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jetdog
09-13-2007, 04:11 PM
So, I'm a sucker for sports stories when they are told by the orginal atheletes, and especially when they are accompianied by old school footage I have never seen before, but at the same time, I think music is so much more powerful, i.e. I watched both "the best damn sports moments blah blah" and a DVD of the Clash tonight. So, to bring it to a visceral level, which would you rather be? Someone who can flabergast people with their athletic ability, or someone who can take peoples breath away with their artistic creation?

(Logic has no place in this decision)

spoon
09-13-2007, 04:23 PM
Tough call, but pending on the sport it can leave you a mess once your career ends. So that has to factor in. Bottom line is legacy, creation, money, fame and scratch come with both careers at the top. I'm truly not partial to either angle at this point.

marky2bucks
09-13-2007, 05:04 PM
Artist.

Much more of a legacy than an athlete. Sport is entertainment, art is life.

DarkHippie
09-13-2007, 05:13 PM
Well, I am an artist, but I wish I had more time for it.

Bossanova
09-13-2007, 05:18 PM
As an athlete that lost his college career to injury, I see how fast it can end. I would choose artist. As much as I love and need hockey, I always turn to music. I choose artist. Art always hits my spiritually were hockey just keeps me going

Bulldogcakes
09-13-2007, 05:41 PM
I have the best of both worlds. I'm an Art-lete.

donnie_darko
09-13-2007, 05:48 PM
can we throw the word "successful" into the question?

I'd rather be a successful artist, being an artist in the public eye lasts a lifetime, an athlete......meeehhhhhh

ChrisTheCop
09-13-2007, 05:48 PM
I'd rather be an athlete with Aids
than an artist with Parkinsons.

Tall_James
09-13-2007, 05:50 PM
Why can't I be both? It seems easy enough...

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/6b/12/e92e92c008a05b0a0db45010._AA240_.L.jpg

ralphbxny
09-13-2007, 06:07 PM
If I get to choose what sport athlete if not an artist!

LiddyRules
09-13-2007, 06:20 PM
Artist, no question.

The Silencer
09-13-2007, 06:22 PM
athlete-no question...just today i got tackled by a varsity wide reciever lol...i ate that shit and still got the TD lol

PapaBear
09-13-2007, 07:29 PM
Artists can work well into old age and are remembered longer. They also get laid well into old age. Easy choice.

FUNKMAN
09-13-2007, 07:54 PM
artist

you can create anywhere and anytime

LiddyRules
09-13-2007, 08:42 PM
Artists can work well into old age and are remembered longer. They also get laid well into old age. Easy choice. I'm also going to say artists hang out with far cooler people. Jocks and jock-lackeys suck.

drjoek
09-13-2007, 08:44 PM
Artist

PapaBear
09-13-2007, 08:57 PM
I'm also going to say artists hang out with far cooler people. Jocks and jock-lackeys suck.
That's a good point. When I lived in NC, almost all my friends were artists or musicians. I miss those days.

Fat_Sunny
09-13-2007, 09:11 PM
Man, If F_S Gets To Be Re-Born Into Another Life, He Most Certainly Would Want To Be A Talent-Laden Lead Singer And Lead Guitarist Of A Rock And Roll Band. If That's An Artist, Then Artist It Is!



http://i16.tinypic.com/4l417og.gif

A.J.
09-14-2007, 03:32 AM
Why not be both?

http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/arroyo.jpg

http://www.boomerangshop.com/dvdcover/ImageWeb/BernieWilliamsTheJourney31600_f.jpg

RogerDornShortHops
09-14-2007, 05:40 AM
Athlete, definately. I can't even imagine the feeling of 50,000 people surrounding you in a stadium cheering or booing you. It's an aspect of life that I will never get to experience and it pisses me off. Can you imagine being Aaron Boone and hitting that walk-off homer in Game 7 against Boston?? I was there and it was one of the greatest feelings of MY life. I can't imaging how he must of felt.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 05:55 AM
Artist for sure.

Famous paintings from hundreds of years ago still hang in museums and are autioned for millions.

Classic music is still played and celebrated on radio stations. And it's enjoyed by experts and casual listeners alike.

