Bill O'Reilly Shocked That Black Restaurants Pretty Much Like White Restaurants

[KnoxHarrington]

I don't think anyone here needs any more proof that Bill O'Reilly is a moron and a douchebag, but here you go anyway. On a recent episode of his god-awful radio show, O'Reilly discussed a trip to Sylvia's, the famous restaurant in Harlem.

I'll let the stupidity speak for itself:

"There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.' You know, I mean, everybody was -- it was like going into an Italian restaurant in an all-white suburb in the sense of people were sitting there, and they were ordering and having fun. And there wasn't any kind of craziness at all."

Yeah, Bill, those NEEEEEEEEgroes sure do love to scream and hoot and holler, don't they? Maybe they could have sung some spirituals for you.

What an ass.

More, along with audio, and a rundown of O'Reilly's racially insensitive bullshit, here:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007?f=h_latest

[scottinnj]

The link says it all. Media Matters.

I hate it when I miss an episode of O'Reilly. He's always level headed and right on point when I hear him. But somehow I miss all the crazy racist shows where he calls for terrorist strikes to destroy San Francisco. Thank God for Media Matters............



........and Keith Olberman, who acts like he batches into the Media Matters press releases of O'Reilly.


Just sayin.......

[scottinnj]

Not so much a defense of O'Reilly, because he'll do the same thing:

Show the audience what he wants them to see, and report it that way as fact.

I just saw the Media Matters link and rolled my eyes and am now doing my conservative duty to bash that waste of cyberspace.

[Crispy123]

Not so much a defense of O'Reilly, because he'll do the same thing:

Show the audience what he wants them to see, and report it that way as fact.

I just saw the Media Matters link and rolled my eyes and am now doing my conservative duty to bash that waste of cyberspace.

Scottinnj, Todays Worst Person In The World....

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[torker]

Things turned ugly when Bill asked where the Whites Only restroom was.

[torker]

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[pennington]

Bill should go see a movie in Harlem. Preferably a 10 pm showing...

[TheMojoPin]

The link says it all. Media Matters.

I hate it when I miss an episode of O'Reilly. He's always level headed and right on point when I hear him. But somehow I miss all the crazy racist shows where he calls for terrorist strikes to destroy San Francisco. Thank God for Media Matters............



........and Keith Olberman, who acts like he batches into the Media Matters press releases of O'Reilly.


Just sayin.......

So the clip they have there is a fake?

[Bulldogcakes]

I'm going to start posting stories from Brent Bozell's Media Research Center (http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/newscol/welcome.asp) and see if certain peeps around here remain consistent in their principled approach.

It would be nice if the fine folks at Media Matters would have given the story/question he was responding to, for context. But I suspect it would have made him look more reasonable.

The only problem I had with that clip was the "I was shocked" part. And I'd like to see someone do 4 hours of programming daily, 3 on radio 1 on TV, and try to make it interesting and/or entertaining and not screw up on a word or two here and there.

God, I hate defending Bill O'Rielly. I need a shower.

[TheMojoPin]

I'm going to start posting stories from Brent Bozell's Media Research Center (http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/newscol/welcome.asp) and see if certain peeps around here remain consistent in their principled approach.

Meaning what, exactly? Because a site tends to lean a certain way, it's impossible for them to even just stumble across maybe just a nugget of truth once in a while? Again, the fantasy of "non-biased" media arises once more.

[Yerdaddy]

I got a dollar says the staff at that restaurant was able to trick Bill and his crew into singing "De Camp Town Ladies" and dance around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.

[Crispy123]

I got a dollar says the staff at that restaurant was able to trick Bill and his crew into singing "De Camp Town Ladies" and dance around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.

I think he said the waiter is near...

[Bulldogcakes]

I hear the restaurant has a water fountain that Bill took a drink from that none of its patrons will use anymore. It's now labeled "Bill Only".

[TheMojoPin]

Hey, he used it to moisten his loufa. That's simply not sanitary.

