enough to pick up an NFL offense? I see nothing wrong with that idea!!!:dry:

There are 52 players on offense?

[Tenbatsuzen]

thats the point, thats not goin to happen. In florida, they built a system that worked for him. they arent gonna do that in the NFL. its never going to work

I know it's a limited pool of results, but look at Aaron Maybin. (sorry Weeka) Change of team, different coach, and suddenly he's contributing after being called the Worst Player in the NFL.

I'm not saying build a completely different system, but it's obvious he's got zero support from the Powers that Be in Denver.

Same thing could be said for Doug Flutie. Was written off as too small, and came back and contributed to an NFL team.

[Snacks]

There are 52 players on offense?

why not change the entire team? so there are 53 players minus Tebow equals 52 players.

It was a joke unlike your seriousness of an NFL team changing their entire offense and organisation to fit Tebow. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN nor should it! No team is going to put that much into 1 player, especially a player that no one that is still there wanted in the 1st place. No other team will trade for him or pick him up either and do this. Its not financially smart and it really doesnt make sense. You make it sound like Tebow deserves every opportunity to succeed? Yet he has proven in his pre draft tryouts, camps, mini camps and in actual games that he will never succeed! Why should any team do that for him? Because hes a nice guy and you want your kids to idolize him? Not a reality sorry!

[Snacks]

I know it's a limited pool of results, but look at Aaron Maybin. (sorry Weeka) Change of team, different coach, and suddenly he's contributing after being called the Worst Player in the NFL.

I'm not saying build a completely different system, but it's obvious he's got zero support from the Powers that Be in Denver.

Same thing could be said for Doug Flutie. Was written off as too small, and came back and contributed to an NFL team.

Are you fucking serious? You are using a guy who plays defense and has had a couple of good plays for your team as an example of what can be done with a QB? First Maybin hasn't done much, he has 3 sacks, 5 tackles and oh yes he has forced some fumbles but he hasn't turned into LT. He has become part time, very limited player for the jets. Its also much easier to take a LB or DL and turn him loose in to a new system but a QB needs BRAINS!

[Snoogans]

I know it's a limited pool of results, but look at Aaron Maybin. (sorry Weeka) Change of team, different coach, and suddenly he's contributing after being called the Worst Player in the NFL.

I'm not saying build a completely different system, but it's obvious he's got zero support from the Powers that Be in Denver.

Same thing could be said for Doug Flutie. Was written off as too small, and came back and contributed to an NFL team.

wait, aaron maybin is a QB now? That has nothing to do with not knowing how to read an entire defense. a receiver or RB has to read 1 or 2 guys. Same with most defensive positions. This has no relation to playin QB at all. Its not that tough for a DL or a LB to learn his role and keys and shit. Its alot different for a QB.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Are you fucking serious? You are using a guy who plays defense and has had a couple of good plays for your team as an example of what can be done with a QB? First Maybin hasn't done much, he has 3 sacks, 5 tackles and oh yes he has forced some fumbles but he hasn't turned into LT. He has become part time, very limited player for the jets. Its also much easier to take a LB or DL and turn him loose in to a new system but a QB needs BRAINS!

When the hell did I say Maybin became all-pro? I said he became a contributing player.

3 sacks for the Jets in 1/2 a season is still 3 more than he had in two seasons with the Bills.

My example was that sometimes, players flourish when given the right system and the right coach, and it's obvious that the fit is not there in Denver.

[spoon]

We all know it's going to be a failed experiment but it is silly to see so many people want him to fail.

I mean it's not like he comes off as a douche, at least to me, and it's the hype that was built around him, through no fault of his own, that's making him so polarizing.

I'm falling into that trap myself w/ all of the talk around Luck.

I mean we're already talking about the possibilty of this guy automatically replacing an all time great QB.

Fuck Tebow for the simple fact he plays for Denver in that diaphragm they call a stadium. Bronco fans are awful, but still look awesome next to Jet's nation.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSID4w73TEgqCQ7c6qFam1vSR70Zj3-tAUH0jXMdGaiqU-n0DbRFg

[spoon]

When the hell did I say Maybin became all-pro? I said he became a contributing player.

3 sacks for the Jets in 1/2 a season is still 3 more than he had in two seasons with the Bills.

My example was that sometimes, players flourish when given the right system and the right coach, and it's obvious that the fit is not there in Denver.

So let me get this straight, this team that completely doesn't support their new STARTING QB when 99% of the league says he has no business even as the backup right now should change everything about it's offense so Tebow can CONTRIBUTE? For fuck's sake Tbats, you don't even read your fucking nonsense do you?