No one outside of asshole sports stats guys gives 2 shits about stuff that's older than like 20-30 years.

And when compared to the paintings, it's not even a contest. Michelangelo is a name everyone knows. No one cares who scored the winning goal in a game back then.

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 06:16 AM
Artist for sure.

Famous paintings from hundreds of years ago still hang in museums and are autioned for millions.

Famous sporting memorabilia from a hundred years ago hangs and will continue for hundreds of years for millions to see

Classic music is still played and celebrated on radio stations. And it's enjoyed by experts and casual listeners alike.

Classic sports are still discussed and celebrated on radio stations. Enjoyed by maniac and casual sport fans alike


No one outside of asshole sports stats guys gives 2 shits about stuff that's older than like 20-30 years.

I don't even know what that means???

And when compared to the paintings, it's not even a contest. Michelangelo is a name everyone knows. No one cares who scored the winning goal in a game back then.

Why is it not a contest? Cause you threw out a historic household name? Okay Babe Ruth... Just cause you don't care who scored the winning goal in a game way back when doesn't mean millions others don't



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Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 06:19 AM
So Michelangelo can be compared to Babe Ruth? ......sure he can.

OK, name me a famous athelete and show me his body of work from the late 1400's.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 06:21 AM
Also, you're going to compare a ratty old baseball jersey to an entire movement written by someone like Bach?

OK, if you say so bro.

Furtherman
09-14-2007, 06:28 AM
Although I would dream for the feeling of hitting a home run in the bottom of the ninth to win the World Series, I'd have to say artist. They're much more interesting and open minded.


And as for Bernie Williams, I saw him play at the Jammys a few years ago and he was awesome. I mean really, really good. Now that is talent.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 06:34 AM
Sports are way too regional too. For some reason we call our pro sports teams "World Champions" when all they did was play against teams in the US. Actual "World Champions" are the people who win the Olympics, but no one really remembers those guys.

Also, a guy in Germany isn't going to get all googly eyed looking at US sports memorabilia. But people all over the world enjoy music and art of the same kind. Paintings go on worldwide tours. As to musicians.

RogerDornShortHops
09-14-2007, 06:36 AM
So Michelangelo can be compared to Babe Ruth? ......sure he can.

OK, name me a famous athelete and show me his body of work from the late 1400's.

The 1400's wasn't a good time for sports. People were pussy's. There was actually a law that banned football.

topless_mike
09-14-2007, 06:39 AM
No one cares who scored the winning goal in a game back then.


stephan matteau scored the game and series ending goal in game 7 vs the devils.
rangers went on to win the cup that year (94)





ugh- im such a fucking loser. kill me.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 06:45 AM
stephan matteau scored the game and series ending goal in game 7 vs the devils.
rangers went on to win the cup that year (94)





ugh- im such a fucking loser. kill me.

I'm not talking about during our lifetime. If you're a fan of something, you're going to remember things about it. Scores, assists, goals. I remember things about Death Metal bands I liked that no one would give a shit about, and I don't give a shit about sports stats. That's just the way it is, the stuff means something to the fan.

But I was talking hundereds of years ago. Sports doesn't have the longevity and an individual team doesn't really have the worldwide attention that something from the arts could.

King Hippos Bandaid
09-14-2007, 06:45 AM
My Gut says athlete since I love SPorts

But an Artist has a longer shelf life and you becoome relivant for a longer time

Plus your music can be used in other Activites which gives you Royalties

tough choice


But I want 5 HRs in a Game

Athlete it is

:king:

RogerDornShortHops
09-14-2007, 06:46 AM
It seems that most of the posts that would rather be the famous artists are because of the recognition more than the actual feeling of being an artist. Most of the famous guys gain most of their noteriety after they die, correct. So, lot of you will pick artist b/c of how you will be remembered.

I think that's definately a valid reason. However, I guess I'm more of a guy that's in the moment, wants to actually feel the love and admiration from people while I'm alive, at the moment I actually acheive greatness.

Think of this. You just finish what will, in 200 yrs, be called the greatest piece of art ever. Where are you? Alone, in a studio apartment. You probably initially will have a feeling of gratification, maybe pat yourself on the back. If you're like me, this will be followed by an immense feeling of loneliness and dispair.

