Bloodiest day in American History...145 years ago today

[El Mudo]

The Battle of Antietam.... (http://www.nps.gov/archive/anti/battle.htm)


http://www.fau.edu/library/images/antietam.jpg



http://www.cob-net.org/antietam/images/antietam_bridge02.jpg


http://www.mikelynaugh.com/VirtualCivilWar/Yesterday/Images/Antietam.jpg


If youve never been there, you owe it to yourself to go. Not only is it one of the most beautiful places on earth (especially in the Fall), but theres NO commercialism whatsoever...no fast food places, no banks, no supermarkets, unlike Gettysburg, which has been completely overrun with that stuff. You can even take the short 5 minute drive down 34 to Shepherdstown, and do some beautiful scenic driving along the Potomac, then head up the other way on 34 and take a wonderful drive over the mountains, and go right by Burkittsville.


Make sure to visit the National Cemetery there too...Patrick Roy, who died on the USS Cole, is buried there

[thejives]

Wow. Sobering.

Gettysburg is pretty commercial, but I wasn't terribly offended.
I think by and large the U.S. does battlefield memorials pretty well.
Pearl Harbor looks classy, and Custer's last stand is a national park.

I guess the worst one would be the Alamo, huh?

[El Mudo]

Wow. Sobering.

Gettysburg is pretty commercial, but I wasn't terribly offended.
I think by and large the U.S. does battlefield memorials pretty well.
Pearl Harbor looks classy, and Custer's last stand is a national park.

I guess the worst one would be the Alamo, huh?


Well thats because the lady who ran it for a while thought the Barracks (where 95% of the fighting took place) were completely irrelevant and had them destroyed....all thats left is the Church (and the "hump" in the front was added by the army in the 1850s)

[King Hippos Bandaid]

thank god we diddnt have 20th-21st century technology during the Civil War


:king:

[buzzard]

This site is pretty cool also
http://www.civilwarhome.com/antietam.htm

classy thread! that's one of my favorite uncommercialized places in the USA

I used to like Tombstone,AZ but they've rewwnd it!

[DarkHippie]

I guess the worst one would be the Alamo, huh?

The basement is pretty cool

[torker]

Happy 9/17!
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[Bulldogcakes]

Not only is it one of the most beautiful places on earth (especially in the Fall), but theres NO commercialism whatsoever...no fast food places, no banks, no supermarkets, unlike Gettysburg

What the fuck am I supposed to do, STARVE??!!!

AND WHERE DO I GO TO TAKE A FUCKIN PISS?

I'll let you primitives 'rough it'. Call me when they build a nice, American strip mall.

[Hottub]

I know you were trying to be funny, but you weren't. A liitle respect for the hallowed grounds, please.

Shelby Foote has a great deal devoted to Atietam in his Civil War Series. A fascinating read! I found a link to his audio books for download. (http://www.simplyaudiobooks.com/audio-books-author/Shelby+Foote/3013/)

[Bulldogcakes]

I guess I'm just not as offended by the sight of a McDonalds as some folks are.


Plus, I'm in a silly mood tonight.

[El Mudo]

What the fuck am I supposed to do, STARVE??!!!

AND WHERE DO I GO TO TAKE A FUCKIN PISS?

I'll let you primitives 'rough it'. Call me when they build a nice, American strip mall.


Try the Visitors Center


And the American Deli in the town of Sharpsburg has really good sandwiches, and Nutter's Ice Cream is awesome too, plus there are some really good local restuarants in Shepherdstown, and some pretty good restaurants in Boonsboro and Keedysville

There's also a Mennonite Bakery around there somewhere, but I have not been able to find it yet

[PapaBear]

Try the Visitors Center


And the American Deli in the town of Sharpsburg has really good sandwiches, and Nutter's Ice Cream is awesome too, plus there are some really good local restuarants in Shepherdstown, and some pretty good restaurants in Boonsboro and Keedysville

There's also a Mennonite Bakery around there somewhere, but I have not been able to find it yet
Not to mention, you can take a short drive to Berkeley Springs for a nice warm spring sauna and massage. I see big black cars with Diplomatic tags all the time there. Hell... George Washington used to bath there!

[keithy_19]

I know that Gettysburg is one of the few places I've been to where I can't even speak. It's a haunting experience.

[JPMNICK]

I know that Gettysburg is one of the few places I've been to where I can't even speak. It's a haunting experience.

you should write and over dramatic poem about it

[A.J.]