Nobody said you called Maybin all-pro, or even first ballot HOF like Mangold. They made a simple, and mind you valid point that comparing the change of a part-time LB to that of a NFL starting QB is fucking INSANE.

[Tenbatsuzen]

So let me get this straight, this team that completely doesn't support their new STARTING QB when 99% of the league says he has no business even as the backup right now should change everything about it's offense so Tebow can CONTRIBUTE? For fuck's sake Tbats, you don't even read your fucking nonsense do you?

Nobody said you called Maybin all-pro, or even first ballot HOF like Mangold. They made a simple, and mind you valid point that comparing the change of a part-time LB to that of a NFL starting QB is fucking INSANE.

I like how everyone is conveniently forgetting my example of Flutie, though. He play LB too?

My points are the following:

1) It is clear that Tebow has zero support from coaches and management in Denver because they've done nothing but fucking bury him.

2) He is still a rookie QB in the NFL in a new system after having to flush the old system last year.

3) The sample size to bury a 2nd year QB is still small. He's had, what, 7 or 8 starts? If that?

[Snacks]

I like how everyone is conveniently forgetting my example of Flutie, though. He play LB too?

My points are the following:

1) It is clear that Tebow has zero support from coaches and management in Denver because they've done nothing but fucking bury him.

2) He is still a rookie QB in the NFL in a new system after having to flush the old system last year.

3) The sample size to bury a 2nd year QB is still small. He's had, what, 7 or 8 starts? If that?

In all honesty why are you arguing for this guy? There has to be some other motivation for you to be riding the Tebow wagon of love? He doesn't play for the Jets! Is Florida your fav college football team? I just dont understand why you want to see him succeed so badly?

There have been tons of great college players that have done dick in the NFL and never given a chance yet you pick this guy? Leinart for example. He looked like shit at times but he also looked pretty good yet hasnt been given a chance in 4 years since his injury. Vince Young has a proven winning record but yet hes now pretty much a back up and looks like he might stay that way for years to come. Nothing Tebow has done has shown he is a good or could be a good NFL QB.

Im sure within 5 years when hes out of the league he will start a church, have a weekly Sunday morning church show, take millions in donations weekly, go to poor countries with food and clothing but will only share those things as long as those poor people take his bible. call Jesus their savior and come to bible study. Once this all happens Im sure he will have a traveling church show that comes to a stadium near you at least once a year. Its not like you will lose him forever!

[spoon]

In all honesty why are you arguing for this guy? There has to be some other motivation for you to be riding the Tebow wagon of love? He doesn't play for the Jets! Is Florida your fav college football team? I just dont understand why you want to see him succeed so badly?

There have been tons of great college players that have done dick in the NFL and never given a chance yet you pick this guy? Leinart for example. He looked like shit at times but he also looked pretty good yet hasnt been given a chance in 4 years since his injury. Vince Young has a proven winning record but yet hes now pretty much a back up and looks like he might stay that way for years to come. Nothing Tebow has done has shown he is a good or could be a good NFL QB.

Im sure within 5 years when hes out of the league he will start a church, have a weekly Sunday morning church show, take millions in donations weekly, go to poor countries with food and clothing but will only share those things as long as those poor people take his bible. call Jesus their savior and come to bible study. Once this all happens Im sure he will have a traveling church show that comes to a stadium near you at least once a year. Its not like you will lose him forever!

Not to mention he's getting buried bc he's starting OVER a guy who has some abilities now, in any system versus a guy who used the HUGE talent divide that exists in college football (Snoogans point) to win some championships. Seems pretty similar to that USC phenomenon too doesn't it? If the coaches didn't support the guy in any light as you say, why is he even starting? Bc the fans chanted his name a few times? Come on tbats, even you can't believe a vet coach like Fox and long time owner (Bowlen) with top level ranking amongst owners would let that sway them? Not to mention Elway, the Denver vp of football ops doesn't dislike Tebow as a person. Elway is a detractor from Tebow's PLAYING STYLE and lack of abilities that lend to a good, hell even average NFL QB.

[Tenbatsuzen]

In all honesty why are you arguing for this guy? There has to be some other motivation for you to be riding the Tebow wagon of love? He doesn't play for the Jets! Is Florida your fav college football team? I just dont understand why you want to see him succeed so badly?


Quite honestly, it's mainly because I want him to make you three (and others) look like assholes.