Now, look at it this way. You just finished the same piece of art. However, now there are 50,000 people surrounding you and they ALL realize at the exact moment that you finish it that it is an instant classic, a piece not rivaled by many others. And they let you know. Everyone goes absolutely ballistic, chanting your name, not letting you leave the arena without continous waves to the crowd.

What sounds better?

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 06:50 AM
This question is so loaded anyway. It's pretty much broken down into Sport and Non-Sport fans. the real question behind this discussion is this:

Do you want to be huge in your respective field now and pretty much just be big while you're alive or do you want to leave a footprint on society that will be appreciated for a long time after your death?

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 06:53 AM
It seems that most of the posts that would rather be the famous artists are because of the recognition more than the actual feeling of being an artist. Most of the famous guys gain most of their noteriety after they die, correct. So, lot of you will pick artist b/c of how you will be remembered.

I think that's definately a valid reason. However, I guess I'm more of a guy that's in the moment, wants to actually feel the love and admiration from people while I'm alive, at the moment I actually acheive greatness.

Think of this. You just finish what will, in 200 yrs, be called the greatest piece of art ever. Where are you? Alone, in a studio apartment. You probably initially will have a feeling of gratification, maybe pat yourself on the back. If you're like me, this will be followed by an immense feeling of loneliness and dispair.

Now, look at it this way. You just finished the same piece of art. However, now there are 50,000 people surrounding you and they ALL realize at the exact moment that you finish it that it is an instant classic, a piece not rivaled by many others. And they let you know. Everyone goes absolutely ballistic, chanting your name, not letting you leave the arena without continous waves to the crowd.

What sounds better?

Not everyone craves attention and doesn't thrive in that kind of environment. So someone who wants to remain more solitary, the sports example is torture and pointless.

And we're not talking just a starving artist types. We're talking musicians who play in front of just as many people as a sporting event would draw. Arts don't just cover actual paintings. But even those kinds of artists have gallery showings and things of that nature.

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 07:02 AM
So Michelangelo can be compared to Babe Ruth? ......sure he can.

OK, name me a famous athelete and show me his body of work from the late 1400's.


So because people started creating art before professional sports its better???


In 2600 Jackie Robinson will still be a household name. The Chinese love American sports. ha ha

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 07:06 AM
Also, you're going to compare a ratty old baseball jersey to an entire movement written by someone like Bach?

OK, if you say so bro.

How about I compare the 1980 usa Olympic hockey team to a stick figure created by a kindergartner? Cause that's art right???

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 07:19 AM
How about I compare the 1980 usa Olympic hockey team to a stick figure created by a kindergartner? Cause that's art right???

Try comparing 2 things from people at the same level of their profession. I could be dumb like you and ask you to compare the Mona Lisa to a child's game of kickball, but I wouldn't do that.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 07:21 AM
So because people started creating art before professional sports its better???


In 2600 Jackie Robinson will still be a household name. The Chinese love American sports. ha ha

Yes. There's more long lastign worth to the arts then sports. Sports acheivements are fleeting and aren't remembered much longer than the lifetime of the person and his fans.

In 2600 Jackie Robinson will be in the history books, but famous paintings will still be on display in museums all over the world.

DolaMight
09-14-2007, 07:22 AM
Sandwich Artisté or Professional Eater?

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 07:25 AM
Try comparing 2 things from people at the same level of their profession. I could be dumb like you and ask you to compare the Mona Lisa to a child's game of kickball, but I wouldn't do that.


you already did comparing a ratty old jersey to Bach

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 07:28 AM
Yes. There's more long lastign worth to the arts then sports. Sports acheivements are fleeting and aren't remembered much longer than the lifetime of the person and his fans.

In 2600 Jackie Robinson will be in the history books, but famous paintings will still be on display in museums all over the world.

So what's the difference? Does something have to hanging on the wall as oppsed to written in a book to make it longer lasting?

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 08:53 AM
you already did comparing a ratty old jersey to Bach

I was talking about the legacy 2 men left behind. Bach left many pieces of music behind that people still perform and enjoy today.