[foodcourtdruide]

mediamatters.org may lean to the left, but that doesn't mean the stories they post aren't true. And how exactly could the quote from O'Reilly have been acceptable in ANY context?

To call it a waste of cyberspace is really ridiculous. You're just having the default neo-con response. I'd like to see mediamatters take a less partisan POV at times, but I absolutely love how they fact check the conservative pundits/talking heads/hate mongers and show just how little they know, and 99% of the time they are right.

[sailor]

i'm sure a lot of white folks won't travel up to a harlem restaurant for fear that the scene there would be like bill was expecting.

[TheMojoPin]

i'm sure a lot of white folks won't travel up to a harlem restaurant for fear that the scene there would be like bill was expecting.

Which explains...what, exactly?

[sailor]

Which explains...what, exactly?

if his comments open up the place/area to a new crowd, i don't see that as a bad thing. i don't think his comments are nearly as awful as anyone is making them out to be.

[TheMojoPin]

if his comments open up the place/area to a new crowd, i don't see that as a bad thing. i don't think his comments are nearly as awful as anyone is making them out to be.

I don't necessarily think they're awful...just incredibly patronizing and ridiculous. And I doubt O'Reilly's audience is suddenly going to flock to "black neighborhoods" now to any degree. The whole piece seems to exist because he thinks he "needs" to debunk these stereotypes, as if everyone else shares them.

[sailor]

I don't necessarily think they're awful...just incredibly patronizing and ridiculous. And I doubt O'Reilly's audience is suddenly going to flock to "black neighborhoods" now to any degree. The whole piece seems to exist because he thinks he "needs" to debunk these stereotypes, as if everyone else shares them.

it seems like you think a lot of his audience shares his stereotypes ("I doubt O'Reilly's audience is suddenly going to flock to "black neighborhoods" now to any degree."), and i bet they do share them. i'd definitely say his words could have been chosen better.

[KnoxHarrington]

Here's the amusing thing to me: imagine that if on Opie & Anthony, Opie mentioned going to Sylvia's (just work with me here, people), and Anthony responded by saying "Did anyone yell, 'Get me some more tea, MF'er?"

There'd be a mighty shitstorm, and my bet is that this douche O'Reilly would be right in on trying to get them fired.

[Bob Impact]

Here's the amusing thing to me: imagine that if on Opie & Anthony, Opie mentioned going to Sylvia's (just work with me here, people), and Anthony responded by saying "Did anyone yell, 'Get me some more tea, MF'er?"

There'd be a mighty shitstorm, and my bet is that this douche O'Reilly would be right in on trying to get them fired.

They do that everyday, just slightly more subversive.

And O'Reilly is a racist? I'm shocked!

[scottinnj]

Scottinnj, Todays Worst Person In The World....

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HEE HEE HEE, I knew that was coming.

[Leticia]

I hate Bill O'Reilly.

[keithy_19]

I was in harlem. All the black folk were incredibly nice to me.















WARNING: The term "black folk" was used in jest and should not at all be taken offensively. WARNING

[Recyclerz]

Not only is O'Reilly a douche for the comment, but he doubles down by going to Sylvia's instead of Amy Ruth's. :wink:

[foodcourtdruide]

So, I've actually been thinking about this a lot today, and do you think O'Reilly thought that restaurants in Black neighborhoods were like rap video's? Like.. he'd walk in and there'd be a group of guys smoking blunts and women dancing in g-strings having champagne poured on them?

[Snacks]

The biggest problem with what Oreilly says and thinks about these type of things is he expects All of America do be lily white like he tries to be. He wants no one to listen to any kind of music that has cursing, sexual under tones etc. He doesnt understand that times have changeed. Some for the good and some bad. He has this idea that everyone should be raised the exact same way as he did in his Rich home in Long Island. He will never understand anyone who is below his pay grade. Hes got to be the biggest dick on tv and radio (hannity and Rush are very close)

[underdog]

So, I've actually been thinking about this a lot today, and do you think O'Reilly thought that restaurants in Black neighborhoods were like rap video's? Like.. he'd walk in and there'd be a group of guys smoking blunts and women dancing in g-strings having champagne poured on them?