[Snoogans]

Quite honestly, it's mainly because I want him to make you three (and others) look like assholes.

wow thats a great reason to get behind something. we cant look like assholes, because we are right. Do you watch him play? Do you really think he has the talent to play QB? I think we all know the answer is no. Do you think he has the talent to play H Back or TE? Yes, he probably does.

Thereby disproving your point that he isnt athetic enough for the NFL but is smart enough. Which is what this argument was fuckin about. Not whether denver fuckin wins or one of us schooled someone else.

You said something dumb, and now you are tryin to argue other shit to get out of it. He is athletic enough, thats the only reason he is even gettin a fuckin chance you moron. He just isnt smart enough.


Now stop, go talk to your wife, and let the adults have discussions

[Snoogans]

although, spoon, snacks, we are arguing with a guy who thinks mark sanchez is good. So, i guess we are the dumb ones for even tryin

[Snacks]

Not to mention he's getting buried bc he's starting OVER a guy who has some abilities now, in any system versus a guy who used the HUGE talent divide that exists in college football (Snoogans point) to win some championships. Seems pretty similar to that USC phenomenon too doesn't it? If the coaches didn't support the guy in any light as you say, why is he even starting? Bc the fans chanted his name a few times? Come on tbats, even you can't believe a vet coach like Fox and long time owner (Bowlen) with top level ranking amongst owners would let that sway them? Not to mention Elway, the Denver vp of football ops doesn't dislike Tebow as a person. Elway is a detractor from Tebow's PLAYING STYLE and lack of abilities that lend to a good, hell even average NFL QB.

He is starting over 2 guys in Denver who at least were better during camp and a 3rd guy was cut that at 1 time during camp was ranked higher on the depth chart. If I remember correctly they said at 1 point during training camp he was #4 out of 4 and that he could be cut but obviously they couldnt cut a 1st rounder that quickly.

He is terrible as a thrower and always has been. He is an incredibly talented athlete who can run and do athletic things on the field. He just isnt a QB and never was. Even in college his freshman year he would come in on short yardage plays or goal line plays and take the snap from the shot gun and run it. He is stubborn and wants to be an NFL QB even though he probably would have success as a TE or a fb/rb tweener.

As for proving us wrong, thats a great reason to back him. That statement alone proves a lot!

The fucked up thing is Miami will pick him up when hes cut (hopefully they dont trade for him) and I will have to deal with the Tebow fanboys even more then I do now!

[spoon]

Quite honestly, it's mainly because I want him to make you three (and others) look like assholes.

This is so pathetic it's comical. I don't even dislike the guy, I dislike the team he plays on and the stance he DOES put out there in public and how he tries to act like it isn't done on purpose. If it was his private relationship with his God, it would be slightly noticed, not something that defines him. One thing I will agree with Matt on is that Warner was very loud in his faith as well. He and especially his wife always praised Jesus for helping Kurt go from grocery store bagger to ball tosser.

[spoon]

The fucked up thing is Miami will pick him up when hes cut (hopefully they dont trade for him) and I will have to deal with the Tebow fanboys even more then I do now!

The difference is Cowher will make him a TE immediately and use him as a QB / player in the red zone if at all. Hell, I'm not even convince Cowher would let them pick the guy up unless it's off the trash heap for nothing or very little.

[Snoogans]

This is so pathetic it's comical. I don't even dislike the guy, I dislike the team he plays on and the stance he DOES put out there in public and how he tries to act like it isn't done on purpose. If it was his private relationship with his God, it would be slightly noticed, not something that defines him. One thing I will agree with Matt on is that Warner was very loud in his faith as well. He and especially his wife always praised Jesus for helping Kurt go from grocery store bagger to ball tosser.

i dont care about that, that only came up cause matty wanted to pretend snacks was sayin tebow was stupid cause he is religious.

if kurt warner also thinks the earth is 7600 years old, then he is a fuckin idiot too

[spoon]

http://www.theology21.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/jesus-dinosaur.png

[Snoogans]

http://www.theology21.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/jesus-dinosaur.png

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/gallery/2009/college-football/s090926_tebow.jpg

[JimBeam]

Does anybody know where Tracy Burgess went ?

I heard them say a few weeks ago that it was her last day but never heard the story behind it.

[Snacks]

Does anybody know where Tracy Burgess went ?

I heard them say a few weeks ago that it was her last day but never heard the story behind it.

all they said was she had another job and was offered a better position at that other job so she took it. i dont know what that other job is or if its even similar to what she did on b&c, for some reason they said they didnt want to go in to detail or soemthing like that.

[JimBeam]

Thanks for the scoop.

[JimBeam]

I haven't seen/heard Dominique in a while.