Someone who played baseball in the 20's left his mark on his time, but ultimately now only has some antiques and his stats left. The ballplayer accomplished a lot in his life and I'm sure had a great run, but I don't feel it's a lasting a legacy in the least.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 08:57 AM
So what's the difference? Does something have to hanging on the wall as oppsed to written in a book to make it longer lasting?

A painting speaks to your senses. People find meaning in the scene, the colors used, the painter's technique. A piece of music can be enjoyed and inspire people. But both of these things last a lot longer than the musician.

Stats in a book are cold. They're just numbers. When the athelete was playing and making the stats in the book, he was living large and impressing his fans.

I see much more worth in the artist's life. But again, we're kinda arguing the Now vs. Later angle again.

topless_mike
09-14-2007, 09:16 AM
I was talking about the legacy 2 men left behind. Bach left many pieces of music behind that people still perform and enjoy today.

Someone who played baseball in the 20's left his mark on his time, but ultimately now only has some antiques and his stats left. The ballplayer accomplished a lot in his life and I'm sure had a great run, but I don't feel it's a lasting a legacy in the least.

now i agree.
bach works are never forgotten, no matter who plays them.
as records get broken, all of the "was record holder" players fall into the shadows.

besides. owning a record holders baseball will not get you laid. owning a picasso will.

Death Metal Moe
09-14-2007, 09:47 AM
I don't even really want to shit on sports, even though I pretty much hate all of them.

If someone enjoys watching/playing them and gets a lot out of it, then go enjoy it. Like I said, this is a very loaded question that will split people down the "Like or Hate" sports line in the end.

MobCounty
09-14-2007, 09:55 AM
<-Crummy artist.

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 10:19 AM
I was talking about the legacy 2 men left behind. Bach left many pieces of music behind that people still perform and enjoy today.

Someone who played baseball in the 20's left his mark on his time, but ultimately now only has some antiques and his stats left. The ballplayer accomplished a lot in his life and I'm sure had a great run, but I don't feel it's a lasting a legacy in the least.

Jackie Robinson left behind quite a legacy. Babe Ruth left quite a legacy? MJ left quite a legacy. I think its safe to say both artists and athletes can leave a lasting meaningful legacy.

EddieMoscone
09-14-2007, 10:24 AM
I'd rather be the son of an artist or athlete. That way I can enjoy the spoils without having to do the hard work or have any talent.

Earlshog
09-14-2007, 10:26 AM
A painting speaks to your senses. People find meaning in the scene, the colors used, the painter's technique. A piece of music can be enjoyed and inspire people. But both of these things last a lot longer than the musician.

Stats in a book are cold. They're just numbers. When the athelete was playing and making the stats in the book, he was living large and impressing his fans.

I see much more worth in the artist's life. But again, we're kinda arguing the Now vs. Later angle again.


Being an athlete is not stats in a book. Watching Michael Jordan inspires people to pick up a basketball, the same way listing to John Lennon inspires a kid to pick up a guitar, or seeing a Picasso and picking up a brush.

MrPink
09-14-2007, 12:37 PM
I'd be an artist, a guitarist in a metal band to be more specific. When I run out of ideas, I'll kill myself.

Edit: Maybe I'd rather be an ultimate fighter. I have a lot of dreams where I'm a fighter.

MadMatt
09-14-2007, 01:26 PM
It really depends on how "hardcore" you are going with this concept. Is it an all or nothing proposition or based on our current ability level? In other words, would I still be the me I am now but with enhanced athletic or artistic ability?

I am already rather artistic, but would love to have an athlete's body (again). However, if being athletic meant I could only draw stick figures, couldn't play music, or do any of the other artistic stuff I can do now, I would definitely go with artist.

Also, somebody mentioned success/fame. that would also color my decision, but again it would primarily depend on the premise stated above.

LSS - I don't know... :wallbash:

moochcassidy
09-14-2007, 02:13 PM
no question- artist

DarkHippie
09-14-2007, 03:40 PM
Why is it that everyone is refering to artists as either musicians or painters? How about a little love for writers!!!

buzzard
09-14-2007, 03:46 PM
Artists go on arting atheletes have a limited window of opportunity