I've been by there a few years ago and it really is something to look at all the beauty and think of all the carnage that happened there.

[El Mudo]

146 years today...


http://www.history.army.mil/StaffRide/Antietam/Images/25.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~schuylkillcwrt/antietam_2005_05_01/stopB_pikefence.jpg


http://civilwarart.southgeorgiacreations.com/antmon14.jpg

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RIP boys...

[Marist Mike]

Yeah, Antietam sure is a sight to behold. I am currently living in Shepherdstown, and had my parents down here a couple of weeks ago. We took a tour of the site, and I was just amazed. It's crazy when you think about how quiet a field that is and how much carnage was there so not so long ago when you think about it. I think of it as a place that is peaceful, yet soaked with blood.

[Holes]

Absolutely an amazing place to go visit. You can almost visualize the Federals trying to cross "Burnside's Bridge" and being held in check by sharpshooters.

The corn field gave me chills.

About Gettysburg. They are doing a lot to return it to its exact 1863 look. If something is on the battlefield, all 43 square miles of it, they are knocking it down. However, if it is right outside of the field's lines, then there will be probably be a BK or a hotel.

But Gettysburg is f'n awesome. I could spend a week there. So mush to do.

[jennysmurf]

The basement is pretty cool

:wub:

[ChrisBrown]

The Battle of Antietam.... (http://www.nps.gov/archive/anti/battle.htm)


http://www.fau.edu/library/images/antietam.jpg



http://www.cob-net.org/antietam/images/antietam_bridge02.jpg


http://www.mikelynaugh.com/VirtualCivilWar/Yesterday/Images/Antietam.jpg


If youve never been there, you owe it to yourself to go. Not only is it one of the most beautiful places on earth (especially in the Fall), but theres NO commercialism whatsoever...no fast food places, no banks, no supermarkets, unlike Gettysburg, which has been completely overrun with that stuff. You can even take the short 5 minute drive down 34 to Shepherdstown, and do some beautiful scenic driving along the Potomac, then head up the other way on 34 and take a wonderful drive over the mountains, and go right by Burkittsville.


Make sure to visit the National Cemetery there too...Patrick Roy, who died on the USS Cole, is buried there

Thanks for the tip. I have always wanted to go. Good to hear it hasn't been commercialized yet.

[El Mudo]

Yeah, Antietam sure is a sight to behold. I am currently living in Shepherdstown, and had my parents down here a couple of weeks ago. We took a tour of the site, and I was just amazed. It's crazy when you think about how quiet a field that is and how much carnage was there so not so long ago when you think about it. I think of it as a place that is peaceful, yet soaked with blood.


Love Shepherdstown...I take German Street down to the Potomac all the time and drive by the battlefield there (where the 118th Pennsylvania got pummeled by Powell Hill)...they have some good restuarants there and a museum with a collection donated by Mary Tyler Moore of her dead husband's Civil War memorabilia

[CofyCrakCocaine]

I know this thread's about Antietam, but I've never been there and someone here mentioned Gettysburg. I lived in Gettysburg for the better part of five years and I've got to say that the battlefield initially did not impress me. Nearly every square inch of the battlefield has some statue or memorial obelisk erected to the point where it is difficult to ascertain what the battlefield looked like back then. The legions of tourists and their buses also diminished the beauty and solitude of this hallowed ground. There used to be a tower you could climb up in the middle of the battlefield and use those standing binocular things, but they demolished it for looking unsightly.

The town itself is an industrial wasteland (full of really nice people too- but they can't make a pizza worth a damn and there's no steaks to be had anywhere) whose main highlight is the Walmart on 15. As such I incorrectly associated the battlefield with the town and considered the whole thing a tourist trap exploiting the blood shed in 1863.

The only way I learned to appreciate the real beauty of the battlefield was by actually walking through the whole thing in the autumn and spring, when tourist season wasn't in full swing. Driving does not do the place justice- it's little different from driving down a corn maze in the autumn if you're doing it by car. My favorite part of the battlefield is up by where General Reynolds was shot dead from his horse during the first day. Watching the sun set over those quiet yellowing fields is something I'll not easily forget...