Yes.

[Yerdaddy]

The biggest problem with what Oreilly says and thinks about these type of things is he expects All of America do be lily white like he tries to be. He wants no one to listen to any kind of music that has cursing, sexual under tones etc. He doesnt understand that times have changeed. Some for the good and some bad. He has this idea that everyone should be raised the exact same way as he did in his Rich home in Long Island. He will never understand anyone who is below his pay grade. Hes got to be the biggest dick on tv and radio (hannity and Rush are very close)

Your typo made me read this as Ed in the car after the robbery:

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HI: Thank you honey, you really didn't have to do

this-

THWAK -ED gives him a good hard slap and Hi's head rolls

toward the camera.

ED: You son of a bitch! You're actin' like a mad dog!

Rubbing his jaw:

HI: Turn left, honey.

Still at top speed, she leans into a hard left, tires squealing.

ED: What if me'n the baby'd been picked up? Nathan

Jr. would a been accessory to armed robbery!

HI: Nawww honey, it ain't armed robbery if the gun

ain't loaded-

ED: What kind of home life is this for a toddler?! You're

supposed to be an example!

HI: Now honey, I never postured myself as the three-

piece suit type-Turn left, dear.

ED: We got a child now, everything's chaaaanged!

HI: Well Nathan Jr. accepts me for what I am and I

think you better had, too. You know, honey, I'm okay

you're okay? That-there's what it is.

ED: I know, but honey-

HI: See I come from a long line of frontiersmen and-

here it is, turn here dear-frontiersmen and outdoor

types.

Hi's eyes are fixed on something in the road ahead.

ED: I'm not gonna live this way, Hi. It just ain't family

life!

Hi's attention is still on the road. He is opening his door,

even though the car is still racing along. He absently

concedes:

HI: Well ... It ain't Ozzie and Harriet.

LOW ANGLE THE STREET

In the extreme foreground sits the first carton of Huggies that

Hi dropped in the middle of the road. The car is approaching.

As the car passes the carton, Hi's hand reaches from the

passenger door and snags it.

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[Yerdaddy]

I'm going to start posting stories from Brent Bozell's Media Research Center (http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/newscol/welcome.asp) and see if certain peeps around here remain consistent in their principled approach.

It would be nice if the fine folks at Media Matters would have given the story/question he was responding to, for context. But I suspect it would have made him look more reasonable.

The only problem I had with that clip was the "I was shocked" part. And I'd like to see someone do 4 hours of programming daily, 3 on radio 1 on TV, and try to make it interesting and/or entertaining and not screw up on a word or two here and there.

God, I hate defending Bill O'Rielly. I need a shower.

You've sent me to that guy's website twice before as proof that the mainstream media is liberal and only proved that he's a disgrace to the frontal cortex. I'd be happy to debate you in a fact-check-off between that douchebag and Media Matters with the winner getting to deck out the loser's profile - sig pics, avitars and mod quotes - for a month. It'd be like shooting babies in a candy barrell.

[dolemyte]

Ehh, Silvia's is over rated, that place sold out years ago. Owned by a Japanese company i believe...

O'reilly is a douche, but the wording he used did make me laugh

[Doctor Z]

And once again, this poses the question:

Why is something done in a humorous context (ie - "nappy headed hoes", Chinese prank calls on The Doghouse) enough to get you kicked off the radio, but content that is TRULY racist (ie - Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh), is perfectly acceptable and slides right under the radar?