Is she still there ?

[JimBeam]

Snacks, no word on what heppened w/ Dominique ?

I tried finding something on Google, which included her Twitter feed, and didn't see anything about her leaving the show.

I actually thought they said a few weeks back that her contract had been renewed.

[Snacks]

Snacks, no word on what heppened w/ Dominique ?

I tried finding something on Google, which included her Twitter feed, and didn't see anything about her leaving the show.

I actually thought they said a few weeks back that her contract had been renewed.

funny you mention this. i stopped watching the broadcast for a while but the past week or so i have been back and i didnt even think of this but you are right i havent seen her at all in a while. i would say the past 1 month or 2 i would catch a few mins here or there but not as often as i used to but i havent seen her in a while. i just figured since i wasnt watching regularly i was missing her when she was in the bathroom or picking up coffee for the boomer and carton.

but like i said the past week or so i have watched an hour or more and you are right i havent seen her once. i will look into this. i would say tweet or facebook al dukes, i bet he would answer you.

[JimBeam]

Yeah she's deff not there.

Even her seat's missing.

All of her Tweets mention the guys and the show but nothing about why she's not there.

[Snacks]

Yeah she's deff not there.

Even her seat's missing.

All of her Tweets mention the guys and the show but nothing about why she's not there.

maybe she comes in, does their make up and goes to a local studio for another job and only come back up for a quick touch up? seems odd if she still mentions them.

[Tenbatsuzen]

As per her twitter:

https://twitter.com/#!/DominiqueMakeUp/status/156796801452752896

"New job".

[JimBeam]

It said the page didn't exist but I got the point.

Thanks for the info.

Again I thought she had just renewed her contract with them sometime in late 2011.

She was useless for the most part but did present an interesting distraction now and again.

[Snacks]

She was made into being so much hotter then she was. Like any male oriented job, when there is 1 female working they make her out to be so hot and she falls for all the compliments not realizing they would be doing that to any girl working there. She imho was ok at best. They really pumped up her ego for no reason and she seemed very ditzy but that doesn't matter!

[Tenbatsuzen]

It said the page didn't exist but I got the point.

Thanks for the info.

Again I thought she had just renewed her contract with them sometime in late 2011.

She was useless for the most part but did present an interesting distraction now and again.

I don't understand why she'd have a contract. She's a behind the scenes person. Is shit like that unionized?

[JimBeam]

Maybe to be on the air. I guess maybe they had to offer her something for that.

Probably not the job itself but how the job rolled into an on air personality.

I'm sure B&C pushed for her as I doubt the station would've wanted to pay her.

[Tenbatsuzen]

Maybe to be on the air. I guess maybe they had to offer her something for that.

Probably not the job itself but how the job rolled into an on air personality.

I'm sure B&C pushed for her as I doubt the station would've wanted to pay her.

I'm going to guess that she was an independent contractor that had nothing to do with WFAN but MSG.

If it was on MSG, it might have been a union job and she could move on to something else. I'm going to guess a 4 hour gig would not be that lucrative.

She wouldn't get money for being an on-air talent. At all. She was part of the "staff" who chimes in on the show. If you don't believe me, look at East Side Dave.

[keithy_19]

Let's go Botchagaloop!

[JimBeam]

I'm really starting to hate Carton more.

This gimmick where he's all of a sudden a poser Yankee fan is so lame.

I mean I know he self admits he's being a front runner but I think at heart he loves it.

I don't see him jump on the Giants bandwagon when the Jets lose. It should be the same deal.

Also I'm under the belief that Tom Coughlin is Irish so why the hell does Carton's " impersonation " make him sound like an 80 year old Russina Jewish guy ?

[JimBeam]

They interviewed Joe Tacapina ( sp ?? ) this morning.

It was pretty good except for the doucheness coming off of Tacapina.

What I liked is that neither Boomer or Carton was buying his shit.

They weren't rude and it never got condescending on either side but you could see they were agreeing to disagree.

The one thing that kiled me was Tacapina was shooting down the " evidence " they suggested by saying " somebody tells you something and you just believe it " the whole time he was telling them something and wanting them to believe it.

I wanted them to say " Well why are you telling any more of a truth than the others ? "

He also had a crappy answer when they brough up that A-Rod said he didn't know Bosh and then siad he did.

Tacapina said that it was one of A-Rod's people that made the statement that they didn't know each other and that A-Rod can't know all that his people say.

But they never pressed him on how a spokesperson for A-Rod could be so wrong and A-Rod, or even another spokesperson, went on record to clarify it.