The battlefield also had alot of ponds, small forests, and other natural growths that appeared after the battle. As I've come to understand, they've pretty much gutted all these natural outcroppings to simulate a stronger 1863 farmland feel- something I do not think was either necessary or cost-effective for Pennsylvania's budget considering there is no charge for going to the battlefield to begin with. The battlefield has actually grown uglier because of it- if they really wanted to simulate the way the battlefield looked back then, they'd have to remove all those granite memorials erected in the 1870's-1940s too- which makes about as much sense as bulldozing all the surrounding woodlands. :annoyed:

[El Mudo]

The only way I learned to appreciate the real beauty of the battlefield was by actually walking through the whole thing in the autumn and spring, when tourist season wasn't in full swing. Driving does not do the place justice- it's little different from driving down a corn maze in the autumn if you're doing it by car. My favorite part of the battlefield is up by where General Reynolds was shot dead from his horse during the first day. Watching the sun set over those quiet yellowing fields is something I'll not easily forget...


Love the Chambersburg Pike and McPherson's Ridge....like East Cemetery Hill better tho but that's just me ;)

The battlefield also had alot of ponds, small forests, and other natural growths that appeared after the battle. As I've come to understand, they've pretty much gutted all these natural outcroppings to simulate a stronger 1863 farmland feel- something I do not think was either necessary or cost-effective for Pennsylvania's budget considering there is no charge for going to the battlefield to begin with. The battlefield has actually grown uglier because of it- if they really wanted to simulate the way the battlefield looked back then, they'd have to remove all those granite memorials erected in the 1870's-1940s too- which makes about as much sense as bulldozing all the surrounding woodlands.

Haha...I remember our argument about that. For one thing, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania doesn't own the land...the National Park Service does, and its not really going to affect Pennsylvania's budget all that much...they will still get millions of tourists there every year. We have already lost a lot of the first day's field because the town's about 3x the size it was during the battle, not to mention the college keeps screwing around with the first day's field. And GOD HELP that area if those jackasses succeed in building that dumb casino they want to build there

But for the sake of that, it is better going where the tourists DO NOT go there (East Cemetery Hill, Barlow's Knoll, the First Day's Field, Peach Orchard/Wheatfield) and when they aren't there, I agree with you 100% on that one.

Don't ever go there on an anniversary weekend or during the biker conventions...made the mistake of being up there for the latter once and its not really fun to hear bikes roaring all over the place at 2am when youre trying to sleep

[CofyCrakCocaine]

Seminary Ridge is also quite lovely any time of the year. I'm a big fan of the Devil's Den as well, but that's not exactly pretty- just really interesting. There's a zillion people there but what ya gonna do? The one thing I'd like to see done for renovation at Devil's Den is for some Civil War cannon to launch a few rounds into the nearby portajohn's that are readily visible now that the trees blocking them from sight have all been cleared out. Talk about splash damage...holy shit. (Funkman-esque!)

That guy is hellbent on building a casino in Gettysburg- the proposal's already been shot down in 2005, but he's been persistent to try again since. It would be a disaster for the area considering the 1-lane roads are already congested as is and would obviously increase the already considerable air pollution that occurs there. Most people I've talked to down there are deeply opposed to it but business-types are enormous fans of the plan.

Tourists are good people- just really noisy and kinda diminishes on the whole 'personal experience' part of seeing these places. Always good to bring a friend along for a long walk though. Be prepared to smack yourself in the head though- I took an ex there once and she asked me "what sides fought in this battle and who won?"

[Jughead]

This site is pretty cool also
http://www.civilwarhome.com/antietam.htm

classy thread! that's one of my favorite uncommercialized places in the USA

I used to like Tombstone,AZ but they've rewwnd it!

This has been some great reading......I have planned a trip to Gettysburg twice but have yet to go there..I will soon after reading some of your post....

[Bob Impact]

Little known fact, in late 1988, most of the women on the eastern seaboard "synched up" leading to the crowning of a new bloodiest day in American History.

[Holes]

Uhhhh.....

Good effort, I guess.

[Snoogans]

http://www.cob-net.org/antietam/images/antietam_bridge02.jpg

am I the only one who wondered for a min why he added a picture of Amen Corner to this thread?

[Holes]

http://www.cob-net.org/antietam/images/antietam_bridge02.jpg

am I the only one who wondered for a min why he added a picture of Amen Corner to this thread?

It's Burnside's Bridge.

[Snoogans]

It's Burnside's Bridge.

Goin over Ray's Creek?

[Holes]

Goin over Ray's Creek?

http://www.spelunked.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/12th-hole3.jpg

I do see the resemblence in the bridge.