[Recyclerz]

This is pretty funny from the folks at The New Republic:

Other surprises from Bill O'Reilly's trip to Sylvia's:
* Chairs and tables were sturdy and four-legged.
* Napkins already on the table, leaving no need for them to be special-ordered.
* Menu actually printed on paper, suggesting widespread literacy of clientele, rather than selections being sung to him by kindly old black man playing the banjo as he'd expected.
* Meal served by waitstaff in a customary appetizer-entree-dessert order, and not out of a trough.
* Meatloaf made of ground beef, not ground welfare checks.
* No need to pay with food stamps--credit cards and U.S currency accepted.
* Money was collected through traditional handing over of a bill, rather than mugging.
* Widespread use of knives, forks, spoons.
--Ben Wasserstein

http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank

[Recyclerz]

And once again, this poses the question:

Why is something done in a humorous context (ie - "nappy headed hoes", Chinese prank calls on The Doghouse) enough to get you kicked off the radio, but content that is TRULY racist (ie - Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh), is perfectly acceptable and slides right under the radar?

I would suggest it is because the corporate owners of right-wing media outlets know their audience and their brand and are much less likely to get bum rushed by somebody like Rev. Al than the supposedly "main-stream" media honchos are.

[keithy_19]

So, I've actually been thinking about this a lot today, and do you think O'Reilly thought that restaurants in Black neighborhoods were like rap video's? Like.. he'd walk in and there'd be a group of guys smoking blunts and women dancing in g-strings having champagne poured on them?

That's all I hope for when I go to Harlem.

[torker]

And once again, this poses the question:

Why is something done in a humorous context (ie - "nappy headed hoes", Chinese prank calls on The Doghouse) enough to get you kicked off the radio, but content that is TRULY racist (ie - Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh), is perfectly acceptable and slides right under the radar?

What?

[Bulldogcakes]

You've sent me to that guy's website twice before as proof that the mainstream media is liberal and only proved that he's a disgrace to the frontal cortex. I'd be happy to debate you in a fact-check-off between that douchebag and Media Matters with the winner getting to deck out the loser's profile - sig pics, avitars and mod quotes - for a month. It'd be like shooting babies in a candy barrell.

You missed my point. I agree that Bozell is a right winger, he doesn't try to hide his perspective. Media Matters is a left wing are being presented here as if they are an unbiased source. ScottinNJ was called out on dismissing the statement because of the source, then I wondered out loud if those people would have the same approach if it came from a source (like Bozell) on the Right, since they act as if their position is based in principle and not partisanship.

Media Matters website (http://mediamatters.org/about_us/)
Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

Lets all just agree that Media Matters is a left wing organization and then we can all do with that information what we will.

[TheMojoPin]

Sooooo...that explains away O'Reilly's umpteenth instance of raging stupidity how?

Too many people on any political side simply end up pointing out how they think someone is "biased" as if it negates any points they may have. It drive me nuts when people my end of the spectrum do it to anything that appears on Fox News or under the umbrella of Murdoch and their ilk as if everything that emerges from their "side" is an automatic lie, and I'm not seeing anything here the somehow negates the idea that O'Reilly was being REALLY stupid with this little "report" of his. It's always important to be aware of the context of things like the media or history, but it's impossible to escape bias, so to ALWAYS react negatively to a perspective simply because it drifts or leans a certain way politically simply isn't realistic.

[KnoxHarrington]

What really amuses me about the quote is that when you do put it back in the context of the whole bit, it's just such a stupid point. He used that example as "proof" that African-Americans are turning away from people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

No, putting it in context doesn't make it any less idiotic.

[KnoxHarrington]

Sooooo...that explains away O'Reilly's umpteenth instance of raging stupidity how?

Too many people on any political side simply end up pointing out how they think someone is "biased" as if it negates any points they may have. It drive me nuts when people my end of the spectrum do it to anything that appears on Fox News or under the umbrella of Murdoch and their ilk as if everything that emerges from their "side" is an automatic lie, and I'm not seeing anything here the somehow negates the idea that O'Reilly was being REALLY stupid with this little "report" of his. It's always important to be aware of the context of things like the media or history, but it's impossible to escape bias, so to ALWAYS react negatively to a perspective simply because it drifts or leans a certain way politically simply isn't realistic.

As they'd say on Fark, this.

How does Media Matters' political affiliation change the fact that they quote him verbatim and have an audio clip to back up their transcript.

[Bulldogcakes]

How does Media Matters' political affiliation change the fact that they quote him verbatim and have an audio clip to back up their transcript.

A verbatim quote an still be out of context, or be presented under a headline that makes it look much worse than it is. Ever read a headline in a newspaper that sounds sensational, then read the actual story and go "Ehhh"? Every day, right? Most of us in this thread reacted to it saying " Eh . . bad, but not a big deal". I would throw in "might have misspoke".

Also, have you ever dismissed a story because the person got it from Rush Limbaugh or Fox News? Why? Because you think the source is biased. And it is, and so is this one. Credibility is everything in the news biz.

Please don't make me keep defending O'Rielly. I really can't stand the guy.

[Doctor Z]

What?

K.

[TheMojoPin]

Why are you defending him them? You keep bringing up "context" when it's not applicable at all here. There's essentially no possible context to this that doesn't make it completely ridiculous. You're basically pointing out the source of the clip and quotes and then nothing else. Where is the context that suddenly makes this not moronic? How are you defending him?

[torker]

K.
c'mon
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[Gvac]

HAHAHAHA!!!

Black people eating just like white people!!!

Imagine???

[Zorro]

HAHAHAHA!!!

Black people eating just like white people!!!



Yeah, but do they tip?

[scottinnj]

Sooooo...that explains away O'Reilly's umpteenth instance of raging stupidity how?




I got to see the show where he was talking with Juan Williams and the "restaraunt" stuff came up.

Bill was trying to make a point (not well) that white america views black america as a bunch of circus act hooligans because of the image presented to us in the media and the constant marketing of not "hip hop" but LOUSY hip hop. He was trying to say that white america should not be assuming that the businesses run by blacks are not dens of iniquity or fronts for gang activity as is portrayed in a boatload of television and movies.

But since most americans already know this-it was a dumb point. Just not racist as Media Matters would like you to believe.

In my opinion

[Yerdaddy]

You missed my point. I agree that Bozell is a right winger, he doesn't try to hide his perspective. Media Matters is a left wing are being presented here as if they are an unbiased source. ScottinNJ was called out on dismissing the statement because of the source, then I wondered out loud if those people would have the same approach if it came from a source (like Bozell) on the Right, since they act as if their position is based in principle and not partisanship.

Media Matters website (http://mediamatters.org/about_us/)


Lets all just agree that Media Matters is a left wing organization and then we can all do with that information what we will.

I didn't dismiss Bozell for being conservative - I dismissed him for getting most of his facts wrong. I also didn't deny that Media Matters is liberal. It is. And I probably wouldn't post any of their opinion pieces at least without fact-checking it myself. But what they do to chronicle the lies and distortions O'Rielly and Limbaugh and other right-wing demagogues doesn't require distortion, just a whole lot of man-hours. They use exensive quotes from from their subjects and usually link to original sources when possible. I think what they do has infinitely more integrity than what the proponents of the liberal media line do and it's because of their methodology.

So we can agree that MM is liberal. But I can't agree that MM is the liberal equivalent of a Bozell because the methodology of MM is infinitely more fair than Bozell.

[dolemyte]

Ehh... being black in this country, you gotta shake certain things off... I think (hope) i get his point, but then his point would be fairly racist to both blacks and whites..

blacks for his assumption that ordering 'ice tea m-fer' is accepted widely anywhere in our culture, even those that listen to the scary gangster rap

and his assuption that the majority of whites base their feelings on these sterotypes... im sure 8/10 whites do know that we can eat in a restrurant just like them....

[Furtherman]

Any white with a decent education and half of common sense would never give such clueless, ignorant and pompous statements as he did.

Next time he should sexually abuse a black woman to get some kind clue of blacks in America.

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[Earlshog]

fox news security has its eye on this thread....

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[SinA]

fucking crackers.. always eating that grilled chicken and honeydew melon.


seriously, b. o'r. is a jackass, but after just hearing the audio i think it's pretty clear that he's saying something like the prejudice i have had about how i expect blacks to act in restaurants was wrong. if anything, he's demonstrated that although he's an asshole, he's making an effort to be less of one.