[Meataball23]

Absolutely love the thread. Ive got a stupid history degree and I've always wanted to go check out these sites but I havent yet. Definitely need to make the trip.

[Snoogans]

Absolutely love the thread. Ive got a stupid history degree and I've always wanted to go check out these sites but I havent yet. Definitely need to make the trip.

Yea me too. Tickets to the Masters are expensive as fuck though

[Snoogans]

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0917/pg2_g_augusta2_580.jpg

it looks so much cooler now then id did when they were fightin on it

[Furtherman]

SHARPSBURG, Md. - Park officials say a visitor has found the remains of a Civil War soldier at the Antietam National Battlefield in western Maryland. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28562487/)

Battlefield Park Superintendent John Howard says a visitor found bone fragments and a uniform button near a groundhog hole in October.

During an excavation last month, workers led by a National Park Service archaeologist found more bone fragments, buttons and a belt buckle establishing that the young man was from New York state.

[El Mudo]

Thats a pretty phenomenal find.

There were soldiers from NY all over the battlefield, so I'd be really interested to see where they found it at.

About 20 years ago they found remains from three soldiers in the Irish Brigade near the Sunken Road.

[El Mudo]

Article with pictures (http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=214038&format=html)

[Kevin]

Not only was Patrick Roy a hell of a soilder, but a hell of a goalie to boot.

[high fly]

The Battle of Antietam.... (http://www.nps.gov/archive/anti/battle.htm)


http://www.fau.edu/library/images/antietam.jpg



http://www.cob-net.org/antietam/images/antietam_bridge02.jpg


http://www.mikelynaugh.com/VirtualCivilWar/Yesterday/Images/Antietam.jpg


If youve never been there, you owe it to yourself to go. Not only is it one of the most beautiful places on earth (especially in the Fall), but theres NO commercialism whatsoever...no fast food places, no banks, no supermarkets, unlike Gettysburg, which has been completely overrun with that stuff. You can even take the short 5 minute drive down 34 to Shepherdstown, and do some beautiful scenic driving along the Potomac, then head up the other way on 34 and take a wonderful drive over the mountains, and go right by Burkittsville.


Make sure to visit the National Cemetery there too...Patrick Roy, who died on the USS Cole, is buried there



Thanks, elMudo.
If you got more pix, please post them.
As for commercialization, the Fredericksburg battlefields are unblemished with fast food joints and the like, although they let a forest grow up where open fields were in the battlefield park.
In town the Park Service bought up a lot of houses on one side of Willis Street in front of the stone wall along Sunken Road and levelled them, but curiously decided to do some cutesy landscaping and planting at one end trying to prettify it.
I have been working on a house there and in one shovelfull found a sweet bullet that hit something causing a spiral groove to be deeply cut into the top half of it and an arrowhead; and have dug up bone fragments as well. I don't metal detect, this came while putting an addition on a house.
It's all about 10 inches down.
A guy who used to live next door dug up a jewelled necklace that apparently was quite valuable. I found another bullet as well and have some more digging to do installing some drain tile and will be passing the dirt through a sifter.

There have been efforts to protect the battlefields at Spotsylvania Courthouse, Chenellorsville and the Wilderness, with mixed success.
It's a damned shame some of the first (if not the first) zig-zag trenches out in the woods west of Fredericksburg are on land I don't think has been bought for preservation. Though it is sparsely settled now, that won't last long.
I have spoken to oldtimers who said at one time at Bloody Angle that bullets were laying around like confetti.
They've let a lot of that grow up as well.
Occasionally one still sees American and foreign military personnel out studying the battlefield at Chancellorsville.

I live in Stafford and went out one day after a heavy rain and found a broken Civil War bayonet in the driveway that became revealed by erosion....

[El Mudo]

Thanks, elMudo.
If you got more pix, please post them.
As for commercialization, the Fredericksburg battlefields are unblemished with fast food joints and the like, although they let a forest grow up where open fields were in the battlefield park.
In town the Park Service bought up a lot of houses on one side of Willis Street in front of the stone wall along Sunken Road and levelled them, but curiously decided to do some cutesy landscaping and planting at one end trying to prettify it.
I have been working on a house there and in one shovelfull found a sweet bullet that hit something causing a spiral groove to be deeply cut into the top half of it and an arrowhead; and have dug up bone fragments as well. I don't metal detect, this came while putting an addition on a house.
It's all about 10 inches down.
A guy who used to live next door dug up a jewelled necklace that apparently was quite valuable. I found another bullet as well and have some more digging to do installing some drain tile and will be passing the dirt through a sifter.

There have been efforts to protect the battlefields at Spotsylvania Courthouse, Chenellorsville and the Wilderness, with mixed success.
It's a damned shame some of the first (if not the first) zig-zag trenches out in the woods west of Fredericksburg are on land I don't think has been bought for preservation. Though it is sparsely settled now, that won't last long.
I have spoken to oldtimers who said at one time at Bloody Angle that bullets were laying around like confetti.
They've let a lot of that grow up as well.
Occasionally one still sees American and foreign military personnel out studying the battlefield at Chancellorsville.

I live in Stafford and went out one day after a heavy rain and found a broken Civil War bayonet in the driveway that became revealed by erosion....


Fredericksburg was one of the main centres of the war. It was first occupied in 1862, and pretty much was in the middle of fighting for the next two years. When the Federals first held the town, the garrison commander was John Reynolds (the one of Gettysburg fame), and he was so benevolent that when he was captured during the 7 Days battles, the townspeople petitioned for his release. It was a major depot for the Federals (Aquia Landing in particular) up until 1864, when Grant moved to the James.

The battle of Fredericksburg in 1862 itself is so shrouded in myth and legend its hard to separate the facts from what really happened. The "story" of the battle is what happened in front of the Stone Wall and Marye's Heights, but the battle itself had already been pretty much decided by then. The V Corps broke the Confederate lines in AP Hill's/Stonewall Jackson's sector south of the town (Hill's lines were broken up by a swamp, which left a huge gap in their lines that no one deemed important enough to fix) but were driven back. The battle also was one of the first battles that featured "house to house" fighting (in the streets of Fredericksburg), was the first battle that American troops made a waterborne landing under fire (when Hall's brigade crossed the Rappohannock), and Fredericksburg became the only American town that's ever been sacked (Federal troops ripped the place apart after they cleared it out). It was also deluged with wounded from the Wilderness and Spotsylvania after those two battles. The town suffered immensely during the war.

[Syd]

Antietam is a cool visit but definitely don't go there during the summer. Totally goddamn miserable.

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[Mullenax]

Try the Visitors Center


And the American Deli in the town of Sharpsburg has really good sandwiches, and Nutter's Ice Cream is awesome too, plus there are some really good local restuarants in Shepherdstown, and some pretty good restaurants in Boonsboro and Keedysville

There's also a Mennonite Bakery around there somewhere, but I have not been able to find it yet
Shepherd University Graduate!
I don't know about the Mennonite Bakery, but I used to work at the Shepherdstown Sweet Shop where we made traditional breads and German old-world style desserts (like Holiday Stollen). Antietam re-enactment days were the best. The hippies used to walk to Nutter's Ice Cream from Shepherdstown.

[Mullenax]

And how can you go to Antietam and not drive up to Harper's Ferry, site of some John Brown raid stuff? Miss the panhandle... and that one guy who had ANTI ETAM tattooed on his knuckles.

[high fly]

Fredericksburg was one of the main centres of the war. It was first occupied in 1862, and pretty much was in the middle of fighting for the next two years. When the Federals first held the town, the garrison commander was John Reynolds (the one of Gettysburg fame), and he was so benevolent that when he was captured during the 7 Days battles, the townspeople petitioned for his release. It was a major depot for the Federals (Aquia Landing in particular) up until 1864, when Grant moved to the James.

The battle of Fredericksburg in 1862 itself is so shrouded in myth and legend its hard to separate the facts from what really happened. The "story" of the battle is what happened in front of the Stone Wall and Marye's Heights, but the battle itself had already been pretty much decided by then. The V Corps broke the Confederate lines in AP Hill's/Stonewall Jackson's sector south of the town (Hill's lines were broken up by a swamp, which left a huge gap in their lines that no one deemed important enough to fix) but were driven back. The battle also was one of the first battles that featured "house to house" fighting (in the streets of Fredericksburg), was the first battle that American troops made a waterborne landing under fire (when Hall's brigade crossed the Rappohannock), and Fredericksburg became the only American town that's ever been sacked (Federal troops ripped the place apart after they cleared it out). It was also deluged with wounded from the Wilderness and Spotsylvania after those two battles. The town suffered immensely during the war.