AND>>>> the whole situation, this FALSE OUTRAGE>>>> was brought under scrutiny by mediamatters.org*, (http://mediamatters.org/index) the same group that took Imus's joke to Sharpton. They're sure as fuck listening to 202 from 6am-3pm.

So fuck him, fuck them, and fucking kiss your right to speak/hear/think what you want goodbye.









*from their website {Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.}

[scottinnj]

AND>>>> the whole situation, this FALSE OUTRAGE>>>> was brought under scrutiny by mediamatters.org*, (http://mediamatters.org/index) the same group that took Imus's joke to Sharpton. They're sure as fuck listening to 202 from 6am-3pm.



*from their website {Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.}

Imus is conservative?

[Tenbatsuzen]

Imus is conservative?

Liberals view racism as being conservative.

[torker]

Liberals view racism as being conservative.
Imus is racist?

[sr71blackbird]

I got a dollar says the staff at that restaurant was able to trick Bill and his crew into singing "De Camp Town Ladies" and dance around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.

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[keithy_19]

I wtached O'Reilly tonight and he had on Juan Williams who was apparently on the show when he made those comments. Mr. Williams took no offense to them and said that O'Reilly was just making a point about how stereotypes are more often than not, completely wrong.

The black man, Williams, seemed more pissed than Bill.

[TheMojoPin]

I wtached O'Reilly tonight and he had on Juan Williams who was apparently on the show when he made those comments. Mr. Williams took no offense to them and said that O'Reilly was just making a point about how stereotypes are more often than not, completely wrong.

The black man, Williams, seemed more pissed than Bill.

Good for them. They can be as mad as they want about the reaction...personally, I think his comments are just laughably stupid and clueless. I don't find them offensive...just sad and ridiculous.

[spoon]

Wait, black people eat real food and use chairs?? Who knew? So much for my instructional video on African Culture "The Gods Must Be Crazy".

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[scottinnj]

If you're a fan of Juan like I am, you would know he is trying to get rid of the "stereotype" of blacks-gangster rap, ebonics and the shizzle-dizzle. He is trying to do two things at once: Like Bill Cosby, he talks to the black community to get them to condemn the "minstrel show" as he calls it that is constantly presented to the rest of the world. He is also at the same time trying to tell whites not to fall for the stereotypes, that black Americans are not the boogeyman and deserve the same respect and rights like anyone else.

Like I said before, O'Reilly was trying to make a point. He just did it so badly, because he's like the rest of us-nervous about saying the wrong thing during a discussion about race.
I know that I like the honesty when O and A talk with guys who come on the show: DL Hughley, Patrice, and when they talk about Dave Chappelle's honesty in his comedy. The problem is, I can't do that. I was raised to not talk about certain things, to have a certain demeanor in public and yada yada yada that has me uncomfortable about talking about race relations, even though I would want to. I would be nervous too. I'm glad the boys are there to do it for me, because I like the discussions and the honesty.

[scottinnj]

I got a dollar says the staff at that restaurant was able to trick Bill and his crew into singing "De Camp Town Ladies" and dance around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.


Kansas City Faggots? Why you red-legged Missourian!

[TheMojoPin]

If you're a fan of Juan like I am, you would know he is trying to get rid of the "stereotype" of blacks-gangster rap, ebonics and the shizzle-dizzle. He is trying to do two things at once: Like Bill Cosby, he talks to the black community to get them to condemn the "minstrel show" as he calls it that is constantly presented to the rest of the world. He is also at the same time trying to tell whites not to fall for the stereotypes, that black Americans are not the boogeyman and deserve the same respect and rights like anyone else.

Which is fantastic...so they "prove" that a regular restaurant that, based on where it is, has nothing to do with most white people, isn't all gangsta-fied? Zah?

[high fly]

Can't help but wonder what the odds are of Bill returning to Sylvia's with some of his white pals sans an Al Sharpton or an Al Roker as an escort....