The part south of town you mention is the part i referred to as where they have let a forest grow where there was once open fields.
The Confederate trenches can still be seen there.
The battle may have already been decided, but the cemetery behind the stone wall has about 10,000 Union troops buried there who died in front of the stone wall.
I don't believe the house-to-house fighting was protracted, though it certainly took place.

I have mastered historic restoration working on those old houses in town.
Here's a neat story for you.
I dropped by a house on lower Caroline Street a friend was doing plaster work on. He uncovered Civil War grafitti on the walls and told me the owner had come across a letter written by a wounded Confederate soldier who was cared for when the house was used as a hospital. In the letter, the soldier described a cannon ball coming through the front of the house, passing over his head, striking the brick chimney behind him, and bouncing off and down the stairs and through the door.
Then my friend showed me the brick chimney and you could see where the cannon ball hit, and then he showed me the door and you could see where it was repaired where the cannon ball went through it.
I always liked that story.

There's another one from the 60s or early 70s I heard concerning one of the church steeples (I forget which). 40 years ago or so, they were doing some work and for the first time since the war someone got into the upper part of the steeple and found a Civil War musket there, left by a sniper and it had been just sitting there all that time.


As for towns being sacked, I am from Mississippi and there were plenty of them sacked and burned to the ground. They called them "chimneyvilles" because that was all that was left.
Holly Springs was one of the few they didn't touch.
That was because it changed hands a number of times, and once General Grant's wife was cut off there with all their stuff, including Grant's personal papers. She appealed to, I think General Van Doren, for protection, and Van Doren posted a guard around the house and she and all their stuff was left alone.
When Grant retook the town he ordered it not be touched and the order was obeyed. It is a georgious little town with many fine prewar homes in it and a cemetery with something like 13 Confederate generals buried there - remarkable for it's size.

Back to Fredericksburg - in that area, something like 100,000 troops from both sides died in the fighting. There were so many coming and going, they scalped the land for miles and miles of trees, and there are not many trees around older than the war.

The oldest house I have worked on was built in 1740.

[mendyweiss]

What- A Ghost Tour
Where- Gettysburg Battlefield
When- October 2008
Photographer- mendyweiss
Who- A forlorn soldier, trying to find his way home to mamma

http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/mendyweiss/th_gettsburg.jpg

[high fly]

I hear the guides are sick and tired about being asked about that old wives tale about statues of guys on horses and the meaning of all four of the horses hooves being on the ground versus having one or two hooves lifted indicating how the person died....

[Mullenax]

I hear the guides are sick and tired about being asked about that old wives tale about statues of guys on horses and the meaning of all four of the horses hooves being on the ground versus having one or two hooves lifted indicating how the person died....

What about the trail where your feet get wet with blood at midnight?




It's totally real.

[high fly]

......or that road where a car with the engine turned off and left in neutral will roll uphill.....

[Mullenax]

......or that road where a car with the engine turned off and left in neutral will roll uphill.....

... or that crappy irish ghost in the tower....

[high fly]

.................or that Bloody Mary hoax where you look in a mirror and say "Bloody Mary" three times at midnight during a full moon - the bitch never shows!

[Mullenax]

Man, Antietam has it all, including my old college roomates.

Totally real!

[El Mudo]

Shepherd University Graduate!
I don't know about the Mennonite Bakery, but I used to work at the Shepherdstown Sweet Shop where we made traditional breads and German old-world style desserts (like Holiday Stollen). Antietam re-enactment days were the best. The hippies used to walk to Nutter's Ice Cream from Shepherdstown.

I like Shepherdstown....nice little battlefield over there, and the drive along the Potomac along Black Horse Ford is always nice. Unfortunately, the American Deli is no longer in Sharpsburg, which is kind of a bummer. They had some nice people there.

Yeah...you don't wanna go there in the summer. Its all farms, so there's no shade at ALL. You will bake like a Christmas Turkey.

Used to go to Harpers Ferry all the time as a kid, loved it there. Haven't been back there in a long time though. Great stuff there like Jefferson Rock, and the C and O Canal and Maryland and Loudon Heights are wonderful to hike and climb.


Its always had a special meaning for me because thats where the Stonewall Brigade was assembled, and where my ancestor signed up in C Company, Thirty-Third Virginia Infantry

http://www.nps.gov/archive/hafe/volunteers/photos/faq-lower-town.jpg

http://www.nomadlife.com/IMAGES/harpersferry/harpersferry_lg.jpg

Beautiful